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Help and Support Forums => All things VR => Topic started by: sundowner25 on May 03, 2020, 09:58:37 AM
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I every now and then get a very momentary slight freeze. I'll be flying along fine and the it will freeze for a quick second then go right back to normal. I wanted to see if anyone else has had an issues like this. There seems to be no rhyme or reason for nm it that I can identify. I am using a valve index on a intel i9, 32gb ram, with an nvidia 2080ti.
Thanks in advance.
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I recently had a similar issue. I'm using a RiftS. Different HMD and different brand, I know. Maybe there's some commonality tho. Drove me nuts. Thought my USB hub was flaking out. Plugged in directly didn't fix it. Ruled that out. What I found after some Google was that the Oculus software didn't play well with others. Particularly, any sort of monitoring programs or lighting software. I use aida64 and have for years across a couple of builds. That's one it doesn't like. HWMonitor is another one. This is a new PC and I put some pretty LED fans in it and an AIO PC cooler. They're controlled by Corsair iCue. That's one it doesn't like. My mobo has lights on it. Asus Aura. Another one. My GPU has lights on it. MSI Mystic Light. Another one. I run MSI Afterburner to monitor and overclock the GPU. I had some additional items tied into it's monitoring graphs that pulled info from aida64. I have another little LCD panel I use like a little dashboard that pulls info from aida64. Another suspect but not on the list.
With all that crap running I didn't have any problems generally with performance, however, I'd get odd random freezes in games. For all I know they were happening all the time but you might not notice them at the desktop. They'd last maybe a half sec. When these occurred I'd also get commands that would drop flaps or gear or dive flaps. Set my throttle to like 10%. Really annoying!
Tested this by sitting on the runway offline and waited for the glitch. Killed a process and waited. Killed another and waited. Got it to happen rarely rather than every minute or so of ever few seconds at random. Not totally removed but here's why.
I was reluctant to kill iCue because of the AIO control, but put in a straight fan control and static lighting for when gaming I enable manually that's not generally looking at anything to react to. But iCue does monitor a bunch of things. I have a headset on after all. Not like I'm looking at the pretty lights! Not killing Afterburner as I need it for the GPU and have a fan curve enabled for better cooling, although I did remove the items it was pulling from aida64 for it's graphs. Killed the MSI lighting, aida64, the LCD panel software. I set all those that were causing a conflict to not start with windows whether in the software or in windows services.
So the common thread with mine was aida64 as I had it tied into some other goodies I'm using. After tweaking these I'm not having these odd glitches, which I was also having in other games which ruled out an AH only issue.
Anyway that's something that might help you. Gotta figure all these headsets at their basic level work in much the same way so might be a common thread. Give it a try.
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I've been freezing for a split-second seeing an hourglass and sometimes my view just outright reset to a lower position. I did find some times when I activate my mic there is a slight stall also. If you're a steam user I'm Not sure whether my Oculus sensor losing tracking but that's what I believe it is, when you activate your VR through Steam it is steam's program working with the Oculus not the Oculus program itself it's on in the background but steam is manipulating Oculus to do what you want to do. Other Steam games have the same deal.
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Not using Steam. I use Open Composite VR for games that would require Steam otherwise, but AH isn't one of them.
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:aok I believe it is sound/MIC issue. Thats the only problem I have had, well MAJOR. The little pauses only happen for me in "Hi-congested" coms areas, or seconds after I key up. Me and a wingman, no flicker...get to an active fight...AH VOX, Teamspeak, AH-channel, Range....yup a flicker. Even get VoiceAttack flickers in same HI Talk areas. Sometimes it wont react at all, if chat is to hi :uhoh The Pauses also happen for Non VR squadmates. Wonder if the "Old ways of AH, having issues with some sound drivers(NVidia,Realtec(cant remember) is back? Heck, it may not have ever left,but havent had any issues till recently. Heck, it may be the COVID I saw it flying BISH,Fri evening :pray
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I'm not running VR and I have the same problem even when there's nobody around.
Just little random freezes while my framerate is reading over 100.
I have heard many people mention it in game so I don't think it's just us.
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Might still be a process that's messing you up. Do a ctrl-alt-del and start killing processes you prolly don't need to be running while gaming. Always a good idea anyway. I didn't know about the conflicts I was having as I'd never had an AIO or lighting of any kind on my other PCs. I just added them to the list of things I usually shut down before a gaming session. Every clock cycle counts man!
If you're wondering whether you can safely kill a process or not, Google it and better yet, download one of Blackviper's guides for your OS.
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Sounds like you have the dx11 version studder that I have never been able to find or duplicate. I previously searched on the issue, found other games had same issue. But I have never found anything that gives me a hint how to fix.
HiTech
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Sounds like you have the dx11 version studder that I have never been able to find or duplicate. I previously searched on the issue, found other games had same issue. But I have never found anything that gives me a hint how to fix.
HiTech
And what is totally annoying is the randomness of it. When I tested it I was just sitting on a runway in the 38, engines off. I was in VR with tracking paused looking straight ahead. Put a towel in the headset so it'd stay on and watched the screen in Oculus Mirror. Hands off everything just drones flying around with a clear sky, FR full at 80 in the RiftS.
It might take 5 minutes or more but eventually I'd get a pause. Drones paused, dive brake indicator came on, throttle would go to maybe 10% all by itself, ailerons pull left and stay there. I have all of those mapped to an axis on different controllers. Throttle on CH Throttle. Dive brake on the brake lever on the VKB stick. Roll on same stick.
