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Title: Looking to get 10-15 folks for strategic attacks
Post by: rebelpride99 on June 26, 2015, 06:58:50 PM
Im not looking to start a squad, just trying to get 10 to 15 folks that want to take some bases, any night is good for me. Anyone IN??? My ingame is Razorbck
Title: Re: Looking to get 10-15 folks for strategic attacks
Post by: Wizz on June 26, 2015, 09:21:55 PM
Im not looking to start a squad, just trying to get 10 to 15 folks that want to take some bases, any night is good for me. Anyone IN??? My ingame is Razorbck
Wish I wasnt taking a break from the game or id help you out. Taking bases is a forte of mine  :salute

You will come to find the more who help the harder it is to take a base. There are too many alphas bent on self glorification to effectively make those numbers work.

If you love tatical play master playing in buffs. Learn how to white flag a town and deack it with one set of lancasters. I would also learn how to defend your buffs while your at it.

I have heard many times that anyone can wf/deack a town. This may be true but you have to learn how first. When you can do this and survive 2 or more interceptors in the process you only need a trusty troop runner.

Personally im at a level these days where I can do this with almost 100% success rate. The last time i was stopped when i actually was trying against a well defended base i managed to drop the town and all but 2 guns having shot down 3 of rook nations best before being stopped by a forth. This was after 17 base takes earlier that night against bish.

When you dont have to rely on anyone else your success will sky rocket!
Title: Re: Looking to get 10-15 folks for strategic attacks
Post by: guncrasher on June 26, 2015, 10:51:56 PM
Wish I wasnt taking a break from the game or id help you out. Taking bases is a forte of mine  :salute

You will come to find the more who help the harder it is to take a base. There are too many alphas bent on self glorification to effectively make those numbers work.

If you love tatical play master playing in buffs. Learn how to white flag a town and deack it with one set of lancasters. I would also learn how to defend your buffs while your at it.

I have heard many times that anyone can wf/deack a town. This may be true but you have to learn how first. When you can do this and survive 2 or more interceptors in the process you only need a trusty troop runner.

Personally im at a level these days where I can do this with almost 100% success rate. The last time i was stopped when i actually was trying against a well defended base i managed to drop the town and all but 2 guns having shot down 3 of rook nations best before being stopped by a forth. This was after 17 base takes earlier that night against bish.

When you dont have to rely on anyone else your success will sky rocket!

good way to contradict yourself.


semp
Title: Re: Looking to get 10-15 folks for strategic attacks
Post by: Wizz on June 27, 2015, 12:33:52 AM
good way to contradict yourself.


semp
:rofl

You so funny semp but you got it twisted... that was a universal statement about this game.

but seriously OP take my advice literally. Do not depend on anyone in this game. Get yourself to a level where you dictate your own success. Unless you have 2 pc's and can both prep a base and run your own troops(i have before many times but the game imo doesnt deserve $30 a month from me anymore) you will find the most success with a 2-3 man team.

I have been where your at wanting to make a team for base takes. This game is all about how you invest your time. I dont like to waste "my" time at all when i play. When you depend on others people will fail because afyer all its just a game.

Semp i still daydream aboit your flaming pony from time to time.... and how you spent that whole time following my buffs and when 3 of your fellow swine squadies were attacking I lit you up like a roman candle and kept on trucking despite the 163's and 262 and 152 lol :cheers:

You still suck without your squad. Unlike me who doesnt need one to find great success in this game :neener:

and i dont want to here about how good of a fighter semp can be. Anyone who dedicates enough time at something in this game can be good at it.

Tatical is a whole other ball game. Semp has no tatical skills. He is a great guy to have as a wingman and im sure a great guy once you get to know him personally.  :old:









Title: Re: Looking to get 10-15 folks for strategic attacks
Post by: JunkyII on June 27, 2015, 01:27:29 AM
Wish I wasnt taking a break from the game or id help you out. Taking bases is a forte of mine  :salute

You will come to find the more who help the harder it is to take a base. There are too many alphas bent on self glorification to effectively make those numbers work.

If you love tatical play master playing in buffs. Learn how to white flag a town and deack it with one set of lancasters. I would also learn how to defend your buffs while your at it.

