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Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Sandman on September 25, 2005, 02:53:32 PM
Okay.. the game is created. It is a standard game on the Modern Map (http://www.floc.net/dpjudge/?page=about:modern)

http://www.floc.net/dpjudge/?game=oclub_modern

There can be ten players.

Chime in, if you want to play and I'll PM the password to you.
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Tarmac on September 25, 2005, 03:07:33 PM
In!!!
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Tarmac on September 25, 2005, 03:08:11 PM
Send a PM to Steve, too.  He's been wanting to get in on another game.
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Sandman on September 25, 2005, 03:20:37 PM
Okay... password is sent to both of you.
Title: Re: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Sandman on September 25, 2005, 03:26:53 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Sandman
Okay.. the game is created. It is a standard game on the Modern Map (http://www.floc.net/dpjudge/?page=about:modern)
 


The map link will work if you remove the %20.

Not sure why it's doing this.
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Gunslinger on September 25, 2005, 03:27:50 PM
I'd like in as well.
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: SOB on September 25, 2005, 03:30:03 PM
Giggity Goo, Count Me In Too!
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: BlueJ1 on September 25, 2005, 03:36:20 PM
Does it matter if you havnt played before? And if not then may I join please.
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Sandman on September 25, 2005, 03:43:43 PM
Quote
Originally posted by BlueJ1
Does it matter if you havnt played before? And if not then may I join please.


Sure... better move fast.

Visit this page to learn about the game:

http://diplom.org

Visit this page to learn about the judge:

http://www.floc.net/dpjudge/
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Sandman on September 25, 2005, 03:48:28 PM
Oh... and these are the current rules:

RULE GREY_PRESS
RULE EAVESDROP
RULE CIVIL_DISORDER
RULE CD_BUILDS
RULE CD_RETREATS
RULE REAL_TIME
RULE LIST_UNORDERED
RULE NO_LATE_CHANGES
TIMING MOVE 2D GRACE 1D NEXT 1D


If you have a problem with these or would like to add some others, let me know.
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: BlueJ1 on September 25, 2005, 03:59:27 PM
Dosnt seem too complicated.
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Sandman on September 25, 2005, 04:06:35 PM
Quote
Originally posted by BlueJ1
Dosnt seem too complicated.


I'll remember you said that. :)
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: BlueJ1 on September 25, 2005, 04:11:10 PM
LOL, I knew that was coming. And when Ive been conquered in 24 hours I'l remember that.
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Sandman on September 25, 2005, 05:39:32 PM
5 more to go!
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: BlueJ1 on September 25, 2005, 05:40:23 PM
Umm, how do I get in ?

:lol
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Sandman on September 25, 2005, 05:43:18 PM
Quote
Originally posted by BlueJ1
Umm, how do I get in ?

:lol


Hmmm... Mr. Itdoesn'tlookcomplicated didn't read much, did he? :)

http://www.floc.net/dpjudge/?page=Email#join

Some of the commands on DPJudge must be sent via email the same way as you would in the Ken Lowe system:

http://www.diplom.org/Email/newintro.html

...but you'll probably get by without knowing that.

You WILL have to register with the DPJudge:

http://www.floc.net/dpjudge/dppd/
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Nefarious on September 25, 2005, 05:45:59 PM
Would like to play :)
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Nefarious on September 25, 2005, 05:50:05 PM
Did I do that right?

N/M I think I got it.
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: BlueJ1 on September 25, 2005, 05:50:36 PM
Ok got the refistration part.
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Nefarious on September 25, 2005, 05:59:58 PM
Hmmmm, Im having trouble.
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Sandman on September 25, 2005, 06:14:16 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Nefarious
Hmmmm, Im having trouble.


Have you registered with the judge?
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Nefarious on September 25, 2005, 06:18:05 PM
Do i need to regsiter again?
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Sandman on September 25, 2005, 06:20:58 PM
First, you'll have to register with the judge. If you've done that already, you'll have to send an email to the judge to join the game.

To join, send the email to: dpjudge@diplom.org

In the body of the message type:

JOIN OCLUB_MODERN password



That's all there is to it.
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Nefarious on September 25, 2005, 06:23:19 PM
Ah, I was leaving off the game name:o
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: BlueJ1 on September 25, 2005, 06:23:34 PM
Which password ?
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Sandman on September 25, 2005, 06:24:05 PM
Quote
Originally posted by BlueJ1
Which password ?


The password that I PM'd to you.
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: BlueJ1 on September 25, 2005, 06:26:29 PM
AH that one...never got it...
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Nefarious on September 25, 2005, 06:40:37 PM
Still not getting confirmation....:(
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Nefarious on September 25, 2005, 06:51:14 PM
It says on the Oclub screen you need a Password and a Privacy word.
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Sandman on September 25, 2005, 06:55:05 PM
oops... my mistake

To join, send the email to: dpjudge@diplom.org

In the body of the message type:

JOIN OCLUB_MODERN yourpassword gamepassword
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Nefarious on September 25, 2005, 07:14:53 PM
Do I need another one from you? Or do I enter my login password and the game password?
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Sandman on September 25, 2005, 07:23:16 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Nefarious
Do I need another one from you? Or do I enter my login password and the game password?


Exactly... your login and the one I gave you.
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Nefarious on September 25, 2005, 08:06:39 PM
Im sorry for asking so many questions, but where can I retrieve my login Password :D
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: SOB on September 25, 2005, 08:52:21 PM
Sandy...

Heh, well damn.  I managed to join up as Power #1 AND as Power #2.  I think I sent off about 10 emails trying to get it right, and must've doubled up somewhere in there.  Is this something you can fix, or should I figure out how to withdraw on one of 'em?

PS...your PM box is full.
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: SOB on September 25, 2005, 08:57:17 PM
Also, regarding the rules of this game... I think that considering the leniency of the CD_Builds & CD_Retreats, I think the grace period should be cut down to 10 hrs.  That way we don't have to wait an entire day for someone missing their orders, but they still have plenty of time to enter them after the reminder email is sent when they miss the deadline.
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Nefarious on September 25, 2005, 08:59:00 PM
Still looking for help getting in....:(
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: SOB on September 25, 2005, 09:08:55 PM
I think you can go here: http://www.diplom.org/dpjudge/dppd, and set up an account, and then use the password you set up when sending out the join email.  This isn't how I've done it in the past, but it's what I ended up doing this time.
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Sandman on September 25, 2005, 09:14:07 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Nefarious
Im sorry for asking so many questions, but where can I retrieve my login Password :D


It's the password you created when you registered with the DPJudge.

This is different than the password or privacy word used for the game.
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Nefarious on September 25, 2005, 09:14:45 PM
Hmmmmm....

I used that link above to resend password and it was what I was using the join email....
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Sandman on September 25, 2005, 09:16:10 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Nefarious
Hmmmmm....

I used that link above to resend password and it was what I was using the join email....


Exactly...

JOIN OCLUB_MODERN yourpassword privacyword

I sent you the privacy word via PM. I don't know your password. You will need to use both to join the game.
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Nefarious on September 25, 2005, 09:17:46 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Sandman
It's the password you created when you registered with the DPJudge.

This is different than the password or privacy word used for the game.


Well you only gave me one password.

And Ive been using my login password, plus the privacy word you sent me.
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Sandman on September 25, 2005, 09:18:35 PM
What's the result?
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Nefarious on September 25, 2005, 09:18:50 PM
Well Im not getting it right then...My password is correct, so is the Privacy word...
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Sandman on September 25, 2005, 09:19:32 PM
Don't forget to put SIGNOFF at the end of your message.
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Nefarious on September 25, 2005, 09:23:54 PM
Did all you said, and still not getting confirmation
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Sandman on September 25, 2005, 09:25:01 PM
Quote
Originally posted by SOB
Sandy...

Heh, well damn.  I managed to join up as Power #1 AND as Power #2.  I think I sent off about 10 emails trying to get it right, and must've doubled up somewhere in there.  Is this something you can fix, or should I figure out how to withdraw on one of 'em?

PS...your PM box is full.


I'm not sure how you did that. Once the others fill, I'll see what we can do.
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Sandman on September 25, 2005, 09:25:41 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Nefarious
Did all you said, and still not getting confirmation


It could be slow.
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Nefarious on September 25, 2005, 09:28:31 PM
If its slow I prolly regsitered 50 times :o
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Nefarious on September 25, 2005, 09:47:21 PM
<<<<
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: SOB on September 25, 2005, 09:53:37 PM
LOL, so I guess I moved to power two?  I'm confused, but that's nothing new.
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Nefarious on September 25, 2005, 10:03:42 PM
Only two so far, wheres everyone else?:D
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Tarmac on September 25, 2005, 10:45:05 PM
Did you get in, Nefarious?  I'm not getting any confirmation, either.  Sent in my registration in about 20 different formats, too.  :)
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Tarmac on September 25, 2005, 10:49:22 PM
For those that haven't played before, you need to be aware that this game is a long term deal.  Games can last 6 months.  You'll need to submit your orders a few times a week.  If you miss, you'll have a small grace period to get them in.  Either 1 day or 10 hrs if SOB's change gets implemented.  You can put the game on hold if you go on vacation or something else comes up.  

If you can't commit to the whole game, please don't play.  If you're someone who quits the first time they get backstabbed or start to lose territory, don't play.  Nothing screws up a game more than someone quitting.  So if you can't stick the game out until your last army, please don't play.
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Sandman on September 25, 2005, 10:51:17 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Tarmac
Did you get in, Nefarious?  I'm not getting any confirmation, either.  Sent in my registration in about 20 different formats, too.  :)


He's in... SOB is also in.

FORMAT

JOIN OCLUB_MODERN yourpassword privacyword(PM)
SIGNOFF
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Sandman on September 25, 2005, 10:57:05 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Tarmac
Either 1 day or 10 hrs if SOB's change gets implemented.


We'll compromise and call it 12 hours. :)
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: SOB on September 25, 2005, 11:41:29 PM
Sweet...still better than a whole day of waiting!

And to add to Tarmac's bit - if you join the game, know that you WILL get stabbed, and it WILL be by someone who swore on his Grandma's grave that he wouldn't betray you.  If that makes you get all hot under the collar, then go play solitaire instead. :)  And now I'll come clean and say that you might not actually get stabbed...but you WILL be lied to.
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Tarmac on September 26, 2005, 12:54:17 AM
Ok, got in.  DPjudge was just slow in sending the reply.
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Tarmac on September 26, 2005, 02:09:59 AM
Sweet, I just got in again!  I'm powers 3 and 5!
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: BlueJ1 on September 26, 2005, 05:25:56 AM
<<#4
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Nefarious on September 26, 2005, 06:52:14 AM
Im power 3 now, :huh
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Reschke on September 26, 2005, 10:12:58 AM
Sandman,

Drop me a PM for the privacy word please.

Thanks
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Nefarious on September 26, 2005, 11:08:51 AM
I just logged on to check the status of our game, I tried every power # available, and I cant get in  :huh

N/M im power 1 again....
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Sandman on September 26, 2005, 12:14:48 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Nefarious
I just logged on to check the status of our game, I tried every power # available, and I cant get in  :huh

N/M im power 1 again....


You'll be Power #1 until we have all ten players. Then, countries will be randomly assigned. If the power numbers jockey around, no need to fret.
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: takeda on September 26, 2005, 02:01:13 PM
I shouldn´t, but I will try this...
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Tarmac on September 26, 2005, 02:10:49 PM
Hey Sandy, why the REALTIME rule?

REAL_TIME
    If this rule is used, the game will be processed as soon as the last player submits orders (this player will have no opportunity to modify them). Additionally, players will not be allowed to direct that the game wait for any deadline before processing. This rule is used especially for games with very short deadlines (for example, 10 minutes).

Maybe I haven't thought it through, but this rule sounds like it would be pretty frustrating if you meant to change your orders at a specific time, ie lunch, and instead find that the game processed your  "interim" orders insted.  I know that I use the "wait until deadline before processing" box a lot, and I'd be screwed up without it.
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Sandman on September 26, 2005, 03:12:58 PM
Quote
Originally posted by takeda
I shouldn´t, but I will try this...


You need to activate your PM or send your email to me at: fnaqzna at gmail dot com.

And make sure you know what you're signing up for:

Quote
Originally posted by Tarmac
For those that haven't played before, you need to be aware that this game is a long term deal.  Games can last 6 months.  You'll need to submit your orders a few times a week.  If you miss, you'll have a small grace period to get them in.  Either 1 day or 10 hrs if SOB's change gets implemented.  You can put the game on hold if you go on vacation or something else comes up.  

If you can't commit to the whole game, please don't play.  If you're someone who quits the first time they get backstabbed or start to lose territory, don't play.  Nothing screws up a game more than someone quitting.  So if you can't stick the game out until your last army, please don't play.
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Sandman on September 26, 2005, 03:14:13 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Tarmac
Hey Sandy, why the REALTIME rule?

REAL_TIME
    If this rule is used, the game will be processed as soon as the last player submits orders (this player will have no opportunity to modify them). Additionally, players will not be allowed to direct that the game wait for any deadline before processing. This rule is used especially for games with very short deadlines (for example, 10 minutes).

Maybe I haven't thought it through, but this rule sounds like it would be pretty frustrating if you meant to change your orders at a specific time, ie lunch, and instead find that the game processed your  "interim" orders insted.  I know that I use the "wait until deadline before processing" box a lot, and I'd be screwed up without it.


Okay... I was thinking that more often than not, the players complain about other players using the "wait until deadline" box.

I'll remove the rule and let you guys sort that one out.
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Sandman on September 26, 2005, 03:19:07 PM
Note that diplom.org is currently unavailable. The DPjudge will continue running through the outage, at floc.net. Please use dpjudge@floc.net for all e-mail correspondence to the judge. The diplom.org domain will return shortly.
The dpjudge@diplom.org does not work.
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Tarmac on September 26, 2005, 03:21:20 PM
Thanks re: REALTIME
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Sandman on September 26, 2005, 04:24:17 PM
We need SIX more!
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: takeda on September 26, 2005, 04:46:54 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Sandman
You need to activate your PM ...


done, didn't know they were off by default. Off to read a bit about the game.
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Sandman on September 27, 2005, 10:53:56 AM
We need just four more players!
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Sandman on September 28, 2005, 12:02:05 AM
Still just four more.
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Swoop on September 28, 2005, 12:43:34 AM
Sorry, only just noticed this.

Count me in....but will need instruction.

(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/209_1081438631_swoop.gif)
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Sandman on September 28, 2005, 12:59:35 AM
PM sent.

Just three more. Somebody pressure Nash into another game. ;)


BTW... whatever happened to banana?
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Sandman on September 28, 2005, 12:15:06 PM
We've got seven players.

I'm wondering if I can change the map to standard and start with what we have.

If not, I'll create a new game and we'll go with that. If that's okay.
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Curval on September 28, 2005, 12:28:41 PM
I'll put $10 on Swoop to win.  He's never played so you gotta give me some odds.

Any takers?
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Nash on September 28, 2005, 12:34:50 PM
Heya Sand, I know I said in another thread I'd help out if you didn't have enough players.... but thinking about it today, I'm gonna be pretty busy this fall and probably don't need more distractions. Sorry m8.
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Sandman on September 28, 2005, 12:39:06 PM
No worries... I think everyone has joined except Swoop.

I've changed the map to standard. We're good to go.
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Tarmac on September 28, 2005, 12:49:09 PM
Wooohoo!!!
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Swoop on September 28, 2005, 12:54:48 PM
Er....ok, what do I do?

(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/209_1081438631_swoop.gif)
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Tarmac on September 28, 2005, 01:03:10 PM
First register here:

http://www.floc.net/dpjudge/dppd/

Then, send an email (from the address you registered with)  to dpjudge@floc.net

with this in the body:
---------------
JOIN OCLUB_MODERN yourpassword privacyword

SIGNOFF
---------------

Obviously substituting your registration password for "yourpassword" and the password sandman sent you for "privacyword"
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Swoop on September 28, 2005, 01:08:56 PM
Done.

Got some dodgy autoreply about this being a private game.

(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/209_1081438631_swoop.gif)
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Tarmac on September 28, 2005, 01:09:57 PM
Did you use the privacyword that Sandy PM'd you?
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Swoop on September 28, 2005, 01:20:27 PM
No cos he put a space in it where there shouldn't have been, I used the one you sent me instead.


And I've been assigned Germany!?!?!!


Aw man.

(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/209_1081438631_swoop.gif)
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Tarmac on September 28, 2005, 01:34:35 PM
I was going to make a big long post with lots of links, but I lost it.  I R tard.  

So here are some old threads on diplomacy, which have lots of useful links in them, plus the basic questions regarding rules.  

http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=88224&highlight=diplomacy

http://devel.diplom.org/Online/


http://www.diplomacy-archive.com/resources/strategy.htm

Any more questions, just ask here.
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Tarmac on September 28, 2005, 01:37:11 PM
Stolen from a post by banana back in the day:

---------------

http://devel.diplom.org/Online/

This link has all sorts of good stuff, especially the official Diplomacy rules. I can't stress strongly enough the need to learn the rules. It shows you exactly how to issue orders correctly.

Also, when you issue your orders and click "Submit Updates", the DPJudge will tell you if you have any invalid orders. You'll then have the chance to correct them.

Here's a good place to read about strategy:

http://www.diplomacy-archive.com/resources/strategy.htm

----------------------

the rules: http://www.avalonhill.com/rules/diplomacy.pdf
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Sandman on September 28, 2005, 01:37:55 PM
The game is on. :)
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Tarmac on September 28, 2005, 01:41:18 PM
You can also make your game auto-login by using the following link (substituting relevant information)

http://www.floc.net/dpjudge/?game=oclub_modern&power=Germany&password=poop
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Sandman on September 28, 2005, 01:46:16 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Swoop
No cos he put a space in it where there shouldn't have been, I used the one you sent me instead.


And I've been assigned Germany!?!?!!


Aw man.

 


It could be worse. You could have started out as Austria or Italy. :)
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: BlueJ1 on September 28, 2005, 01:55:47 PM
<
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Sandman on September 28, 2005, 02:00:26 PM
Quote
Originally posted by BlueJ1
<


Sorry... you've got an uphill climb in front of you.

Was the reason I was trying for the "Modern" game. There is no Austria on that map.

Maybe we'll get enough players to do that game after this one.
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Tarmac on September 28, 2005, 02:02:01 PM
Don't let your country get you down.  Remember, you're most likely going to lose anyway.  It's just a matter of how quickly it happens, and how much hope you get up before it gets crushed.  :)
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Nefarious on September 28, 2005, 06:06:13 PM
Im not sure if i like Grey Press.

But I will try it.
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: BlueJ1 on September 28, 2005, 06:09:42 PM
Its ok.
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Sandman on September 28, 2005, 06:53:55 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Nefarious
Im not sure if i like Grey Press.

But I will try it.


I don't think I've ever played a game that wasn't grey press.

It's nothing to fear.
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Nefarious on September 28, 2005, 06:59:00 PM
The last Oclub game was Not Grey Press.

But it's not bad. Im sure it will grow on me ;)
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Steve on September 28, 2005, 07:09:57 PM
I'll try to get in now!
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Sandman on September 28, 2005, 09:55:31 PM
****!

Steve didn't get in. I've got seven signed on. Steve wants in and Gunslinger said he would play.

I may have dorked this all up.

The question is... do we continue with seven or do I see if I can change it to the modern map and get one more?
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: SOB on September 28, 2005, 10:13:10 PM
It's only just begun, I say switch maps and let 'em in if you can!
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Swoop on September 28, 2005, 11:55:02 PM
yeah, more the merrier

(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/209_1081438631_swoop.gif)
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: takeda on September 29, 2005, 01:32:59 AM
Yeah, more time to read up on this... And I get to dump Italy, which I had read enough to learn it sucks :)
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Nefarious on September 29, 2005, 06:48:19 AM
Yes lets, have more!
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Sandman on September 29, 2005, 01:14:56 PM
Quote
Originally posted by takeda
Yeah, more time to read up on this... And I get to dump Italy, which I had read enough to learn it sucks :)


Italy isn't too terrible. It just takes more effort than say... Russia. ;)
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Sandman on September 29, 2005, 10:42:00 PM
Hell with it... game is on.

Steve, we'll get you in next time.

I apologize for losing count of the players. It's my fault you're not in.
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Steve on September 30, 2005, 01:00:19 AM
I guess you found out that I have won every diplomacy game I've ever played.


:cool:
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Sandman on September 30, 2005, 09:56:28 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Steve
I guess you found out that I have won every diplomacy game I've ever played.


