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Title: What Rooks do in their freetime...
Post by: OOZ662 on April 30, 2006, 12:36:05 AM
I just had to throw this on here. Exact retype of a conversation only with the in-between stuff like base reports cut out. Also, the spelling and grammar is their's, not mine. ;)

TaylorU: canadas like america jr.
smokey23: lol
oCANADAo: now now slow down
avtomat: we send the salvation army up to whoop canada
TaylorU: thats what canada is
OOZ662: LOL
TaylorU: like our little brother
JB00: like a loft apt over a great party :)
smokey23: canadien navy is a row boat an a sling shot
TaylorU: lol
OOZ662: Canadian army is three guys and an oversized musket
bj229r: they used to have 7, we accidentally blew up 4 of em
OOZ662: LOL
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Post by: 38ruk on May 01, 2006, 10:59:48 AM
I thought you were writing this to show some idiot's views on the world , till i realized you were one of the idiots lol.
Title: What Rooks do in their freetime...
Post by: Bucky73 on May 01, 2006, 11:02:19 AM
Without Canada we wouldn't have hockey!!
eh CANADA

:aok

Bucky
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Post by: 38ruk on May 01, 2006, 11:06:17 AM
Or the excellent totally nude *itty bars 8) . I live about 30mins from the canadian border, so try not to piss off the strippers please .
Title: What Rooks do in their freetime...
Post by: Curval on May 01, 2006, 11:09:52 AM
Not a good idea for Americans to annoy Canadians...they might just burn down the White House....AGAIN.:lol
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Post by: Pooface on May 01, 2006, 11:12:37 AM
IN!
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Post by: Bronk on May 01, 2006, 11:15:12 AM
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Originally posted by Curval
Not a good idea for Americans to annoy Canadians...they might just burn down the White House....AGAIN.:lol


Yea take a lesson from the Brits. It only took em 2 times to learn not to mess with Germany.


Bronk
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Post by: Pooface on May 01, 2006, 12:04:24 PM
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Originally posted by Bronk
Yea take a lesson from the Brits. It only took em 2 times to learn not to mess with Germany.


Bronk


???

contrary to many american belief britain pushed germany back on both occasions, on our own. then you guys came along later and gave us a little hand. we can handle ourselves quite well on our own thankyou very much.

infact, if my memory serves me correctly, the only war america ever won on it's own was the american civil war;)
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Post by: indy007 on May 01, 2006, 12:06:41 PM
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Originally posted by Pooface
infact, if my memory serves me correctly, the only war america ever won on it's own was the american civil war;)


And the losing side was desperate for Europe's help. Go figure. :)
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Post by: Meatwad on May 01, 2006, 12:13:52 PM
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Originally posted by Curval
Not a good idea for Americans to annoy Canadians...they might just burn down the White House....AGAIN.:lol



Since when did canadians learn how to use fire? :)
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Post by: 68DevilM on May 01, 2006, 12:15:25 PM
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Originally posted by Pooface
???

contrary to many american belief britain pushed germany back on both occasions, on our own. then you guys came along later and gave us a little hand. we can handle ourselves quite well on our own thankyou very much.

infact, if my memory serves me correctly, the only war america ever won on it's own was the american civil war;)



id luv to see how different  the history books from america and europe are.....

one thing though....with out america supplying the brits, i dont think they would have never held out against germany.
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Post by: cav58d on May 01, 2006, 12:15:49 PM
n00k Great Britain!
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Post by: Curval on May 01, 2006, 12:21:39 PM
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Originally posted by Meatwad
Since when did canadians learn how to use fire? :)


August 25th, 1814 apparently.  ;)
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Post by: Hammy on May 01, 2006, 12:51:28 PM
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one thing though....with out america supplying the brits, i dont think they would have never held out against germany.


that may well be the truth but.......................... ...






we didnt get beat by rice farmers and women and kids  in paddy fields with ancient firearms huh?

so lets just leave it alone :aok
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Post by: Bronk on May 01, 2006, 01:07:53 PM
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Originally posted by Hammy






we didnt get beat by rice farmers and women and kids  in paddy fields with ancient firearms huh?

 


Neither did the US . The US beat themselves by letting politicians run a war.


Ohh and poof how long would Britain have lasted without US supplies hmmm?
 I just wish Curv would have attacked the tard poster instead of a whole country.
 

Bronk
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Post by: Bronk on May 01, 2006, 01:13:16 PM
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Originally posted by Pooface
???

.

infact, if my memory serves me correctly, the only war america ever won on it's own was the american civil war;)


ORRR how about the revolutionary war. Now who did we boot out of OUR country?


Bronk
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Post by: Curval on May 01, 2006, 01:29:17 PM
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Originally posted by Bronk
I just wish Curv would have attacked the tard poster instead of a whole country.
 

Bronk


Now Bronk....don't get your panties in a bunch.  This whole thread was devoted to Canuckian bashing.  I was just giving a mild one back.
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Post by: Bronk on May 01, 2006, 01:34:25 PM
Point taken.  I apologize.



Bronk
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Post by: Lazerr on May 01, 2006, 01:38:57 PM
mmmmmmmm.. Complete nude strippers in Canada...


