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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: **CLONE155** on October 09, 2008, 10:17:59 PM
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My wish is that when you land kills, it does not end up in lights. But if you get 5 or more kills, then it should show up in lights. This is just because im sick of watching friendlys get 2 kills, and leaving you stranded to go land! And this would also make sence since 5 kills means your an Ace.
This is but a simple wish of a simple man :)
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P.S. why is it 2 kills any way? what does 2 kills mean? and why not 1 kill then? 5 is a nice number :)
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not everyone can score 5 kills....a lot of people here cant even get to 3....i got 8 max.
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I understand what your saying, I average about 3 kills aswell, but I dont understand why 2 kills gets your name in lights, is this the hook to get new players to join? or perhaps to not frustrate people? if it is, keep it the way it is, but i think it would be cool if it said something like, CLONE155 has landed 5 victories, he is now an Ace! and double ace for 10 kills, and so on in that fasion :)
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+1
I agree the text buffer gets overloaded.
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yup only Aces deserve recognition, screw the average joe he isn't good enough for wtg's. :frown:
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aww that will mean my once a week WTG will become an annual event :cry
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...then their would be even more timidness if people had to land 5 kills, to get their name in lights.
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Of course you could do away with the name in lights altogether...just a thought. :D
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Yeah we really need the 5 kill one instead of 2. It's too simple to get 2...you can just fly around and get proxys and land.
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...then their would be even more timidness if people had to land 5 kills, to get their name in lights.
Well actually, after iv hit 5 iv been known to turn back :D
Of course you could do away with the name in lights altogether...just a thought. :D
What the fun in that? :)
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Lets see...do you really need to get the fame of landing 2 kills?
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aww that will mean my once a week WTG will become an annual event :cry
LOL!! :rofl SD67, I can wholey identify with that. I just don't have the time to play much, so landing kills are a rarity for me. <S> sir.
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This isn't a bad idea. I like it! :aok
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FYI, if you dislike kill announcements clogging the radio buffer, type .squelch 6 and your radio won't show those system announcements.
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FYI, if you dislike kill announcements clogging the radio buffer, type .squelch 6 and your radio won't show those system announcements.
that's good to know, where do you find all those trick messages?
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I am all for 5 kills or better for the name in lights!
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I like being is FSO and other scenario games and not having all the BS server banter come across the bottom.
I wish HTC would at least try removing all the "XYZ landed 3 kills in a La-7", etc for one tour and see how it goes.
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I like being is FSO and other scenario games and not having all the BS server banter come across the bottom.
I wish HTC would at least try removing all the "XYZ landed 3 kills in a La-7", etc for one tour and see how it goes.
Wake up and read the replies!
FYI, if you dislike kill announcements clogging the radio buffer, type .squelch 6 and your radio won't show those system announcements.
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Lots of new guys work hard to get their two kills so they can get their name in lights. I think it's ok the way it is.
Besides that, when I land a few I also like to see how many others are landing and in what.
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Wake up and read the replies!
Actually, I did read that prior to my posting. I guess I should have expanded my reply so some people wont soil their drawers.
I have always maintained a view that no one needs to know who shot who down or how many kills someone has. My reply above was a much abbreviated version of my arguement. I feel there should be no identy communication what-so-ever between enemies, and ditto for name in lights. Yeah, I am aware that I can squelch it all and will do so at first chance. :)
Now... have a good day. ;)
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Lots of new guys work hard to get their two kills so they can get their name in lights. I think it's ok the way it is.
Besides that, when I land a few I also like to see how many others are landing and in what.
You wish to have a great game iprovement? instead to work hard in order to land 2 (?!!) kills we should read something like:
SYSTEM: BaldEagl landed his 27th kill streack
(ofcourse the streack should get lighted above 5 kills). Peaple would care more on how to survive and fight would be indeed more fun.
I'm not an ace at all, just flying smart trying to survive every sortie and rearm I already landed 26 kills in a pony and 30 in a tempest anyone who care and has a bit of basics of fights can do it. Work on a streack is way much more hard.
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Perhaps
1. Keep the announcements if they are not in "uber" planes (LA7, Spit16 etc.). If someone can land 2+ kills in a C202 or similar that is worth announcing maybe. :O
2. Don't display any kills if a plane has rearmed.
This could potentially change how the game is played a bit. :aok
WT
(My 2cents)
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Ive landed 20 when an idiot in a pt from a sunken CV group keeps spawning and auto ack from my CV kills him but then i had to 20 min drive back to the port to land { dumb CV respawned before i could land }
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My wish is that when you land kills, it does not end up in lights. But if you get 5 or more kills, then it should show up in lights. This is just because im sick of watching friendlys get 2 kills, and leaving you stranded to go land! And this would also make sence since 5 kills means your an Ace.
