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Title: ME-262 pilots
Post by: warphoenix on January 18, 2010, 09:36:24 PM
even thoagh I prefer to fly allied aircraft I have a deep respect for lufftwaffe pilots espeicial ME-262 pilots here you can talk about your sorties if you want and talk about others too or just talk about random stuff but please stay on topic
Title: Re: ME-262 pilots
Post by: Krusty on January 18, 2010, 09:50:14 PM
If you have a specific question, that's one thing, but you're just trolling for post counts now.

"Talk about random stuff but stay on topic" <-- ???
Title: Re: ME-262 pilots
Post by: warphoenix on January 18, 2010, 10:03:23 PM
If you have a specific question, that's one thing, but you're just trolling for post counts now.

"Talk about random stuff but stay on topic" <-- ???
woops! talk about random stuff about the ME-262 and tactics
Title: Re: ME-262 pilots
Post by: MachFly on January 18, 2010, 10:08:37 PM
"Talk about random stuff but stay on topic"

 :rofl (for real)
Title: Re: ME-262 pilots
Post by: warphoenix on January 19, 2010, 08:38:18 AM
:rofl (for real)
look at above
Title: Re: ME-262 pilots
Post by: waystin2 on January 19, 2010, 09:11:40 AM
Talk amongst yourselves...
(http://oybay.files.wordpress.com/2006/07/snl101myersrichman010704.jpg)
Title: Re: ME-262 pilots
Post by: jdbecks on January 19, 2010, 11:42:19 AM
when hunting buffs, come in fast from a high 3 - 9 line, or attack them head on and coming down at an angle.  Watch your speed when making slashing attacks, stay fast when enemy fighters are around.

I mostly use my 262 to go looking for buffs
Title: Re: ME-262 pilots
Post by: Bruv119 on January 19, 2010, 12:58:31 PM
one time in a 262  i killed all 3 buffs in one pass,  

in tour 97  I did 310 kills for 3 deaths in a 262.     2 of those deaths were my own stupid fault, the one death to enemy hands was seano, he was most likely 25k, doing 600mph in a pony, when i didn't see him   :D

I like to hunt NOE and fly in and around busy enemy bases,  if there is a sniff of bombers about i'm onto them.  The closure rate doing 500 + on the deck means you can usually catch people on climbout or afk.

In short if you have 100% SA you are untouchable.  You can be aggressive but the key strength is raw speed, you decide when you want to engage and disengage.

262 vs 262 fights are FUN!   :cool:
Title: Re: ME-262 pilots
Post by: Reaper90 on January 19, 2010, 02:03:10 PM
even thoagh I prefer to fly allied aircraft I have a deep respect for lufftwaffe pilots espeicial ME-262 pilots here you can talk about your sorties if you want and talk about others too or just talk about random stuff but please stay on topic

Stealth? Is that you?
Title: Re: ME-262 pilots
Post by: Messiah on January 19, 2010, 05:28:10 PM
Reg: Dec 2009

Posts: 308
Title: Re: ME-262 pilots
Post by: Spikes on January 19, 2010, 07:25:29 PM
one time in a 262  i killed all 3 buffs in one pass, 

in tour 97  I did 310 kills for 3 deaths in a 262.     2 of those deaths were my own stupid fault, the one death to enemy hands was seano, he was most likely 25k, doing 600mph in a pony, when i didn't see him   :D

I like to hunt NOE and fly in and around busy enemy bases,  if there is a sniff of bombers about i'm onto them.  The closure rate doing 500 + on the deck means you can usually catch people on climbout or afk.

In short if you have 100% SA you are untouchable.  You can be aggressive but the key strength is raw speed, you decide when you want to engage and disengage.

262 vs 262 fights are FUN!   :cool:
Whacked Seano's 262 in an LA (not taking any credit). They had our base capped so I upped from the next closest...flew over the town and saw a 262 go vert....
Title: Re: ME-262 pilots
Post by: EskimoJoe on January 19, 2010, 08:05:10 PM
Whacked Seano's 262 in an LA (not taking any credit). They had our base capped so I upped from the next closest...flew over the town and saw a 262 go vert....