Looks like its time to go on that fishing trip!  :eek:
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Post by: indy007 on May 01, 2006, 01:52:56 PM
blah. so far off topic I'll remove my own hijack.
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Post by: Rino on May 01, 2006, 02:02:12 PM
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Originally posted by Pooface
???

contrary to many american belief britain pushed germany back on both occasions, on our own. then you guys came along later and gave us a little hand. we can handle ourselves quite well on our own thankyou very much.

infact, if my memory serves me correctly, the only war america ever won on it's own was the american civil war;)


     Wow, yeah those Brits sure were amazing from 1939 till the end of 41.
Apparently lulling the Axis into a false sense of security? :rolleyes:
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Post by: Rino on May 01, 2006, 02:03:14 PM
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Originally posted by Hammy
that may well be the truth but.......................... ...






we didnt get beat by rice farmers and women and kids  in paddy fields with ancient firearms huh?

so lets just leave it alone :aok


     We got beat by the nadless loser in the White House.
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Post by: Pooface on May 01, 2006, 02:06:00 PM
well actually rino, the brits pushed the luftwaffe back on their own. operation sealion wasnt abandoned due to the americans;)


as for the supplies, we are eternally greatful :) :p as is the rest of the world :aok

funny how all these wars work out isnt it?
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Post by: Toad on May 01, 2006, 02:07:49 PM
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Originally posted by Pooface
well actually rino, the brits pushed the luftwaffe back on their own. operation sealion wasnt abandoned due to the americans;)
 


I think even British historians came to the conclusion that Adolph's stupidity in switching the attacks to population centers from airfields saved the RAF.

If anyone "pushed the Luftwaffe back" it was Adolph.  Thank him for saving England.
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Post by: 68DevilM on May 01, 2006, 02:10:16 PM
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Originally posted by Hammy
that may well be the truth but.......................... ...






we didnt get beat by rice farmers and women and kids  in paddy fields with ancient firearms huh?

so lets just leave it alone :aok


lol.....burma
Title: What Rooks do in their freetime...
Post by: Pooface on May 01, 2006, 02:18:31 PM
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Originally posted by Toad
I think even British historians came to the conclusion that Adolph's stupidity in switching the attacks to population centers from airfields saved the RAF.

If anyone "pushed the Luftwaffe back" it was Adolph.  Thank him for saving England.



yup true, but it wasnt anything to do with the americans that we survived against 3:1 odds, against a highly trained air armada. we managed to get through by the skins of our teeth, and if it wasnt for us, the US would have had nowhere to fight back when they did finally join the war. so, really, by protecting our island, we protected the whole world's interests really.

maybe it was luck, but it worked out alright for everyone didnt it? :)
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Post by: FiLtH on May 01, 2006, 02:34:50 PM
WW2 was saved by the Russians. The fact that Hitler broke off the idea of invasion due to Britains defense up to that point, and foolhardedly starting an eastern front. I think its safe to say that given a year or so to make proper invasion craft, and not starting a war with the Soviet Union, and without help from the US, no one could imagine the UK, or anyone at that point holding up for long.

 As far as Canada I love em. They come down every summer and spend alot of money in my area. Some Quebecians have a bit of an attitude, but then again, what country doesnt have their own brand of jerks.
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Post by: Bucky73 on May 01, 2006, 03:47:15 PM
to the Eagle squadron AMERICANS that "didn't help" the Brits.:rofl

bucky
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Post by: Solar10 on May 01, 2006, 03:56:50 PM
the furballers beat the landgrabbers.... or was it the other way around.

:O
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Post by: Pooface on May 01, 2006, 04:00:20 PM
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Originally posted by Bucky73
to the Eagle squadron AMERICANS that "didn't help" the Brits.:rofl

bucky



you need to get your facts straight :aok

ok, firstly, the american eagle squadron wasnt all american, and they were only one squadron, what a massive help to us :rolleyes:. and secondly, they played no part in the battle of britain, the eagle squadrons were only formed in 1941. i think only 1 american fought in the BoB, and i dont think he claimed a kill at all. the americans had nothing to do with britain holding hitler off, we did it ourselves.

doesnt mean however, that we dont appreciate the help from 41/42 onwards;) :aok
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Post by: Panzzer on May 01, 2006, 04:03:23 PM
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Originally posted by Pooface
i think only 1 american fought in the BoB, and i dont think he claimed a kill at all.
Ben Affleck? :D
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Post by: B@tfinkV on May 01, 2006, 04:29:01 PM
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Originally posted by Bucky73
to the Eagle squadron

 



thanks, S!
Title: lesson from the Brits. It only took em 2 times to learn not to mess with Germany
Post by: Spiffing on May 01, 2006, 04:31:24 PM
Britain defended herself unabated in the Battle of Britain and therefore paved the way for the Americans to come in and bomb the crap out of Germany. No nice grassy Britain meant no bombs, we'd all be drinking Paulaner Beer and eating white sausages. (mmm not bad)

Think the Germans learned the lesson, not the Brits.
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Post by: Hammy on May 01, 2006, 04:33:09 PM
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lol.....burma


bwhahahahaha

nowhere near a comparison to vietnam putz!:rofl

and by the way...if u slag my country, i will slag yours and i know that not all americans are as stupid as the ones above  
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Post by: MINNOW on May 01, 2006, 05:02:02 PM
LOL wasn't the Revolutionary war Britain's "Vietnam"???