I have heard many times that anyone can wf/deack a town. This may be true but you have to learn how first. When you can do this and survive 2 or more interceptors in the process you only need a trusty troop runner.

Personally im at a level these days where I can do this with almost 100% success rate. The last time i was stopped when i actually was trying against a well defended base i managed to drop the town and all but 2 guns having shot down 3 of rook nations best before being stopped by a forth. This was after 17 base takes earlier that night against bish.

When you dont have to rely on anyone else your success will sky rocket!
100% success rate at finding an undefended field.
Title: Re: Looking to get 10-15 folks for strategic attacks
Post by: rebelpride99 on June 27, 2015, 08:05:20 AM
ive been in the game for quite a while, Used to fly aces high and we had a hoot doing strategic missions, seems there arent any squads in here that does that. I thought the easiest way to get something started would be to have one night where anyone knit bish rook that wanted to take some bases could get togther witout leaving their squad.
Title: Re: Looking to get 10-15 folks for strategic attacks
Post by: Wizz on June 27, 2015, 11:30:07 AM
100% success rate at finding an undefended field.

no no Junky and i know what your talking about! Many bases I have taken are defended and sometimes very very well. Yes everytime i target a base take im hoping its not defended but thats not always the case. Players are smart, to take a defended base you have to be smarter. Driving an m3 20-50miles to the base is normally the difference maker.

When they dont defend I roll a front. 15-20 bases over 4-6 hours is nothing and it does serve a purpose. If the enemy has to focus on getting his bases back hes not attacking you!

Title: Re: Looking to get 10-15 folks for strategic attacks
Post by: Wizz on June 27, 2015, 11:33:30 AM
ive been in the game for quite a while, Used to fly aces high and we had a hoot doing strategic missions, seems there arent any squads in here that does that. I thought the easiest way to get something started would be to have one night where anyone knit bish rook that wanted to take some bases could get togther witout leaving their squad.

Pigs on the wing, shade hunters, Jarbo and company, alchemist, and a few others do what your looking for from time to time. Im sure any one of these groups would love to have you along when they are tactical!
Title: Re: Looking to get 10-15 folks for strategic attacks
Post by: Rich46yo on June 27, 2015, 12:15:09 PM
Im not looking to start a squad, just trying to get 10 to 15 folks that want to take some bases, any night is good for me. Anyone IN??? My ingame is Razorbck

Well you maybe did not find help but at least you can mark off a self glorification Prince of AH "who BTW isnt even playing now". I think nowadays your best chance is playing Bish on one of their squad nights. They seem to do this kinda thing most now and in some fun airplanes to boot. Like P-38s, P-47s, other 20+ eny Jabo's I always found fun.
Title: Re: Looking to get 10-15 folks for strategic attacks
Post by: Wizz on June 27, 2015, 12:45:58 PM
Well you maybe did not find help but at least you can mark off a self glorification Prince of AH "who BTW isnt even playing now". I think nowadays your best chance is playing Bish on one of their squad nights. They seem to do this kinda thing most now and in some fun airplanes to boot. Like P-38s, P-47s, other 20+ eny Jabo's I always found fun.
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We all sometimes need a break from the game  :aok

OP.... if hordes are your style then yes follow this guys advice!
Title: Re: Looking to get 10-15 folks for strategic attacks
Post by: Wizz on June 27, 2015, 01:06:23 PM
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What takes a horde of Bish to accomplish I can do with 1 trusty troop runner!

When we started this night, Knights did not own 1 bish base. After 9 bases the rest of Knights got on board and we rolled a total of 26 bases in under 6 hrs! This was one of many dozens of nights over the last 4 months. You see I back my stink up :bolt:

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Title: Re: Looking to get 10-15 folks for strategic attacks
Post by: Zimme83 on June 27, 2015, 01:21:40 PM
wow... U were in a horde that rolled some bases. Im impressed.  :aok Must be the first time I see a horde take bases.
Title: Re: Looking to get 10-15 folks for strategic attacks
Post by: Wizz on June 27, 2015, 01:55:50 PM
wow... U were in a horde that rolled some bases. Im impressed.  :aok Must be the first time I see a horde take bases.
lol i never horde...

thats funny. Bish player thinks you can only roll a front with a horde. There were a total of 7 players max who helped off and on the entire time and there were never more than 3 at a base.

