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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Udie on May 23, 2002, 03:41:05 PM
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http://www.clearguidance.com/
This disgusting thing is located in the USA too :mad:
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Here's another kick bellybutton site for Kids.
Ruining the Next Generation (http://www.kukluxklan.org/just_for_kids.htm)
All shapes and sizes :(
-Sikboy
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I'm for having the FBI/INS track these goatherds down and ship 'em all out on the first available banana boat(preferably one that leaks)back to the sandpiles they belong in................
Cabby
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What exactly is wrong with that UBB Udie?:confused:
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Originally posted by RightF00T
What exactly is wrong with that UBB Udie?:confused:
uhhhh did you read any of it?
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Which goatherds Cabby?
Think these guys are much worse than the site Udie posted.
Six men who had once been Confederate soldiers decided to start a club. It would be a secret club, with secret code words, and neat costumes. The club was around for several months and they would meet in different places. It was very dangerous though. Bands of violent negroes traveled around at night terrorizing families.
Amazing :rolleyes:
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hate and ignorance comes in all shapes, sizes and forms
it's up to us as parents to teach and inform our children to differentiate between what is trash and what is the truth
what's scary is when some parents view the trash on the sites above as the truth and thus pass along the ignorance to another generation :(
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Eagler is starting to sound like a stinkin' Lib:)
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Udie I hope the FBI keeps tabs on that BBS. Just another example of people saying toejam on the internet that they could never get away with in real life. Some of the stuff on that board... I'm not a violent person... But if they said that in my presence... How long would I be in jail?
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Originally posted by funkedup
Udie I hope the FBI keeps tabs on that BBS. Just another example of people saying toejam on the internet that they could never get away with in real life. Some of the stuff on that board... I'm not a violent person... But if they said that in my presence... How long would I be in jail?
Yeah I had to stop reading I was having murderous thoughts, literaly. Diferent opinion is one thing but the people on that sight are our enemies and they should be delt with accordingly.....
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NM not worth it. Just funny to see people try to defend the undefendable. Or at least deflect blame from them.
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PS If you look around on that muslim youth board it's not all that different from here. There are some people saying horrible things, and there are some people using the board for constructive purposes, just like here. Maybe the bad stuff over there is worse and the ratio of good/bad is not as good, but just like in AH you can't judge the whole community by the worst posts.
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Originally posted by Sikboy
Here's another kick bellybutton site for Kids.
Ruining the Next Generation (http://www.kukluxklan.org/just_for_kids.htm)
All shapes and sizes :(
-Sikboy
Is there any reason why the background musik is the 1812-ouverture of Tschaikovski ?
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build mass gassing facilities and creamatoriums cabby?
Your sick, get some help.
Originally posted by Cabby44
I'm for having the FBI/INS track these goatherds down and ship 'em all out on the first available banana boat(preferably one that leaks)back to the sandpiles they belong in................
Cabby
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I hope the FBI is watching THIS bbs.
I mean people are talking about having a revolution on it.
"Wasn't it Thomas Jefferson who said "the tree of liberty must be fed with the blood of patriots and tyrants from time to time"? Is it getting time for a revolution here? Since 9/11 all they seem to have done is throw money at problems and chip away at our liberties."
heheh
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"build mass gassing facilities and creamatoriums cabby?"
That's crematorium to you, weazel-boy. Creamed goatherd doesn't sound too appetizing. Did you READ that goatherd BBS or you just jerking your Liberal-knee again????
BTW, i didn't SAY kill the goatherds, i said deport them. Once they are back in their sandboxes, if we end up cremating them it's because they happened to be in the crosshairs of an F-15 Weapons Officer, capiche weazel-boy??
Cabby
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I imagine that some people posting on that site are armerican citizens, should they be deported as well?
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Originally posted by Cabby44
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capiche ??
Cabby
a-HA!! I was wondering what your agenda was, and you slipped up and spoke Yiddish! Are you Ariel Sharon??????
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Did anyone see our very own Mjolnir holding a frank discussion on the Taliban on that board. WTG sir.
Extremists are extremists. All are sad pathetic excuses for human beings. Not everyone posting on that board was an extremist. Free speech Capiche Cabby?
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heres some hown grown for udie
Resistance (http://www.resistance.com/ubbcgi/ultimatebb.cgi)
Not everyone ones loves america, even some americans.
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I imagine that some people posting on that site are [sic] armerican citizens, should they be deported as well?
No, but any US citizen who favors the mortal enemies of the USA deserves a thorough bellybutton kicking. No FBI involvement required.
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Here is the web site to submit tips to the FBI about terrorism:
Public Tips (http://www.ifccfbi.gov/complaint/terrorist.asp)
I know i am sending that site in.
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....this is sad,
Anyone know reporting procedure for FBI ;) :p
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You know....one of the rights guaranteed by the constitution? Ohhh....thats right, you don't believe in it do you.
Better men than you died for that right.
Though I don't agree with or support those fanatics they have the right to express their opinion, the same as right wing looneys like you.
Originally posted by Cabby44
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"build mass gassing facilities and creamatoriums cabby?"
That's crematorium to you, weazel-boy. Creamed goatherd doesn't sound too appetizing. Did you READ that goatherd BBS or you just jerking your Liberal-knee again????
BTW, i didn't SAY kill the goatherds, i said deport them. Once they are back in their sandboxes, if we end up cremating them it's because they happened to be in the crosshairs of an F-15 Weapons Officer, capiche weazel-boy??
Cabby
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I dont know guys, I'm quite enjoying the Ethnic Cleansing BBS. Some of the threads there are so idiotic that they are only pure comedy :)
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Anyone who advocates, assists, encourages, harbors, or in any other way promotes the killing of US Military personnel or US civilians, should be imprisoned and/or deported. Citizen or not. And if said traitors/aliens accomplish the killing of US Military personnel and/or US citizens, they should be tried, and if found guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, excecuted at the soonest possible date. Clear enough for you hand-wringing Leftie comrades out there???
As for using the term "capiche" identifying me as a "Jew", well what's it to you if i am or if i'm not, Fairywolf or whatever the hell your name is???
I know what YOU are, a flaming wacko Liberal-Leftie without the common sense God gave a frying pan...........
Cabby
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Cabby is in DA HOUSE!
Hiyas cabby :)
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....this is sad,
"Anyone know reporting procedure for FBI "
I remember the one for the KGB...... Wakeing up in the morning.
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The U.S Constitution is not a Suicide Pact. It wasn’t written to hold to your chest as you jumped from the WTC with your skin on fire or to insure that no illegal alien has his feelings hurt after trying to kill U.S. citizens.
It is a ‘living’ document that is designed to change with the times. If now is the ‘time’ then let’s have a Constitutional Convention and put all of the Anti-Terror legislation up for a vote?
I don’t think there’s any doubt how that would turn out.
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Poorly paraphrased from a Dennis Miller bit:
Ideas are like the kids on a playground. If you let them all play the weak ones will eventually be obvious to everyone. The strong ones will be at the top of the monkey bars, or kicking the toejam out of the weak ones.
Point is, if you don't let them all play we will never know who is the wimp.
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If anyone should be deported or imprisoned its filth like you who don't support the laws that make this country unique among nations.
Your political philosiphy is more in line with the talibans than the the US constitution.
Elfenwolf displays more common sense in his trolls than you do in seriousness, seek help looney tune.
Originally posted by Cabby44
Anyone who advocates, assists, encourages, harbors, or in any other way promotes the killing of US Military personnel or US civilians, should be imprisoned and/or deported. Citizen or not. And if said traitors/aliens accomplish the killing of US Military personnel and/or US citizens, they should be tried, and if found guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, excecuted at the soonest possible date. Clear enough for you hand-wringing Leftie comrades out there???
As for using the term "capiche" identifying me as a "Jew", well what's it to you if i am or if i'm not, Fairywolf or whatever the hell your name is???
I know what YOU are, a flaming wacko Liberal-Leftie without the common sense God gave a frying pan...........
Cabby
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Go read this, weazel-puke:
http://www.clearguidance.com/showthread.php?threadid=4787
Be sure and pay special attention to the "cute" little animations, such as the smiley-face machine-gunning US Marines. And make excuses for the goatherds and whine about "free speech" as if you actually have the intelligence of a box-of-rocks.
In the meantime, weazel-the-war-hero-wanna-see-my-pretty-ribbons-weazel, i'm gonna "help" myself by chalking-up another one on my "Why Liberals Suck" list...........
Cabby
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Yep I hope that the guy who said "I see a Marine" in that thread will meet some Marines soon...
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And that sums up 99% of your postings, I see no difference between you and the bigoted fanatics on that UBB.
Seek help looney bin.
Originally posted by Cabby44
Go read this, weazel-puke:
http://www.clearguidance.com/showthread.php?threadid=4787
Be sure and pay special attention to the "cute" little animations, such as the smiley-face machine-gunning US Marines. And make excuses for the goatherds and whine about "free speech" as if you actually have the intelligence of a box-of-rocks.
In the meantime, weazel-the-war-hero-wanna-see-my-pretty-ribbons-weazel, i'm gonna "help" myself by chalking-up another one on my "Why Liberals Suck" list...........
Cabby
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Originally posted by Cabby44
As for using the term "capiche" identifying me as a "Jew", well what's it to you if i am or if i'm not, Fairywolf or whatever the hell your name is???
I know what YOU are, a flaming wacko Liberal-Leftie without the common sense God gave a frying pan...........
Cabby
Uh...Cabby, would that be an electric frying pan with temperature controls or would that be just a plain old cast iron skillet? Because electric frying pans are pretty smart, but if you're saying I'm as dumb as a plain old cast iron one then I think you're trying to insult me. Oh...and the name is ELFENwolf, ya schmuck.
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"Point is, if you don't let them all play we will never know who is the wimp. "
Hate to say this, tah gut. But we all know who the wimp is.
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Oh man...I think I just discovered a new level of hatred.
And all you "oh, but we must protect their right to free speech"-morons should take a field trip to Pakistan or something. You might learn a thing or two about the enemy.
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Actually, I think I'm gonna start posting on that board. They'll probably love my views on the Israel-Palestine conflict
muahahahaha
Now all I need to do is come up with a good board name. "Crusader" sounds good.
[edit] Hmm..Crusader was taken, CrusaderJustice it is..
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Let us know your results.
They will probably view you, as we would view some pro taliban from their board coming here and, well, you know... causing quite a flame war for my amusement
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This is awfull
In the Name of Allah The Beneficent The Merciful
Did you know this brother of the Muslims?
Some brothers live a single, short life, but yet do the work of a thousand, long-lived ones.
And when we loose a brother who we loved for the sake of Allah, a tear does manage to slip down the cheek.
May Allah accept from him, and make us join him, with the Anbiyaa / Prophets, the Shuhadaa / Martyrs, and the Siddiqeen / the truthful, in the highest of the levels of Paradise. Please accept this dua, Yaa Rabb / O LORD. Ameen.
Furthermore, where expertise is concerned, apparently there are hundreds of little Khattaabs, some better trained, busy setting traps for those Kuffaar soldiers who have chosen to invade Muslim populated lands...
They murdered 'Umar, may Allah be pleased with him, and thought that would stop Islaam from spreading. But it continued to spread in Leaps and Bounds.
I`m speachless.......this is pure evil
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Wtg Elfenwolf yet another gem :)
Cabby
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Man, I'm in some kind of queue. Apparently the moderators have to accept you somehow before you are allowed to post.
I guess I'll have to wait a while before bringing light to the heathens.
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Is anyone really reporting this to the FBI?
I`m going to tomorrow..
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Weazel, Free speach isnt guranteed.
You can't yell "Fire" in a crowded movie theater, and you cant Praise the Taliban at a time when they killed 3000 Americans.
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You can't yell "Fire" in a crowded movie theater, and you cant Praise the Taliban at a time when they killed 3000 Americans.
I'm pretty sure Americans can praise the Taliban. Why they'd want to is another matter.
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Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
What part of that do you not understand?
Originally posted by Heinkel
Weazel, Free speach isnt guranteed.
You can't yell "Fire" in a crowded movie theater, and you cant Praise the Taliban at a time when they killed 3000 Americans.