Scoreboard :D


And thank God & The Queen for Canada.... What would winter be like around here without Hockey!!!

Go AVS!

And... As a famous thespian once said... "BLAME CANADA!"

Oh wait, that was South Park.. NevermINd
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Post by: Schatzi on May 01, 2006, 05:13:41 PM
Hmmm... me thinks OClub!
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Post by: BlueJ1 on May 01, 2006, 05:36:33 PM
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Originally posted by Hammy
that may well be the truth but.......................... ...






we didnt get beat by rice farmers and women and kids  in paddy fields with ancient firearms huh?

so lets just leave it alone :aok


Yall got beat by muskets, spears, stones, etc. in how many of your colonies?
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Post by: BlueJ1 on May 01, 2006, 05:40:48 PM
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Originally posted by Pooface
yup true, but it wasnt anything to do with the americans that we survived against 3:1 odds, against a highly trained air armada. we managed to get through by the skins of our teeth, and if it wasnt for us, the US would have had nowhere to fight back when they did finally join the war. so, really, by protecting our island, we protected the whole world's interests really.

maybe it was luck, but it worked out alright for everyone didnt it? :)


I wonder where all those airplanes came from that yall defended yourself with?


These threads are tiresome. 60 years later and we continue to bicker over things that our past genrations died over.
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Post by: MINNOW on May 01, 2006, 05:58:13 PM
Sweet Avatar Blue!!

That looks simular to the hit Modano took yesterday from Clark!
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Post by: Bucky73 on May 01, 2006, 06:03:47 PM
I'm the one that needs to get my facts straight? No.71, 121 and 133 squads were ENTIRELY AMERICAN. I'm not gonna sit by and let some ignorant brit brag about how they had the war at hand and Americans came in for mopp up duty. What a joke. It's a dishonor to every American hero that gave their life in that war "helping the brits". I have nothing but respect for the brave brit's who faught and died in WWII. Many of them I read about often and shake my head in disbelief of their bravery.  But to suggest that everything was under control is just utter nonsense.

One other thing.

American's vs Brit's    1-0


Bucky
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Post by: JB28 on May 01, 2006, 06:07:06 PM
)thought this post started out talking about our friends to the North.  (even though i don't really agree with bashing the Canadians)

hey, hockey..............trapping beavers...................... ..*ttiy bars!!!   Can't be all bad.

after all, they gave us Shaniya Twain :p  and Steve Nash! :D

<> 28

(Leave the Brits alone.  They help us-we help them.  enought said!:aok )
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Post by: Pooface on May 01, 2006, 06:21:42 PM
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Originally posted by Bucky73
I'm the one that needs to get my facts straight? No.71, 121 and 133 squads were ENTIRELY AMERICAN. I'm not gonna sit by and let some ignorant brit brag about how they had the war at hand and Americans came in for mopp up duty. What a joke. It's a dishonor to every American hero that gave their life in that war "helping the brits". I have nothing but respect for the brave brit's who faught and died in WWII. Many of them I read about often and shake my head in disbelief of their bravery.  But to suggest that everything was under control is just utter nonsense.

One other thing.

American's vs Brit's    1-0


Bucky



:lol :lol :lol


are you kidding me?

ALL the eagle squadrons were late 41 onwards, totally past the battle of britain. england fought hitler off on its OWN. hardly anyone disputes this, even most americans.

now, talking about insulting, i find it VERY offensive for a loudmouth to come along and claim that the british pilots didnt do what they did, and that it was america that saved them. my family has massive connections to britain's military, including the battle of britain. i can assure you that the americans had nothing to do with us kicking german arse from 1939-1942

like i said, you find it insulting that i think the brits held the germans off, like they did, then i find it rude beyond belief that you claim the work of the british pilots during the early years to be american, and to say that they were helpless without you.




idiot
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Post by: OOZ662 on May 01, 2006, 06:21:47 PM
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Originally posted by 38ruk
I thought you were writing this to show some idiot's views on the world , till i realized you were one of the idiots lol.


:rofl

Now then, to all the guys who got pissed off at me for posting it, just remember; we're just poking fun. I'm sure you Canadians sit up there and screw with us too (I too am a very short distance from the border) and I'm not one to complain about it. I usually laugh at it...sadly, because most of it's true. ;)

EDIT: To all you fighting about Britain vs America vs Hitler, I got no comment... :noid
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Post by: Hammy on May 01, 2006, 06:22:07 PM
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American's vs Brit's 1-0


hmmmm        al-queda - 2        USA - 0






silly boys
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Post by: BlueJ1 on May 01, 2006, 06:24:26 PM
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Originally posted by Hammy
hmmmm        al-queda - 2        USA - 0






silly boys


July 7th 2005.

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Post by: Pooface on May 01, 2006, 06:31:12 PM
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Originally posted by BlueJ1
July 7th 2005.



lol that day pissed me off so much. was stuck in east london, all the tube was dead, and i was supposed to meet someone in like, 30 mins, but couldnt get anywhere lol. i was more pissed off that i was stuck and that no one could get to work than i was that some smelly reject went and blew up a bus.

god, i dont want to kill the terrorists, i wanna keep em alive as long as possible so i can kick them in the nuts constantly:t :t

annoying bastiges:rolleyes:
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Post by: Hammy on May 01, 2006, 06:38:15 PM
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July 7th 2005


I actually wasnt including 9/11 in my statement, i was referring to afghanistan and Iraq but now u drag it down to that level that makes it

Al-Queda 3 - USA 0

Oh and BlueJ, u are the typical American Idiot that believes the USA is far superior to anyone else in the world and that the world owes the US everything, that attitude has a tendency to come around and bite you up the bum.

Apologies to the decent US citizens i may have offended, it wasnt intentional until BlueJ dragged it down to that level.
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Post by: BlueJ1 on May 01, 2006, 06:45:14 PM
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Originally posted by Hammy
I actually wasnt including 9/11 in my statement, i was referring to afghanistan and Iraq but now u drag it down to that level that makes it

Al-Queda 3 - USA 0

Oh and BlueJ, u are the typical American Idiot that believes the USA is far superior to anyone else in the world and that the world owes the US everything, that attitude has a tendency to come around and bite you up the bum.

Apologies to the decent US citizens i may have offended, it wasnt intentional until BlueJ dragged it down to that level.


I hardly believe we are far superior. I have complete respect for most UK countires and others. I was simply defending the U.S. as you were defending yours from ebing slagged. And I remeber your statement about Vietnam dragging it down, I merely joined you.

And you might as well add the first attack on the trade center. That would make it 4-0 on your scorecard.
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Post by: Hammy on May 01, 2006, 06:49:46 PM
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American's vs Brit's 1-0


 I think the above comment started it all off but I am now going to do the adult thing and get away from this topic as im sure you could find examples all day of US superiority and quite frankly i can neither be arsed or feel thye need to respond anymore to the childish behaviour which i myself have lowered myself to.

Once again, apologies to those I offended, wasnt intentional.

this is my last post on this subject.
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Post by: Squire on May 01, 2006, 07:07:43 PM
Speaking as a Canuck, I would like to think we can poke fun at ourselves and have a good laugh. I saw nothing "sinister" in the original post, just some good natured elbow ribbing.

As for the all-too-predictable-crap that follows, about 1812, the BoB, Vietnam, 9-11, blah blah blah, its sad. All of it.

Stop firing stupid, cheap shots at each other, its embarrasing to read it.

What the flying f*** what country burnt down the WH 200 frakin years ago vs the Vietnam war? vs the Revolutionary War? vs WW2?

Read some books, and learn to get along.

P.S. I will add my own geo-political "quip" before leaving.

Currently the USA, Canada, and the UK are all involved in operations together in Iraq and Afghanistan, and perhaps other places we don't know, and are dying in the field as we write this s***.

Have a nice day.

:(
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Post by: BigR on May 01, 2006, 07:10:12 PM
holy crap when is this thread going to be locked.  Truth about WWII is that everyone on the Allied side played a vital role and saying that one was more important than the other is just silly overenthusiastic nationalism. I just went to Duxford last week and saw the Battle of Britain and US 8th Air Force museums there. You can tell that the British are very proud of the fact that they were able to stand up against Germany when everyone before them failed. Economically they had a lot of help from us, but they did all the fighting and dying during the Battle of Britain. My hats off to them. At the same time, the notion that they could have defeated the Germans alone and marched all the way to Berlin is a bunch of crap. It was certainly the combined strength of all the allies that won the war.

As for the AL Qaeda stuff...I don’t think having a scoreboard is very funny. Terrorism isn’t just an American problem. You think you’re immune to some crazy retard blowing himself up in a shopping mall or on a bus? Britain has always had a problem with terrorism in the past with the IRA, and of course most recently last year with the bombings.  Last time I looked Britain had a bunch of soldiers in Iraq as well. When I was in London last week, the big news was Prince Harry wanting to go and fight in Iraq. England and the US are not at all that much different. Out of all the places in Europe I went to, I felt the most welcomed and the most at home in England. I really do think this "whose got the bigger wang?" argument is rather stupid and pointless.
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Post by: Pooface on May 01, 2006, 07:16:30 PM
too right, we all did our bit, and the world is as it is now because of what happened.

i was just annoyed that some retard came along and completely disregarded all the efforts of britain during the early years, claiming that it was america that won the BoB. THAT makes me very angry. but no doubt that america were our shining stars, we couldnt of done it without you:aok

really, we're great allies as countries, and even more friendly on a personal level. nothing we brits like more than to see a nice, polite american tourist, so we can rip them off;) :p j/k

our american cousins are great, just the jerks that kick-start this kind of BS:rolleyes:
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Post by: Shaky on May 01, 2006, 07:29:25 PM
OK, so as far as WWII goes then....

The UK and France lost the "Battle of France"
The UK won the "Battle of Britain"
The UK, Canucks and US won the "Battle of Normandy" and pushed on through to Germany.
The USSR won Moscow, Stalingrad, Kursk, and all the way to Berlin.

Thats Europe. The Pacific is another story.

Thats about it, or is someone else gonna slap his down too?
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Post by: MINNOW on May 01, 2006, 07:34:42 PM
Actually this thread has been a breath of fresh air in a way...

All of us (United States, England, Canada) have a common goal and a common thread. As much as we are different we are the same so for that a big <<<<<>>>>>>
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Post by: Bucky73 on May 01, 2006, 07:38:19 PM
Pooface....I was referring to your comments about how the American's came along and "helped the brits" along. Not the battle of britian. God, you keep bringing up the battle of Britain. Like a annoying parrot "battle of britain" KAWWWW "battle of Britain SQUAWK... I'm talking about the COMPLETE war as a whole. If you believe that Britain would have held off as long as they did without American supply support then you are even more clueless then I thought and debating with you is pointless. Also...LIKE I SAID there are many great Hero's from the UK. (try reading a bit before you post):aok Show me where I said that "Americans won the Battle of Britian"?????


Have you checked a globe lately? The "British Empire" isn't at all what it used to be.....wonder why?

Where you born this clueless or did you have to work on it?

Bucky:rofl :rofl
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Post by: 38ruk on May 01, 2006, 09:42:41 PM
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Originally posted by OOZ662
:rofl

Now then, to all the guys who got pissed off at me for posting it, just remember; we're just poking fun. I'm sure you Canadians sit up there and screw with us too (I too am a very short distance from the border) and I'm not one to complain about it. I usually laugh at it...sadly, because most of it's true. ;)

EDIT: To all you fighting about Britain vs America vs Hitler, I got no comment... :noid


OOZ , that first post of mine sounds alot harsher than i wanted it to , i shoulda replaced idiots with DWEEBS ehhe , I ment it all in fun , and regret how it might be taken out of context , was all in fun 38
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Post by: OOZ662 on May 01, 2006, 10:09:02 PM
I knew you were joking and took it in stride, but somebody down below started calling me names. So I clarified.

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Post by: eh on May 01, 2006, 10:53:12 PM
I blame it all on Michael Moore. If it weren't for "Canadian Bacon", we Canuckians would get more respect. Coddamned propagandist!

eh?
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Post by: asilvia on May 02, 2006, 12:10:16 AM
You know when I started reading this I thought I was gonna get a good joke about Canada but to my amazment it went far beyond that. Being ex military and extremly patriotic I could slam anyone and everyone who has negitive feelings, comments, or thoughts about the US of A...but you know what......I realized that some of these comments may be coming from kids (younger then 25) that has never seen war up close and personal or volunteered for duty to serve your country that may put your life in risk. Well I have and let me say none of you have any clue what your talking about unless you ever did.

I could rant on about my wife's grandparents who live in Germany and was there during WWII. Her mothers father that was at D-day and was taken prisoner. Or about her fathers father that was a SS tank commander on the Russian front whom she never met since he was killed there.

How about my Grandfather who served in the pacific as a seabee. Or my Uncles who fought in Vietnam, or my Dad who also volunteered for vietnam but was sent to Germany instead. You think that went over well at family reunions.

How about having a direct decendant ( Samual Fuller) who came over on the Mayflower and actually has a house in Plymouth Plantations reservation area.

After writting this  I realized it probably doesnt matter and not really fitting for this forum but I had to write it all the same.
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Post by: BBQ_Bob on May 02, 2006, 12:20:00 AM
Not to add any fuel to the fire but I understand that the Americans won the battle of Dental Hygiene over the Brits. :aok
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Post by: Bucky73 on May 02, 2006, 01:25:25 AM
asliva...hope you weren't referring to me.

I'm 33 years old 4 years Navy and going on 12 ANG. I've been to the Gulf region 6 times from the first gulf war to the latest fall of 01' Prince Sultan Air Base, Saudi Arabia. It's not anything glorious but, I do believe I contribute (whatever it may be).

Just thought maybe you'd like to know.:D

for your service and ALL prior and current military:aok


Bucky
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Post by: asilvia on May 02, 2006, 04:00:40 AM
oh not you Bucky...basically just a vent. I do apologize if I offended anyone. I just get vaclempt (sp?) when I read about this and all our fellow brothers in arms putting it on the line everyday. I dont just mean americans either. Anyone who fights for thier country with the belief of defending it. And again I dont mean terrorists...but soldiers.
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Post by: wipass on May 02, 2006, 06:20:11 AM
Two points,

The Revolutionary war was fought between on the one side the UK, and on the other side the colonists, the Spanish and the French. Don't you read history ?

Secondly

"Have you checked a globe lately? The "British Empire" isn't at all what it used to be.....wonder why?

Where you born this clueless or did you have to work on it"

The method in which the Empire was created would eventually lead to it's dissolution, in bringing democracy you create the seeds of self determination which is what happened to 95 % of the British Empire. Starting with the dominions of Canada and Australia and also South Africa and ending in the 60's with the withdrawal of Empire east of Suez.

In creating democratic systems the British acknowledged that they would one day eventually leave.

Those Countries which remain with the Queen as head of state are able at any time to proclaim republic status, that they don't is a testament to the remnants of Empire.