:cool:


How many games have you played?
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Reschke on September 30, 2005, 10:40:55 AM
I have two powers assigned to me 6 & 7???? What the heck is happening?
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: takeda on September 30, 2005, 10:51:31 AM
Sorry guys, but just got laid off this morning.
It's not at all that bad, because I have a few offers already and will be up and running somewhere by next week, but it will sure upset my agenda for a while, so sadly I'll have to drop my commitment to this. :(
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Sandman on September 30, 2005, 12:34:49 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Reschke
I have two powers assigned to me 6 & 7???? What the heck is happening?


You're not a power. You're Russia.
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Sandman on September 30, 2005, 12:36:22 PM
Quote
Originally posted by takeda
Sorry guys, but just got laid off this morning.
It's not at all that bad, because I have a few offers already and will be up and running somewhere by next week, but it will sure upset my agenda for a while, so sadly I'll have to drop my commitment to this. :(


No worries. Best of luck.
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Tarmac on September 30, 2005, 12:37:18 PM
Quote
Originally posted by takeda
Sorry guys, but just got laid off this morning.
It's not at all that bad, because I have a few offers already and will be up and running somewhere by next week, but it will sure upset my agenda for a while, so sadly I'll have to drop my commitment to this. :(


Sorry to hear that, bud.  Good luck with those offers.
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Steve on September 30, 2005, 12:43:41 PM
Quote
How many games have you played?




1




Hehehehe
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Steve on September 30, 2005, 12:46:42 PM
Sorry to hear that Takeda but I'm glad you already have irons in the fire.
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Sandman on September 30, 2005, 12:58:40 PM
Steve, are you still interested in playing?

We've yet to start.
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Steve on September 30, 2005, 02:20:28 PM
yes, I'd like to play
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Sandman on September 30, 2005, 02:43:25 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Steve
yes, I'd like to play


I assume you've already registered with the DPJudge.

You'll need to send an email to the judge with the following in the body:

TAKEOVER IOCLUB_MODERN yourpassword

AFAICT, you don't need the privacy word, but if you do put that after your password.
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: BlueJ1 on September 30, 2005, 02:46:45 PM
Woot!Have all memebers needed now. Lets get this show crackalackn. :D
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Steve on September 30, 2005, 10:06:47 PM
umm I went to game and all countries assigned?
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: SOB on September 30, 2005, 10:25:38 PM
Takeda needs to send a resign email before you can take over his country.
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Sandman on October 01, 2005, 10:58:11 AM
Quote
Originally posted by SOB
Takeda needs to send a resign email before you can take over his country.


I resigned him before I posted the takeover directions for Steve.
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Sandman on October 01, 2005, 11:00:15 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Steve
umm I went to game and all countries assigned?


The only way to take over a place in the game is by using email (http://www.floc.net/dpjudge/?page=Email).

The web interface doesn't allow for it.
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Sandman on October 02, 2005, 12:02:44 PM
Steve?
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: BlueJ1 on October 02, 2005, 12:29:29 PM
:)
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Tarmac on October 04, 2005, 07:39:49 PM
A basic synopsis for anyone who is still lost.  I figured I might as well put it here since I'd already typed it out to one player.  Rather not lose it.  :)

-----

Ok, this is a basic game of "take over the world with your armies/fleets" -- similar to Risk.  Basically, you want to control Supply Centers (SC's).  For each one you have, you get a build (a new unit).  Each turn is divided into 3 phases -- spring movement, fall movement, and winter adjustments.  Movement phases are where the combat takes place.  Winter is for building and disbanding units -- you equalize the number of SC's you control with the number of units on the board.  If you control 6 SC's and have only 4 units on the board, you build 2 units.  If you control 4 SC's and have 6 units, you choose 2 units to disband.  

Combat is simple in theory, but gets more difficult the more units you have attacking every which way.  There are no dice, no luck.  2 units dislodges 1 unit -- the one would be forced to retreat or be destroyed if there are no valid places to retreat to.  1v1, 2 v 2, etc causes a "bounce" -- nobody moves.  

Here's the kicker: you can only have one unit per territory.  Since you can see from the map that each of us has only a few units to start (probably only 3), it is essential that you team up with other players.  That's where the diplomacy comes in.  You'll need to negotiate with everyone, and I mean everyone, so you have as much info as possible regarding what's going to happen the next turn.  If a player is not talking to you, they're probably plotting against you -- so keep them talking.  Regardless, they're probably still plotting against you.  :)

You give orders by typing in the text box of the DPjudge.  There are a few basic types of moves - a "move" (can be an attack if the space you're moving to is occupied or someone else is trying to move there).  Basically, you'd type "A MEX to TEX" -- this would move Army Mexico to Texas, assuming no other units blocked it.  Other important orders are holds, convoys, and supports.  Check the rules for explanations.  

Armies can move from land territory to land territory, can move over sea if there's a dotted path (like Denmark to Sweden), or can move over sea spaces by getting convoyed by fleets (see convoying rules).  

So read the rules, then head to floc.net/dpjudge and login to game oclub_modern as your power (germany).  You send presses (notes) to other players from this screen by checking their box.  Your presses are anonymous, so be sure to sign them.  Be aware that since there are anonymous presses, anything you read could be from anybody.  So you have to pay close attention to what they're saying and if it makes sense, because somebody could be messing with you.  Plus, even when it is from the right person, they could be flat out lying to you.
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Nefarious on October 04, 2005, 07:45:03 PM
I find the lack of communication rather dissapointing.  Ive been quiet, but at least I sent out a message to the European community.

