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Title: Mass Disco . . . AGAIN
Post by: GhostCDB on August 25, 2014, 08:49:27 PM
9:49EST

There is yet ANOTHER mass disco. . . .

 :furious
Title: Re: Mass Disco . . . AGAIN
Post by: Someguy63 on August 25, 2014, 09:51:34 PM
How many perks did you lose this time?




 :rofl
Title: Re: Mass Disco . . . AGAIN
Post by: MrKrabs on August 25, 2014, 10:49:27 PM
Boogey Woogie Baby

(http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2012/226/0/7/disco_crab__by_mrminos-d5b3ti1.jpg)
Title: Re: Mass Disco . . . AGAIN
Post by: Lusche on August 25, 2014, 10:50:03 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: Mass Disco . . . AGAIN
Post by: CASHEW on August 25, 2014, 11:08:25 PM
Its a hitech creations type of thing. never seen a game do it so often
Title: Re: Mass Disco . . . AGAIN
Post by: guncrasher on August 26, 2014, 12:34:28 AM
Its a hitech creations type of thing. never seen a game do it so often

you have never played world of tanks.



semp
Title: Re: Mass Disco . . . AGAIN
Post by: GhostCDB on August 26, 2014, 12:48:35 AM
How many perks did you lose this time?




 :rofl

I hope you step on a lego.
Title: Re: Mass Disco . . . AGAIN
Post by: Drane on August 26, 2014, 01:59:39 AM
Last night I was disco'd probably 20 times.  :bhead  Each time, except once, the AI put me back in game. It only showed up as 1 disco in my stats but was very annoying. Finally just gave up and logged off.

Pingplotter showed packet loss at X0.net between my isp brighthouse and verizon in Dallas.

If you have a choice, do not use X0.net as an internet service provider. When I called them up a few weeks ago to ask about the packet loss, they lied about it.  :furious When I called brighthouse, they said there wasn't anything they could do about it.  :cry

I'm still looking at other ISPs, but it appears the other service providers around here aren't much better.  :(

Title: Re: Mass Disco . . . AGAIN
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on August 26, 2014, 03:33:10 AM
Last night I was disco'd probably 20 times.  :bhead  Each time, except once, the AI put me back in game. It only showed up as 1 disco in my stats but was very annoying. Finally just gave up and logged off.

Pingplotter showed packet loss at X0.net between my isp brighthouse and verizon in Dallas.

If you have a choice, do not use X0.net as an internet service provider. When I called them up a few weeks ago to ask about the packet loss, they lied about it.  :furious When I called brighthouse, they said there wasn't anything they could do about it.  :cry

I'm still looking at other ISPs, but it appears the other service providers around here aren't much better.  :(



Just keep in mind that all routers do not respond to ICMP so ping plotter may report a perfectly functioning node as having 100% packet loss.
Title: Re: Mass Disco . . . AGAIN
Post by: Scca on August 26, 2014, 05:16:56 AM
Its a hitech creations type of thing. never seen a game do it so often

And you know it's HTC's problem/fault how?
Title: Re: Mass Disco . . . AGAIN
Post by: Randy1 on August 26, 2014, 06:27:44 AM
And you know it's HTC's problem/fault how?

Has HTC responded to this reoccurring problem and I just missed it? 

Title: Re: Mass Disco . . . AGAIN
Post by: Scca on August 26, 2014, 06:48:41 AM
Has HTC responded to this reoccurring problem and I just missed it? 


If you were to blame me for ebola, would I respond, not likely...

I have been playing since '06, in every case where I had an issue such as this, and it was on HTC's end, they addressed it and issued a mea culpa.

Not trying to mod here, but there is a bug report forum for these kinds of issues.  To roast hitech for something like this without direct knowledge of what is causing the issue is silly.  Could it be their fault, sure, but simply state "It's a hitech creations type of thing" with no evidence to support the claim ridiculous. 
Title: Re: Mass Disco . . . AGAIN
Post by: waystin2 on August 26, 2014, 08:42:00 AM
(http://www.eclectech.co.uk/b3ta/discocat.gif)
Title: Re: Mass Disco . . . AGAIN
Post by: Karnak on August 26, 2014, 08:45:07 AM
There have been a lot of DDoS attacks in the last couple of days.  I doubt they would have targeted AH (seems Blizzard and Riot Games were their targets) but there might have been some side effects that affected the internet.  The attackers did take down Battle.net and League of Legends, as well as call in a bomb threat on the airplane Sony's CEO was flying on forcing it to be diverted and searched.
Title: Re: Mass Disco . . . AGAIN
Post by: Drane on August 26, 2014, 09:06:40 AM
Just keep in mind that all routers do not respond to ICMP so ping plotter may report a perfectly functioning node as having 100% packet loss.

Losing 10% or more at X0.net. Plots are already posted here.

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,364183.0.html (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,364183.0.html)
Title: Re: Mass Disco . . . AGAIN
Post by: Skuzzy on August 26, 2014, 09:28:25 AM
Karnak is pretty much spot on.  There have been a huge increase in the number of 'distributed denial of service' attacks in the last week, or so.

Those attacks do not only impact the target, they impact every router between the target and attacker.  Really nothing we, at HTC, can do anything about.

If your traffic happens to be passing through one of those routers, you are probably going to experience a disco, or massive warping, at best.
Title: Re: Mass Disco . . . AGAIN
Post by: wpeters on August 26, 2014, 11:37:25 AM
Karnak is pretty much spot on.  There have been a huge increase in the number of 'distributed denial of service' attacks in the last week, or so.

Those attacks do not only impact the target, they impact every router between the target and attacker.  Really nothing we, at HTC, can do anything about.

If your traffic happens to be passing through one of those routers, you are probably going to experience a disco, or massive warping, at best.

Anyone know who is. Behind these attacks
Title: Re: Mass Disco . . . AGAIN
Post by: The Fugitive on August 26, 2014, 11:42:32 AM
Anyone know who is. Behind these attacks

I heard it was some LtCondor guy.


















 :devil
Title: Re: Mass Disco . . . AGAIN
Post by: wpeters on August 26, 2014, 11:45:06 AM
I heard it was some LtCondor guy.




 :furious :furious
















:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl










 :devil
Title: Re: Mass Disco . . . AGAIN
Post by: Randy1 on August 26, 2014, 11:52:58 AM

. . . To roast hitech for something like this without direct knowledge of what is causing the issue is silly.  Could it be their fault, sure, but simply state "It's a hitech creations type of thing" with no evidence to support the claim ridiculous. 

I think you read way too much into my question, "Has HTC responded to this reoccurring problem and I just missed it?"

Thanks Skuzzy for the answer.
Title: Re: Mass Disco . . . AGAIN
Post by: whiteman on August 26, 2014, 11:55:05 AM
Anyone know who is. Behind these attacks

here you go.

http://deadline.com/2014/08/playstation-network-ddos-attack-sony-online-entertainment-john-smedley-isis-lizard-squad-824084/ (http://deadline.com/2014/08/playstation-network-ddos-attack-sony-online-entertainment-john-smedley-isis-lizard-squad-824084/)
Title: Re: Mass Disco . . . AGAIN
Post by: Skuzzy on August 26, 2014, 01:36:58 PM
Yes, it is still going on and they are also hitting a few other companies.

Take up a perk ride at your own risk.  It is getting ugly out there.
Title: Re: Mass Disco . . . AGAIN
Post by: Scca on August 26, 2014, 01:40:24 PM
I think you read way too much into my question, "Has HTC responded to this reoccurring problem and I just missed it?"

Perhaps. if so, my bad   :salute
Title: Re: Mass Disco . . . AGAIN
Post by: Cthulhu on August 26, 2014, 02:07:11 PM
Yes, it is still going on and they are also hitting a few other companies.