The Empire didn't implode, as soon as it was created it sowed the seeds of its eventual decline.

wipass
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Post by: Curval on May 02, 2006, 08:22:22 AM
As to the Empire issue...I further suggest you travel around the globe and visit as many former colonies as you can.  Then compare their current situation on an "Empire" by "Empire" basis.

You will find that in the vast majority of cases the former British colonies are doing rather nicely compared to others.
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Post by: 68DevilM on May 02, 2006, 09:00:20 AM
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Originally posted by MINNOW
LOL wasn't the Revolutionary war Britain's "Vietnam"???

Scoreboard :D


And thank God & The Queen for Canada.... What would winter be like around here without Hockey!!!

Go AVS!

And... As a famous thespian once said... "BLAME CANADA!"

Oh wait, that was South Park.. NevermINd



On this day in 1918, in a conference of Allied military leaders at Abbeville, France, the U.S., Britain and France argue over the entrance of American troops into World War I.

On March 23, two days after the launch of a major German offensive in northern France, British Prime Minister David Lloyd George telegraphed the British ambassador in Washington, Lord Reading, urging him to explain to U.S. President Woodrow Wilson that without help from the U.S., “we cannot keep our divisions supplied…for more than a short time at the present rate of loss….This situation is undoubtedly critical and if America delays now she may be too late.”
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Post by: eh on May 02, 2006, 09:15:48 AM
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You will find that in the vast majority of cases the former British colonies are doing rather nicely compared to others.


:O   :eek:
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Post by: 2bighorn on May 02, 2006, 09:25:47 AM
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Originally posted by wipass
The method in which the Empire was created would eventually lead to it's dissolution, in bringing democracy you create the seeds of self determination which is what happened to 95 % of the British Empire.
:rofl Right! The only reason the empire existed was to spread democracy and welfare

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Originally posted by wipass
Starting with the dominions of Canada and Australia and also South Africa and ending in the 60's with the withdrawal of Empire east of Suez.
It started with 13 colonies in 1775...
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Post by: Toad on May 02, 2006, 09:33:42 AM
Well, sure. EVERY definition of the "colonial" system says the colonies exist to provide a place for the mother country to spread democracy.

:rofl
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Post by: wipass on May 02, 2006, 09:37:46 AM
Read it again, it says method not reason.

The British Empire in 1775 was quite small in comparison with what it would eventualy become.  But thanks for your interest

wipass
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Post by: Curval on May 02, 2006, 09:55:10 AM
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Originally posted by eh
:O   :eek:


You disagree?
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Post by: 2bighorn on May 02, 2006, 09:58:14 AM
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Originally posted by wipass
The British Empire in 1775 was quite small in comparison with what it would eventualy become.
So it wasn't yet economical to print "how to become democracy" leaflets for few spoiled colonists?  :rofl
Darn, we were so wrong, we faught instead of enjoyed empire social services for centuries before democracy would arrive. :rofl
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Post by: Toad on May 02, 2006, 10:05:31 AM
So you guys just started out using the "wrong" method to pillage the colonies? Otherwise, things would still be going great for ol' Mom, eh?

Gotcha.
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Post by: Pooface on May 02, 2006, 10:11:49 AM
lol this thread is confusing:confused:


bucky, sorry, i thought you were going on about the british being helpless, which we certainly proved to be wrong. once you guys came along and bought up the rear, we were golden :)


as for the british vs. american issue, there are so many things that have happened in our histories that make it impossible to say who is better, and who was more successful, and i think that that's a big reason we work so well as a political friendship, so much in common, lots of competition, but always friendly;)
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Post by: 2bighorn on May 02, 2006, 10:19:09 AM
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Originally posted by Pooface
claiming that it was america that won the BoB.
There's a documentary about that fella Ben Affleck who won BoB which proves the claim as being correct. You can't argue historical evidence, can you?
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Post by: Pooface on May 02, 2006, 10:22:57 AM
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Originally posted by 2bighorn
There's a documentary about that fella Ben Affleck who won BoB which proves the claim as being correct. You can't argue historical evidence, can you?




:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl



that film cracked me up so much the first time that i had to watch it again, and it was supposed to be a tragedy/love story right?? i laughed histerically!
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Post by: Simaril on May 02, 2006, 10:28:28 AM
Two points.

First, nations have growth curves, just like kids. Only fair to compare similar points on the curve -- and I think its fair to argue that the United Kingdom's pinnacle was at least as impressive as the USA's. During the Victorian, colonial period of empire the "pink bits" of UK territory spanned the globe and the trade networks ruled the world's economy. Hard to top that act....

Second, the United Kingdom made a HUGE contribution to effective democracy with the concept of "rule of law" -- the idea that the law outranks the ruler. I mean, IIRC, commoners have successfully sued the King!! The fundamental assumption of the rule of law has pretty well proven to be necessary for successful self government. Societies that internalize the idea succeed; those that dont degenerate into dictatorship of one sort or another.


I've lived in the US my whole life, but dont think any american can rationally disparage the UK's value to the world.


though, there is that whole Ben Affleck thing to consider....
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Post by: Bucky73 on May 02, 2006, 10:45:01 AM
Pooface.... very true about the American-British friendship.:)

Forgive me if I came across a bit harsh. (just havin a bad day i guess)

It's just that I get a little ticked off when I feel that someone is belittling(msp) the act's of brave military men WHATEVER country (as long as it's allied :D )

I suppose in these day's when people are so quick to criticize our troops (example: Iraq) my trigger is a bit light. I realize that you weren't doing this and apologize if I crossed the line. The British action's in the Battle of Britain is DEFINATELY something to be proud of. It just goes to show you that the men that fought in WWII were a unique bunch of fellow's. :) These are the real HERO'S that kids these days should be looking up to: Not some drugged up athlete that makes billions of dollars hitting a dang ball or swinging a club.

I better quit now or I will go on for hours.:D

Bucky
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Post by: Bucky73 on May 02, 2006, 10:52:14 AM
Simaril....Did you hear about the sequel to Pearl Harbor about the Korean War with Ben Affleck in it. He single handedly shoots down every mig in the sky! :rofl :rofl :rofl

That movie was a MAJOR disappointment.

Bucky
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Post by: Pooface on May 02, 2006, 11:09:04 AM
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Originally posted by Bucky73
Pooface.... very true about the American-British friendship.:)

Forgive me if I came across a bit harsh. (just havin a bad day i guess)

It's just that I get a little ticked off when I feel that someone is belittling(msp) the act's of brave military men WHATEVER country (as long as it's allied :D )

I suppose in these day's when people are so quick to criticize our troops (example: Iraq) my trigger is a bit light. I realize that you weren't doing this and apologize if I crossed the line. The British action's in the Battle of Britain is DEFINATELY something to be proud of. It just goes to show you that the men that fought in WWII were a unique bunch of fellow's. :) These are the real HERO'S that kids these days should be looking up to: Not some drugged up athlete that makes billions of dollars hitting a dang ball or swinging a club.

I better quit now or I will go on for hours.:D

Bucky





yeah lol. it's really amazing when you see the interviews with them. they all insist that they didnt do anything special, they just did their duty, incredible really. all my grandparents say too, that it was their duty to stand up and fight for their country, and i guess that's why we held out so well, massive public support and effort.

and about the true heroism, dead on man. you see all these guys even now doing their bit, and going out to help in iraq, yet we have all these whining tards complaining, and going on about antiwar, and that all soldiers are murderes:rolleyes:

really rediculous here in the UK, no support for anything anymore:confused: i cant imagine what it feels like to be a soldier thousands of miles from home, and have little idiots at home accuse you of being an evil murderer, despite the fact that they would give their lives to protect the lives and views of these people back at home. a sad age for our country right now, where people dont do anything but complain.:rolleyes:

gone are the days of patriotism in our country for the most part now, which is a great shame really, seeing as our country has such a rich history and culture, one that really is worth protecting. well, it's all been taken over by idiots, sleazy politicians and chavs (british slang, you wouldnt understand:D )

well, unfortunately not much i can do. you would think that people would want to hold some manner of integrity and class as a bedrock principle of a country, but it appears that you would be wrong now, it all seems to revolve around money and physical possesions:rolleyes:

blah lol, just started ranting without noticing:lol
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Post by: Spiffing on May 02, 2006, 01:11:39 PM
:)I'm talking about the COMPLETE war as a whole. If you believe that Britain would have held off as long as they did without American supply support




er, Britain was defended in teh Battle of Britain by err, brits? yes thats right, Then the Brits helped deffend Europe from the germans, but at no time were the Brits fighting for their own soil post battle Of Britain. We were helping defend the continent of Europe in joint cooproration with the Americans with bombers and British powered P51s (uhhemm)


By the way I'm a Brit who lives in the US with a yankee wife, so im as impartial as they come (world cup should be fun!)
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Post by: Pooface on May 02, 2006, 01:19:09 PM
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Originally posted by Spiffing
(world cup should be fun!)


come on england!!!:D

gonna be a shouting at the TV summer i can tell lol:lol
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Post by: Curval on May 02, 2006, 01:22:40 PM
"er, Britain was defended in teh Battle of Britain by err, brits?"

...and some Poles, Czechs, Canadians, Free French etc

..and Ben Affleck of course.:aok
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Post by: Edbert on May 02, 2006, 01:38:12 PM
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Originally posted by Curval
Not a good idea for Americans to annoy Canadians...they might just burn down the White House....AGAIN.:lol

I've no problem with that as long as they promise to get capitol hill too.
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Post by: Bucky73 on May 02, 2006, 02:48:00 PM
Spiffing......Ya not reeeeeeeal sure what the point of your post was but ok dooky.:aok


Bucky:rofl
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Post by: MINNOW on May 02, 2006, 11:53:03 PM
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Originally posted by Spiffing
(world cup should be fun!) [/B]


What's this cup that you speak of?


Stanley Cup?

heh:D
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Post by: Edbert on May 03, 2006, 08:11:24 AM
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Originally posted by MINNOW
What's this cup that you speak of?


Stanley Cup?

Nah...they're Brits...it HAS to be a tea cup!
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Post by: Curval on May 03, 2006, 09:14:53 AM
The World Cup is kind of like the World Series....except that there are more than two countries playing (in fact LOTS are and many more were knocked out during qualifying rounds - The World Cup is actually the World Cup FINALS), the game is played by athletes and it is televised and watched by millions of people around the globe.

Other than my above examples it is JUST LIKE the World Series.

;)
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Post by: Ack-Ack on May 03, 2006, 10:03:22 AM
According to Homer Simpson, Canada is the United States older brother that has never had a girlfriend.



ack-ack
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Post by: Fencer51 on May 03, 2006, 11:11:09 AM
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Originally posted by Curval
The World Cup is kind of like the World Series....except that there are more than two countries playing (in fact LOTS are and many more were knocked out during qualifying rounds - The World Cup is actually the World Cup FINALS), the game is played by athletes and it is televised and watched by millions of people around the globe.

Other than my above examples it is JUST LIKE the World Series.

;)


Oh yeah I saw that, that Bulgarian guy's team beat the Irish.  Wonder what eny is for a broom anyway.
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Post by: Viper9th on May 03, 2006, 11:28:22 AM
Ah shut up you
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Post by: Spiffing on May 03, 2006, 12:31:43 PM
Spiffing......Ya not reeeeeeeal sure what the point of your post was but ok dooky.


there there, easy bucky, everythings ok. I know it's tough, sometimes it gets confusing

Rooney out of world cup :(((

Ben Aflick is not American, he's from Boston lol
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Post by: Alky on May 03, 2006, 06:43:52 PM
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
According to Homer Simpson, Canada is the United States older brother that has never had a girlfriend.

ack-ack

We're too busy supplying the actors to play in your movies....check it out! (http://particle.physics.ucdavis.edu/Canadians/actors.html)
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Post by: Viper9th on May 04, 2006, 02:00:12 PM
For all you 24 fans like em I know you all are, Kiefer Sutherland is Canadian so is the big tits on Pamela Anderson, FOOLS!
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Post by: soupcan on May 04, 2006, 03:10:38 PM
as this thread hinted about canada.......

would like to mention ..canada joined the war 3 days after the
brits and although not much is said about the canadians
they made quite an impact on the war for a country with
such a small population.

pretty much wrote the book on effective convoys and anti u-boat
tatics. had the 4th largest navy in the world by the end of the war
(although most ships were cargo )

gained a fearsome reputation as some of the toughest soldiers
in the conflict. (when there was a particularly stubborn target
alot of times it was the canadians who were sent in).

at any rate although i was born 20 years after the war ended
i get choked up and teary eyed when i think of all those brave
men who made the ultimate sacrifice (no matter what allied
country they were from).
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Post by: Alky on May 04, 2006, 09:37:51 PM
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Originally posted by soupcan

gained a fearsome reputation as some of the toughest soldiers
in the conflict.
Canadian military was a force to be reckoned with in WWII before the Americans got involved, now they suffer from years of Liberal cutbacks to the point that now they're an embarrasment as a fighting force. I feel sorry for the men and woman that endure todays shortfalls :(
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Post by: Spiffing on May 05, 2006, 09:52:25 AM
take the supperbowl, combine it with the Indy 500, and Nascar. then multiply it by 100 and you have the scale and following of the world cap, ie. the entire world, including I must say, a formidable US team this year.

ENGERRR LAAAANNNDDDD!!!
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Post by: SHawk on May 05, 2006, 10:51:18 AM
Someone Please Stop this Thread!!!!!!!!
It hurts my head and makes my donut shrink!!!!!!!:furious
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Post by: OOZ662 on May 05, 2006, 11:59:35 AM
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Originally posted by SHawk
Someone Please Stop this Thread!!!!!!!!
It hurts my head and makes my donut shrink!!!!!!!:furious


Glad to be of service. :rofl
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Post by: WMLute on May 05, 2006, 12:03:55 PM
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Originally posted by Pooface
yeah lol. it's really amazing when you see the interviews with them. they all insist that they didnt do anything special, they just did their duty, incredible really. all my grandparents say too, that it was their duty to stand up and fight for their country, and i guess that's why we held out so well, massive public support and effort.


while watching the Band of Brothers series, the last one IIRC when they were interviewing the actual surviving members, it was Dick Winters (I think?) when his grandson asked him if he was a hero in the war he said, “no, but I served in a company of heroes”.

Not afraid to say that moved me to tears.
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Post by: Viper9th on May 05, 2006, 04:13:20 PM
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Originally posted by soupcan
gained a fearsome reputation as some of the toughest soldiers
in the conflict. (when there was a particularly stubborn target
alot of times it was the canadians who were sent in).

at any rate although i was born 20 years after the war ended
i get choked up and teary eyed when i think of all those brave
men who made the ultimate sacrifice (no matter what allied
country they were from).


First Paragraph

Yes think about the canadians being the only ones sent to Dieppe and we had one of the hardest beaches on D-Day. Think of that...



Second Paragraph

No ****e. And Dick Winters put tears in my eyes when he said Company of Heroes too
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Post by: LePaul on May 05, 2006, 05:19:50 PM
Its a pity turned this into a flag waving party.

Aint got a problem with the Canucks or the Brits.  Or the Bermudians who cant secure their motorcycles :)