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Title: Zoom 'in', 'out' does not work
Post by: mookdog on December 14, 2011, 01:02:11 PM
 For just the last few days,the 'zoom in' and 'zoom out' functions have not been working.I've flown a Saitec X-52 for close to 2 yrs.I have mapped both my keys and controller with 'zoom toggle','zoom in &out'.In the cockpit,a gun and the bomb-sight,only the 'toggle' works,and that gives a short fixed zoom.For a fighter,that doesn't hurt,but in a bomber I can't see to hit anything above 12,000ft.In an attack craft,it's almost impossible to line up multiple targets with out the 'zoom'.'Zoom in & out' still work in exterior view or F3.
 Hope I can resolve this. :salute
Title: Re: Zoom 'in', 'out' does not work
Post by: Krusty on December 14, 2011, 01:15:40 PM
Pull up your clipboard when you're pressing them. Does the map zoom in and out? Maybe you have the wrong thing mapped? There's map zoom and then visual zoom. Look for zoom FOV (Field of View) or something. I can't recall the exact wording.


Also make sure you have no axis mapped as a slider for zoom FOV. That will negate the individual buttons you've mapped.
Title: Re: Zoom 'in', 'out' does not work
Post by: mookdog on December 15, 2011, 10:33:12 AM
 I have map-zoom tagged to 'insert,delete'.That's not the problem.Re-read my post.I have been in AH for close to 3yrs.I know the difference between 'map zoom' and 'view zoom'.I have no sliders mapped to 'view zoom'. This problem has only come up in the last few days.
Title: Re: Zoom 'in', 'out' does not work
Post by: Skuzzy on December 15, 2011, 11:00:18 AM
Are you using the Saitek software?  I am not sure I understand what you mean when you say you have the 'insert' and 'delete' keys tagged.
Title: Re: Zoom 'in', 'out' does not work
Post by: mookdog on December 15, 2011, 11:31:37 AM
 I meant to say 'I have 'map zoom' mapped not tagged to the 'insert & delete keys'.My 'view zoom' is what is not working.This Saitec does not require drivers or software.When I goto 'map controllers' and use the 'view zoom' that I have mapped,it jumps to and highlights the button and the assignment: View zoom in or View zoom out. When I man a field gun,a tank machine gun,a bomber gun,in the cock pit,or the bomb sight,I get a short,fixed zoom.In exterior view or
F3 I still get 'view zoom in & out'.
 I have used this controller for 2yrs and have had no problems.The problem is too specific in the game to be my controller."Zoom in F3,NO Zoom in bomb sight".
p.s. I used to be a pretty good bomber until now.
 
Title: Re: Zoom 'in', 'out' does not work
Post by: Skuzzy on December 15, 2011, 12:25:02 PM
I am still confused.

The 'insert' and 'delete' keys use the Global->Map Zoom In and Global->Map Zoom Out commands.  These are very specific to the clipboard map only

The other zoom commands for everything else are as follows:

View->Zoom Default
View->Zoom In
View->Zoom Out
View->Zoom Toggle

You have not mentioned the "Zoom Toggle" command, which is used to enable and disable Zoom mode.  Zoom mode has to be enabled before he View->Zoom In or View->Zoom Out commands will work.
Title: Re: Zoom 'in', 'out' does not work
Post by: mookdog on December 15, 2011, 01:13:02 PM
 When I use the 'zoom toggle'(which I have had mapped since I've owned the controller),I get a short fixed zoom.I checked today and when I'm in the Wirble gun,'zoom in & zoom out' work.Funny.Bomb sight still doesn't 'zoom in or zoom out'.
Title: Re: Zoom 'in', 'out' does not work
Post by: Spoiler on December 24, 2011, 10:17:26 PM
I lost my hard drive and am in the process of setting my X52 pro up again. I am having the same problem. Mine works in the Wirble too but not in any guns, etc...

