General Forums => Hardware and Software => Topic started by: Max on December 06, 2019, 04:27:47 PM
Title: Woe is me
Post by: Max on December 06, 2019, 04:27:47 PM
So in the end stages of A 4 V 1 yesterday I inadvertently toppled over my beverage glass and about 6 oz of water ran onto my desk...part of that slid off the side and onto my desktop case below. The perforated fan area allowed some water inside and about 15 seconds later I heard a POP, and the computer died. :bhead I waited overnight to try turning it on and when I did, nothing...nada...zip. My question to the group is, might there be any hope? If not, what's salvagable? Talk about feeling like a dikwad. :angry:
Title: Re: Woe is me
Post by: Easyscor on December 06, 2019, 04:44:43 PM
The drives (HD & SSD) should be okay as the case would usually protect the circuits in the usual flat installation. If you (hopefully) opened the case right away to check on things, you should have seen where the fluid went. That should give you an indication of where to start. Hopefully, the liquid didn't land on the power supply at the back of the case as that could cause wonky voltages.
Good luck
Title: Re: Woe is me
Post by: CptTrips on December 06, 2019, 06:05:21 PM
Title: Re: Woe is me
Post by: Shuffler on December 06, 2019, 06:54:11 PM
An idea of where the liquid ran to would help. Front, back, side, where?
Title: Re: Woe is me
Post by: Max on December 06, 2019, 08:43:36 PM
Best guess is towards the top back. Power supply would be below.
Title: Re: Woe is me
Post by: save on December 07, 2019, 03:35:29 AM
How to test a powersupply without the motherboard:
Title: Re: Woe is me
Post by: Shuffler on December 07, 2019, 05:24:38 AM
If it is the power supply, and it is on top in the back, there is a chance it did not hurt anything else. I would make absolutely sure there is no other moisture in the system and then install another power supply to see if it will come up.
Title: Re: Woe is me
Post by: Max on December 07, 2019, 06:40:40 AM
Save, you've tried this? I get that it's from WIKI HOW but don't want to take down the power grid on the street I live on :devil
Update: Several other websites are in synch with Save's suggestion. Before going forward, are there any other components that would make a POP noise due to liquid? My 1060 Ti card sits over the PS but off to the side a wee bit.
Title: Re: Woe is me
Post by: Meatwad on December 07, 2019, 07:11:12 AM
Call me paranoid, but after reading some of the articles on wikihow I no longer trust their judgement
Title: Re: Woe is me
Post by: TequilaChaser on December 07, 2019, 08:21:36 AM
Before going forward, are there any other components that would make a POP noise due to liquid? My 1060 Ti card sits over the PS but off to the side a wee bit.
Do you possibly have a spare computer that you know works without any issues, that you could take components like your GPU, PSU, Memory DIMMs, fans, etc.....and plug in to the spare computer to "test", to see if any of the components in question will power up? With no problems....
Any liquid/mist/moisture that came in contact with any fans or got in the airflow stream of any of the fans (case fans, GPU fans, PSU fan, CPU fan, etc..) could have blown liquid/mist/moisture on to any components and/or areas of the Motherboard....
Regarding if their are any components that would make a "popping noise" due to liquid getting on them?....the first thing that comes to mind is that your Motherboard, GPU or PSU blew or popped a capacitor....
If it was my computer, I would open/remove both side panels and before completely stripping the computer down, I would perform a thorough inspection of the MB looking for any swollen or bursted/popped capacitors....(note: some PSUs have fuses in them, as well as capacitors....also, GPUs have capacitors as well)
I would also obtain a can of CRC electronics & electrical parts cleaning spray (this spray cleans on contact and quickly evaporates any and all moisture away to dry areas....
Hope this helps
TC / Johnny
Title: Re: Woe is me
Post by: Drano on December 07, 2019, 12:14:10 PM
Everything TC said. Clearly something went boom. That's the bad news and you're definitely gonna have to replace whatever that part was. The potential good news is that just because that thing died may not necessarily mean everything else died with it. So cross your fingers and hope you can salvage some stuff. Just make sure you've throughly inspected and cleaned each component you're gonna test before plugging them into another PC. No sense killing two machines right? Electronic parts that go pop should show an obvious but maybe tiny burned spot at least. See that and just assume that part is dead. Don't even try putting juice to it.
I'm a plumber but I just can't bring myself to do a water cooling setup for this exact reason! Water and electricity don't mix!
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Title: Re: Woe is me
Post by: Max on December 07, 2019, 03:39:39 PM
I took the patient to a local repair shop and await evaluation. My lack of expertise would only lead to more problems. :old:
Thanks for the replies ! :salute
Title: Re: Woe is me
Post by: save on December 13, 2019, 10:41:33 AM
Save, you've tried this? I get that it's from WIKI HOW but don't want to take down the power grid on the street I live on :devil
Update: Several other websites are in synch with Save's suggestion. Before going forward, are there any other components that would make a POP noise due to liquid? My 1060 Ti card sits over the PS but off to the side a wee bit.
I have, many times, and it works.
Title: Re: Woe is me
Post by: Ramesis on December 13, 2019, 02:12:48 PM
Title: Re: Woe is me
Post by: Max on December 13, 2019, 04:38:06 PM
All's well that ends well. I'm up and running and luckily only had to pony up for a power supply and the diagnostics/labor. The mid-tower now sits next to & above my desk and far away from tasty adult beverages. :rofl
Title: Re: Woe is me
Post by: FLS on December 13, 2019, 07:02:57 PM
:aok
Title: Re: Woe is me
Post by: Meatwad on December 13, 2019, 09:31:43 PM
Late but I found a power supply tester on amazon that looks pretty handy
Although that's not expensive, the paper clip does the same for free.'
I have one of these:https://www.amazon.com/Comidox-Computer-Supply-Tester-Automatic/dp/B07J9LRC6T/ref=sr_1_11?keywords=power+supply+tester&qid=1576335019&sr=8-11 (https://www.amazon.com/Comidox-Computer-Supply-Tester-Automatic/dp/B07J9LRC6T/ref=sr_1_11?keywords=power+supply+tester&qid=1576335019&sr=8-11). It's a tad better than just a switch/clip, it also tells the voltages and Power Good time. Basically it's a dedicated multimeter. What's common with these cheap testers is that they don't tell how the PSU works loaded.
Title: Re: Woe is me
Post by: TequilaChaser on December 14, 2019, 09:04:04 AM
Although that's not expensive, the paper clip does the same for free.'
I have one of these:https://www.amazon.com/Comidox-Computer-Supply-Tester-Automatic/dp/B07J9LRC6T/ref=sr_1_11?keywords=power+supply+tester&qid=1576335019&sr=8-11 (https://www.amazon.com/Comidox-Computer-Supply-Tester-Automatic/dp/B07J9LRC6T/ref=sr_1_11?keywords=power+supply+tester&qid=1576335019&sr=8-11). It's a tad better than just a switch/clip, it also tells the voltages and Power Good time. Basically it's a dedicated multimeter. What's common with these cheap testers is that they don't tell how the PSU works loaded.
That's Dang near identical to mine...but I paid nearly $30 around 9 or 10 years ago....
They do come in very handy
Title: Re: Woe is me
Post by: Bizman on December 14, 2019, 09:15:41 AM