LoL i will avoid the horde at all cost.  :rofl
Title: Re: Looking to get 10-15 folks for strategic attacks
Post by: rebelpride99 on June 27, 2015, 08:01:59 PM
it doesent take a horde to take a base even if it defended if you have skilled pilots mixed in with gvs
Title: Re: Looking to get 10-15 folks for strategic attacks
Post by: Wizz on June 27, 2015, 08:03:43 PM
it doesent take a horde to take a base even if it defended if you have skilled pilots mixed in with gvs

Somebody freakn pick this guy up please!!!

We need more players like you :salute
Title: Re: Looking to get 10-15 folks for strategic attacks
Post by: FBKampfer on June 27, 2015, 09:50:35 PM
And here's another thread Wizz f***ed up.
Title: Re: Looking to get 10-15 folks for strategic attacks
Post by: Wizz on June 27, 2015, 11:52:46 PM
And here's another thread Wizz f***ed up.
:rofl  :cheers:
Title: Re: Looking to get 10-15 folks for strategic attacks
Post by: NatCigg on June 28, 2015, 09:19:36 AM
Fly bish razor. they do  missions.  If you see me on holler and we can get started.  I prefer a mission with a mix of bombers and fighters, but it is asking alot to coordinate it all.  throw gvs in and its even tougher.

I would really like to get a few guys so each is a lead for each group. this helps with timing and organizational workload.

Really hope to hear see you out there.  good missions are what make this game grate.

Stay away from knights. they are a silly bunch and will train you in the ways of being a selfish salamander.

Rooks have good missions also.

 :salute
Title: Re: Looking to get 10-15 folks for strategic attacks
Post by: DREDIOCK on June 28, 2015, 09:33:50 AM
lol i never horde...

thats funny. Bish player thinks you can only roll a front with a horde. There were a total of 7 players max who helped off and on the entire time and there were never more than 3 at a base.

LoL i will avoid the horde at all cost.  :rofl

Considering there were only 35 players all countries combined at the time of that snapshot. And most of those remaining were probably more interested in fighting each other then defending bases. 7 players is a horde
Title: Re: Looking to get 10-15 folks for strategic attacks
Post by: hgtonyvi on June 28, 2015, 10:13:44 AM
Fly bish razor. they do  missions.  If you see me on holler and we can get started.  I prefer a mission with a mix of bombers and fighters, but it is asking alot to coordinate it all.  throw gvs in and its even tougher.

I would really like to get a few guys so each is a lead for each group. this helps with timing and organizational workload.

Really hope to hear see you out there.  good missions are what make this game grate.

Stay away from knights. they are a silly bunch and will train you in the ways of being a selfish salamander.

Rooks have good missions also.

 :salute
Yo natcigg stop trying to hijack my squady ok. Just cuz I'm not playing at the moment doesn't mean you can try and steal him. Btw you bad talk knights? I fly knights, Ill pound you when I return lol.
Title: Re: Looking to get 10-15 folks for strategic attacks
Post by: Traveler on June 28, 2015, 12:22:54 PM
100% success rate at finding an undefended field.

Its not the attackers fault if a field goes undefended.
Title: Re: Looking to get 10-15 folks for strategic attacks
Post by: FBKampfer on June 28, 2015, 12:53:36 PM
Its not the attackers fault if a field goes undefended.


I've never understood this logic. If everyone at keyboard is already engaged, is the expectation that they simply bail to go defend?

Do you just think it's impossible that everyone is either AFK or doing something else?
Title: Re: Looking to get 10-15 folks for strategic attacks
Post by: guncrasher on June 28, 2015, 06:16:12 PM
:rofl

You so funny semp but you got it twisted... that was a universal statement about this game.

but seriously OP take my advice literally. Do not depend on anyone in this game. Get yourself to a level where you dictate your own success.


you obviously have not flown with the pigs.


semp
Title: Re: Looking to get 10-15 folks for strategic attacks
Post by: Wizz on June 28, 2015, 06:46:37 PM
Considering there were only 35 players all countries combined at the time of that snapshot. And most of those remaining were probably more interested in fighting each other then defending bases. 7 players is a horde
photo was taken at 330am central time after 6 hrs on a thursday night...

nice try :aok

When Ltown and I began knights had been bogged down trying to take an airbase and port on their island for quite sometime. We took a base on bish island undefended and steam rolled from there. At no point did a horde ever materialize.

It was nice to have Jvleese, Razor, and company that night! LTown and I at one point launched 2 sets of 29's abd successfully wfluffied 4 bases in a row while 2 players followed behind deacking and running troops. 4 bases in less than an hour falling like dominoes. Its how it should be done. Each bases was lightly defended but went down without a hitch.

Its a real delight to fly with players who know what to do and do it very well!

Another highlight was revenge against the Bish city. Bish launched a large and very successful city raid dropping it to 28%. Ltown and I had decided after that mission that we would sneak a base near their city and we pulled it off. When we were done the two of us had the city down to 17%.

We started the night with a AAA run and got it to 0%.

My point this whole time is not to brag despite a lot of you guys seeing it that way. It to show that fewer numbers is a lot more effective.
Title: Re: Looking to get 10-15 folks for strategic attacks
Post by: Wizz on June 28, 2015, 06:47:48 PM
Its not the attackers fault if a field goes undefended.
thank you!

I will always target a base i think will go undefended it just doesnt always work that way.
Title: Re: Looking to get 10-15 folks for strategic attacks
Post by: DREDIOCK on June 28, 2015, 07:06:08 PM
photo was taken at 330am central time after 6 hrs on a thursday night...

nice try :aok



Then perhaps you should have included a screen shot that was taken at 12:00 am as opposed to 3:30.
It would have made your point a bit more convincing.
Title: Re: Looking to get 10-15 folks for strategic attacks
Post by: Wizz on June 28, 2015, 07:30:34 PM
Then perhaps you should have included a screen shot that was taken at 12:00 am as opposed to 3:30.
It would have made your point a bit more convincing.
Really? Really?

LoL some of you people really crack me up. At midnight the night was like any other night. At midnight it was just Ltown and I who had done anything on the Bish Front at a grand total of 5 bases whoopy!!! Over an hour had been committed to the AAA. By 3am the work that had been done was nothing short of incredible by AH standards for the number of players who participated. Im not going to snap a photo on a regular night. If I did that i would be guilty of what some of you accuse me  of :cheers:

And I know i seperate myself from most of you when I share these stories. Thing is after many years in this game I came to realize I dont like most of you. Partly because I just dont like most of you and because the level of suckage is above my tolerance in the tactical.

The night before I had the honor of flying with a dozen rooks on vox. Not one base was taken despite 3 hours of trying. No i wasnt flying with the 49th these were seasoned rooks.

Greater numbers will not work as effectively as 2 or 3 guys when tactical. It only works as a horde. Just look at morning Bish and im not knocking it. Its very effective and there is no stopping it until they stop :salute

Its just that tactical and hording are two different things.
Title: Re: Looking to get 10-15 folks for strategic attacks
Post by: DREDIOCK on June 28, 2015, 09:23:06 PM
Really? Really?


Really
Title: Re: Looking to get 10-15 folks for strategic attacks
Post by: Wizz on June 29, 2015, 12:33:14 AM
Really

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Title: Re: Looking to get 10-15 folks for strategic attacks
Post by: Wizz on June 29, 2015, 12:40:44 AM
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Title: Re: Looking to get 10-15 folks for strategic attacks
Post by: DREDIOCK on June 29, 2015, 12:48:13 AM
For the record. In 13 years here I have yet to see anyone use anything close to resembling tactical intelligence.
This would include anything you have done
Title: Re: Looking to get 10-15 folks for strategic attacks
Post by: Zimme83 on June 29, 2015, 10:00:40 AM
Can still not see that bombing undefended bases on a big map w less than 10 defenders can be concidered impressive.
All plans that are based on the enemy not defending is bad ones, its only about luck if u get a base or not. WF and deack a town is something that anyone can learn how to do in a day and it has been part of the playbook for a long time. Its fun to sneak bases, especially if u have uppers that u can trick an steal the base from under their nose. But it still not anything remarcable.
Title: Re: Looking to get 10-15 folks for strategic attacks
Post by: Wizz on June 29, 2015, 02:44:42 PM
For the record. In 13 years here I have yet to see anyone use anything close to resembling tactical intelligence.
This would include anything you have done
considering I had not developed into the player I am today when i flew with Bish and I refuse to fly Bish anymore Im not surprised. It's hard to see when your on the receiving end. All you see are players trying to take a base :aok
Title: Re: Looking to get 10-15 folks for strategic attacks
Post by: Wizz on June 29, 2015, 02:53:14 PM
Can still not see that bombing undefended bases on a big map w less than 10 defenders can be concidered impressive.
All plans that are based on the enemy not defending is bad ones, its only about luck if u get a base or not. WF and deack a town is something that anyone can learn how to do in a day and it has been part of the playbook for a long time. Its fun to sneak bases, especially if u have uppers that u can trick an steal the base from under their nose. But it still not anything remarcable.
Its not impressive ...

But thats not what is being discussed. I guess if you want to change the argument you can. Your focus on the number of players at the time of that screenshot is exactly where you should focus.  :neener:

I do appreciate your argument. I get what your saying and agree anyone can learn how to Wf/deack a town. I will keep saying this though, anyone can do that but not everyone can do that while under attack and complete the task. Even if someone can if the base is defended you still have to get 10 troops in the map room.


Hundreds of times in the last 2 years I and a few others have accomplished this. It is nothing short of outstanding. There is nothing like doing all the work on town by myself while under attack and scoring those kills. Sometimes I even have had to drop to the deck and clean up air cons or gvs at the town and we still take the base!

Once again ill say this....


In this day and age of AH you will find more success with 2-3 players vs 10-15.
Title: Re: Looking to get 10-15 folks for strategic attacks
Post by: Wizz on June 29, 2015, 03:07:11 PM
and Ill finish with this cause arguing and defending what i do on bbs gets old

I have been so desperate for like minded players to do what I do but they dont exist anymore.

Sure maybe someone gets lucky and pulls it off to the level i speak of every now and then but not on a regular basis.

I can do it because whats most important above all else isnt taking the base its not wasting the time of whoever decided to help me do it. It pushes me to do better when I fail. I have Jarbo to thank for that. He reemed my bellybutton one night on this very subject and it just stuck with me. Im proud of that. Its unselfish and despite my shortcomings as a human being I have earned the respect of a few who have lived it in this game.

I only play for the betterment of my team. Thats why I dont focus on fighter skills. How good does it feel when your country wins a map? Thats always my end goal and when I do my part I am satisfied. Anything less and its not good enough.

Title: Re: Looking to get 10-15 folks for strategic attacks
Post by: Zimme83 on June 29, 2015, 03:53:30 PM
When u do it in Ju-88:s, then i will be impressed. until then... not so.
I dont really see the point of bragging over it anyway, I take bases in the same way every now and then, have even done it all by myself but its really not anything bragging about on the bbs.
Title: Re: Looking to get 10-15 folks for strategic attacks
Post by: FBKampfer on June 29, 2015, 04:01:56 PM
Wizz, you're going to need to learn a very important lesson at some point in your life. That lesson is how to shut up.


You thoroughly hijack about every other thread you post in, trying to flag wave for the 49th. We get it, you've found a squad you like, and think they're the greatest thing since sex.

But it's getting obnoxious, and it's not helping your squadron, its members, or its reputation. In fact, your reputation seems to have plummeted lately, and it's mostly because you guys can't keep your damn mouths shut.

Smack talk on 200 is one thing. Comming onto the BBS, which is pretty damn different from 200, and treating the place like your squadron's fan club is something else entirely.
Title: Re: Looking to get 10-15 folks for strategic attacks
Post by: Wizz on June 29, 2015, 04:14:37 PM
Wizz, you're going to need to learn a very important lesson at some point in your life. That lesson is how to shut up.


You thoroughly hijack about every other thread you post in, trying to flag wave for the 49th. We get it, you've found a squad you like, and think they're the greatest thing since sex.

But it's getting obnoxious, and it's not helping your squadron, its members, or its reputation. In fact, your reputation seems to have plummeted lately, and it's mostly because you guys can't keep your damn mouths shut.

Smack talk on 200 is one thing. Comming onto the BBS, which is pretty damn different from 200, and treating the place like your squadron's fan club is something else entirely.
im not 49th

And am a paying member of this community.

You can demand all you want but you can not censor me.

This reaction is priceless...  :x

Title: Re: Looking to get 10-15 folks for strategic attacks
Post by: Wizz on June 29, 2015, 04:25:47 PM
Wizz, you're going to need to learn a very important lesson at some point in your life. That lesWizz, you're going to need to learn a very important lesson at some point in your life. That lesson is how to shut up.


You thoroughly hijack about every other thread you post in, trying to flag wave for the 49th. We get it, you've found a squad you like, and think they're the greatest thing since sex.

But it's getting obnoxious, and it's not helping your squadron, its members, or its reputation. In fact, your reputation seems to have plummeted lately, and it's mostly because you guys can't keep your damn mouths shut.

Smack talk on 200 is one thing. Comming onto the BBS, which is pretty damn different from 200, and treating the place like your squadron's fan club is something else entirely.
son is how to shut up.


You thoroughly hijack about every other thread you post in, trying to flag wave for the 49th. We get it, you've found a squad you like, and think they're the greatest thing since sex.

But it's getting obnoxious, and it's not helping your squadron, its members, or its reputation. In fact, your reputation seems to have plummeted lately, and it's mostly because you guys can't keep your damn mouths shut.

Smack talk on 200 is one thing. Comming onto the BBS, which is pretty damn different from 200, and treating the place like your squadron's fan club is something else entirely.
Last I checked you are not a mod either lol :rock
Title: Re: Looking to get 10-15 folks for strategic attacks
Post by: BuckShot on June 29, 2015, 04:53:05 PM
im not 49th

And am a paying member of this community.

You can demand all you want but you can not censor me.


BBS members can squelch you, I'm sure many have....
Title: Re: Looking to get 10-15 folks for strategic attacks
Post by: The Fugitive on June 29, 2015, 08:19:35 PM
BBS members can squelch you, I'm sure many have....


...for some time now, and it's much nicer around here.  :D
Title: Re: Looking to get 10-15 folks for strategic attacks
Post by: rebelpride99 on June 29, 2015, 09:08:13 PM
I think the thread has gotten off target :bhead I was just trying to see if there are some peeps looking to get togther on a fairly regular basis and do something different/. If anyone is interested let me know
Title: Re: Looking to get 10-15 folks for strategic attacks
Post by: DREDIOCK on June 29, 2015, 09:08:50 PM
considering I had not developed into the player I am today when i flew with Bish and I refuse to fly Bish anymore Im not surprised. It's hard to see when your on the receiving end. All you see are players trying to take a base :aok

I pay attention to a lot more details then one might think Particularly what the enemy is doing. Ask my squadmates.

If I dont react its simply because I dont care
Title: Re: Looking to get 10-15 folks for strategic attacks
Post by: DREDIOCK on June 29, 2015, 09:18:07 PM
and Ill finish with this cause arguing and defending what i do on bbs gets old

How good does it feel when your country wins a map?

C'mon man. Who you think you're BSing? You bring up what you do just so you CAN argue about it.

Far as map wins are concerned. It depends on what map. If its to get rid of one of the crappy maps then Im just pleased to get off that map. If its a map where people are actually you know..fighting one another. Then I'd rather not win the map. Dont get me wrong. I enjoy a good struggle to take or defend a base. But winning the map is the last thing I typically care about. I used to care. Till I realized the silliness of it all. And running around taking undefended bases is hardly the work of a tactical genius. Especially now with some of the maps that we currently have that are too big for the number of players
Title: Re: Looking to get 10-15 folks for strategic attacks
Post by: Wizz on June 30, 2015, 02:06:55 AM
C'mon man. Who you think you're BSing? You bring up what you do just so you CAN argue about it.

Far as map wins are concerned. It depends on what map. If its to get rid of one of the crappy maps then Im just pleased to get off that map. If its a map where people are actually you know..fighting one another. Then I'd rather not win the map. Dont get me wrong. I enjoy a good struggle to take or defend a base. But winning the map is the last thing I typically care about. I used to care. Till I realized the silliness of it all. And running around taking undefended bases is hardly the work of a tactical genius. Especially now with some of the maps that we currently have that are too big for the number of players

 :neener:
 :ahand

No words needed