Maybe everyone is against me :noid
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Sandman on October 04, 2005, 10:04:05 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Nefarious
I find the lack of communication rather dissapointing.  Ive been quiet, but at least I sent out a message to the European community.

Maybe everyone is against me :noid


Hmmm... you're England, I think.

If you are, you better find out where you stand between France and Germany.

Of France, Germany, and England only two will survive the first four to five years. In fact, one of the three will see his doom on the horizon in the next two to three moves.

IIRC, SOB was England awhile back and I was Germany. Man did he not see that one coming. :rofl
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: SOB on October 04, 2005, 10:30:22 PM
Within a couple of years I went from happy-go-lucky to hapless victim.  I ended up with Sandy's name branded into my ass, and had to work as his court jester for table scraps.  Bastard! :D
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Sandman on October 04, 2005, 10:33:00 PM
LOL... I tell ya... that was my absolute best stab ever.
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Tarmac on October 04, 2005, 10:39:06 PM
Hey, my name was branded on your bellybutton in that one too!
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Sandman on October 04, 2005, 10:46:10 PM
****! I forgot... Tarmac was France. Couldn't have done it without ya.
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Tarmac on October 04, 2005, 11:38:42 PM
:D  That one was a classic.  I was on the edge of my seat waiting for that deadline, just to see if I was getting played as badly as I thought I was playing SOB.  

Fond memories.  :)
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Sandman on October 04, 2005, 11:40:51 PM
:D You and me both. I was almost certain that you and SOB we're playing me.

Didn't you and I end that one as a draw exactly as we planned from the start? Or did I stab you at the end? Can't remember.
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Tarmac on October 04, 2005, 11:42:57 PM
SOB sure thought we were playing you.  :)

Yeah, we called a draw, and I'm still pissed that you whacked Archduke Sikboy's single army right at the end.  After all that effort to keep him alive.  :p
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Sandman on October 04, 2005, 11:48:36 PM
I had to cut Sikboy. The board lacked semetry. :)
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Sandman on October 05, 2005, 10:27:40 PM
Steve! Swoop!

Italy! Germany!


You're about to miss your first deadline.
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Swoop on October 06, 2005, 12:48:16 AM
aw nuts.

(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/209_1081438631_swoop.gif)
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Tarmac on October 06, 2005, 12:56:39 AM
You've got a grace period... still time to get them in.  That's what it's for.  :)
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Sandman on October 06, 2005, 09:23:29 AM
I've extended the grace period from 12 hours to a full day.

Until the newer players get a good handle on the game, I'll leave it at a day.
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: SOB on October 06, 2005, 09:26:07 AM
Boooooooo!
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Sandman on October 06, 2005, 09:28:27 AM
Yeah... I know SOB. I haven't forgotten that you asked for the shorter grace period.

We'll get there.
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Nefarious on October 06, 2005, 06:11:31 PM
Whats up Germany?
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Tarmac on October 06, 2005, 06:23:17 PM
He's got PM's, emails, and diplomacy messages.  Hope everything is ok.
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Sandman on October 06, 2005, 09:21:36 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Swoop
aw nuts.

(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/209_1081438631_swoop.gif)


Aw nuts?

We can't help you if you don't tell us what's holding you up.
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Nefarious on October 07, 2005, 05:03:11 PM
Well, Ill be out of town until Sunday. Just to let ya know.
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Tarmac on October 07, 2005, 07:49:53 PM
Sandy, wasn't there another person who wanted to play?  

Time to find a sub if Swoop doesn't get back to us by the time Nefarious returns.  Game momentum is gonna be dead as it is.
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: lasersailor184 on October 07, 2005, 07:57:31 PM
I'm interested in Playing.  Can I still join?  Or is it too late?
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Sandman on October 07, 2005, 09:42:04 PM
I'm going to turn off civil disorder until this sorts out.


...LaserSailor184, I'll let you know. We may need a replacement player.
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Swoop on October 08, 2005, 02:35:45 AM
Sorry fella's, hadda be out of town for a while.  

Back now.


I'm assuming the grace period is over and now it's next turn?

(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/209_1081438631_swoop.gif)
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Sandman on October 08, 2005, 04:02:35 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Swoop
Sorry fella's, hadda be out of town for a while.  

Back now.


I'm assuming the grace period is over and now it's next turn?

(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/209_1081438631_swoop.gif)


I turned civil disorder off, and you were dismissed by the judge. You'll have to send an email to takeover Germany.
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Tarmac on October 09, 2005, 11:31:47 PM
So what's the deal?  Is swoop back in, or are we finding a replacement?
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Sandman on October 10, 2005, 11:00:10 AM
Hmmm... we've spent over a week just trying to get started. At this point, Germany is open to the first person that can figure out the takeover command.
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Swoop on October 10, 2005, 01:04:11 PM
Let someone else take it, I thought I'd have the time for this but real life is exploding here right now.

I'll catch the next one in 6 months or so......

(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/209_1081438631_swoop.gif)
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Nefarious on October 10, 2005, 01:04:25 PM
Im back
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: BlueJ1 on October 10, 2005, 04:50:07 PM
Well, all this time has given me a chance to re read rules and how to play. Bet I still mess something up. :D
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Sandman on October 12, 2005, 12:25:43 AM
Bump... we need someone to take Germany. The game hasn't started yet.
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: lasersailor184 on October 12, 2005, 09:22:38 AM
I'll do it.  What do I need to do?
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Sandman on October 12, 2005, 09:27:49 AM
First register here:

http://www.floc.net/dpjudge/dppd/

Then, send an email (from the address you registered with) to dpjudge@floc.net

with this in the body:
---------------
TAKEOVER GOCLUB_MODERN yourPassword[/]

SIGNOFF
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: lasersailor184 on October 12, 2005, 09:33:03 AM
OK, I sent the email and got all registered.  What should I do now?

Wait, shouldn't it be

TAKEOVER GOCLUB_MODERN mypassword gamepassword

SIGNOFF


?
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Tarmac on October 12, 2005, 11:52:31 AM
Try both, but I don't think you need the gamepassword for a takeover command.
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Tarmac on October 12, 2005, 11:56:44 AM
Sandy's order format is correct.  From the website:

 Okay. It allows a kind, much-appreciated soul to become a map-power in a game that has already started. Which means that one of the map-powers has taken a powder and left the spot available. The command has the same syntax as SIGNON and RESIGN:
      TAKEOVER initialLetterOfPowerNamegameN ame yourPassword -or-
      TAKEOVER completePowerName@gameName yourPassword

Remember that, like the RESIGN command, the TAKEOVER command does not follow a SIGNON command but rather is used instead of a SIGNON command. It does serve the same purpose as SIGNON, in that it does sign you on to the game -- that is, you may send press in your TAKEOVER message. You are only allowed to TAKEOVER vacant map-powers. Here are the two possible ways to TAKEOVER an abandoned position as Austria:
      TAKEOVER Agamename password
      TAKEOVER austria@gamename password
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: lasersailor184 on October 12, 2005, 12:38:37 PM
Oh whoops, I'm sending it to the wrong address.
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: lasersailor184 on October 12, 2005, 12:42:25 PM
Alright, it finally worked.  Game On.


Now I just have to figure out what to do.




Alright, just reading over the newbie guide...

Any place with a dot of your color is a supply center?  How is this important?

Also, are the fleets actual fleets of boats?  They can travel the water but the armies cannot?

What are the rules to building new armies and fleets?
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Tarmac on October 12, 2005, 01:09:41 PM
The rules: http://www.avalonhill.com/rules/diplomacy.pdf

Also, skim over this thread.  I posted a very basic summary of the game on pg3, and posted a bunch of helpful strategy links on pg2.  I'd read my summary on pg 3 first, then read the rules, then read some of the strategy links.  

To answer your questions:

Supply Centers (SC) are the objective of the game.  Control more than half of them and you win.  SCs get you builds -- for every SC you control, you get to build a new army or fleet in one of your home SCs.  Lose one and you'll have to disband an army or fleet.  Basically, your SCs = # of units on the board (with some exceptions).  

Fleets are your navies, armies are your armies.  Fleets can move on water or on coastal territories.  Armies move on land only.  Armies can move over water if they're convoyed by a fleet (see the convoy order in the rules), or they can move across the dotted lines you see on the map without the aid of a fleet.
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: lasersailor184 on October 12, 2005, 01:51:57 PM
Alright, I just read over the hasbro rules thing.  I think I'm good to go.


One question though.  Can I support a foreign army?  Or can I only support my own?


Also, is the starting turn in Spring?  Or fall?  Do I have to issue build commands?  Or is it done automatically.  Is it done after the fall turn?  


Lastly, are all the orders completed at the end of the turn?  I.E. Do all the moves and attacks happen suddenly?  Or is it as I submit?
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Sandman on October 12, 2005, 01:56:33 PM
Quote
Originally posted by lasersailor184
Alright, I just read over the hasbro rules thing.  I think I'm good to go.


One question though.  Can I support a foreign army?  Or can I only support my own?


Also, is the starting turn in Spring?  Or fall?  Do I have to issue build commands?  Or is it done automatically.  Is it done after the fall turn?  


Lastly, are all the orders completed at the end of the turn?  I.E. Do all the moves and attacks happen suddenly?  Or is it as I submit?


1. There's a reason they call the game Diplomacy. Support from other countries is the only way to win.

2. The starting turn is spring. Your forces will move again in Fall.

3. The orders are completed at the end of the turn. All moves and attacks happen simultaneously.
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: lasersailor184 on October 12, 2005, 02:01:36 PM
Lastly, a list of all the people and what country they are...


Oh also, when counting the number of armies you have...


You only have the amount of SC's you own.  But does this only count SC's outside of your home?

I.E. If I move a unit off of a home SC, onto a foreign SC, do I gain one more unit?  Or not because I only have units on 3 SC's.
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: BlueJ1 on October 12, 2005, 02:05:45 PM
Greetings,

WooWoo!

Finally game time!

Sincerly,
Archduke BlueJ
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Sandman on October 12, 2005, 02:06:47 PM
Press is the key to winning. I suggest you introduce yourself to the other players and start your dialogue. You'll soon figure out who is who.
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: lasersailor184 on October 12, 2005, 02:28:16 PM
Man, I'm having fun already.
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: BlueJ1 on October 16, 2005, 06:06:14 AM
One more day!
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Tarmac on October 16, 2005, 09:47:49 AM
If someone (dunno who) would uncheck their "wait until deadline" box then we could have this turn done in 20 mins.  :)
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: SOB on October 16, 2005, 12:52:30 PM
Der uhhh, oopsy!
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: BlueJ1 on October 16, 2005, 03:55:14 PM
Umm, quick question, whats bounce mean ?
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: SOB on October 16, 2005, 04:56:20 PM
Two forces of equal strength tried to occupy the same territory, therefor they "bounced" back to their original positions.
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: lasersailor184 on October 16, 2005, 08:42:23 PM
Wait, are the build orders given during the fall turn?  Or after as a pseudo turn?
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Sandman on October 16, 2005, 10:24:21 PM
Build orders happen only during the winter.
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: lasersailor184 on October 16, 2005, 10:32:24 PM
Do enjoy not answering the questions?



After the end of this turn, there's going to be another short turn to determine build and abandon orders?


Also, who are the gnomes of zurich?
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Sandman on October 16, 2005, 10:39:09 PM
Quote
Originally posted by lasersailor184
Do enjoy not answering the questions?
 


That was the answer. In the game, much like this planet, there are seasons. It starts with spring, than summer, fall, and winter. Then, it's spring again; a neverending cycle until someone controls eighteen supply centers.

There's a spring move and a fall move. There is no move in the summer. After the fall move there is another phase called "winter adjustments".

This is all pretty basic stuff and it's all covered in the rules (http://www.wizards.com/avalonhill/rules/diplomacy.pdf).

As for the Gnomes, he's an observer.
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: lasersailor184 on October 16, 2005, 10:47:24 PM
Can you and the Gnomes see all conversations?
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Sandman on October 17, 2005, 10:05:58 AM
I don't believe that the Gnome can, but I see everything.
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: BlueJ1 on October 17, 2005, 01:48:00 PM
I see dead people.


This is tons o fun.
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: BlueJ1 on October 28, 2005, 03:29:58 PM
This is like crack, I need more...faster...
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Tarmac on October 28, 2005, 04:04:51 PM
:D

Welcome to the club.  You have arrived.
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: BlueJ1 on November 04, 2005, 05:41:31 AM
Every week its the same thing. Most all the countries have their orders in except maybe 2or 3, and we end up waiting 3-4 days for the deadline. Then we wait while they put their orders in after the deadline. Is it possible for the deadline to be shortend? This would make those last minute guys, just last minute a few days earlier.
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: BlueJ1 on November 04, 2005, 06:15:30 PM
Come on, lets get the orders through before the weekend!!!!!! Purty Please.
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Nefarious on November 04, 2005, 08:17:44 PM
No. ;)
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Sandman on November 05, 2005, 10:20:05 AM
There's a reason the game is called, "Diplomacy" and not "War".

Go "diplom" or something. ;)
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: BlueJ1 on November 05, 2005, 11:38:02 AM
I been "diplom" so much my right hand hurts. Oh wait...
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: lasersailor184 on December 13, 2005, 12:38:37 PM
Umm, I'm currently having trouble accessing the game.  Anyone else?
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Tarmac on December 13, 2005, 12:54:30 PM
Yeah, haven't been able to get in for at least 24 hours either.
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Tarmac on December 13, 2005, 03:37:56 PM
http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/dpjudge/messages/3125?viscount=-100

Server puked, you can't submit orders but the games are still processing.  They're working on it, but they don't know when it'll be back up.  

According to those posts, you can still submit email commands.  Sandy, it may be a good idea to pause the game so it doesn't go forward with no orders submitted.  I assume there's some way to rollback turns also, but don't know how much of a PITA that is.
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Sandman on December 13, 2005, 05:17:37 PM
I'll see what I can do.

I've been searching through the email commands looking for a "pause". No luck so far. When I get home, I'll just set the deadline for January 1 and change it again if the server gets moving.
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: lasersailor184 on December 13, 2005, 05:23:56 PM
It'd be great if you could at least somehow put a pause on this turn.  I never bothered to learn how to do it by email because it was all there on the web page.
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Tarmac on December 13, 2005, 06:37:38 PM
btw, the diplom.org webpage still works.  it's just the floc.net page and the dpjudge that are down.  So some of the reference stuff is still available.
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: lasersailor184 on December 13, 2005, 07:03:30 PM
Well, right now I'm studying electrical building systems.  After that I'll be studying electrical hi low pass filters.  After that I'll be studying modern architecture.


The email Diplomacy structure doesn't fit in anywhere in there.
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: SOB on December 13, 2005, 08:34:32 PM
Thanks Sandy
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Sandman on December 13, 2005, 11:14:06 PM
Well... if the judge is running, it doesn't appear to be answering emails.

I can't stop it. I sent a couple of emails to dpjudge@diplom.org and I got nothing in return.

Trying dpjudge@floc.net next.
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Sandman on December 13, 2005, 11:50:38 PM
Think I got it now.
Title: Diplomacy Game (OCLUB_MODERN) Forming
Post by: Sandman on December 15, 2005, 01:54:41 PM
Game on!

Deadline is set for Monday, 2359 Pacific time.