I might get another pause in ten seconds or ten minutes. Kinda all over the place. Killing monitoring processes cured most of this for me.
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Would bumping up the priority of the AH executable do anything here?
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I have found my set up has two sets of audio driver options for rift headset and rift mic. iirc one is called Virtual Rift Mic. That seems to cause stutters. Sometimes when the Rift drivers update they flick back the virtual driver as default. So I have to change the in game selection for headphones and mic back.
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Yeah that crap started with the December updates. Safe to just disable them but every update now jumbles the sound devices in OBS and have to reset them as well. I've forgotten more than once and recorded nice video with no sound but me.
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Mine was 100% tied to the soundcard I was using - every time there was a new sound or sound transition, I would get the micro-pause.
At the time I had an older Soundblaster and then decided to switched to onboard Realtek - same issue. I then decided to buy a new PCI-E Creative X-fi soundcard - stutter completely went away. Same video card. Same older PC and using an Acer101 VR headset. Now with no issues. :aok
Hitech - I pretty sure it's related to sound that's causing the stuttering.
BTW - I have an i7-3770k CPU and 24Gb ram and a Geforce GTX1070. Win10-1909.
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Note I have seen 2 times of studders described, one about a second long pause, another just a frame twitch. Wich one were you seeing with the sound?
Btw in the vr settings, try disabling auto mode switch and see if that removes the studder.
HiTech
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cv1 2070 super and i7. I still get that stutter - only common thing i've noticed was that it occurs just as I close to someone - like 1.5 to 1k out, Hourglass, split second and back. Suggestion that it relates to sounds is interesting...
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Had the dx11 stutter when I used trackir.
I had to use dx9 then.
Since going vr and dx11 no stutter
Eagler
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Note I have seen 2 times of studders described, one about a second long pause, another just a frame twitch. Wich one were you seeing with the sound?
Btw in the vr settings, try disabling auto mode switch and see if that removes the studder.
HiTech
Second long pause and microfreezes (both) is what I was experiencing. I think it was due to my 5 year old SoundBlaster and Windows 10/DX11 challenges and the same with the crappy onboard RealTek audio. Driver was old too from both and upgrading to a new soundcard made the issue go away 100%.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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i normally get both the long hourglass stutter, and the micro stutter.
using a rift s on a plenty powerful system.
does not seem to matter what quality settings in game i choose.
however using the occulus rift debug tool, and setting adaptive gpu performance scale to OFF and asynchronous spacewarp to disabled fixes it. and i can run hi settings without freezes.
bonus points, use pixels per display and set it 1.2-2.0 or so to increase the resolution of the displays. (warning with this, it may impact fps if set too high, and because you are in effect showing a higher resolution image it may change the point of aim just a bit between settings. but it really makes things much clearer if your computer can handle it. i find even 1.2 is a noticeable improvement)
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To avoid the described I swapped out to DX9.
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Thought VR was as in dx11
Eagler
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Check this out.
https://www.pcgamer.com/try-turning-off-windows-10s-game-mode-if-your-games-are-stuttering-or-freezing/
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Check this out.
https://www.pcgamer.com/try-turning-off-windows-10s-game-mode-if-your-games-are-stuttering-or-freezing/
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Interesting!? Being it is on by default!? Daddyace, mentioned "game mode" a few weeks ago, so I checked it out. I didnt see any changes with it turned off...but was more "per a FR" angle. Didnt leave it off for very long, so might have missed something as per frequency of "stutters"? :uhoh
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Interesting indeed. However, the micro freeze of half a second or so was present on Windows 7 as well.
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My rift S had the issue until December when they forced an update. It worked flawlessly until the February update and then it was really bad. Very frequent stutters and pauses in Aces High and IL2.
Last night I disabled Realtek HD audio manager and in device manager under sound, video and game controllers I disabled Oculus virtual audio device. It seems to have solved my issue but Ive only played for an hour or so since then.
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Disabling the Oculus Virtual Audio Device is something you can do and should do automatically. FYI it's probably gonna reset itself with an update so be aware of that and go looking for it each time. It apparently has absolutely nothing to do with the RiftS and everything to do with the Quest. If you're using OBS to record or stream be aware you'll have to reset your audio sources after each update for the same reason. That all happened during the winter updates where they homogenized their software to "work" with all their headsets. Seems to me that strategery has caused more problems than a little bit. Pure genius. :rock
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Dont think it's a hardware issue such as a sound card, seems to widespread for that. It does seem like it you listen the sound almost hangs to, sometimes the sound seems to slip even when the screen dosnt freeze. Most freezes are very quick, every now and then you get one that's twice as long. I play iracing with no issues. I run an intel i9, 32gb, with a 2080 ti.
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I was having a real issue with my Z390's onboard sound RT ACl1220A, where as every time I would broadcast voice I would get a stutter (more like a pause) and large FPS drop . It seems that the onboard sound is having issues between the front and rear panels causing interference with one another. I installed my old dedicated sound card and everything has cleared up . FWIW
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I have the same issue if I run DX11 with my monitor I get the stutter. I used to get it with my Occulus Rift then I installed AVG Maintenance program got from Amazon for 20 dollars and it put all Background programs to sleep and that fixed it. I also installed the latest Nividia Driver another time it was happening and that fixed it.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07WDLV1KG/ref=sr_1_6?dchild=1&keywords=avg&qid=1589650205&sr=8-6