"And all you "oh, but we must protect their right to free speech"-morons should take a field trip to Pakistan or something. You might learn a thing or two about the enemy"
I don't live in pakistan......or that little pissant country you reside in either, you should stick to trying to dazzle us with that pathetic legal mumbo jumbo your so fond of rather than showing your ignorance of the US bill of rights.
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Originally posted by weazel
"And all you "oh, but we must protect their right to free speech"-morons should take a field trip to Pakistan or something. You might learn a thing or two about the enemy"
I don't live in pakistan......or that little pissant country you reside in either, you should stick to trying to dazzle us with that pathetic legal mumbo jumbo your so fond of rather than showing your ignorance of the US bill of rights. [/B]
A bit edgy are we?
Anyway, you keep painting yourself into a corner when you are trying to defend the indefensible. I suspect that's where your frustration comes from. Relax, get a beer, watch a sunset or something.
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Anyway, you keep painting yourself into a corner when you are trying to defend the indefensible
I see nothing indefensible in my stance regarding the US constitution, it's black and white.
Pathetic legal mumbo jumbo is whats indefensible..., as well as the tool of cowards.
Your type can talk themselves into anything.
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Originally posted by weazel
I see nothing indefensible in my stance regarding the US constitution, it's black and white.
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LOL!!
You know, if that was even remotely true you'd have alot of lawyers and judges without a job in the US. Instead you have the highest nr of lawyers per capita in the world. Could that be an indication that US law is not as uncomplicated as you might think?
Pathetic legal mumbo jumbo is whats indefensible..., as well as the tool of cowards.
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So the constitution is black and white, but defending the consitution (a law) is not legal mumbo jumbo? And if the law is the tool of cowards, then what are you advocating?
Your type can talk themselves into anything.
I know :) Its great when picking up girls.
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I would like to suggest that free speech in their home countries is not one of the big reasons that our enemies have developed this fanaticism. In fact, I would like to suggest that a tightly controlled press within the Arab world has a lot more to do with it. There is no opposition viewpoint in most Arab nations. What little there is is fairly recent in its inception, and comes from places like Qatar, which are not considered by most to be volotile regimes.
Being able to voice opposition to the government line is exaclty why we have free speech in the constitution (as per my limited Constitutional Law experience anyhow). This UBB is not yelling fire in a crowded theater, it is a deluded people spewing retorical bravado on the internet. I for one would much rather have them here in the open, than having secret meetings in some guys basement.
Hortland, I have a deep respect for you, however I'm affraid that we will have to agree to dissagree on this topic.
-Sikboy
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Originally posted by weazel
Anyway, you keep painting yourself into a corner when you are trying to defend the indefensible
I see nothing indefensible in my stance regarding the US constitution, it's black and white.
Pathetic legal mumbo jumbo is whats indefensible..., as well as the tool of cowards.
Your type can talk themselves into anything.
An Act in Addition to the Act, Entitled "An Act for the Punishment of Certain Crimes Against the United States."
SECTION 1. Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America, in Congress assembled, That if any persons shall unlawfully combine or conspire together, with intent to oppose any measure or measures of the government of the United States, which are or shall be directed by proper authority, or to impede the operation of any law of the United States, or to intimidate or prevent any person holding a place or office in or under the government of the United States, from undertaking, performing or executing his trust or duty, and if any person or persons, with intent as aforesaid, shall counsel, advise or attempt to procure any insurrection, riot, unlawful assembly, or combination, whether such conspiracy, threatening, counsel, advice, or attempt shall have the proposed effect or not, he or they shall be deemed guilty of a high misdemeanor, and on conviction, before any court of the United States having jurisdiction thereof, shall be punished by a fine not exceeding five thousand dollars, and by imprisonment during a term not less than six months nor exceeding five years; and further, at the discretion of the court may be ho]den to find sureties for his good behaviour in such sum, and for such time, as the said court may direct.
SEC. 2. And be it farther enacted, That if any person shall write, print, utter or publish, or shall cause or procure to be written, printed, uttered or published, or shall knowingly and willingly assist or aid in writing, printing, uttering or publishing any false, scandalous and malicious writing or writings against the government of the United States, or either house of the Congress of the United States, or the President of the United States, with intent to defame the said government, or either house of the said Congress, or the said President, or to bring them, or either of them, into contempt or disrepute; or to excite against them, or either or any of them, the hatred of the good people of the United States, or to stir up sedition within the United States, or to excite any unlawful combinations therein, for opposing or resisting any law of the United States, or any act of the President of the United States, done in pursuance of any such law, or of the powers in him vested by the constitution of the United States, or to resist, oppose, or defeat any such law or act, or to aid, encourage or abet any hostile designs of any foreign nation against United States, their people or government, then such person, being thereof convicted before any court of the United States having jurisdiction thereof, shall be punished by a fine not exceeding two thousand dollars, and by imprisonment not exceeding two years.
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Sikboy, I guess we will have to agree to disagree. However, let me try to explain my point of view before I drop the subject.
Free speech is one of the cornerstones of democracy. If you dont have free speech, you cannot have a democracy, it is as simple as that. It is one of the most fundamental human rights, and it should be safeguarded viligantly.
Somewhere there is a line though, somewhere free speech stops. In most countries this line is pretty far away, i e you can say pretty damn much before you hit that line. I dont know how the situatiuon is in the US because I know very little about US constitutional law. But I would imagine that you too have a line somewhere where free speech stops and instead it turns into treason, foul slander or other criminal acts. My impression is that you also have some very complex issues with various minority's, for example, is it legal to say the N-word (refering to an ethnical group with darger skin complexion than Caucasians) in public? But as I said, this line is very far away, and you are allowed to say pretty damn much, which is good.
At the same time, situations like 9-11 will bring out the best and the worst in people. And if someone wants to cheer over the attacks and how justified they were, perhaps they indeed are protected by the US constitution. Perhaps it is within their right to say stuff like that. Perhaps they have the right to say how much they adore OBL and his thugs. Perhaps they have the right to say how much they hate us in the western world and our way of life. Perhaps they have that right.
To me that doesnt matter. If someone wants to stand up and cheer over the terrorists who butchered thousands of innocent civilians on 9-11, they might have the legal right to do so, but they will instantly become my enemy. I have absolutely zero tolerance, understanding or respect for those people. In fact I hate their guts. Even though all they have done is excercise their constitutional right to say whats on their mind, to express their opinion. I doesnt matter. In my opinion they have choosen sides, and they chose the side of my enemy.