This is but a simple wish of a simple man :)
Pick better friends?
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well my $0.02 in this is varying to both sides.
1 what if any kills landed under 5 are only in lights to your countrymen? or those within your radio range? then the pilot gets to see his name in lights and not everyone in the arena has to read the continuous SO and SO landed 2 kills of every other countries players.
2 OR, a little more complex maybe and in the opposite direction, when you shoot someone down instead of you being the only person to read that you have killed so and so, everyone either in country in range or in arena can read it? then your bragging right can go up exponentially! (i kept a screen shot of YOU HAVE KILLED SKYROCK for the longest time!!!! course i got in in a gang bang and i was the only one of the 5 of us that jumped him to survive! but it doesn't say gangtard picker on the screen now does it!! :salute ROCK)
well just some of the many twisted and worthless junk floating around in my head. if your head now hurts or your thoughts are turning black and evil don't worry, just take the pills the doctor gave you and leave the axe in the shed......
FLOTSOM
p.s. the voices may be bad but they sure have some wonderful ideas!!!!!! :devil
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Everyone will fly the same way no matter what you do with kill announcements. To think otherwise is silly.
BTW Clone, ever hear the story about those two guys who were going fishing in Bear country up Alaska-way ?
One fellow looks over at his buddy, notices that instead of boots this guy has on Nike running shoes.
The first fisherman says "Whaddya think you're doing with those shoes? A bear can run down a caribou, you ain't gonna out-run no bear just 'cause you got on them Nikes."
To which the second fisherman replies "I don't have to outrun the bear. I just have too outrun YOU."
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Pick better friends?
Not my friends, just average joe shmoes that happen to be fighting with me.
Everyone will fly the same way no matter what you do with kill announcements. To think otherwise is silly.
BTW Clone, ever hear the story about those two guys who were going fishing in Bear country up Alaska-way ?
One fellow looks over at his buddy, notices that instead of boots this guy has on Nike running shoes.
The first fisherman says "Whaddya think you're doing with those shoes? A bear can run down a caribou, you ain't gonna out-run no bear just 'cause you got on them Nikes."
To which the second hunter replies "I don't have to outrun the bear. I just have too outrun YOU."
Im not quite sure what you are trying to say...
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Im not quite sure what you are trying to say...
BnZ in his infinite wisdom was comment on your friends abandoning you to the enemy, if they run away it leaves only you for the bear to concentrate on.
or its BnZ's sly way of slipping a corny but funny joke into your thread for his own personal amusement. BAD BnZ BAD! :furious
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FYI, if you dislike kill announcements clogging the radio buffer, type .squelch 6 and your radio won't show those system announcements.
Isn't channel 6 the default help channel now?
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System: BnZ landed two Groaners with an Old Joke.
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Honestly, if it bothers you to see someone landing two kills that much, squelch the system channel (if that is really possible).
The much derided "Name in Lights" serves a definite purpose in AH2. You see, it 's all about positive reinforcement. A newer player, one who hasn't been around long enough to do much more then flat turn all the time needs to have a goal.
It starts out, for a brand new player, to be all about not dying every time you take off. Occaisionally returning alive from a sortie and successfully stopping on the runway to /.ef. Maybe they didn't shoot anyone down, but they mixed it up in the combat area and made it back out and home alive. Maybe they ran out of ammo because their gunnery is worse then pathetic, or maybe other members of their country cleared out the bad guys. The point being, they entered the fight, fought, and made it home with their scalp.
It won't be long before they are getting an occaisional kill. Another bench mark. They see others landing kills all the time, so they look forward to, and strive for the day that they too can regularly land with a couple scalps. Perhaps it's been too long for most of you "Veteren" pilots, but that first time you score a couple kills and manage to make it home alive, you really do feel good. It is an accomplishment.
Once you are landing kills regularly, you start to seek out new and more difficult goals. Maybe try to land 3 or 4 kills. Or try to succeed in a more difficult aircraft.
The problem is, that many of you who post here have forgotten what it is like to be new to the world of online air combat. You regularly rack up 6+ kills per sortie. Getting kills is easy for you. You've reached the stage where the little ego boost of your "name in lights" doesn't mean anything to you anymore. No, in fact, you begrudge anyone else who might actually want to exit a combat area. You perceive the other pilot's desire to return to base alive as cowardice. While actually, you're just a bit irritated that they didn't stick around so that YOU could shoot THEM down. You are striving to reach different goals. Perhaps Hit%, perhaps Rank... Who knows. Maybe you are a purist who is all about the Co-Alt, Co-E, 1 vs 1 fight. Well, the average new guy isn't up to your level yet.
You all need to step back and take a closer at why it bothers you if somebody else's name pops up in the text buffer landing kills.
I get why some of you might prefer that the threshold is 5 kills... Or like somebody suggested, post streak totals... I see that as just an elitist mind set. You all can land 5+ kills, or rack up long streaks. You want YOUR name up "in lights", without being sullied by lesser pilots getting the recognition. It's nothing more then shifting the bar. Whatever.
This game has an incredibly steep learning curve. This game can be very frustrating at times. Most especially frustrating for newer players.
I see nothing wrong with an occaisional ego stroke for a player who lands a couple kills. It might be the difference between a player being motivated to improve and quitting out of sheer frustration. It's basic human nature.
I wouldn't be opposed to creating levels of congrats... Maybe change the message for someone who lands 5... 10... Then those guys who can regularly land 4 kills might stretch to try and make it into that 5 Landed message.
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It's possible, just type '.squelch 6' I think. :aok
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Lots of new guys work hard to get their two kills so they can get their name in lights. I think it's ok the way it is.
Besides that, when I land a few I also like to see how many others are landing and in what.
Ahh, the tired old chestnut of catering to the lowest common denominator. No dweeb left behind?
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System: BnZ landed two Groaners with an Old Joke.
:rofl
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Besides that, when I land a few I also like to see how many others are landing and in what.
Absolutely. I like to know who the Spixteen dweebs are. :D
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Honestly, if it bothers you to see someone landing two kills that much, squelch the system channel (if that is really possible).
The much derided "Name in Lights" serves a definite purpose in AH2. You see, it 's all about positive reinforcement. A newer player, one who hasn't been around long enough to do much more then flat turn all the time needs to have a goal.
It starts out, for a brand new player, to be all about not dying every time you take off. Occaisionally returning alive from a sortie and successfully stopping on the runway to /.ef. Maybe they didn't shoot anyone down, but they mixed it up in the combat area and made it back out and home alive. Maybe they ran out of ammo because their gunnery is worse then pathetic, or maybe other members of their country cleared out the bad guys. The point being, they entered the fight, fought, and made it home with their scalp.
It won't be long before they are getting an occaisional kill. Another bench mark. They see others landing kills all the time, so they look forward to, and strive for the day that they too can regularly land with a couple scalps. Perhaps it's been too long for most of you "Veteren" pilots, but that first time you score a couple kills and manage to make it home alive, you really do feel good. It is an accomplishment.
Once you are landing kills regularly, you start to seek out new and more difficult goals. Maybe try to land 3 or 4 kills. Or try to succeed in a more difficult aircraft.
The problem is, that many of you who post here have forgotten what it is like to be new to the world of online air combat. You regularly rack up 6+ kills per sortie. Getting kills is easy for you. You've reached the stage where the little ego boost of your "name in lights" doesn't mean anything to you anymore. No, in fact, you begrudge anyone else who might actually want to exit a combat area. You perceive the other pilot's desire to return to base alive as cowardice. While actually, you're just a bit irritated that they didn't stick around so that YOU could shoot THEM down. You are striving to reach different goals. Perhaps Hit%, perhaps Rank... Who knows. Maybe you are a purist who is all about the Co-Alt, Co-E, 1 vs 1 fight. Well, the average new guy isn't up to your level yet.
You all need to step back and take a closer at why it bothers you if somebody else's name pops up in the text buffer landing kills.
I get why some of you might prefer that the threshold is 5 kills... Or like somebody suggested, post streak totals... I see that as just an elitist mind set. You all can land 5+ kills, or rack up long streaks. You want YOUR name up "in lights", without being sullied by lesser pilots getting the recognition. It's nothing more then shifting the bar. Whatever.
This game has an incredibly steep learning curve. This game can be very frustrating at times. Most especially frustrating for newer players.
I see nothing wrong with an occaisional ego stroke for a player who lands a couple kills. It might be the difference between a player being motivated to improve and quitting out of sheer frustration. It's basic human nature.
I wouldn't be opposed to creating levels of congrats... Maybe change the message for someone who lands 5... 10... Then those guys who can regularly land 4 kills might stretch to try and make it into that 5 Landed message.
QFT
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Honestly, if it bothers you to see someone landing two kills that much, squelch the system channel (if that is really possible).
The much derided "Name in Lights" serves a definite purpose in AH2. You see, it 's all about positive reinforcement. A newer player, one who hasn't been around long enough to do much more then flat turn all the time needs to have a goal.
It starts out, for a brand new player, to be all about not dying every time you take off. Occaisionally returning alive from a sortie and successfully stopping on the runway to /.ef. Maybe they didn't shoot anyone down, but they mixed it up in the combat area and made it back out and home alive. Maybe they ran out of ammo because their gunnery is worse then pathetic, or maybe other members of their country cleared out the bad guys. The point being, they entered the fight, fought, and made it home with their scalp.
It won't be long before they are getting an occaisional kill. Another bench mark. They see others landing kills all the time, so they look forward to, and strive for the day that they too can regularly land with a couple scalps. Perhaps it's been too long for most of you "Veteren" pilots, but that first time you score a couple kills and manage to make it home alive, you really do feel good. It is an accomplishment.
Once you are landing kills regularly, you start to seek out new and more difficult goals. Maybe try to land 3 or 4 kills. Or try to succeed in a more difficult aircraft.
The problem is, that many of you who post here have forgotten what it is like to be new to the world of online air combat. You regularly rack up 6+ kills per sortie. Getting kills is easy for you. You've reached the stage where the little ego boost of your "name in lights" doesn't mean anything to you anymore. No, in fact, you begrudge anyone else who might actually want to exit a combat area. You perceive the other pilot's desire to return to base alive as cowardice. While actually, you're just a bit irritated that they didn't stick around so that YOU could shoot THEM down. You are striving to reach different goals. Perhaps Hit%, perhaps Rank... Who knows. Maybe you are a purist who is all about the Co-Alt, Co-E, 1 vs 1 fight. Well, the average new guy isn't up to your level yet.
You all need to step back and take a closer at why it bothers you if somebody else's name pops up in the text buffer landing kills.
I get why some of you might prefer that the threshold is 5 kills... Or like somebody suggested, post streak totals... I see that as just an elitist mind set. You all can land 5+ kills, or rack up long streaks. You want YOUR name up "in lights", without being sullied by lesser pilots getting the recognition. It's nothing more then shifting the bar. Whatever.
This game has an incredibly steep learning curve. This game can be very frustrating at times. Most especially frustrating for newer players.
I see nothing wrong with an occaisional ego stroke for a player who lands a couple kills. It might be the difference between a player being motivated to improve and quitting out of sheer frustration. It's basic human nature.
I wouldn't be opposed to creating levels of congrats... Maybe change the message for someone who lands 5... 10... Then those guys who can regularly land 4 kills might stretch to try and make it into that 5 Landed message.
+1 Dave, well put! :salute
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OK I agree with most of what was said ... now let me put a spin on this.... now imagine this next line is the buffer box.
System: EbFd11 landed 2 kills in a P51d of the Instigators
then for the guys ALOT better than me it would look like this
System: Dkff landed 6 kills in a Yak 9 of the instigators
See separate the aces from the others by color of text and only show kills for your country not all, and that would probably work a little better.
what do u say HiTech??
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It lets me know who's on, never bothered me before
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Of course you could do away with the name in lights altogether...just a thought. :D
2 things i always do when i log into an arena.
/.squelch 6
/.squelch 1
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that's good to know, where do you find all those trick messages?
in-game type /.help for a list of dot commands.
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in-game type /.help for a list of dot commands.
did it already but I never noticed this feature, will check better
Thanks
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I have gotten 10 in a C.205, No vaulches eaither. :)
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2 things i always do when i log into an arena.
/.squelch 6
/.squelch 1
can you do .squelch 2?? For like squelching Coutry? Or does .squelch 1 apply for squelching country?
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I understand what your saying, I average about 3 kills aswell, but I dont understand why 2 kills gets your name in lights, is this the hook to get new players to join? or perhaps to not frustrate people? if it is, keep it the way it is, but i think it would be cool if it said something like, CLONE155 has landed 5 victories, he is now an Ace! and double ace for 10 kills, and so on in that fasion :)
it gives motivation when they land two kills ;)
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My wish is that when you land kills, it does not end up in lights. But if you get 5 or more kills, then it should show up in lights. This is just because im sick of watching friendlys get 2 kills, and leaving you stranded to go land! And this would also make sence since 5 kills means your an Ace.
This is but a simple wish of a simple man :)
I find it amusing that no one has noticed the OP has a desire to modify the behavior of others solely to enable him to accomplish the behavior he wishes to modify.
He desires to remove the motivation for some folks to actually land kills in order to enable him to land his kills.
He plainly states he doesn't want to be stranded while they go land, implying he lacks the judgment and/or situational awareness required to recognize a shift in the tactical situation necessitating a prudent withdrawal prior to possible re-engagement.
I would suggest a refresher course in the concept of numerical superiority.
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I find it amusing that no one has noticed the OP has a desire to modify the behavior of others solely to enable him to accomplish the behavior he wishes to modify.
He desires to remove the motivation for some folks to actually land kills in order to enable him to land his kills.
He plainly states he doesn't want to be stranded while they go land, implying he lacks the judgment and/or situational awareness required to recognize a shift in the tactical situation necessitating a prudent withdrawal prior to possible re-engagement.
I would suggest a refresher course in the concept of numerical superiority.
Actually, thats not what I ment at all, and since i dont have anything fancy like a track IR or anything like that, i still DO notice that they are about to swarm me. But i dont run away, i accept that swarm and kill as many as i can :cool:
And if you did not like my example, lets try another one, lets say you are in a flight of bombers, flying into the fray to bomb a strategic target. You notice SEVERAL enemy cons, about the same altitude as you are. But you have friendlys up high. They mannage to pick a couple of them, and then run away, leaving the rest to you, whilst you are JUST about to bomb, and right when you are about to drop, your main bomber loses a wing and you are thrown off course.
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Actually, thats not what I ment at all, and since i dont have anything fancy like a track IR or anything like that, i still DO notice that they are about to swarm me. But i dont run away, i accept that swarm and kill as many as i can :cool:
And if you did not like my example, lets try another one, lets say you are in a flight of bombers, flying into the fray to bomb a strategic target. You notice SEVERAL enemy cons, about the same altitude as you are. But you have friendlys up high. They mannage to pick a couple of them, and then run away, leaving the rest to you, whilst you are JUST about to bomb, and right when you are about to drop, your main bomber loses a wing and you are thrown off course.
1st: choose better who's gonna cover you. When possible I give my help to bomber squads and cover them and, as it is for an M3 entering the town, bombers are the barycentre of the mission wich mean theyr "life" is well far much more important than the escort.
2nd: if you'r planning an heavy strike by bombers and you get shotdown there's a lak in the organizzation. If your cover (flying highter) get engaged in a range shorter than 6k you'r death anyway. Yesterday me and a 2nd 190D managed to shot down 8 B17 even if there was P51s and some Ki84 as cover, we just ignored the cover and killed bombers. So get a good bomber leader and a good cover leader. If you wish to learn join the missions planned by the 100th bombs group covered by Talon, cntrl and Colklark.
3th: s.h.i.t happens
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2 pence worth....
say if you land 50 (or whatever,insert any number) 2kills then your name stops coming up in lights..
then u have to land 3kills to get your name in lights say 100 times..once that is reached
you haver to land 4 kills to get your name in lights etc etc etc...then you are being pushed to do it at your own skill level
maybe per tour it resets..
anyway just a thought
:salute
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I usually can't find enough bandits to empty guns on. I always carry 45+ minutes of gas and 98% of my sorties end because of fuel with practically full ammo boxes.
I guess I ain't flying in the right spot.
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P.S. why is it 2 kills any way? what does 2 kills mean? and why not 1 kill then? 5 is a nice number :)
When it used to be that every time you made a kill it would be broadcasted over the system channel. This caused the open channel to be spammed with system kill messages every second. When they changed it that it would only broadcast landed kills of two or more, it quickly cut down on the system spam messages.
ack-ack
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2 pence worth....
say if you land 50 (or whatever,insert any number) 2kills then your name stops coming up in lights..
then u have to land 3kills to get your name in lights say 100 times..once that is reached
you haver to land 4 kills to get your name in lights etc etc etc...then you are being pushed to do it at your own skill level
maybe per tour it resets..
anyway just a thought
:salute
thats not a bad idea jimmy! will drastically reduce Wtg 's on country also and maybe people will be trying a little harder.
Another idea say I've gone 50 kills without dying and somebody got me. XXX has ended Bruv's xxx kill streak.
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Here's an idea, spend more time watching where your flying instead of the text buffer and you wont get shot down as much...... :devil
By the way Factor, well said in your earlier post. :salute
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an option to turn off kill messages would be nice.
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an option to turn off kill messages would be nice.
.squelch 6
ack-ack
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can you do .squelch 2?? For like squelching Coutry? Or does .squelch 1 apply for squelching country?
i wish ch 2, but nope.
squelch .1 squashes all the faux <S>'s
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Was cool way back when the arena was populated a lot lower and every kill came up in the buffer. Impossible to do now, but it was fun seeing who was on and dispensing the own.