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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Mendo on July 23, 2014, 08:15:47 PM
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I am ready to quit this game and take my money elsewhere due to the absolutely tyrannical moderators, hitech put a leash on these Nazis or find someone who wants to pay to get screwed over for no reason and with no explanation. I just got muted out of the blue for 120 minutes with ZERO reason given and 100% undeserved. I did not type anything whatsoever while playing and did not say much of anything on range chat and certainly nothing that violated ANY rules, I did however use a fair bit of profanity on my squad channel talking to my squaddie I had not seen in a week but what is said on squad vox to a friend is absolutely none of the moderators business and if for some reason it is now I will be cancelling my subscription immediately. This is not what I pay for and I don't appreciate having my service I pay for limited due to some random moody abusive jerk you apparently have deemed fit to give the power to drive off your customers and take away the service they pay for. I have had it with this treatment. I want my months money credited back to me and an apology and explanation or you can guarantee you have just lost a loyal paying customer of many years. I wont tolerate this again, make it right or kiss yet more of your dwindling income goodbye.
Mendo
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Were you speaking or typing on squad channel?
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Speaking, I had not typed a single thing. I should also add that I saved all the film so every word said and typed is there for whatever good that does me.
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Fascinating.
At a loss to explain.
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who else was no your squad vox? Just the two of you?
do you happen to have film of the incident?
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Perhaps one of your own squad mates didn't care to hear your colorful metaphors and secretly reported you...
...seems only logical explanation.
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I've never been muted by squad channel conversations. Interesting...
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Do you know how to e-mail?
Do you?
In
JGroth
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I've played for years and have never seen an instance of a mod abusing their power. May happen, just never ran into it. I have seen guys get mass reported by other players and get auto muted. Sometimes valid, sometimes not, but no mod involved that I know of.
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Perhaps one of your own squad mates didn't care to hear your colorful metaphors and secretly reported you...
...seems only logical explanation.
Absolutely not the case, it was only myself and 99Iron who had been away for a week or so and were only a few minutes into catching up. Having played with him for many years I can assure you he was not any part of this BS that hitechs moderators are doing.
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Perhaps one of your own squad mates didn't care to hear your colorful metaphors and secretly reported you...
...seems only logical explanation.
One person reporting wouldn't get a mute though, and the only run in I ever had with a real life Mod(as opposed to the auto filter) they gave me warning before any mute. Did you by chance kill anyone from a large squad that's easily butt hurt shortly before your mute?
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First off you should have just sent a note to HTC and they would sort it out. If a mistake was made they will clear it up for you. If on the other hand like so many of these rants seem to turn into, and Skuzzy post the logs of what you said and why you were muted will you be sending them an extra months payment with an apology for this little tantrum? :devil
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Was is the actual "Squad" vox channel that only members of your own squad can tune to, or one of the 101-199 number public channels that anyone can tune to which squads tend to "claim" as their own channel?
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Was is the actual "Squad" vox channel that only members of your own squad can tune to, or one of the 101-199 number public channels that anyone can tune to which squads tend to "claim" as their own channel?
Actual Squad Vox, not a numbered channel.
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One person reporting wouldn't get a mute though, and the only run in I ever had with a real life Mod(as opposed to the auto filter) they gave me warning before any mute. Did you by chance kill anyone from a large squad that's easily butt hurt shortly before your mute?
I'm going with this. As this has happened to me before. Wish they would take that feature away. But it is what it is
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I'm going with this. As this has happened to me before. Wish they would take that feature away. But it is what it is
That would be a valid accusation of abuse of power...and well...plain ole ghey on part of the mod if things like that happened.
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IBTL. :bolt:
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I've played for years and have never seen an instance of a mod abusing their power. May happen, just never ran into it. I have seen guys get mass reported by other players and get auto muted. Sometimes valid, sometimes not, but no mod involved that I know of.
I am reporting Aspen the next time I log in. :D
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First off you should have just sent a note to HTC and they would sort it out. If a mistake was made they will clear it up for you. If on the other hand like so many of these rants seem to turn into, and Skuzzy post the logs of what you said and why you were muted will you be sending them an extra months payment with an apology for this little tantrum? :devil
Its nice to see your response to a legitimate complaint is nothing but a rude and baseless bunch of drivel that is only a dig at me. Labeling it with the terms "rants" and "tantrum" only speak to your lack of class or petty nature. Troll elsewhere, I have no time for pathetic jerry springer types such as you.
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One person reporting wouldn't get a mute though, and the only run in I ever had with a real life Mod(as opposed to the auto filter) they gave me warning before any mute. Did you by chance kill anyone from a large squad that's easily butt hurt shortly before your mute?
I will have to look at who I killed that sortie, one of them was within a minute or two of getting muted.
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I am reporting Aspen the next time I log in. :D
That would be cool. Then I would have some street cred!
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As has been stated repeatedly by HTC, this is best handled by phone or email.
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Happened to me for saying oh my god 3 times in a row yesterday 20 mins for me
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As has been stated repeatedly by HTC, this is best handled by phone or email.
As has been stated by many an angry customer it would be nice to know why and for what they have been banned, I am hardly alone in getting muted for no reason and with no explanation given yet it continues to happen. I will be sure to get on the phone with hitech 1st thing tomorrow morning and deal with this, I posted this in the forums for all of us players who have been unfairly treated by the moderators to see that yet another one of us has been screwed out of a service we pay for with no warning or oversight and that nothing has changed in how the moderators are allowed to operate, which is absurd and bad business on hitechs part as well as a main reason for the steady decline of long term customers cancelling their subscriptions and taking their money elsewhere.
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I feel as if you are so intrigued to tell us this you haven't read the rules. :P
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I like the idea of a mandatory warning shot. considering the handcuffed and debilitating nature of being muted, the punishment must fit the crime, and a non malicious misunderstanding is not good reason for a immediate timeout. If the defendant continues his actions despite the warning, mute, no questions.
One should be aware that we are not far from making a mistake and putting banned vocabulary out through the text channels, and error could happen in transmission, therefore speaking foul runs its own risks. If a mod found blatant cussing, as you said you did, you very well could get the severe insta mute you got.
The hard part is you need to waste the rest of your night upset while you wait for regular bussines hours to file your complaint with the people that matter.