Is this possibly something in the last update gone wrong?

Note that the standard command for Zoom In and Zoom Out [ and ] are not working either.

And Yes, I know about Z for Toggle Zoom.

HELP!!!!
Title: Re: Zoom 'in', 'out' does not work
Post by: mookdog on December 25, 2011, 12:12:53 PM
 Mine is the same,but I found out that I get 'View-zoom in & out' in a tank machine gun & the commanders position.I have re-installed,still the same.I have been learning to work around this.Oh well...
Title: Re: Zoom 'in', 'out' does not work
Post by: wil3ur on December 25, 2011, 12:30:14 PM
You may have your zoom set to "All the way out" at which point, zoom doesn't do anything.

Try experimenting with your Bracket keys:  [ and ]

These control the amount of zoom experienced when toggling your zoom key.  Quite often, this is what is broken.
Title: Re: Zoom 'in', 'out' does not work
Post by: Spoiler on December 25, 2011, 04:36:18 PM
I think we all understand how it works as we've been using it for years. The bracket keys are what no longer work in "many" cases. The easiest to see is the field ack gun.


Skuzzy?  Please help???


Thanks to everyone who is trying to help too!  I wonder if it is just the latest release or maybe something to do with Windows 7, 64 bit?

Title: Re: Zoom 'in', 'out' does not work
Post by: Lusche on December 25, 2011, 06:55:48 PM
I think we all understand how it works as we've been using it for years. The bracket keys are what no longer work in "many" cases. The easiest to see is the field ack gun.


This may not be a technical problem on your part.

Field guns in the form of 17lb AT guns, just like many tank gunner positions, do not have that kind of zoom any more. Often there is just one level of fixed maginifaction, or in some cases two (switching between those by hitting Z)
Title: Re: Zoom 'in', 'out' does not work
Post by: guncrasher on December 25, 2011, 07:14:58 PM
this is an old bug that keeps poping up every now and then on a couple of systems.  try to map the zoom in out keys to  [ ]  that's how i fixed mine.  problem went away on its own after a couple of updates.  I know it doesnt sound logical but that's how it went for me.  last i heard anybody complaining about it was about 1 or 2 years ago.  there's an old thread with some recommendations on how to fix it that worked for some people.  i believe it has to do with clearing the registry entries for the x52 plus some other ideas.  that helped some people.  that thread is in this forum.


semp
Title: Re: Zoom 'in', 'out' does not work
Post by: 11Kenzy on December 26, 2011, 05:39:47 AM
Just map the View - Zoom In and View - Zoom Out to the [ and ] brackets, it's the simplest way to fix this problem. Besides, I have never run into that.
Title: Re: Zoom 'in', 'out' does not work
Post by: wil3ur on December 26, 2011, 11:59:34 AM
You can also hit the "H" key if your mouse stops working

 :devil
Title: Re: Zoom 'in', 'out' does not work
Post by: mookdog on December 30, 2011, 10:50:52 AM
I have mapped 'View->zoom in & zoom out' to the bracket [ ] keys.I have also made sure to map 'View->zoom toggle'.No joy.
Title: Re: Zoom 'in', 'out' does not work
Post by: Skuzzy on December 30, 2011, 11:02:54 AM
It makes no sense that it works in one place and not another.  The command is not sensitive to location, but there are places where it does not work at all, but used to work a while back.

If it does not work at all, then I suspect the keys themselves have been remapped and you need to use the "Fix Key" button in Options->Controls->Map Keys to correct for it.  I have seen this happening lately with certain other software products remapping/capturing keys.
Title: Re: Zoom 'in', 'out' does not work
Post by: cattb on December 30, 2011, 11:07:50 AM
Your problem I noticed is the same problem I noticed. I use the dial by the slider to zoom. Will not work with bombing. I either reset ket to [] when bombing or I use the the way it is by; hit z move adjustment a little(zoom) hit z and repeat cycle until amount of zoom is desired. Resetting to [] the easiest to use.

The zoom works with everything I have found  except  the bombsight.  

Maybe it can be fixed so the function would work with the bombsite.

Title: Re: Zoom 'in', 'out' does not work
Post by: mookdog on December 30, 2011, 01:16:41 PM
 If you remember I have a Saitec X52 controller.Today I read in an old post to delete mappings for stick and re-map.Instead,I first tried clicking on 'Default map' and re-mapped everything.That has seemed to work so far.
Title: Re: Zoom 'in', 'out' does not work
Post by: cattb on December 30, 2011, 01:26:45 PM
I also have a saitek x52, but I have not tried to fix it. I just use a work around, if climbing out in a bomber I just change my stick preferences and be done.

The problem I mentioned about not being able to zoom using bombsite was here 2007  and is still here the last time I used the bombsite.

Title: Re: Zoom 'in', 'out' does not work
Post by: wil3ur on December 30, 2011, 05:41:37 PM
...since this discussion has moved to keymapping configurations and work arounds, I have a question that butts with this one.  How many control modes are there?  Currently I have 3 mapped.  1 for Planes, GV's, and Godseye view.  I use all of them at one point or another an nearly a daily basis, so I don't want to get rid of my mappings...  but I do want to setup a fourth control mode to separate fighter and bomber keymappings.  Is this possible, or is there only the 3?  It's been so long since I've set anything up, I don't want to mess with what I already have, and if a workaround is needed, this might be a quick way for people to get around the problem.

1 control mode/key mapping for fighters
1 control mode/key mapping for buffs (with your zoom set to brackets).

It's just a thought, but it'd also be sweet if I can make new ones.
Title: Re: Zoom 'in', 'out' does not work
Post by: Lusche on December 30, 2011, 06:08:17 PM
...since this discussion has moved to keymapping configurations and work arounds, I have a question that butts with this one.  How many control modes are there? 


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Title: Re: Zoom 'in', 'out' does not work
Post by: 1Cane on January 07, 2012, 08:07:14 PM
 I have the same problem with my X52 zoom toggle quit working on button 30. I have an old stick and it wont work on that stick either! Button 31 weapon select same result.After reading this post tried Default map only differnce was i was able to map zoom toggle and weapon select to new keys.Buttons 30,31 are still non op.
This is a new computer with a new download, i have even changed the settings on zoom toggle in map keys :joystick:
Title: Re: Zoom 'in', 'out' does not work
Post by: 1Cane on January 08, 2012, 01:11:50 PM
 :bhead Still not working deleted game and reinstalled.!Buttons 30 and 31 are still in-op Zoom toggle and weapons select will remap to different key any suggestions?
Title: Re: Zoom 'in', 'out' does not work
Post by: wil3ur on January 08, 2012, 04:10:50 PM
are those buttons working?  Maybe they are the culprit.
Title: Re: Zoom 'in', 'out' does not work
Post by: 1Cane on January 08, 2012, 09:28:18 PM
I have an old stick that worked same result, have spare cable same result .Checked it on Saitek site and all controls and buttons are good
 :joystick:
Title: Re: Zoom 'in', 'out' does not work
Post by: The Fugitive on January 08, 2012, 09:53:07 PM
Ya'll do know they changed how the zoom works a while back right? You can no longer zoom in a ton like you use to in a tank. They now have set ranges, some are not very much at all. I just wanted to point this out just in case you missed the info at the time of the update. If your trying to get the zoom back it will never work.

If not, please disregard this post  :D
Title: Re: Zoom 'in', 'out' does not work
Post by: 1Cane on January 09, 2012, 10:08:47 AM
 :banana:
Title: Re: Zoom 'in', 'out' does not work
Post by: 1Cane on January 09, 2012, 10:11:09 AM
It was a microsoft download causing the problem! Going to third restore point cured it in windows 7 :banana: