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General Forums => Hardware and Software => Topic started by: novice on February 23, 2019, 10:08:22 AM
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Anyone has one or know anything about these. Im looking to buy the left handed version. It looks sweet and my understanding is the base is sold separate and there is a wait involved in getting one.
Any input is appreciated!
https://virpil-controls.eu/vpc-mongoost-50lh-grip.html
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I'm of the other tribe, VKB. It's safe to say that both VKB and Virpil make a very nice, well-built products that are packed with features. My stick is far and away better than the CH stick I'd used for years and will likely be the last stick I'll ever have to buy. I hear lots of good things about the Virpil stuff also.
However, both suffer from the same issues regarding supply. They're small companies serving a niche market. Development of their controllers is nauseatingly slow. Glad there's 3D printing so they can easily test prototypes or it'd be even worse! Once they arrive, they're produced in very small batches and while quite pricey they're all snapped up maybe within hours of being available! Another production run in their very small factories will then take many months, stuff shows in stock, quickly disappears.... Lather, rinse, repeat!
This is so for each of these companies. Ya really have to keep an eye on their stores and subscribe to their newsletters and forums if you're serious about buying otherwise you'll miss them. That said if you're lucky enough to snag the stick you'll absolutely be happy with it. Head and shoulders above anything else that's out there that are generally mass produced.
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Thank you for your response. So seeing that the LH I want is available now I should snatch it up even tho the base is not as of right now? Apparently their stock will be replenished this week according to the website.
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Thank you for your response. So seeing that the LH I want is available now I should snatch it up even tho the base is not as of right now? Apparently their stock will be replenished this week according to the website.
If that is the model you want, and it just happens to be available???
Heck yes buy it.. And consider yourself lucky! :banana:
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HAHA I guess you are right. Reading their website the sticks and bases sell out in minutes. People stay up for release time and place all items in the cart, save their personal info and copy their CC number in to Notepad to streamline ordering process and still a lot of them dont get all the items they order. I had no idea in this day and age we would have to sit and wait in the Virtual Belarus waiting line like litttle crackheads we are.
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Thank you for your response. So seeing that the LH I want is available now I should snatch it up even tho the base is not as of right now? Apparently their stock will be replenished this week according to the website.
I bought my VKB gunfighter base as soon as I could looking forward to buying their MCG-Pro grip that was still under development at the time. (it's nearly identical to the one you're looking at except it's right hand). So I had a base with no grip for a year! That's just how these guys roll! But yeah if the grip you want is in stock I'd grab it before it disappears. The base will be along eventually,
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I have the base and the T50 (right hand version)
I like the set up and it is a good workable stick although the buttons are not as easy to reach as the Warthog.
I do not regret buying the stick. I also got the desk clamp and some stick extenders which means I can configure the set up to my liking.
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I have the base and the T50 (right hand version)
I like the set up and it is a good workable stick although the buttons are not as easy to reach as the Warthog.
I do not regret buying the stick. I also got the desk clamp and some stick extenders which means I can configure the set up to my liking.
They do look like they are all up there. Im hoping with my paws for hands that should not be dealbreaker. Im about to order the stick and stay on the prowl for the base.
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I have the base and the T50 (right hand version)
I like the set up and it is a good workable stick although the buttons are not as easy to reach as the Warthog.
I do not regret buying the stick. I also got the desk clamp and some stick extenders which means I can configure the set up to my liking.
What did you end up mapping to the analogue break lever for AH im wondering.
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I have a Mongoos T-50 and love it. FYI the Mongoos T-50 base is no longer being produced they superseded it with VPC WarBRD base. There does seem to be a very high demand for their product right now and Virpil has been struggling to keep up. The positive side to that is that they have moved production in house in Romania. They are no longer being manufactured in China. They have been keeping to a two week restock schedule but the demand is so great that it seems the bases are sold out quickly. You might wait to get a stick though they just announced a new stick with even more buttons. They haven't said if they are going to produce the new stick in left hand version yet but I would imagine that can't be far off since they already have the left handed molds for that style stick.
If you haven't already check out the forums, https://forum.virpil.com/ I like to look at the Russian forum also (Google translate is a great thing).
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Sik
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What did you end up mapping to the analogue break lever for AH im wondering.
Nothing as yet. I do not fly as much as I used to so only have the basics mapped
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I saw that they put a hat switch instead of the thumb button on the new style Mongoos but there is no LH version. All these greedy space sim people that need two joystics are exacerbating the supply problem. According to the website Feb 27th is the replenishment date fingers crossed.
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What did you end up mapping to the analogue break lever for AH im wondering.
Dive brake. But you could use it toggle things like bay doors or gear.
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I have a couple T50 and a WarBrd from Virpil. Have 2 VKB Gunfighters as well. Very similar, but there are some differences.
First off as already said, the T50 is discontinued now, at least the base is, you have to buy the WarBrd base with the T50 stick now.
If you aren't in Europe, stock is an issue. Virpil does "restocks" for the N.A. market, and it's on the website as to when. Next one is on the 27 at 9AM GMT - you better be waiting at that time on the site, as the stuff sells out VERY fast, as in minutes, or like the last one, ONE minute. My advice is to have an account made up on the site, have the items you want in your wishlist, and to jump on them FAST. Last update I grabbed another base (WrBrd as the T50 bases are done) to go with a 2nd throttle and another couple deskclamps, and did it this way and was successful. Have your credit card numbers memorized too, and punch stuff in as quick as you can. It's literally THAT competitive to get an order through.
I don't have a left hand T50, but I do have their "Space" sim stick which is ambidextrous. That "Delta" stick might be an option for you too, it comes with an analogue ministick, something the T50 stick lacks. Also, there is a new model of the T50 stick coming out with better and more hats, and a different trigger system. T50CM2, Not sure if it's available in left hand or not, but you probably want to check that out as well.
Word of warning, the software doesn't have great documentation, so you have to do a bit of research in various forums, reddit, and on Youtube to get into the more advanced capabilities of the Virpil sticks and throttles.
Personally, I am using the VKB Gunfighter sticks a bit more, as you can use them on desktop and I prefer this to the desk clamp method (you'll need a desk clamp mount for the WarBrd IMO, as it still sits MUCH too high for desktop use, although some don't mind it, I find it to be 2 or 3 inches higher than the VKB, Warthog, CH, etc). I do use the T50/Wrbrd in both Virpil and Monster desk mounts for jet/DCS games while using VR.
A great option too is to use the Warthog metal A10C stick in the WrBrd base - this is probably my favorite combo/set up of all the hotas sticks available right now.
Both VKB and Virpil have been excellent so far as customer service. Both have gotten back to me same day and fixed the few small issues I've had here and there with the software.
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I ike your idea of Warthog stick but I dont belive they are available in LH setup.
The more I read about it im ready to pull the trigger on the one I posted above.
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One correction to Gman's post: The restock is at 6am GMT, if you wait until 9 that will be to late.
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Sik
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Sorry about that - the previous restock was the 23rd at 9am to 12 GMT, they had just changed/pushed back that date to the 27th a few days ago and reset the time to the "usual" time of 6am GMT. I'm glad they changed it back to a set time, instead of a 3 hour window, as sitting there refreshing that screen for 3 hours waiting for inventory to open up would be pretty tedious.
Also, there are TM Warthog left handed sticks around, you just have to look. The guy making them is hard to get a hold of, but I have his contact info if anyone wants it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8YxA2tSLYE
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I pulled the trigger on the Stick now fingers crossed on the base Wednesday!
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I'm going to be ordering again too, the new T50CM2 stick and another Delta stick so I can go HOSAS+Throttle in Star Citizen with identical sticks/bases. Hopefully they have the mounting plates in stock for the WarBrds too.
Good luck Novice - if you don't get one, PM me.
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Thank you brother I will!!
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Also, to give you an idea on shipping/completion time, I ordered a bunch of stuff on the Feb 9th resupply date, the last one they had IIRC, and my package is now in country (Canada) with TNT/Fedex, they called 2 days ago for the duty/tax (on about $550 USD worth of stuff I was charged $44 CAD, about $34 USD by Fedex's broker over the phone). Should have it tomorrow morning by the tracking info. So, right now they are taking about 2 weeks on the dot, which is MUCH better than it was in the past. My packages didn't even get picked up until the 18th from Virpil's warehouse by the shipper...so it's pretty fast now.
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That is not bad wait from something that far away. I have lucked out just last week I got an airbag vest for a motorcycle from Germany and paid not tax on it. We shall see what happens with the stick.
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Boom got one. I emailed asking for them to combine the shippment (since I bought the stick few days ago since I did not want to risk missing out on the left hand stick)and without even prompting they said they will refund me the shipping cost on one. 5 hours later they are out of LH stick and Bases. Their customer service response is prompt as long as you are aware of the time difference. I cant wait to get my grubby hands on it!