:salute
I still feel good about being your fodder today. :D
:airplane:
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I got a 1 week ban from forums when I questioned the moderators... So prepare :(
I agree though, have also bin muted before.
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I got a 1 week ban from forums when I questioned the moderators... So prepare :(
I agree though, have also bin muted before.
why would you question a mod? :confused:
if you poke a bear what do think will happen? :headscratch:
being socially tactful has its advantages. :old:
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Deja vu all over again.
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,357428.msg4738791.html#msg4738791
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I looked at all the film, in the last 6 minutes of it I kill 2 of DaddyO's b24s and another bish kills his third. I then call a check to the other bish as a 190 is in on him and I use the fbomb in calling the check once, the 190 collides with him a short while later, in between these instances many expletives are heard on range chat from a variety of players as is the norm, and the bish who was rammed cussed the 190 player and I commented on the lack of skill of the 190 pilot with a 2nd fbomb in my sentence. At this point my squaddie logs on and I am only talking to him on squad vox, roughly 5 minutes after killing the buffs and 4 minutes from my use of the f word twice amidst the norman constant profanity on range my squaddie and I start discussing our low opionion of another player on another team in none too kind words ( this is on squad vox mind you ) and within a minute of our none to kind assessment of said player I am banned...I really see zero grounds for my getting muted other than the 2 swear words I said over range chat which had at least 50 other cusswords over it by players in range and is normal banter, or as I suspect the moderator was listening in to my squad vox discussion of a prominent opponent I had not a kind word for. Regardless, no warning, no reason for the ban given, just switched off by the mod.
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Deja vu all over again.
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,357428.msg4738791.html#msg4738791
Yes, obviously I have had problems with the moderators before, as have a great many customers on a repeat basis. Would you like to link every thread on this subject to this one as that would be great....
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I really see zero grounds for my getting muted other than the 2 swear words I said over range chat
Two profanity laced statements does not equal zero grounds.
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Kudos to the non-abusing Moderator.
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Yes, obviously I have had problems with the moderators before, as have a great many customers on a repeat basis. Would you like to link every thread on this subject to this one as that would be great....
I was just noting your ability to learn from past mistakes. You haven't had moderator problems, you have behavior problems. Your phone call to HTC will likely clear that up for you.
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I looked at all the film, in the last 6 minutes of it I kill 2 of DaddyO's b24s and another bish kills his third. I then call a check to the other bish as a 190 is in on him and I use the fbomb in calling the check once, the 190 collides with him a short while later, in between these instances many expletives are heard on range chat from a variety of players as is the norm, and the bish who was rammed cussed the 190 player and I commented on the lack of skill of the 190 pilot with a 2nd fbomb in my sentence. At this point my squaddie logs on and I am only talking to him on squad vox, roughly 5 minutes after killing the buffs and 4 minutes from my use of the f word twice amidst the norman constant profanity on range my squaddie and I start discussing our low opionion of another player on another team in none too kind words ( this is on squad vox mind you ) and within a minute of our none to kind assessment of said player I am banned...I really see zero grounds for my getting muted other than the 2 swear words I said over range chat which had at least 50 other cusswords over it by players in range and is normal banter, or as I suspect the moderator was listening in to my squad vox discussion of a prominent opponent I had not a kind word for. Regardless, no warning, no reason for the ban given, just switched off by the mod.
You pretty much just told yourself why you got muted. I highlighted it in red for you. Case closed. :banana:
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These topics may be the only reason I still read the AH forums. Comedy gold.
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A phone call or email to HTC would have been much better for multiple reasons.
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I understand the reason he was muted, but to me 2 hours seems a bit excessive.
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A phone call or email to HTC would have been much better for multiple reasons.
Not really, because he lied, cussed and was muted. Although HTC might have laughed for a few minutes while they put him on hold.
I understand the reason he was muted, but to me 2 hours seems a bit excessive.
Nah, about right for a repeat performance.
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just accept the fact you got muted and move on, also sometimes you dont get muted instantly, i would know lol.
2 hours is nothing lol i couldve been muted for the last 3 days and not even known :eek:
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Love all the smug comments, so riddle me this. Why was no one else who used any profanity during this time muted? Was I just singled out for use of a bad word twice while several others spouting many times that number of cusswords? Was this in fact the reason I was muted? No reason has been given whatsoever for why I was muted. None of you folks have the slightest clue whatsoever as to why I was muted, but you sure are quick to state that you do, and dismiss my complaint as baseless and place the blame on me. Solved the case you boys did, despite knowing even less than I do about the situation. Pat yourselves on the back for solving the case and passing judgement on something you have absolutely zero facts to back up, its good troll food. To all those who aren't among the trash mouthing their personal baseless judgements for the sake of ego and self importance, I appreciate your comments. I will deal with this on the phone with hitech, who I hope will provide me with satisfactory answers. The few inflated egos can continue to thump their chests and spout drivel as Im sure they will, but realize no one cares, and you DONT have the answers or your phone number would be on the website, you might as well go back under your bridges and wait for someone who is as shallow and petty as yourselves and have a nice trollfest there.
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Not really, because he lied, cussed and was muted. Although HTC might have laughed for a few minutes while they put him on hold.
Nah, about right for a repeat performance.
I don't appreciate someone calling me a liar, you have no clue what the real reason is I was banned, what exactly all transpired, in fact you don't know jack toejam. I would recomend you would take the time to go F@%K yourself instead of calling me a liar you ass.
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If you give HTC the approximate time of the mute in an email or phone call, they can look in the logs to determine if it was actually a Mod that muted you or a mass report against you. I also think one-off reports are cumulative within a certain period and if you get to the magic number you get muted with no warning. In either case, contacting HTC is you best course of action.
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I don't appreciate someone calling me a liar, you have no clue what the real reason is I was banned, what exactly all transpired, in fact you don't know jack toejam. I would recomend you would take the time to go F@%K yourself instead of calling me a liar you ass.
This will end well.
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Dropping an F-bomb twice? yep you got muted; at least skuzzy didn't email you "you're lucky the FBI didn't come knocking on your door with your comments" after I made some colorful comments about our President. Yeah I got a 7 day mute for it long ago. Then again I see a Person Non Grata coming.
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The stupidity is strong IN this one.
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I don't appreciate someone calling me a liar, you have no clue what the real reason is I was banned, what exactly all transpired, in fact you don't know jack toejam. I would recomend you would take the time to go F@%K yourself instead of calling me a liar you ass.
Getting angry about what someone says or does on the internet or in a virtual environment won't solve your problems like it appears to do in the real world.
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I don't appreciate someone calling me a liar, you have no clue what the real reason is I was banned, what exactly all transpired, in fact you don't know jack toejam. I would recomend you would take the time to go F@%K yourself instead of calling me a liar you ass.
Reading your posts shows exactly why you were muted... You can't seem to control your language when you post, where you have time a-plenty to consider your comments first. I can only imagine how much control you exercise of your mouth.
Why don't you just go ahead and cancel your account? I'm sure few here will miss your sweet demeanor and genteel manner of speaking.
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Reading your posts shows exactly why you were muted... You can't seem to control your language when you post, where you have time a-plenty to consider your comments first. I can only imagine how much control you exercise of your mouth.
Why don't you just go ahead and cancel your account? I'm sure few here will miss your sweet demeanor and genteel manner of speaking.
QFT
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Guilty!
Off with his head!
Next :old:
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Was is the actual "Squad" vox channel that only members of your own squad can tune to, or one of the 101-199 number public channels that anyone can tune to which squads tend to "claim" as their own channel?
Wait, this is a thing????
I thought the 101-199 VOX channels were squad channels....
Someone want to explain to me how this works????
O yeah this was a funny read at 2am...... :lol :lol :lol :lol
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Guilty!
Off with his head!
Next :old:
:lol
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And this "wonderful" community is one of the many reasons why this game is dead.
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Mendo....you're my FPH and as such are not allowed to leave. :D.Let's have a virtual beer together and blow stuff up the next time we log in..we have had many good times together and many more to have yet..I completely understand your frustration..you're a great player and a blast to talk on vox with .I don't want this to escalate...I'll pm you my info... :cheers: Scotty
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I like where this is going
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IN
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Why do the fun threads always happen after I go to bed? :old:
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IN
+1
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I report players all the time for profanity on range vox. It doesn't do any good, nothing happens. Have some respect for aces high, if you want to act like trash go play with the masses in one of those other airplane games. If you must use profanity, the forum is the place for it. You bigtoe face lowlife motherdiddlying dumbdiddlys!
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And this "wonderful" community is one of the many reasons why this game is dead.
Because the community isn't rushing to the defense of someone that can't control his temper in game and gets himself muted is one of the reason the game is 'dying"? It's outbursts like Mendo's that cause people to leave, not the community standing against the actions of a few idiots that can't control their tempers and language.
ack-ack
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Because the community isn't rushing to the defense of someone that can't control his temper in game and gets himself muted is one of the reason the game is 'dying"? It's outbursts like Mendo's that cause people to leave, not the community standing against the actions of a few idiots that can't control their tempers and language.
ack-ack
Exactly.
Love all the smug comments, so riddle me this. Why was no one else who used any profanity during this time muted? Was I just singled out for use of a bad word twice while several others spouting many times that number of cusswords? Was this in fact the reason I was muted? No reason has been given whatsoever for why I was muted. None of you folks have the slightest clue whatsoever as to why I was muted, but you sure are quick to state that you do, and dismiss my complaint as baseless and place the blame on me. Solved the case you boys did, despite knowing even less than I do about the situation. Pat yourselves on the back for solving the case and passing judgement on something you have absolutely zero facts to back up, its good troll food. To all those who aren't among the trash mouthing their personal baseless judgements for the sake of ego and self importance, I appreciate your comments. I will deal with this on the phone with hitech, who I hope will provide me with satisfactory answers. The few inflated egos can continue to thump their chests and spout drivel as Im sure they will, but realize no one cares, and you DONT have the answers or your phone number would be on the website, you might as well go back under your bridges and wait for someone who is as shallow and petty as yourselves and have a nice trollfest there.
Mod's jobs are to keep the peace, and to keep an environment that everyone (all other subscribers included) would like to play in. Not everyone who plays is an adult, and not everyone wants their kid exposed to such things. That being said, it would've been best to contact HTC about this privately, due to the fact that while you tried to de-face the mods, you really discredited yourself in the process. It would've been better to privately ask HTC why you were muted, and if there was really no reason, then you would've been compensated or at the very least apologized to.
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I have never been muted in well over 10 years here regardless of what happened to me in game or who occupied the White House or Speaker's seat (and I am at least as partisan as most of you, just on the other side, AH simply isn't an appropriate venue for that conversation) because I recognize that some things are not appropriate and I don't do them. If I get really steamed because some blowhard is using me as a captive audience for his bumpersticker politics I just log out. Nothing game appropriate has ever so angered me as to get me to quit.
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The OP should question his need to use such language. It is habit. A well placed swear can add emphasis but a long string is just an attention getter and not in a good way.
I would imagine too several players have all sounds coming over speakers letting the OP's rant stream through their house.
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Live and learn.
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It would've been better to privately ask HTC why you were muted, and if there was really no reason, then you would've been compensated or at the very least apologized to.
Which is exactly what Hitech said before locking a similar thread by the OP last December. Some folks just don't get it, which is why there are mods in the game...doing what they're there to do.
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IN for post count only. ;)
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I don't appreciate someone calling me a liar, you have no clue what the real reason is I was banned, what exactly all transpired, in fact you don't know jack toejam. I would recomend you would take the time to go F@%K yourself instead of calling me a liar you ass.
I wonder who you are going to cry to when you get banned from the forums too. :headscratch:
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Because the community isn't rushing to the defense of someone that can't control his temper in game and gets himself muted is one of the reason the game is 'dying"? It's outbursts like Mendo's that cause people to leave, not the community standing against the actions of a few idiots that can't control their tempers and language.
Agreed.
- oldman
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Just like the prisoners in jail - all innocent.
Those who get muted always blame a Mod for their own language or topic.
As always, send the email in to Skuzzy.
If you were unfairly muted, he will take care of it.
If you quit because of your own actions, well that's on you.
Your abuse of mods and others here on BBS will not be helping you, that's a guarantee.