They can all go to Afghanistan for all I care.
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Krusher, you forgot Sect 3 and 4. Four being kind of important I think.
SEC. 4. And be it further enacted, That this act shall continue and be in force until the third day of March, one thousand eight hundred and one, and no longer: Provided, that the expiration of the act shall not prevent or defeat a prosecution and punishment of any offence against the law, during the time it shall be in force.
http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/statutes/sedact.htm (http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/statutes/sedact.htm)
This law was passed and repealed prior to Marbury v Madison (1803) and I don't believe that it would pass the process of Judicial review which was established by that decision.
-Sikboy
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Originally posted by Hortlund
If someone wants to stand up and cheer over the terrorists who butchered thousands of innocent civilians on 9-11, they might have the legal right to do so, but they will instantly become my enemy. I have absolutely zero tolerance, understanding or respect for those people. In fact I hate their guts. Even though all they have done is excercise their constitutional right to say whats on their mind, to express their opinion. I doesnt matter. In my opinion they have choosen sides, and they chose the side of my enemy.
They can all go to Afghanistan for all I care.
Well, we certainly agree here. I go even further and say that those who believe that prior policy of the United States is responsible for the actions being taken against the United States are also my "enemies" But they make those claims until the cows come home.
You are absolutely right, there are limits to free speech. The forementioned "fire" in a crowded theater being one, but more appropriately, assault is not legal. I have free speach, but I can not threaten to beat/kill/hurt someone. I think this is the type of exclusion that people are looking for in order to combat this UBB. And I happen to agree with this. You can go after people who are making threats. Does "I see a Marine :gunicon:" constitute a threat? I'm not sure, that's for actual lawyers to figure out. But my point here, is that individuals on that board are likely guilty of some laws, but the existance of the board is not a violation of the law, so far as I know. Be they my enemies or not.
-Sikboy
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Originally posted by Sikboy
Krusher, you forgot Sect 3 and 4. Four being kind of important I think.
-Sikboy
Not forgotten at all.. I didnt post it on purpose.
sorta like posting a small portion of the bill of rights without putting it context.
You did notice there wasnt any editorial comment supporting one view or the other?
anyhow right or wrong, the sedition act has been used to convict people wayyy after it expired.
Eugene Debs delivered his Statement to the Court to the Federal Court of Cleveland, Ohio on September 18, 1918 after being convicted of violating the Sedition Act, a protective law passed by Congress to promote the war by banning anti-war propaganda and rhetoric. Under this new law many socialists were unjustly persecuted and stripped of their freedom of speech. As an active socialist, Debs became concerned and attacked American capitalism in an effort to protect first amendment rights. This speech was a plea in his defense for his and other socialists’ freedom of speech. Introduction by Mary Litton Fowler.
BTW next time I post bait for other people try and swim away from it please :)
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While we're on the, "let's (insert violent act) everyone, and deport them" speech, can we take care of a huge problem in america.
JERRY FALWELL and if we can throw in the 700 Club for good measure I'd appreciate it.
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Originally posted by Krusher
BTW next time I post bait for other people try and swim away from it please :)
lol, hey now, if TahGut can follow me around with the bobber.gif I think I can poke a few holes as well :)
-Sikboy
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I was laughing when I read the first post on the board. It was so stereotypical that I thought the site was made as a joke of the fundamentalists.
Then I saw the same thing repeat over and over in the next messages..
Maybe the time is not ready for it yet, but I'm hoping religious fundamentalism will be a reckognised and treatable mental illness.
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Originally posted by easymo
"Point is, if you don't let them all play we will never know who is the wimp. "
Hate to say this, tah gut. But we all know who the wimp is.
Thanks for pointing that out easymo, but don't let your lack of huevos keep you off the playground.
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Somehow I don't think any marine male or female is afraid of a confrontation with anybody that is astute with emoticon animations .
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Originally posted by Hortlund
Man, I'm in some kind of queue. Apparently the moderators have to accept you somehow before you are allowed to post.
I guess I'll have to wait a while before bringing light to the heathens.
Hortlund, I registered no problem. Maybe your name threw up a red flag. Look for posts from "Jihadwolf" to start appearing there.
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Originally posted by Elfenwolf
Hortlund, I registered no problem. Maybe your name threw up a red flag. Look for posts from "Jihadwolf" to start appearing there.
LOL "Jihadwolf"
Yeah, I guess CrusaderJustice was too obvious a troll... I must learn to master the finer aspects of trolling. I'll come up with some new name and meet you there
muahahaha Can you imagine how much fun we can have with those poor SOB's...
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btw Elf, are you sure you have posting rights? Because I am a registred member, but I'm not allowed to reply to posts or post new topics.
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Heres a valid question:
Does the constitution protect those who act to detroy it and the country where it reigns as supreme law?
In my opinion, "if" the constitution can be levied against itself in order to aid in its own destruction then its no good to begin with. No good at all.
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We thought we had passed the demarkation point in history where we no longer feared our destruction as a nation, but honestly, there are giant forces in the world that would openly applaud and in fact actively fight to ensure the destruction of the constitution and the nation.
Dont believe it? WTC was a tiny little jab at just that. Some say it was simply a warning to stop and desists support of Isreal and withdraw from the muslim influenced areas of the world but I for one am convinced that if Isreal were to cease then we would be next in line for allahs army of martyrs. We are heathens in the minds of most of the globes muslims simply because we are non-believers.
Is it just me or does anyone else think along similar lines?
If I am incorrect in my take on things then I am open for adjustment. Im not offended by disagreements. I am offended by violence.
Heres some advice offered to a young man by his father after that young man saw two other men openly gun each other down after a gambling dispute:
"Always give every man the full benifit of every possible doubt;
You'll have to stretch many a point to allow for the free-and-easy life of these western camps. But, whenever you're certain that your dealing with downright visciousness, the complete disregard for human rights and decency, remember that such lawlessness is the greatest enemy of mankind. Any man who is honestly combating such lawlessness is justified in going to any lengths to which lawlessness forces the fight. ""When you know you have a fight with visciousness on your hands, hit first, if you can, and when you do hit, hit to kill.,
This old quote attracts me because I believe the advice is sound and just as relevant today as it was 150 years ago. I see the terrorists which seek to destroy us as downright viscious and in need of the most permanent form of squelching.
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goood....round 'em up...ship 'em out....prevent them from saying what they want to say...'cream them'... does it occur to you that you have turned INTO what you hate the most?
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Originally posted by hawk220
goood....round 'em up...ship 'em out....prevent them from saying what they want to say...'cream them'... does it occur to you that you have turned INTO what you hate the most?
hehe go to that site and post a topic with a diferent view from theirs. Then see how long before it's deleted or locked....
Oh and BTW, "them" happen to be our enemies, who gives a toejam about what they want or what they think? Only thing I worry about is how long until they all have bullet holes in them, preferable gut shot and left to rot....
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Originally posted by Udie
hehe go to that site and post a topic with a diferent view from theirs. Then see how long before it's deleted or locked....
Oh and BTW, "them" happen to be our enemies, who gives a toejam about what they want or what they think? Only thing I worry about is how long until they all have bullet holes in them, preferable gut shot and left to rot....
Gas chamber might be more efficient. Might want to concentrate them in camps first.
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Quote:
does it occur to you that you have turned INTO what you hate the most?"
That is the most ludicrous, specious comment(made regularly by hand-wringing Liberals)and completely, as usual, illogical as hell.
The United States and it's Allies defeated Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan using extreme violence. The USA, GB, Australia, New Zealand, and the other Allied Nations did not "turn into what they hate the most" prosecuting WWII(exception made for that Camelot of Liberals, the Soviet Union).
Arresting, prosecuting, and punishing criminals doesn't turn you or your society into a "criminal". Defending yourfamily from an armed intruder and killing the attacker doesn't make you a "killer" or a "murderer"(though to a pinhead Pacifist/Liberal it would).
And defending your nation from Terrorists, condemning(and expelling if necessary)those who would advocate killing our military personnel and destroying our way of life doesn't "turn you into what you hate most." Hell no, it's the RESPONISIBLE thing to do.
An American citizen has the REPSPONSIBILITY to ensure that FUTURE generations have the same guarantees to Life, Liberty, and The Pursuit of Happiness as is presently enjoyed. To ignore the hateful trash posted by those idiots is IRRESPONSIBLE. They should be watched just as Anti-Abortion Bombers, KKK types, Enviro-Terrorists, The Weather Underground clones, and other Terrorist organizations and their members are today.
You have the "right" to say ANYTHING you want. You also have to face the consequences for saying it if it involves murder, advocating murder, advocating or participating in overthrowing the FREELY ELECTED government of the United States, or any othe illegal activity that threatens the lives and livelihood of American citizens.
Again, you can SAY anything you like IF you are an American citizen. If you are NOT, you are subject to deportation. If you ARE a citizen and you say/write the trash on that BBS, you do NOT have the "right" to be protected from public derision, ridicule, condemnation, ostracization, and monitoring by the appropriate authorities just in case you DO carry-out the threats they make.
It's the RESPONSIBLE thing to do, the right thing to do, and doesn't turn you into "one of them".
Cabby
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Gas chamber might be more efficient. Might want to concentrate them in camps first.
You sick diddly.
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cabby...
liberal? you wouldn't say that if you knew me.
do you really think some website is going to make people do what they don't already want to do? Like some Arab is going to wake up and read the site and think: 'hmmm maybe I WILL go blow something up'..doubtful. use a little (and rare) critical thinking instead of the knee-jerk reaction and you will see what I mean. its the same thing that has Israel and the Palestinians dishing revenge on each other without knowing what the orignial harm was.
we would scream that they did the attacks on 9/11 and need revenge
they would spout all sorts of harm caused by US policy in the region and need revenge
we wave the flag and spout needs for the various policies that did what they feel is a harm and so on and so on..
so there is no way to get above it? or are you so seething with anger that you don't want to?
Hawk220
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Originally posted by Thrawn
Gas chamber might be more efficient. Might want to concentrate them in camps first.
no, I think a bullet to the back of the head would be more efficient.
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Originally posted by Udie
no, I think a bullet to the back of the head would be more efficient.
Udie, why not just stick a hook in their mouths and drag them out of the water? Then you could hang them on a scale and get your picture taken with them, and if you catch one with a perticularly long beard you could have his head stuffed and mounted.
Smaller ones you could filet, dip in egg wash, roll in seasoned flour and fry real quick on an ELECTRIC skillet, an appliance unsurpassed for its intelligence.
After all, that's what you do to fish, Udie.
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Originally posted by ~Caligula~
You sick diddly.
Try reading the whole thread Caligula...
Oh, you did?
Try reading it again.
-Sikboy
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Originally posted by Elfenwolf
Udie, why not just stick a hook in their mouths and drag them out of the water? Then you could hang them on a scale and get your picture taken with them, and if you catch one with a perticularly long beard you could have his head stuffed and mounted.
Smaller ones you could filet, dip in egg wash, roll in seasoned flour and fry real quick on an ELECTRIC skillet, an appliance unsurpassed for its intelligence.
After all, that's what you do to fish, Udie.
Oh soooo much to teach so little time to teach it in. First off you don't use egg or flower on fish, Long John Silvers does that not any self respecting cajun (born in La so I can call myself cajun) You use CORN MEAL to fry fish....
Here's a pick of a nice 4lb large mouth bass my roommate harvested last sunday. Bastard caught it right in front of me and I didn't catch anything until about 8 hours later :( We should have taken a picture after he filet'd it. You know it's the damndest thing but fish don't die real fast. He lived for a while after we took all the meat off of him. You could look up in his head and see his little heart goin "pitter patter" (say that in George H. Bush accent) and he was still trying to flip around, which was dificult for him considering the fact that he had no, well very little, muscles left. I imagine he finaly expired some time within and hour or 2 of being cleaned. I do feel bad for it though, I mean gosh how'd you like your last sight on the planet to by my face? :D
But all I know now is that the 2nd best bass lake in tx has my name on it :D Tomorrow afternoon the genocide begins again :)
[edit] Oh and I like your idea about mounting the arabs with the really long beards, but we better not. I'd hate to have the Canadian government court martial us or something :p
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Originally posted by ~Caligula~
You sick diddly.
LOL!! And this is coming from a facist nazi nut bar.
Don't forget to take your thorizene, captain sociopath.
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An American citizen has the REPSPONSIBILITY to ensure that FUTURE generations have the same guarantees to Life, Liberty, and The Pursuit of Happiness as is presently enjoyed. To ignore the hateful trash posted by those idiots is IRRESPONSIBLE. They should be watched just as Anti-Abortion Bombers, KKK types, Enviro-Terrorists, The Weather Underground clones, and other Terrorist organizations and their members are today.
You have the "right" to say ANYTHING you want. You also have to face the consequences for saying it if it involves murder, advocating murder, advocating or participating in overthrowing the FREELY ELECTED government of the United States, or any othe illegal activity that threatens the lives and livelihood of American citizens.
Again, you can SAY anything you like IF you are an American citizen. If you are NOT, you are subject to deportation. If you ARE a citizen and you say/write the trash on that BBS, you do NOT have the "right" to be protected from public derision, ridicule, condemnation, ostracization, and monitoring by the appropriate authorities just in case you DO carry-out the threats they make.
It's the RESPONSIBLE thing to do, the right thing to do, and doesn't turn you into "one of them".
Cabby!!!
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I see you've gone from advocating suspension of the right to free speech to a version more in line with the constitutions intent.
You still need to seek help nut job.
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Weazel, keep pretending you know what you are talking about. Nothing is guranteed, even if it is in the Bill of Rights.
What do you think would happen now if i ran around New York City yelling "I love the Taliban", "All hail the Taliban". Well, 1) i would get my arse kicked, and 2) I would probally be arrested.
The time when you loose your right too free speech, is when you put others in danger. For example, if i was in a room with 100,000 people, and i yelled "Fire", thats when i loose my free speech. Everybody would run, people would get trampled, and people would get hurt.
When i get sued for damages to these people, what am i going to say...
"Uh yea, i have free speech, yea..."
Go take a law class or somthing
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Oh Man! Lol, the more i read, the more i think that Weazel doesnt have a Elementry School Diploma
I see nothing indefensible in my stance regarding the US constitution, it's black and white
If the constitution was Black and White, then why do we need courts?
The courts decide weather somthing is constitutional or not. If the Constitution was "Black and White" as you say, we might as well get rid of all these courts...
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Why.....so I can become a parasitic lawyer and live off other peoples hard work?
No thanks, there are other fields of work that don't require being a liar or suspending all moral values.
"Nothing is guranteed, even if it is in the Bill of Rights"
BTW your wrong, John Nazicroft hasn't removed the 1st article from the bill of rights....yet.
Where yours and cabbys twisted logic falls short is I never said there aren't consequences for what a person says....only that they have the right to say what they like.
Big difference there, quit trying to spin it.
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No, you are wrong
The time when you loose your right too free speech, is when you put others in danger. For example, if i was in a room with 100,000 people, and i yelled "Fire", thats when i loose my free speech. Everybody would run, people would get trampled, and people would get hurt.
I am 100% sure i am correct, went through many law classes back in High School
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Originally posted by Heinkel
If the constitution was Black and White, then why do we need courts?
The courts decide weather somthing is constitutional or not. If the Constitution was "Black and White" as you say, we might as well get rid of all these courts...
Well not to come down on weazel's side or anything I think your wrong here. The courts are there to make sure the legislative branch or executive doesn't make a law that is unconstitutional.
The way I see it is blured hehe j/k is like this The constitution is black and white. The gray's come in in the legislative and executive branches.
You still suck weazel :D
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Lemme repharse:
It's court's jobs to Interpet the constitution.
Example A) (Right to Free Speech Upheld)
A person(s) demonstrates in the city (for lets say Animal Rights), in a calm mannor, and another person find's it annyoing and sues the demonstaraters. Most courts will side with the demonstraters, and say they were just expressing there free speech.
Example B) (you loose right to free speech)
You are in a Baseball stadidum. You start screaming out "Theres a fire, everybody get out". People run, and tramble each other"
The trampled people sue you, 99% of courts will side with the trampled person(s)
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wow Heinkle, really going out on a limb with that example. :rolleyes:
The UBB posted by Udie does not violate the free speech provision of the 1st Amendment IMHO. It is stupid in many cases, reprehensible, maddening and downright wrong, but it isn't illegal.
I'm for having the FBI/INS track these goatherds down and ship 'em all out on the first available banana boat(preferably one that leaks)back to the sandpiles they belong in................
BTW, i didn't SAY kill the goatherds, i said deport them. Once they are back in their sandboxes, if we end up cremating them it's because they happened to be in the crosshairs of an F-15 Weapons Officer, capiche weazel-boy??
Anyone who advocates, assists, encourages, harbors, or in any other way promotes the killing of US Military personnel or US civilians, should be imprisoned and/or deported.
Guess Cabby's on his own list ?
Again, you can SAY anything you like IF you are an American citizen. If you are NOT, you are subject to deportation. If you ARE a citizen and you say/write the trash on that BBS, you do NOT have the "right" to be protected from public derision, ridicule, condemnation, ostracization, and monitoring by the appropriate authorities just in case you DO carry-out the threats they make.
I'm glad you finally saw the light. Revel in your new found lefty-liberalness. ;)
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If a random sample of 1000 Americans read that UBB, i know that at least 50% of them would be worried after reading that, that another terrorst attack will happen.
So yes, that UBB could cause harm to others
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Originally posted by midnight Target
wow Heinkle, really going out on a limb with that example. :rolleyes:
The UBB posted by Udie does not violate the free speech provision of the 1st Amendment IMHO. It is stupid in many cases, reprehensible, maddening and downright wrong, but it isn't illegal.
where did I say anything stupid? or WRONG for that matter? ;) wait which thread is this I'm losing track. Is this the thread I started about that arab UBB? Maddening I'll give ya because the truth can make you mad sometimes even more so when you're on the wrong side of it :D
I think most of my posts in this thread have been in jest, well mostly in jest. I wasn't completely serious about the bullet to the back of the head thing, though part of me was.....
For now it's FRIDAY!!!! Big fish to be caught this week, I'm at home now and have been here for about 15 min so all I can think of to say now is.....
MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP!!!! :D
Have a great Memorial day guys! and don't forget why we have monday off!!! to all that have fallen for us!
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Originally posted by Heinkel
Lemme repharse:
It's court's jobs to Interpet the constitution.
Example A) (Right to Free Speech Upheld)
A person(s) demonstrates in the city (for lets say Animal Rights), in a calm mannor, and another person find's it annyoing and sues the demonstaraters. Most courts will side with the demonstraters, and say they were just expressing there free speech.
Example B) (you loose right to free speech)
You are in a Baseball stadidum. You start screaming out "Theres a fire, everybody get out". People run, and tramble each other"
The trampled people sue you, 99% of courts will side with the trampled person(s)
Just to get it straight, I agree with the overall view of your argument :) Just the black and white thing didn't sit well....
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Some of the stuff on that BB comes pretty close to communicating a threat, which is against the law . Something that is taken especially seriously when directed at the President or the government .
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Originally posted by Heinkel
If a random sample of 1000 Americans read that UBB, i know that at least 50% of them would be worried after reading that, that another terrorst attack will happen.
So yes, that UBB could cause harm to others
If a random sample of 1000 Americans read the ingredients in a Twinkie, I know that at least 50% of them would be worried after reading that, that another heart attack will happen.
-Sikboy
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"It's court's jobs to Interpet the constitution"
BZZZTTTTTTT!
Wrong again, it's the courts job to UPHOLD the Constitution.
I may suck Udie, but in this case I'm also right. :D
"I'm glad you finally saw the light. Revel in your new found lefty-liberalness"
ROTFL! Good shot, Cabby...the lefty liberal has a nice ring to it.:cool:
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Once again, you are wrong.
Did they write anywheres in the Constitution:
"If terrorists attack the US, this is what is constitutional....."
No they didnt. It is up to the courts to decide what is or isnt constitutional in our modern day society.
Lets not forget, we are in the 21st century, not the 1700's. Well, we cant go ask the people who wrote the constitution what is and isnt constitutional reguarding terrorism. So, what is the next best thing? The courts. That is why we have them
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Originally posted by Heinkel
If a random sample of 1000 Americans read that UBB, i know that at least 50% of them would be worried after reading that, that another terrorst attack will happen.
So yes, that UBB could cause harm to others
Holy crap! You don't KNOW that at all. You completely made up that number. Its a figment of your imagination.
Here are some real numbers for you. 100% of all mes polled think that "So no, that does prove anything.".
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Thrawn, you live in Canada, i live 25 Miles from where the WTC used to be. Now, maeby i was wrong, maeby not 1000 americans, but if 1000 New York er's saw that BBS...well....
There happens to be a few Muslim establishments in my community, and let me tell you, after 9/11, they arent getting any business. While, i dont have anything against Muslims, after 9/11, a lot of people unfortunalty do, and after reading that UBB, they wouldn't be too happy.
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Originally posted by Heinkel
Thrawn, you live in Canada, i live 25 Miles from where the WTC used to be. Now, maeby i was wrong, maeby not 1000 americans, but if 1000 New York er's saw that BBS...well....
Maybe...possibly...hell, even probably. We won't know until the poll is done. Living in Canada or 25 miles away from where the WTC was immaterial to this arguement.
There happens to be a few Muslim establishments in my community, and let me tell you, after 9/11, they arent getting any business. While, i dont have anything against Muslims, after 9/11, a lot of people unfortunalty do, and after reading that UBB, they wouldn't be too happy. [/B]
Good to hear you don't have any problems with muslims in general.
Now who is the problem. Your every day western muslim or the the reactionary jerks who suddenly think they are all terrorists.
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Freedom of speech is a *right* guaranteed by the US Constitution, as I said before...there may be consequences resulting from what you say, but the law says you have the *right* to speak your mind.
"It is up to the courts to decide what is or isnt constitutional in our modern day society"
No, thats just what the *conservatives* would like you to believe.
Originally posted by Heinkel
Once again, you are wrong.
Did they write anywheres in the Constitution:
"If terrorists attack the US, this is what is constitutional....."
No they didnt. It is up to the courts to decide what is or isnt constitutional in our modern day society.
Lets not forget, we are in the 21st century, not the 1700's. Well, we cant go ask the people who wrote the constitution what is and isnt constitutional reguarding terrorism. So, what is the next best thing? The courts. That is why we have them
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Yea, you do have the right to speak your mind.
Then the FBI has the right to come and take your Computer, Shut Down your BBS, and then trown you in some jail cell.
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Happy Memorial Day, everybody. Remember to honor the people who have made our country great through their sacrifices- the 1960s Leftist Liberals who protested the Vietnam War. I am going to a peace rally in Berkeley at the parking lot that used to be Peoples Park for a weekend of speeches, Arab and North Vietnamese flag waving and a general discussion on the evils of Capitalism. I hope to see you there. I am the guy wearing the tie-dye shirt, embroidered jeans, sandals and a raspberry beret. Come up and say hello.
Toodles,
Elfie
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Originally posted by Elfenwolf
blah blah blah at the parking lot that used to be Peoples Park blah blah blah [/B]
It's much better for the homless population now that the park was paved over. Large SUVs offer better protection from the bighting Berkley rain than the trees of old. Plus, on some of the larger For "Ex" models (Ecusrion, Excremetn ect) the foul smelling vermen can take shelter under them in the rain. Best of all though, is that students and yuppies sometimes drop small change as they exit their vehicles. This can be exchanged for maddog 20/20 more effectively than the leaves and sticks that the bums used to try and barter with.
-Sikboy
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What a great day!! I got to meet one of the truly great Americans from the 1960s, Angela Davis. She was the chairperson in our "socialism is sharing, sharing is caring" workshop.
We performed an exercise to show the virtues of socialism over capitalism that many of you might want to show your children and their friends. First, you designate one in the group "Mister Rich Republican" and you give him several dozen apples to represent his wealth. Then, to demonstrate the current form of capitalism, all of us without apples watched him waste friviously several of his apples. Then we "taxed" Mr. Rich Republican and we took away one of his apples for each member of the group. Of course Mr. Rich Republican squeaked that it wasn't fair, and we agreed- after all, we only had ONE apple each and he still had a bunch.