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The new Virpil T50CM2 base/stick looks really good, an updated and simpler gimbal, not that anything is wrong with the first T50.
I bought a bunch of MonsterTech mounts for my Virpil, Gunfighter, TM, and CH setups. This is my PC setup for DCS/AH3 and Star Citizen HOSAS+throttle or Hotas if I pull the left stick. I bought extra mounting plates for the Monster mounts for my Gunfighter and Kosomina (sold a couple Gunfighters and just have the Mk2Reb and the newest space stick from VKB left). I've got another PC setup with the VKB Gunfighter/Space stick the same way, with another Virpil T50 throttle, until VKB's throttle comes out. The Virpil setup I'm using here has the Monster keyboard and right hand mouse plate attached to the right stick. The main problem with desk mounts is that the desktop surface and kb/mouse are a far reach, and really tough to find with a VR headset on. This fixes that really well, finding the KB/mouse is a snap now.
Most of my hotas collection that I actually use is in the 2nd pic, minus the Gunfighters which are setup (I'll take pics of them too once I'm done cable managing every setup and can kick the nephew/niece off of them long enough for pics). I still use the X65f sometimes as well, and grabbed Monster plates for that which will fit close enough. Attached some more pics below.
(https://i.imgur.com/slzfvTh.jpg?2)
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The new Virpil T50CM2 base/stick looks really good, an updated and simpler gimbal, not that anything is wrong with the first T50.
I bought a bunch of MonsterTech mounts for my Virpil, Gunfighter, TM, and CH setups. This is my PC setup for DCS/AH3 and Star Citizen HOSAS+throttle or Hotas if I pull the left stick. I bought extra mounting plates for the Monster mounts for my Gunfighter and Kosomina (sold a couple Gunfighters and just have the Mk2Reb and the newest space stick from VKB left). I've got another PC setup with the VKB Gunfighter/Space stick the same way, with another Virpil T50 throttle, until VKB's throttle comes out. The Virpil setup I'm using here has the Monster keyboard and right hand mouse plate attached to the right stick. The main problem with desk mounts is that the desktop surface and kb/mouse are a far reach, and really tough to find with a VR headset on. This fixes that really well, finding the KB/mouse is a snap now.
Most of my hotas collection that I actually use is in the 2nd pic, minus the Gunfighters which are setup (I'll take pics of them too once I'm done cable managing every setup and can kick the nephew/niece off of them long enough for pics). I still use the X65f sometimes as well, and grabbed Monster plates for that which will fit close enough. Attached some more pics below.
(https://i.imgur.com/slzfvTh.jpg?2)
So which stick do you like for AH3? Also WarThunder, the realistic and full on sim modes though lol, no arcade BS for me lol :rofl :cheers: :salute
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If anyone orders from Virpil, and would like to do me a favor. I need a T-50 throttle dust cover. I'll of course pay for the dust cover and shipping from you to me as well as kick some in on the shipping from Virpil. PM me if you think you might.
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Sik
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So which stick do you like for AH3? Also WarThunder, the realistic and full on sim modes though lol, no arcade BS for me lol :rofl :cheers: :salute
I prefer a very, very light stick (as in CH Figher/Combat stick sort of light) for AH, the stick gets moved around an awful lot in WW2 pvp games, and I find I just prefer it this way after 20+ years of doing so. It's a bit more difficult to get the Virpil sticks that light (it can be done with aftermarket springs and messing around with the cams, using the Cosmo/space cams and a very light spring will do it), but the VKB Gunfighter has springs in the box that allow you to make it even lighter than the CH (I use the 2nd lightest springs myself and it's pretty much a CH analogue so far as the force needed to move the stick).
Using a TM Warthog or preferably Cougar stick (Cougar has the pinky switch in a better spot for larger hands, big time), on top of a Virpil Warbrd base, even with stock springs, makes a pretty light motion as well.
So I either use the VKB Gunfighter, or a Virpil Warbrd base with the Cougar stick handle and an aftermarket spring for AH3, at least I did when I was still flying AH3, and will again when I start playing this game again. Some prefer a stiffer stick though, and the T50 or stock Warbrd would be perfect for this game as well, all of these newer sticks from former Soviet republics are very, very accurate.
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I ordered a warthog... has not arrived yet but I am looking forward to it...