I've never seen abuse of so called power, see accusations on a weekly basis as of late it seems.
:cheers: Oz
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Love all the smug comments, so riddle me this. Why was no one else who used any profanity during this time muted? Was I just singled out for use of a bad word twice while several others spouting many times that number of cusswords? Was this in fact the reason I was muted? No reason has been given whatsoever for why I was muted. None of you folks have the slightest clue whatsoever as to why I was muted, but you sure are quick to state that you do, and dismiss my complaint as baseless and place the blame on me. Solved the case you boys did, despite knowing even less than I do about the situation. Pat yourselves on the back for solving the case and passing judgement on something you have absolutely zero facts to back up, its good troll food. To all those who aren't among the trash mouthing their personal baseless judgements for the sake of ego and self importance, I appreciate your comments. I will deal with this on the phone with hitech, who I hope will provide me with satisfactory answers. The few inflated egos can continue to thump their chests and spout drivel as Im sure they will, but realize no one cares, and you DONT have the answers or your phone number would be on the website, you might as well go back under your bridges and wait for someone who is as shallow and petty as yourselves and have a nice trollfest there.
So its everyone's but your fault you got muted? You constantly drop mutable comments on 200ch unprovoked to me and others you dislike in game so I really don't see how this is a revelation to you. Most are prob tired of it and you got reported. This is not the way to deal with it, call or e mail Skuzzy and he will show you why you were muted. :ahand
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Its nice to see your response to a legitimate complaint is nothing but a rude and baseless bunch of drivel that is only a dig at me. Labeling it with the terms "rants" and "tantrum" only speak to your lack of class or petty nature. Troll elsewhere, I have no time for pathetic jerry springer types such as you.
I'm not going to go I to a long comment here. It seems you have an anger issue and I'd rather not set it off.
I'll just say, enjoy the vacation! :devil
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I only hit him lightly. what do you mean I am being charged with assault?
In
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I find this thread highly amusing
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I don't appreciate someone calling me a liar, you have no clue what the real reason is I was banned, what exactly all transpired, in fact you don't know jack toejam. I would recomend you would take the time to go F@%K yourself instead of calling me a liar you ass.
You are calling yourself a liar? You came to this forum looking for sympathy and will not receive it. You stated the the reasons for your muting after prodding. You cussed and were dealt with. Next time, don't drop f bombs. It is a conscious decision.
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Just to be clear.
You were muted for dropping obscenities on range channel. The moderator did exactly what he/she was supposed to do.
You do not get warnings for dropping f-bombs. That is an instant mute.
On your in-game tirade about the moderators not having any oversight. You are quite incorrect there as well. The moderators are heavily monitored. We also provide you with a proper channel for complaints about any actions taken by a moderator. We welcome anyone having issues with a moderator to contact us, directly.
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:rofl it's always the same :aok
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Just to be clear.
You were muted for dropping obscenities on range channel. The moderator did exactly what he/she was supposed to do.
You do not get warnings for dropping f-bombs. That is an instant mute.
On your in-game tirade about the moderators not having any oversight. You are quite incorrect there as well. The moderators are heavily monitored. We also provide you with a proper channel for complaints about any actions taken by a moderator. We welcome anyone having issues with a moderator to contact us, directly.
:rofl :rofl
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Just to be clear.
You were muted for dropping obscenities on range channel. The moderator did exactly what he/she was supposed to do.
You do not get warnings for dropping f-bombs. That is an instant mute.
On your in-game tirade about the moderators not having any oversight. You are quite incorrect there as well. The moderators are heavily monitored. We also provide you with a proper channel for complaints about any actions taken by a moderator. We welcome anyone having issues with a moderator to contact us, directly.
Never been muted before, hope not to start anytime soon, but I've let slip the dogs of war (from my mouth) at times and haven't been muted. Is that simply because a moderator wasn't on-range channel? I didn't realize that sporadic slips of profanity- Gawd Dangit, SH*T!, Forkin FLAK!, etc, were without warning, a mutable offense.
Have I just been lucky to not be muted? :confused:
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Never been muted before, hope not to start anytime soon, but I've let slip the dogs of war (from my mouth) at times and haven't been muted. Is that simply because a moderator wasn't on-range channel? I didn't realize that sporadic slips of profanity- Gawd Dangit, SH*T!, Forkin FLAK!, etc, were without warning, a mutable offense.
Have I just been lucky to not be muted? :confused:
Dropping f-bombs is cause for instant mute. Other questionable language habits will get you a warning, as long as you are not recognized as being a chronic problem child.
Yes, you never know when a moderator is on. So you are always rolling the dice when you step out on the ledge to shout something you know you should not.
All that said. Moderators are not there to punish. They are there is help prevent the arena environment from degrading into something less than fun. The game can evoke strong emotions and we are all aware of that. Even so, when it comes to derogatory behavior aimed at any person or persons, it steps over the bounds of decent behavior.
If it is allowed to continue, then the arena becomes far less fun to play in.
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Is that simply because a moderator wasn't on-range channel?
Considering how many range-channels there are all over the map on a busy night, it's very likely ;)
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Gotta get IN before the lock/ban. OP needs a reminder as to why this is a baaaaaaaaaad idea.
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Gotta get IN before the lock/ban. OP needs a reminder as to why this is a baaaaaaaaaad idea.
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Dropping f-bombs is cause for instant mute. Other questionable language habits will get you a warning, as long as you are not recognized as being a chronic problem child.
Yes, you never know when a moderator is on. So you are always rolling the dice when you step out on the ledge to shout something you know you should not.
All that said. Moderators are not there to punish. They are there is help prevent the arena environment from degrading into something less than fun. The game can evoke strong emotions and we are all aware of that. Even so, when it comes to derogatory behavior aimed at any person or persons, it steps over the bounds of decent behavior.
If it is allowed to continue, then the arena becomes far less fun to play in.
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The Rules are simple why not follow them and you won't have these issues.
I have been muted but only because of my constant habit of typing no no thingies! :P
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Since he's done this before, Poison, and there have been forum bans handed out because of similar posts, he obviously didn't get the message before...hence my post.
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If you want to contact HTC about this type of issue, you may want to refrain from calling us a bunch of derogatory names during the call. Just FYI.
I would have thought that to be something along the lines of common sense, but apparently, I was wrong.
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If you want to contact HTC about this type of issue, you may want to refrain from calling us a bunch of derogatory names during the call. Just FYI.
I would have thought that to be something along the lines of common sense, but apparently, I was wrong.
:rofl
Oh that's gold!
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If you want to contact HTC about this type of issue, you may want to refrain from calling us a bunch of derogatory names during the call. Just FYI.
I would have thought that to be something along the lines of common sense, but apparently, I was wrong.
Wow. :uhoh
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Priceless!
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If you want to contact HTC about this type of issue, you may want to refrain from calling us a bunch of derogatory names during the call. Just FYI.
I would have thought that to be something along the lines of common sense, but apparently, I was wrong.
I usually don't find people showing their backside in public all that amusing, but every once in a while a truly inspired performance comes along.
Kudos, Mendo. Your rampant individuality is an inspiration to us all.
Wiley.
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What was that line from Forest Gump? Something about stupid?
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What was that line from Forest Gump? Something about stupid?
Stupid is as Stupid does, Sir.
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Here's hoping we all have learned from the mistakes we have made and will forgive others as they learn from their's. I'm sorry this had to happen to the OP, and I'm equally sorry he abused the system. Dogpiling on him won't help anything. Take a deep breath, step away from the computer, and when you return, simply be nice.
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Just to be clear, the only reason I posted that was everyone here was going to see the "Persona Non Grata" in his tag and I wanted it understood, it was not for his posts on the board.
A suspension was warranted, but he decided to push it to the next level.
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Gee Skuzzy, its obvious that you just didn't realize what a VIP the OP was. :rofl
shamus
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Contrary to popular belief he will be missed...do I agree with his name calling? No but he was fun to play this game with.
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It has to be a record, he got banned in 27 posts over 3 years.
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Honestly folks, this event strikes me as a classic case of "burn-out" gone wrong.
It is a shame.
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Honestly folks, this event strikes me as a classic case of "burn-out" gone wrong.
It is a shame.
agreed..
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Honestly folks, this event strikes me as a classic case of "burn-out" gone wrong.
It is a shame.
Can you post the recording of the phone call? Just so we have an example of how NOT to behave when calling the HTC office. :devil
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Dale would have to edit Skuzzy's post
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Honestly folks, this event strikes me as a classic case of "burn-out" gone wrong.
It is a shame.
I approve of this message.
An occasional public flogging is sometimes needed to keep the troops in line.
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Can you post the recording of the phone call? Just so we have an example of how NOT to behave when calling the HTC office. :devil
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I would have thought that to be something along the lines of common sense, <snip>
Honestly folks, this event strikes me as a classic case of "burn-out" gone wrong.
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No comment.
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Can you post the recording of the phone call? Just so we have an example of how NOT to behave when calling the HTC office. :devil
I second this request. :D
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I'm glad you all are having such a good time
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Its time to stop beating the OP up and offer suggestions to help him. My first suggestion is for the Op to turn off 200.
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I've known since the 60's that it is best to be in control of your emotions in any circumstance.
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even if smacked
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Emotions are useful sometimes though,
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If you want to contact HTC about this type of issue, you may want to refrain from calling us a bunch of derogatory names during the call. Just FYI.
Does this include a ban from the game?
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Its time to stop beating the OP up and offer suggestions to help him. My first suggestion is for the Op to turn off 200.
I think Skuzzy has turned off Channels 1-299 for him. That should help him a lot.
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I'm glad you all are having such a good time
Respectfully, we're supposed to sympathize with him coming here when he was justifiably muted and took it public looking to garner sympathy and/or public outrage at his treatment, then escalated it into a banning?
What part of this is not self inflicted?
Wiley.
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Can you post the recording of the phone call? Just so we have an example of how NOT to behave when calling the HTC office. :devil
I second this request. :D
Skuzzy, can we (the players) take up a collection to convince you to post the Mp3 of that phone call? :devil
Seriously? Posts such as the above exhibit the reason this game is dying. While I do not approve of Mendo's post or his method of handling himself, he obviously cared enough about the game to go out guns blazing. Players with passion for the game, such as Mendo, are the last type of player you should be trying to push out the door, even if they slip up and act unbecoming. Make them pay the price for their actions? Yes, but mock them for the sake of doing so? Seriously - grow up. Those players are the ones that stick around for any length of time. Instead, you want to kick him while he's down and jeer him publicly, ensuring that if there is a chance he could come back, he probably won't.
Yeah, nice job guys. Celebrate another lost player, all the while leaving your posts for prospective players to see and judge the game by.
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If you want to contact HTC about this type of issue, you may want to refrain from calling us a bunch of derogatory names during the call. Just FYI.
Skuzzy, can we (the players) take up a collection to convince you to post the Mp3 of that phone call? :devil
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Does this include a ban from the game?
Not at all.
Seriously? Posts such as the above exhibit the reason this game is dying. While I do not approve of Mendo's post or his method of handling himself, he obviously cared enough about the game to go out guns blazing. Players with passion for the game, such as Mendo, are the last type of player you should be trying to make an example of - those are the ones that stick around for any length of time. Instead, you want to kick him while he's down and mock him publicly, ensuring that if there is a chance he could come back, he probably won't.
Yeah, nice job guys. Celebrate another lost player, all the while leaving your posts for prospective players to see and judge the game by.
This had nothing to do with someone who cared about the game. This was not the result of passion for the game either.
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Its time to stop beating the OP up and offer suggestions to help him. My first suggestion is for the Op to turn off 200.
Suggestions? He's PNG'd on here as a result of his actions. Exactly like the in-game mute which was self inflicted. A psychiatrist would get my vote since he doesn't seem to grasp the repercussions of his own actions. Not to mention some help with that anger.
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Respectfully, we're supposed to sympathize with him coming here when he was justifiably muted and took it public looking to garner sympathy and/or public outrage at his treatment, then escalated it into a banning?
What part of this is not self inflicted?
Wiley.
not saying it wasn't self inflicted just the pileing on amazes me...sir
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Seriously? Posts such as the above exhibit the reason this game is dying. While I do not approve of Mendo's post or his method of handling himself, he obviously cared enough about the game to go out guns blazing. Players with passion for the game, such as Mendo, are the last type of player you should be trying to push out the door, even if they slip up and act unbecoming - those are the ones that stick around for any length of time. Instead, you want to kick him while he's down and mock him publicly, ensuring that if there is a chance he could come back, he probably won't.
Yeah, nice job guys. Celebrate another lost player, all the while leaving your posts for prospective players to see and judge the game by.
he didn't go out guns blazing. If he cared about the game he would have realized why he got banned. 27 posts and several of theminsulting other players. That shows how much he cared.
semp
he cared about the game
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Seriously? Posts such as the above exhibit the reason this game is dying. .
Absolutely ridiculous.
Nobody threw him to the wolves, he broke the rules, and kept pushing and pushing and pushing until the inevitable. How far would you let it go before you pushed back? Don't blame those that are amused and are replying to the OP he made.
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Absolutely ridiculous.
Nobody threw him to the wolves, he broke the rules, and kept pushing and pushing and pushing until the inevitable. How far would you let it go before you pushed back? Don't blame those that are amused and are replying to the OP he made.
Please point out ONCE where I defended his posts. I specifically quoted that I was referring to the requests to make the phone public call after the fact (by an AH Trainer no less), where it would do nothing but serve to use him as a punching bag.
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Wall of Irony
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Just to be clear.
You were muted for dropping obscenities on range channel. The moderator did exactly what he/she was supposed to do.
You do not get warnings for dropping f-bombs. That is an instant mute.
Uh oh - I have been very lucky!
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not saying it wasn't self inflicted just the pileing on amazes me...sir
He posted playing the victim looking for a response to his 'unfair' treatment. He took it public. When the facts came out as they usually do in these threads, he was in the wrong. If he was looking for the public to club HTC because they were in the wrong, why shouldn't he get clubbed when he's in the wrong, and essentially lying?
Wiley.
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He posted playing the victim looking for a response to his 'unfair' treatment. He took it public. When the facts came out as they usually do in these threads, he was in the wrong. If he was looking for the public to club HTC because they were in the wrong, why shouldn't he get clubbed when he's in the wrong, and essentially lying?
Wiley.
while I don't agree with his actions I don't agree with clubbing either..it's easy to club someone who EARNED himself a PNG...
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Please point out ONCE where I defended his posts. I specifically quoted that I was referring to the requests to make the phone public call after the fact (by an AH Trainer no less), where it would do nothing but serve to use him as a punching bag.
I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one that disagrees with your post but, whatever, you'll see it as you want to se it, and you will continue to not help him by blaming what is happening here on everyone else.
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Uh oh - I have been very lucky!
I will give a guy a slip of the tongue even the F word as long as it stands alone and is rare.
I don't know about everyone else but with two, sometimes three talk buttons, it is easy to push the wrong one.
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I will give a guy a slip of the tongue even the F word as long as it stands alone and is rare.
I don't know about everyone else but with two, sometimes three talk buttons, it is easy to push the wrong one.
Please cease in trying to manufacture excuses for Mendo's behavior, because he was well aware of what he said in game and what he typed in here.
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Shida is looking at me in a unmanly way :old:
I want to report him :)
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I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one that disagrees with your post but, whatever, you'll see it as you want to se it, and you will continue to not help him by blaming what is happening here on everyone else.
I didn't blame what Mendo did on anyone but Mendo. Likewise, just because Mendo did something unacceptable does not give anyone else the right to do something unacceptable. In this case, we have numerous players jeering, asking for Skuzzy to post audio of a phone call for nothing more than their own cruel pleasure. One of said requesters is an AH Training Team member.
This is unacceptable behavior in any setting, but especially so when the community claims to be a step above the childishness found in other games that we so frequently look upon with disdain here. It is hypocritical and a double-standard.
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Please cease in trying to manufacture excuses for Mendo's behavio, because he was well aware of what he said in game and what he typed in here.
I really wasn't trying to make excuses. He was way wrong on all accounts. The OP posted he thought the vox was squad and he might have thought that
.I keep hoping he sees a better way and for that I can be forgiving. From some of the comments this guy is a decent sort most of the time. Kind of a baby-bathwater situation here.
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The problem is that the profanity on vox is so rampant that it's becoming endemic. So much so that when somebody actually does get moderated for it they're like, OMG?? WTF?? Stop discriminating me! Then the self immolation.. yada yada.
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I think I might have last Friday night starting at 11PM EST in FSO all the way up until around 8AM EST sat. Morning.........
all I remember is someone commenting on a public figure, and I commented back....then I said we need to drop the politics and rodent57 texted something like that would be wise!.......
kind embarrassed to not be able to remember what all happened, but I do know I got a very very long film I have not reviewed yet.....
some days ( nights ) ....... lol
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I know I am no saint, and have slipped up with a vulgar word here and there over the years, but I do have enough sense to apologize most everytime, no matter how far Shot Out I have been at times over the years......
I also do not agree with a continuous flogging of the OP, even though nearly 2 weeks ago on the knights side I was texting begging for a moderator to warn or mute 99Mendo for his non-stop VOX vulgarity on range channel, even after I asked him on vox to stop that I had children around me, he never let up....... whether a MOD saw my text I do not know......... but I got my film and screenshots, as I have always covered my rearend everytime I am in game....
I hope 99Mendo can reflect on this post and this thread he started, and I hope he does return to the game, I know he enjoys the game, I have seen it with my own eyes..... but I also know what completely Burned Out is, and I do agree with skuzzy's post..... sometimes it is better to just take a break
Best to You, 99Mendo!
TC
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non-stop VOX vulgarity on range channel, even after I asked him on vox to stop that I had children around me, he never let up....... whether a MOD saw my text I do not know......... but I got my film and screenshots, as I have always covered my rearend everytime I am in game....
I'm sure you know, but many may not, that you can also report vox abuse much the same way that you can report text abuse in-game.
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When playing AH I occasionally will utter the most deprived insults and personal attacks you can imagine.
But in 9 years, I yet have to even be warned once, not speaking of being banned.
You wanna know the trick?
I don't use a mic. :devil
If you can't control yourself to a level you have been taught in kindergarten, I suggest you follow my lead. :old:
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When playing AH I occasionally will utter the most deprived insults and personal attacks you can imagine.
But in 9 years, I yet have to even be warned once, not speaking of being banned.
You wanna know the trick?
I don't use a mic. :devil
If you can't control yourself to a level you have been taught in kindergarten, I suggest you follow my lead. :old:
:lol
Only got muted once, when I first started playing I misspelled a word and it got me muted for 10 mins. Never been mouthy on vox though. I've seen many times where chat has gotten inappropriate and someone on channel says "my kid is watching me play and I don't appreciate the topic/comments here".
It took me a while, but whenever I die or get disconnected or something goes wrong and I end up in the tower. I just imagine how long it took that player to get to me and kill me, how hard I worked at times to get a kill and was rewarded. We are all humans here, we all experience the same thing no matter what the side. So to treat someone differently because they are on the opposite side, be it hack accusations or profanity filled PMs, it's really childish and ultimately shows that person has a lack of understanding of the world around them.
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I admittedly have on occasion in the heat of the moment have keyed up and blurted profanity in both anger and testosterone and or alcOhol induced joy however I hereby make a public apology and in the future will make more of an effort to stop..now realizing that sometimes kids are with in ear shot..
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I admittedly have on occasion in the heat of the moment have keyed up and blurted profanity in both anger and testosterone and or alcOhol induced joy however I hereby make a public apology and in the future will make more of an effort to stop..now realizing that sometimes kids are with in ear shot..
Thanks! :salute
My kid is grown now but in the day I didn't appreciate it when the speakers blurted profanities. Yes, headsets are an option but shouldn't hafta be.
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Thanks! :salute
My kid is grown now but in the day I didn't appreciate it when the speakers blurted profanities. Yes, headsets are an option but shouldn't hafta be.
agreed..happy hunting sir :salute
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Not a joke:
My 5 year old learned a word or two from country vox. She even used them in the correct context when repeating them.
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Not a joke:
My 5 year old learned a word or two from country vox. She even used them in the correct context when repeating them.
not good my apologizes
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Shida is looking at me in a unmanly way :old:
I want to report him :)
Shida just wants you to become a man's man :cry
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I didn't blame what Mendo did on anyone but Mendo. Likewise, just because Mendo did something unacceptable does not give anyone else the right to do something unacceptable. In this case, we have numerous players jeering, asking for Skuzzy to post audio of a phone call for nothing more than their own cruel pleasure. One of said requesters is an AH Training Team member.
This is unacceptable behavior in any setting, but especially so when the community claims to be a step above the childishness found in other games that we so frequently look upon with disdain here. It is hypocritical and a double-standard.
I don't think its cruel to listen to someone misbehaving -1 for poor choice of words. As for the community being a step above? I think you are dead on, however these threads were nice and quiet before some people stepped up to fill the vacuum recently created by the departure/being put in place of certain individuals.
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Please point out ONCE where I defended his posts. I specifically quoted that I was referring to the requests to make the phone public call after the fact (by an AH Trainer no less), where it would do nothing but serve to use him as a punching bag.
WOW!
I can't speak for anyone else, but my comments on posting the phone call for all to hear was a joke. As a grown adult I know that something like that would NEVER be posted. You as an adult ....snicker... should have picked up on that fact and known that my comment was a joke.
As for the OP he got what he deserves. Personally I think he got off easy considering how often the issue seems to have cropped up. I have absolutely no compassion for anyone who steps over the line and gets smacked for it. Sure accidents happen and you push the wrong button, you still broke the rule, man up take the punishment and be more careful next time. Coming to the boards and ranting about it isn't owning up to the fact that he screwed up, it's trying to get sympathy for he actions he should have known were come down on him.
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I don't think its cruel to listen to someone misbehaving -1 for poor choice of words. As for the community being a step above? I think you are dead on, however these threads were nice and quiet before some people stepped up to fill the vacuum recently created by the departure/being put in place of certain individuals.
as in...
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I came... I saw, I giggled then I ran away.... :bolt:
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as in...
this isn't directed at you but (http://agedbarn.info/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/look-up.jpg)
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not good my apologizes
It was not learned from you so no apologies needed. But ty sir for the gesture. :salute
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So is the auto text filter as sensitive as it was about 5 years ago?
I spelled wasabi {wassabi} once on range and got a naughty word warning.
I respect the AH moderators for their ability to use judgment. Otherwise, every time CraterMA comes up, TT would be dead silent on text and VOX. That may be anecdotally why I hear very few voices in TT on range younger than their 30's.
Gents I doubt the OP will endeavor to change his impulse control nor do I think any of us will either.
This event makes us all look silly including myself for posting in it.
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Seriously? Posts such as the above exhibit the reason this game is dying. While I do not approve of Mendo's post or his method of handling himself, he obviously cared enough about the game to go out guns blazing. Players with passion for the game, such as Mendo, are the last type of player you should be trying to push out the door, even if they slip up and act unbecoming. Make them pay the price for their actions? Yes, but mock them for the sake of doing so? Seriously - grow up. Those players are the ones that stick around for any length of time. Instead, you want to kick him while he's down and jeer him publicly, ensuring that if there is a chance he could come back, he probably won't.
Yeah, nice job guys. Celebrate another lost player, all the while leaving your posts for prospective players to see and judge the game by.
Players like him, Skyrr are NOT needed in AH2
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Please point out ONCE where I defended his posts. I specifically quoted that I was referring to the requests to make the phone public call after the fact (by an AH Trainer no less), where it would do nothing but serve to use him as a punching bag.
Sounds to me like you'd like to take his place....
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Uh oh - I have been very lucky!
Mod's dont fly on Knights if they did I would have gotten muted for my potty mouth a long time ago, and to those who have heard my slip ups......I am sorry :salute
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Knights don't need mods, we're gentlemen motherdiddlyer!
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I specifically quoted that I was referring to the requests to make the phone public call after the fact (by an AH Trainer no less), where it would do nothing but serve to use him as a punching bag.
If you haven't already put the pieces together, this :devil is supposed to be referred to as a joke. Yes, a joke. Besides, you and I both know Skuzzy would never release the phone call message.
I guess Trainers or any other AH staff are unable to make jokes anymore.
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I looked at all the film, in the last 6 minutes of it I kill 2 of DaddyO's b24s and another bish kills his third. I then call a check to the other bish as a 190 is in on him and I use the fbomb in calling the check once, the 190 collides with him a short while later, in between these instances many expletives are heard on range chat from a variety of players as is the norm, and the bish who was rammed cussed the 190 player and I commented on the lack of skill of the 190 pilot with a 2nd fbomb in my sentence. At this point my squaddie logs on and I am only talking to him on squad vox, roughly 5 minutes after killing the buffs and 4 minutes from my use of the f word twice amidst the norman constant profanity on range my squaddie and I start discussing our low opionion of another player on another team in none too kind words ( this is on squad vox mind you ) and within a minute of our none to kind assessment of said player I am banned...I really see zero grounds for my getting muted other than the 2 swear words I said over range chat which had at least 50 other cusswords over it by players in range and is normal banter, or as I suspect the moderator was listening in to my squad vox discussion of a prominent opponent I had not a kind word for. Regardless, no warning, no reason for the ban given, just switched off by the mod.
INteresting... I hear lots of profanity, yet have only rarely heard of anyone receivINg a sIN bIN assIgNment. Perhaps somethINg is INdeed amiss...
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INteresting... I hear lots of profanity, yet have only rarely heard of anyone receivINg a sIN bIN assIgNment. Perhaps somethINg is INdeed amiss...
You're posting an IBTL on the 11th page of the thread. Really?
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You're posting an IBTL on the 11th page of the thread. Really?
Are you surprised? That's all this one rates. For the record, I've seen a few of em go longer. This one is clearly terminal but I only just became aware of it.
I did ask a legitimate question in there, if you'd care to answer it... Until now, I have never heard of anyone being forcibly muted online -and I regularly hear plenty of profanity. Indeed, I question the verity of this account -enough to chuck a dismissive ibtl at it.
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If you want to contact HTC about this type of issue, you may want to refrain from calling us a bunch of derogatory names during the call. Just FYI.
I would have thought that to be something along the lines of common sense, but apparently, I was wrong.
:rofl OH, SNAP! :rofl
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If you haven't already put the pieces together, this :devil is supposed to be referred to as a joke. Yes, a joke. Besides, you and I both know Skuzzy would never release the phone call message.
I guess Trainers or any other AH staff are unable to make jokes anymore.
I thought it was funny. :neener:
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Are you surprised? That's all this one rates. For the record, I've seen a few of em go longer. This one is clearly terminal but I only just became aware of it.
I did ask a legitimate question in there, if you'd care to answer it... Until now, I have never heard of anyone being forcibly muted online -and I regularly hear plenty of profanity. Indeed, I question the verity of this account -enough to chuck a dismissive ibtl at it.
I used the name "Dick", unfortunately it wasn't the name of the guy/guys I was talking to. :P I served my time and that is that. I thought I was close but I guess that wasn't allowed. I know it was on the edge and that mod decided I had crossed it. I'm ok with it as I knew I was flirting with it.
I have known others that have had mutes as well. Some mutes are automatic and programmed into the game, others a mod has to be on-line AND paying attention. So it IS possible to "get away with it" but it's the chance you take.
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For most every man in the game............ A simple warning would quickly remind us of our place. Chances are very high a short apology might follow if your dealing with someone decent.....as I expect most here are.
No one likes idiots on power trips. Respect is always given to those who judge wisely. The rest you wonder how they got their jobs and normally reflects directly on the ones who hired them. Training in how to approach customers in good judgement is needed here IMO.
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This hasn't been locked, I'm surprised.
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This hasn't been locked, I'm surprised.
No personal attacks, etc. Skuzzy already explained everything. Why should it be locked? This thread should be stickied so folks will stop coming in here from the game whining about being muted, etc. Even though most of us know "the key piece is being withheld and know how the thread will end."
Because most rational players, know that this is NOT the place for the questions. Emailing/calling HTC has always been the preferred method.
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I read your subsequent posts but still feel the need to comment.
While I do not approve of Mendo's post or his method of handling himself, he obviously cared enough about the game to go out guns blazing.
He, by his own admission, dropped the F bomb twice on range channel then called the HT offices, evidently calling them names while complaining about being muted for his offenses. How is that caring about the game? A game, that I might point out, is played not only by adults but also by children. My interpretation of his actions is that he only cares about himself.
Players with passion for the game, such as Mendo, are the last type of player you should be trying to push out the door, even if they slip up and act unbecoming. Make them pay the price for their actions? Yes, but mock them for the sake of doing so? Seriously - grow up.
Maybe he's passionate about the game but that's no excuse to create a caustic environment for other players who may decide to leave the game themselves or, at the very least, keep their kids (possibly the future of the game/genre) away. In fact, the loss of such a player may be in the best interest of keeping a larger subscriber base. I think it's clear to most of us that the OP is the one who should "grow up". Obviously your view differs.
Those players are the ones that stick around for any length of time. Instead, you want to kick him while he's down and jeer him publicly, ensuring that if there is a chance he could come back, he probably won't.
I've been here 13 years and in AW for 5 years before that. I may have been muted once in that time for ten minutes. I know a LOT of the guys on these BBs and in the game that have been around as long as I have or longer. The vast majority of us have had few to no incidents with moderators. Just because a guy throws around vulgarities doesn't make him more likely to stay with the game than one who doesn't.
I disagree with your entire post. If the guy's a problem get him the " " out of the game (see, I could do it too but I actually have something called self control).
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No personal attacks, etc. Skuzzy already explained everything. Why should it be locked? This thread should be stickied so folks will stop coming in here from the game whining about being muted, etc. Even though most of us know "the key piece is being withheld and know how the thread will end."
Because most rational players, know that this is NOT the place for the questions. Emailing/calling HTC has always been the preferred method.
Exactly, usually this type of thread has been locked since this type of complaint is preferred to not be brought here on the boards. I understand Skuzzy's explanations but this thread is not much different than others that revolve around a complaint, therefore I'm surprised it hasn't been locked.
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Perhaps the dust has settled
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Perhaps the dust has settled
Grr mute grrrrrr bad players
Why don't the bish get muted when they call me a spy and not so nice words over range? From now on muting should be country wide!
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This one has run its course.