Take up a perk ride at your own risk.  It is getting ugly out there.
I know that Charter's DNS servers have also come under attack, just to add to the overall misery.
Title: Re: Mass Disco . . . AGAIN
Post by: Skuzzy on August 26, 2014, 02:17:55 PM
The best thing to do to protect your perk points is to use Ping Plotter to see if there is packet loss between you and the servers.  If not, then you can roll the dice.  If there is, then don't do it.  Those perk rides will be there tomorrow, or whenever this thing gets cleared up.
Title: Re: Mass Disco . . . AGAIN
Post by: CASHEW on August 26, 2014, 02:22:46 PM
And you know it's HTC's problem/fault how?
If other game companys can make i not happen so cam hitech
Title: Re: Mass Disco . . . AGAIN
Post by: Skuzzy on August 26, 2014, 02:36:36 PM
If other game companys can make i not happen so cam hitech

Other game companies are suffering through it as well.  None of the game companies have control over the Internet.

It is not impacting all the players either.  Only those who are unfortunate enough for their data path to cross one of the hundreds of routers being impacted by it.  It is pretty easy to tell if you are impacted by it, or not.

If this was a server problem, it would impact everyone, quite equally.

If this was something we could fix, it would have already been fixed.

I do know how to fix it.  All the Tier 1 ISP's know who it is.  All they have to do is contact the hosting ISP, of those who are participating in this DdOS attack and ask them to shut down those users.  If they fail to do so, then pull the ASN number from the routers, for that ISP.  Ta-Da!  Problem resolved.
Title: Re: Mass Disco . . . AGAIN
Post by: Flench on August 26, 2014, 03:45:51 PM
those who are participating in this DdOS attack and ask them to shut down those users. 
Can you tell us what that is ?
Title: Re: Mass Disco . . . AGAIN
Post by: Skuzzy on August 26, 2014, 03:52:39 PM
DdOS = Distributed denial of Service
Title: Re: Mass Disco . . . AGAIN
Post by: Rondar on August 26, 2014, 04:07:32 PM
DdOS = Distributed denial of Service

Hmmm my wife has known of this tactic for a while.   :banana:
Title: Re: Mass Disco . . . AGAIN
Post by: Randy1 on August 26, 2014, 04:34:02 PM
Perhaps. if so, my bad   :salute

No problem. :aok
Title: Re: Mass Disco . . . AGAIN
Post by: Wiley on August 26, 2014, 05:09:40 PM
Hmmm my wife has known of this tactic for a while.   :banana:

Must... resist... cheapshot... control... finger...

"Distributed"?  :devil  :bolt:

Nothing personal, just too beautiful of a setup to not knock down. ;)  Mine is also well versed in this tactic.

Wiley.
Title: Re: Mass Disco . . . AGAIN
Post by: Skuzzy on August 27, 2014, 01:50:53 PM
Today, Twitch is being slammed with a DDoS attack.  Anyone in those data paths will be impacted.
Title: Re: Mass Disco . . . AGAIN
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on August 28, 2014, 09:35:03 AM
Hmmm my wife has known of this tactic for a while.   :banana:

You do understand that if she would implement that it would either mean her service is constantly pounded by others prohibiting you from getting in - or she's constantly pounding your 'targets' making them too busy to respond to you. Either way I wouldn't brag about it  :rofl
Title: Re: Mass Disco . . . AGAIN
Post by: CASHEW on August 29, 2014, 02:37:05 AM
Other game companies are suffering through it as well.  None of the game companies have control over the Internet.

It is not impacting all the players either.  Only those who are unfortunate enough for their data path to cross one of the hundreds of routers being impacted by it.  It is pretty easy to tell if you are impacted by it, or not.

If this was a server problem, it would impact everyone, quite equally.

If this was something we could fix, it would have already been fixed.

I do know how to fix it.  All the Tier 1 ISP's know who it is.  All they have to do is contact the hosting ISP, of those who are participating in this DdOS attack and ask them to shut down those users.  If they fail to do so, then pull the ASN number from the routers, for that ISP.  Ta-Da!  Problem resolved.
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