So we took ALL his apples and divided them up- now THAT was fair. "Socialism Is Sharing, Sharing Is Caring" in action. I think they should demonstrate this in all public schools. Did you know that if we divided all of America's wealth through socialism each man, woman and child would get over $250,000? WHO WANTS TO BE A MILLIONARE???
Tomorrow we're chanting for world peace and the Berkeley City Council will present Abby Hoffman with its American Patriot Of The Year award. After our tofu and broccoli burger we will have an "impromptu" demonstration demanding the U.S. out of the Middle East. Man, I'm having a blast. And the best part of all is we're so non-partisan- we're a mix of Marxists, Socialists, Greens and, rumor has it, several Democrats even.
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ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What did they call that meeting, "A gathering of Airheads??"
Oh man, i hope that was a joke post cause it's so damn funny i can't stand it...........
Cabby
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I think Cabby is unfamiliar with our friend elf . He doesn't appear to know that he's being played .
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They could use a good lefty-liberal like you as a speaker.
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What a great day at the Peace Conference! It started off really bad when I couldn't find my Lybian and North Korean flags, but I drank some soothing herbal tea and burned a peace candle to mellow out. Then I cruised to Berkeley in my 1965 Volkswagen Bus (nicknamed Mister Magoo because back in THE DAY I was too stoned to know where I was going) and got to meet Abby and Tom Hayden! In fact we got our picture taken in front of Mr. Magoo, and I showed off my vintage sound system and played a Grateful Dead 8-track for them. They were impressed.
We had an apology workshop today that moved me to tears. All us white people had to convince people of color we are truly sorry for what we have done to them for the past 400 years. We paired off, one white and one minority, and us whites had to beg forgiveness until our minority forgave us. If we failed to convince our minority we were truly sorry we failed the exercise and had to wear a "Republican Necklace of Disgrace" for the remainder of the day. I tried everything to get Hadja, my Pakistani partner in the exercise, to forgive me but he was adamant I was responsible for his personal misery. I cried, I begged, I pleaded, but what finally got Hadja to forgive me was the fifty bucks I slipped him under the table.
I love the lunches at these leftist workshops. Today we had fresh sprouts, four sesame seeds, tofu marinated in lemon water, an orange wedge and one Freeto. Not to be complaining, but the only bad thing about eating Leftist food is that you're hungry again in an hour. I think we're having split pea soup for lunch tomorrow because the food server was telling everyone today to "Visualize Whirled Peas."
Our afternoon lecture was on "Fascism On The Internet." My stomach was growling so loud I didn't catch all of it, but basically we're exploring ways to ban fascist and racist viewpoints on the Internet because it interferes with our right to free speech.
After we were dismissed I walked down Telegraph Avenue looking for a Jane Fonda "Barbarella" poster, but all I found was one of her in that Hanoi AA battery and I already have that, so I got a slice of veggie pizza and some raw almonds and cruised back home.
Tomorrow we're having a workshop on Exploitation of Women where all the males have to put on makeup and dresses and dance around and wait on the females to please them. If we don't make our female happy we have to wear a Republican Necklace of Disgrace the rest of the day.
I'll keep you all posted,
Elfenwolf
PS: Sikboy, I was talking to a street vendor selling candles on Telegraph Avenue and he says he was an attorney but he makes more money selling candles so he closed his law pratice. He says if you were smart you'd give up on college, buy a bunch of wax and a card table and become a street vendor. Not only is your income tax free, but there's not alot of thinking involved in making candles so you can stay stoned all day.
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heres a site ive found to like:D Super Butts!!!!!! (http://www.super-butts.com/ )
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Elf, are you still using american flag cigarette papers when you roll your own ?
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Elfenwolf....... Simply brilliant!!! :)
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Originally posted by Samm
Elf, are you still using american flag cigarette papers when you roll your own ?
Samm, the only recreational drug I abuse is Viagara.
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Elfenwood that was classic.
I wish I was there :(
You could have begged me for forgiveness, and maybe I would have been merciful.
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What a great final day for the Memorial Day Peace Conference in Berkeley! Animal, you woulda loved it.
Being the true patriots we are, we start every day with the Pledge of Allegance, which I feel they should reinstate in our public schools, BTW. It had been so long since I had said the Pledge of Allegance that I had forgotten the words-
"I pledge allegance To the Cause
Of the Liberalization of America.
And to the Society we will Create,
One nation, with no rich people,
With Liberty and Justice for all minorities, women and gays."
Of course rather than saluting the flag we burned it, and that caused a debate over rather school children should also burn the flag while saying the Pledge of Allegance. Personally I feel the fire risk outweighs the need to burn the flag in classrooms, but quite a few of my fellow Leftists felt a tragic fire where 30 or so kids are killed while burning an American flag might be the wake up call Middle America needs to see just how lousy the Republicans are.
Our morning workshop on the Exploitation of Women sucked because I had the misfortune to be matched up with my REAL wife. She helped me put on my make up, got me into my bra and pantyhose, then we role played where she made me bring her beers while she watched TV, do the cooking and the laundry and then she made me pretend to like the bad sex I was getting from my drunk "husband." Man, I never knew she had such issues. I never did please her and ended up having to wear a Republican Necklace of Disgrace the rest of the day.
We didn't get split pea soup for lunch after all. Instead we had three day old sprouts, a grape, half an unsalted ricecake and a Freeto. Man, I've never wished porkchops and gravy were a vegetable so bad before in my life.
The afternoon's featured speakers were Wavy Gravy and treesitter Julia "Butterfly" Hill, and I doubt you could find two greater Americans as the last day's speakers. Wavy Gravy entertained us by taking us all on a walk down memory lane with his humorous stories of being high on Acid while driving 25 MPH in the fast lane of the Santa Monica Freeway and Butterfly? Well, what can I say? Julia Hill is a modern-day Joan of Arc. It was great to see such wonderful Americans.
We ended the Conference by holding hands and singing our anthem- "Ohio" by Crosby, Stills and Nash, and the words that have empowered our Movement since they were written-
"Tin soldiers and Nixon's coming,
We're finally on our own.
This summer I hear the drumming,
Four dead in Ohio."
Peace and love,
Elfie