And then shouted, "YES! YES! OH YES!"
Title: Re: ME-262 pilots
Post by: Cthulhu on January 19, 2010, 09:32:02 PM
Stealth? Is that you?
Or perhaps the ghost of glock89?  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: ME-262 pilots
Post by: Saurdaukar on January 20, 2010, 08:48:45 AM
TRY TO STAY ON TOPIC BUT DONT!!!

GEEEEZ CANT YOU GUYS FOLLOW DERECTIENZ!?!?!
Title: Re: ME-262 pilots
Post by: StokesAk on January 20, 2010, 11:32:56 AM
I only fly the 262 on the deck, looking for unweary pilots gone to the kitchen to get a snack.
Title: Re: ME-262 pilots
Post by: Plazus on January 20, 2010, 12:00:00 PM
I am a horrible 262 pilot. I have better luck shooting them down.

(http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u138/exodus2243/82nd41.jpg)

(http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u138/exodus2243/82nd40.jpg)

(http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u138/exodus2243/82nd55.jpg)

(http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u138/exodus2243/82nd54.jpg)
Title: Re: ME-262 pilots
Post by: Spikes on January 20, 2010, 06:19:29 PM
And then shouted, "YES! YES! OH YES!"
Not really...maybe if I did it in a plane above 30ENY I woulda been happy...but otherwise...I felt like a dweeb for flying a La. :)
Title: Re: ME-262 pilots
Post by: Spikes on January 20, 2010, 06:20:48 PM
I am a horrible 262 pilot. I have better luck shooting them down.

(http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u138/exodus2243/82nd41.jpg)

(http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u138/exodus2243/82nd40.jpg)

(http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u138/exodus2243/82nd55.jpg)

(http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u138/exodus2243/82nd54.jpg)
Me too :)
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s162/spikesx/Aces%20High%20II/ddddddd.png)
Title: Re: ME-262 pilots
Post by: jolly22 on January 20, 2010, 08:18:19 PM
sweet pics!!
Title: Re: ME-262 pilots
Post by: warphoenix on January 20, 2010, 10:50:31 PM
I am a horrible 262 pilot. I have better luck shooting them down.

(http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u138/exodus2243/82nd41.jpg)

(http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u138/exodus2243/82nd40.jpg)

(http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u138/exodus2243/82nd55.jpg)

(http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u138/exodus2243/82nd54.jpg)
#3 pic is crazy! :rolleyes:
Title: Re: ME-262 pilots
Post by: MiloMorai on January 20, 2010, 11:18:43 PM
Are those tracer trails from the 262 or the 234?
Title: Re: ME-262 pilots
Post by: Krusty on January 20, 2010, 11:23:28 PM
He says he likes shooting them down, and they're on the 262, so I assume they're from his tail guns.
Title: Re: ME-262 pilots
Post by: Pawz on January 21, 2010, 09:08:14 AM
Reg: Dec 2009

Posts: 308
:rofl Almost has as many as me and I've been here for 7 years.
Title: Re: ME-262 pilots
Post by: 5PointOh on January 21, 2010, 09:31:14 AM
I am a horrible 262 pilot. I have better luck shooting them down.
Yep same...

(http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=204187.0;attach=9257;image)

(http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=204187.0;attach=9259;image)
Title: Re: ME-262 pilots
Post by: warphoenix on January 21, 2010, 01:26:40 PM
insane pics guys! maybe I should've put this in the Films and Screenshots section?
Title: Re: ME-262 pilots
Post by: Spikes on January 21, 2010, 06:13:55 PM
Are those tracer trails from the 262 or the 234?
From my 234.
Title: Re: ME-262 pilots
Post by: Tupac on January 21, 2010, 08:34:18 PM
even thoagh I prefer to fly allied aircraft I have a deep respect for lufftwaffe pilots espeicial ME-262 pilots here you can talk about your sorties if you want and talk about others too or just talk about random stuff but please stay on topic

"talk about random stuff but stay on topic"
"random stuff on topic"
"random stuff"
Title: Re: ME-262 pilots
Post by: Enker on January 22, 2010, 06:55:19 PM
The 262 is a difficult plane to fly against anyone who has a clue. They will always call out, "Hey, the 262 is coming down." and then break hard so you can't follow. That's why you need a squaddie to play bait. C-hogs work very well for this. The C-Hog, when flown well, will slow them down enough that they cant get out of your way quickly enough when you come zooming in from out of icon range. If they get out of the way, either the C-hog or your other buddy in another 262 will get them. Drazz and Trol!  :rock
Title: Re: ME-262 pilots
Post by: Reaper90 on January 23, 2010, 09:47:10 AM
The 262 is a difficult plane to fly against anyone who has a clue.

Unless you happen to be Grizz, who I am fairly confident has a Jedi mind trick projector beam on the nose of his 262, that commands people to willingly fly in front of his cannons....  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: ME-262 pilots
Post by: JunkyII on January 23, 2010, 09:55:58 AM
Flying a 262 on the deck does hide you a bit but isnt a good idea especially if you know there is alot of high cons around. I grab to about 6k then get to about 450 before heading into a fight. I try to cut corners on planes that I see split Sing or flat turning which really helps,especially when my tatoring is on. The most I have eer done in a 262 was 9.....tators were flying like M2s :D
Title: Re: ME-262 pilots
Post by: MiloMorai on January 23, 2010, 10:16:40 AM
From my 234.

A fix is needed than as the cannons in the 234 were only capable of firing to the dead 6. Besides, why is there cannons as the canons were only fitted to test a/c, so should be deleted.
Title: Re: ME-262 pilots
Post by: TwinTail on January 23, 2010, 12:04:21 PM
He wa shooting straight back, its called using your rudder fyi
Title: Re: ME-262 pilots
Post by: Enker on January 23, 2010, 05:34:25 PM
He wa shooting straight back, its called using your rudder fyi
Word. So, milo, how many lessons can I put you down for at Spikes' Top Gun Arado Academy?
Title: Re: ME-262 pilots
Post by: Spikes on January 23, 2010, 06:57:30 PM
A fix is needed than as the cannons in the 234 were only capable of firing to the dead 6. Besides, why is there cannons as the canons were only fitted to test a/c, so should be deleted.
No they weren't. Guess we should take out the P51 too or something in the MA since they didn't shoot at eachother in real war.

I flipped my rudder to the left while firing...if you don't believe I'll be glad to show you. :)
Title: Re: ME-262 pilots
Post by: Estes on January 23, 2010, 07:05:12 PM
Jet bomber dweeb. :) I fly the 262 like a man. Ram the crap outta people.
Title: Re: ME-262 pilots
Post by: warphoenix on January 23, 2010, 08:48:23 PM
Jet bomber dweeb. :) I fly the 262 like a man. Ram the crap outta people.
did you ram one of my friends in the MALB on 11/29/2009 right in front of a B24? because that might have been me in the B24
Title: Re: ME-262 pilots
Post by: Estes on January 23, 2010, 09:19:22 PM
Ill hafta consult with my little black book, simply called "Kjetils Rams" but its a definite possibility.
Title: Re: ME-262 pilots
Post by: bravoa8 on January 24, 2010, 01:36:11 AM
TRY TO STAY ON TOPIC BUT DONT!!!

GEEEEZ CANT YOU GUYS FOLLOW DERECTIENZ!?!?!
.........No :lol
Title: Re: ME-262 pilots
Post by: MiloMorai on January 24, 2010, 09:05:16 AM
Word. So, milo, how many lessons can I put you down for at Spikes' Top Gun Arado Academy?

Not from you, be sure. :) If rudder was used, then the fuselage would turn and the guns would STILL be firing dead astern. :devil
Title: Re: ME-262 pilots
Post by: MiloMorai on January 24, 2010, 09:10:14 AM
No they weren't. Guess we should take out the P51 too or something in the MA since they didn't shoot at eachother in real war.

I flipped my rudder to the left while firing...if you don't believe I'll be glad to show you. :)

If you put in left rudder, the a/c would have turned left pointing the tail to the right. :O Hard to hit an a/c that is at the 7 o'clock position. :x
Title: Re: ME-262 pilots
Post by: Spikes on January 24, 2010, 11:56:01 AM
By ruddering left I meant swinging the plane left while looking backwards, which is normally the way im looking anyway. So technically you are turning right.
Title: Re: ME-262 pilots
Post by: Nemisis on January 24, 2010, 12:59:45 PM
First time I upped a 262 and got off the gound with it, I got shot down by an arado. I was dumb and came it dead 6 on it. That was really embarassing when people found out. Squadies started blabbing.
Title: Re: ME-262 pilots
Post by: bj229r on January 24, 2010, 03:55:25 PM
I only fly the 262 on the deck, looking for unweary pilots gone to the kitchen to get a snack.
:aok A rare display of honesty among 262 sticks!
Title: Re: ME-262 pilots
Post by: Brooke on February 03, 2010, 02:38:55 AM
For the Me 262 experten, there is the upcoming scenario "The Final Battle".  You can come teach late-war allied planes a lesson -- if you've got the teaching ability. :)

http://ahevents.org/pacific-theatre/current-or-next-scenario.html
Title: Re: ME-262 pilots
Post by: PanosGR on February 03, 2010, 05:03:56 AM
only thing that bothers me in AH 262 is the total carefree engine management. You can increase or reduce your throttle practically numerous times in a sec and your engine keep working like nothing happent. In RL that was not the case. The engine management required almost all off the pilot dedication plus he had to be real gentle when he touched the throttle otherwise the engine would suffer by overheats or even totally failure. I'm afraid that 262 engine management in AH is not realistic.
Title: Re: ME-262 pilots
Post by: Delirium on February 03, 2010, 05:31:43 AM
If you want realism, this isn't the place.
Title: Re: ME-262 pilots
Post by: PanosGR on February 03, 2010, 06:07:20 AM
you forgot to say ...or the time. Seriously now I'm not asking for realism, as in a sense of reality. I'm asking for near-realistic as possible. Don't think its to hard to attain a certain level of near-realistic sim configuration when it it comes to a software modification. 
Title: Re: ME-262 pilots
Post by: jdbecks on February 03, 2010, 06:20:18 AM
you forgot to say ...or the time. Seriously now I'm not asking for realism, as in a sense of reality. I'm asking for near-realistic as possible. Don't think its to hard to attain a certain level of near-realistic sim configuration when it it comes to a software modification. 

the problem, having the so called complex engine management is not fun..just like guns jamming and having to press "J" to clear them is just annoying. The you have to decide where to draw the line.

The 262 is my fav bird in the game, I love flying it.

on a seperate note, when we fly some 262 sorties I can only imagine how hard it must of the been for the pilots not to loose each other..must have took alot of skill.
Title: Re: ME-262 pilots
Post by: EskimoJoe on February 03, 2010, 06:18:09 PM
I'm afraid that 262 engine management in AH is not realistic.

No, but it is the balance between total realism and fun. As noted, there is a line that has to be drawn. If you want super realism, then I suggest going to the nearest military flight simulator station and asking them if you could have a ride.
Title: Re: ME-262 pilots
Post by: PanosGR on February 04, 2010, 04:06:47 AM
thnks for the advice but i have already done this with the sim of T-6A Texan II, T-2 Buckeye, F-16 Block 30 and Mirage 2000-5Mk2, hey i have even try the EF-2000 sim, but that has nothing to do with what we are talking about here
Title: Re: ME-262 pilots
Post by: BnZs on February 04, 2010, 06:07:39 AM
only thing that bothers me in AH 262 is the total carefree engine management. You can increase or reduce your throttle practically numerous times in a sec and your engine keep working like nothing happent. In RL that was not the case. The engine management required almost all off the pilot dedication plus he had to be real gentle when he touched the throttle otherwise the engine would suffer by overheats or even totally failure. I'm afraid that 262 engine management in AH is not realistic.

There is a ~12 second delay from moving the joystick throttle to wide open/idle to when N1 reaches maximum from minimum and vis versa. Simulating the pilot restriction that the throttle had to be opened/closed slowly?

Title: Re: ME-262 pilots
Post by: PanosGR on February 04, 2010, 06:11:13 AM
yes i have notice that BnZs, maybe you have a point here but still i think there is enough room for improvement
Title: Re: ME-262 pilots
Post by: groundfeeder on February 04, 2010, 08:59:18 AM
when hunting buffs, come in fast from a high 3 - 9 line, or attack them head on and coming down at an angle.  Watch your speed when making slashing attacks, stay fast when enemy fighters are around.

I mostly use my 262 to go looking for buffs

I mostly use buffs for shooting down 262's got more 262 kills in buffs than i do in fighters! :airplane: