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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Changeup on April 21, 2014, 08:46:37 PM
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With all the talk of fights, no fights, some fights, few fights I've wondered why the DA is so avoidable for some folks when fights are so available there. 3 v 3, 1 v 1 etc etc. You can get all you want from anyone you'd like to fight, friendly or not, challenged, or just some practice with a friend.
As a squad we spend a lot of time there and unlike some people suggest, we don't do it to practice our "tricks" or use F3 or whatever other BS some avoiders use. This is not just the Muppets...its the BK's, the 80th, some AK's and even Skyrr has been known to come play. We all do it because its the only place to get an unadulterated, even fight. The only advantage the people that actually go there have is that they learn to fight and when the need arises, don't run from a fight by making laughable excuses to protect their fragile egos in the MA or the DA. They find no need to rationalize an excuse like tricks, F3, E fighting advantage, etc etc etc.
In the end, most players accept DA invitations and prove they are willing to fight or at least attempt to learn, actually end up earning some respect for fighting instead of working just as hard to come up with new and poignant excuses for their panzyness. More importantly, they make a few friends.
So, what's your excuse?
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In my experience the DA lake has been nothing but kids flying around in Temps, Spixteens and Hog 4's hoing everything and anything that gets in front of them. Nearly impossible to have a good fight unless you go to a different field and then get gate crashers who do the same even when asked to butt out.
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In my experience the DA lake has been nothing but kids flying around in Temps, Spixteens and Hog 4's hoing everything and anything that gets in front of them. Nearly impossible to have a good fight unless you go to a different field and then get gate crashers who do the same even when asked to butt out.
But for the most part, the single fields have been a good experience for you haven't they?
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In my experience the DA lake has been nothing but kids flying around in Temps, Spixteens and Hog 4's hoing everything and anything that gets in front of them. Nearly impossible to have a good fight unless you go to a different field and then get gate crashers who do the same even when asked to butt out.
Show respect. Change was in a DA squadron for a couple years or so .... or so I've been told. ;)
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:lol Changeup
I actually went to the DA the other day with a couple of gentlemen, one of which I do not have much respect for his MA flying style, however he did fight bravely, honorably, and skillfully so I commend him for that. There were nothing but salutes at the end of the session and I will be a little more reserved in my outspokenness and judgement of him in the MA next time.
And for the record to those that are unfamiliar, whenever a Muppet calls out "DA", it signifies a 1v1 deck fight at a side base, which will usually turn into multiple people joining, all of which who know the rules of engagement. F3 mode is not used, so do not be afraid that we are gaming you. All in good fun and to spice things up a bit. Next time you get called to the DA, you go, or forever lose your podium to talk a big game! :aok
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"But for the most part, the single fields have been a good experience for you haven't they?"
Yes of course
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The 242nd spends a lot of time in the DA. Furball lake is usually a cesspool but it can be fun dodging the handful of super planes.
I actually love getting challenged to the DA, even though I usually get man handled.
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Yes of course
Thank you :salute
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The 242nd spends a lot of time in the DA. Furball lake is usually a cesspool but it can be fun dodging the handful of super planes.
I actually love getting challenged to the DA, even though I usually get man handled.
:aok
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The 125th has been doing our own series of bracket fights in Death Canyon on fridays and saturdays... It usually turns into a big furball, and lately we've been getting folks asking if they can come join us. We love the DA and use it often. So if you see myself, or any other Spartan (SWcallsign) hit us up. We're always down to fight.
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The 125th has been doing our own series of bracket fights in Death Canyon on fridays and saturdays... It usually turns into a big furball, and lately we've been getting folks asking if they can come join us. We love the DA and use it often. So if you see myself, or any other Spartan (SWcallsign) hit us up. We're always down to fight.
IN.
Do you see lots of trickery and F3 moders or reasons to avoid it? Do you hear those comments when you guys get back to the MA after your sessions?
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I like to take an FM2 or F4F to the lake floor and rack up some super plane kills!
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Show respect. Change was in a DA squadron for a couple years or so .... or so I've been told. ;)
lol, good one. snortsnort That's about as classy as you've been wearing dresses for the last 13 years.
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I always felt out of place and wondered what the hell I'm trying to prove embarrassing myself this way. :noid
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I always felt out of place and wondered what the hell I'm trying to prove embarrassing myself this way. :noid
Ha!!! That's a lie!! You've beat me to death there...but you were using F3, lol
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lol, good one. snortsnort That's about as classy as you've been wearing dresses for the last 13 years.
Lmao!!
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Do you see lots of trickery and F3 moders or reasons to avoid it? Do you hear those comments when you guys get back to the MA after your sessions?
Never seen anyone accused of trickery. We get the occasional HO accusation, as that stuff happens on tight angles in a close fight. Never more than that though. Once we got accused of ganging up on some guy cuz he just jumped into our furball without asking. lol
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Never seen anyone accused of trickery. We get the occasional HO accusation, as that stuff happens on tight angles in a close fight. Never more than that though. Once we got accused of ganging up on some guy cuz he just jumped into our furball without asking. lol
Which is to be expected if you're him, lol
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Next time you get called to the DA, you go, or forever lose your podium to talk a big game! :aok
There would be a very slim chance I even knew I was called out to the DA since I pretty much ignore the text buffer (unless I start something which is... well... like... never).
Gotta run... time to step up to the big game talking podium.
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lol, good one. snortsnort That's about as classy as you've been wearing dresses for the last 13 years.
He is renowned after all, for his classiness. :rolleyes:
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So why not make a message when one switches to F3 mode. Clear it all up, wouldn't it?
IF it doesn't happen in there, or as much as ppl say they don't use it, then it shouldn't clog up chat box, right?
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If Skyyr's there, that's another reason to avoid it.
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What fascinates me about the DA is the duplicity of the environment. At the same time it caters to the gayest of the gay at fireball lake and allows true fights and toon honor to be played out on the side bases. In the profundity of universal law - balance, the legitimacy of the DA challenge is proven out.
When someone denies a challenge to the DA they prove their cowardice and their ilk. By flaking out based on the sad practices of "Furball Lake" they prove that they have never known the honor of a true fight in the DA. They prove that they are of that mold. They prove their nature is the nature of gayness because they only see the DA as it is in "Furball Lake". They have never known the higher calling of a fair fight. They are weak. They are of no account.
Only the weak refuse a fair fight in the DA.
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When someone denies a challenge to the DA they prove their cowardice and their ilk.
:lol
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::DISCLAMER:: Not work, child and or wife friendly!!!!
However, if you would like to DA and this goes for EVERY (explicit) ONE!!!
Please... find me and so I can beat the piss out of your fist with my face! Please? :neener:
Link below provided for your auditory enjoyment of our DA engagement. :devil
http://www.jukebo.com/mickey-avalon/music-clip,my-dick,x5p5zr.html
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The best is when some dude is filling up the text buffer with toughness and then trips over himself back peddling from the DA. It makes me laugh out loud.
:lol <--- similar to this
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If Skyyr's there, that's another reason to avoid it.
Why? Those kind of hate-fights are the best. They generally end up in laughing affairs where both become friends but at a minimum, you now know HOW he fights. Just like NrShida has always said...ACM is like a fingerprint. When you've fought some one enough, you recognize them in the merge or shortly thereafter. But the thing is, you DO go fight which is better than 90% of the limpwristed, sissy girls that come up with reasons to put knew planes in the set; mind you they'll never fight in them ever they'll just jackjaw excuses and reasons why they'll get you in the MA instead of going to an equal footed fighting arena.
Here is the best part. You fight and they don't. They'll go on blathering on 200 about how they'll pwn...but they're words are hollow. Just excuses...
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The best is when some dude is filling up the text buffer with toughness and then trips over himself back peddling from the DA. It makes me laugh out loud.
:lol <--- similar to this
I remember one time we were doing DA fights two guys were talking tough on text about how they were the best duo ever and no one in the arena could beat them. Me and RedBull took them up on that challenge, but all they did was continue to talk big and refused to fight us. :lol
As for the DA as a whole, I will avoid the Furball Lake as much as I can. It has become a mini-MA with nothing but people running away from 1v1's as they try to land their 2 kills, or flying around at 20K in Tempest and 4-Hogs. Heck! I even saw someone up from a base outside of furball lake so he could climb to 40K in a Brewster! :lol
Death Canyon and the side bases though are a blast!! The only fights you ever see over there are people who are willing to fight to the death. There has not been a single night where I didn't have one heck of a great time fighting at death canyon or a side base! Muppet Duels with friends, Operation Kill The Crab, or just some idiotic event like Rocket Duels are some of the most fun I have on this game!
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I remember one time we were doing DA fights two guys were talking tough on text about how they were the best duo ever and no one in the arena could beat them. Me and RedBull took them up on that challenge, but all they did was continue to talk big and refused to fight us. :lol
As for the DA as a whole, I will avoid the Furball Lake as much as I can. It has become a mini-MA with nothing but people running away from 1v1's as they try to land their 2 kills, or flying around at 20K in Tempest and 4-Hogs. Heck! I even saw someone up from a base outside of furball lake so he could climb to 40K in a Brewster! :lol
Death Canyon and the side bases though are a blast!! The only fights you ever see over there are people who are willing to fight to the death. There has not been a single night where I didn't have one heck of a great time fighting at death canyon or a side base! Muppet Duels with friends, Operation Kill The Crab, or just some idiotic event like Rocket Duels are some of the most fun I have on this game!
....this..especially operation attempt to kill the crab:)
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So, what's your excuse?
I think most people are just scared to lose. What they don't know is that some of the best friendships I have in this game came directly out of the DA. Everyone should find a way to have fun in the game, but remember, if you crash in the game you get to up a bran new ride.
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If Skyyr's there, that's another reason to avoid it.
Yep. Cuz he will pwn you. Can't learn anything from that...unless you ask.
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I think most people are just scared to lose. What they don't know is that some of the best friendships I have in this game came directly out of the DA. Everyone should find a way to have fun in the game, but remember, if you crash in the game you get to up a bran new ride.
Every DA challenge I have joined, as challenger or challenged, has resulted in a friendship.
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Yep. Cuz he will pwn you. Can't learn anything from that...unless you ask.
Lol owned by skyyrr ? :lol
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whociu strikes again
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whociu strikes again
1/10.
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Lol owned by skyyrr ? :lol
Dude.... You get pwned by me. Skyyr can kill you in his sleep.
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I couldn’t agree more ChangeUp. I have had some very challenging fights with and against your squad in the DA and it was good to be invited.
Deck merges, no HOing on the first pass (I had real difficulty with that one!) and just general good natured fights until someone exploded and rinse and repeat more often than not talking to your opponent on vox through the whole fight.
I think it sharpens you up and is a lot different from “Furball Lake”.
It is so very easy to criticise everything and become cynical about everything, especially on game because you might be mistaken for someone who genuinely enjoys it if you were to thank opponents, compliment them and generally display some modicum of manners.
If half the “tough guys” were to fight with you across a table, the macho would disappear very quickly. It is so unchallenging to talk tough across an anonymous broadband connection. Anyone can do it. Some of us have professions where we have to go in very hard very often. Aces High is a good way of treating people civilly. I can pick the crew that are not able to assert themselves in any other facet of their lives.
They’re usually the most aggressive.
Anyway, full agreement with OP – well played.
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We as a squadron used to do our trainings at DA (not TA) practice: 2 vs 2 or 4 vs 4, sometimes combination of 2 fighters vs 2 bombers + 2 escort etc. I remember we used to train Yak-9 escort for IL-2 vs 109s and 190s.
It is great arena for these purposes (much better than TA)
1. Gives "realistic" damage
2. Allows to start at "high" altitude from the begging saving time to climb.
It is especially good for squadron trainings before big events like Scenarios were you fly same type of plane vs other type of plane that you don't usually see at MA like F4F vs A6M2
Dueling itself isn't that interesting IMHO, because sometimes at MA you can have much more interesting setups.
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all this talk of shadow like you guys are humping him.
He has the dedication / determination / competitive spirit to improve. Will be interesting to see if he can reach Middy's 5% before I did but he shades things up and has probably been playing for much longer than he attests too. ;)
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Ah the DA, great with the right people, JG5 and 133RAF have has most good times in there.
The cess pool is probably the worst part. Thankfully isolated from the other fields.
Although the lake can be shut down with a single C202, but then you are left begging squadmates to up.
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Will be interesting to see if he can reach Middy's 5% before I did but he shades things up and has probably been playing for much longer than he attests too. ;)
There was no mention of midway nor did/does anyone care about the '5%', why egg him on? I don't understand the logic here, bruv.
You've said yourself you hate the way midway sucks up to you, yet you yourself bring him up for no valid reason, begging him to come in here and do what he does best, just to annoy others.
I just don't see why someone Would consistently egg on that which he says he dislikes... Just saying...
Carry on, thread :)
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Best place to practice in a 38 and 47. Let them have the plane advantage and E advantage.
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There was no mention of midway nor did/does anyone care about the '5%' you're talking about, why egg him on? I don't understand the logic here, bruv.
You've said yourself you hate the way midway sucks up to you, yet you yourself bring him up for no valid reason, as if you miss his ankle humping since he's been gone/less active the past few months...
I just don't see why someone Would consistently egg on that which he says he dislikes... Just saying...
Carry on, thread :)
Must you discuss me, redbull? I neither "suck up" nor do any "humping" as you put it. I admire and respect pilots of great skill and strength of character like Bruv. Must you be jumping on me for being nice, respectful, and in awe of said pilot's awesome skills?
Consider that I have never ever downed him in a 1 v 1 after hundreds of attempts, whereas i've downed you dozens of times in less attempts. :joystick:
Do you now see why i admire said triple TOC winner's awesome skills? :)
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My point = Proven. :)
Carry on :aok
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My point = Proven. :)
Carry on :aok
As is mine.
Carry on :salute
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Stop pointing out the obvious Red.
:old:
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lol, good one. snortsnort That's about as classy as you've been wearing dresses for the last 13 years.
Off, Fifi (shake, shake). :D
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F-3 mode is used in the DA by most who come there no matter how much the say they don't. That is how they make those fantastic deflection shots in there you never see in the MA or move at just the right time to avoid your fire.
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F-3 mode is used in the DA by most who come there no matter how much the say they don't. That is how they make those fantastic deflection shots in there you never see in the MA or move at just the right time to avoid your fire.
oooooooorrrrrrr, maybe they just have good aim, ACM, and SA??? :headscratch:
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F-3 mode is used in the DA by most who come there no matter how much the say they don't. That is how they make those fantastic deflection shots in there you never see in the MA or move at just the right time to avoid your fire.
You've been saying exactly the same thing without variation or evidence for as long as I've been here like a tragically broken record or the last remaining member of the Flat Earth Society.
I flew the lake non-stop for years, blind, under the nose shots and extraordinary angle deflection shots account for at least half of my shots and I do not use F3. I can do it MA / DA doesn't matter. Any instinctive stick can sense the moment the opponent is going to fire, you don't need F3 for that either.
Just because YOU can't do these things doesn't mean others can't.
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F-3 mode is used in the DA by most who come there no matter how much the say they don't. That is how they make those fantastic deflection shots in there you never see in the MA or move at just the right time to avoid your fire.
Did you know that film viewer records other players' recorded views? If they use f3 you can see. I doubt you have checked this, not much to gain by checking is there.
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Did you know that film viewer records other players' recorded views? If they use f3 you can see. I doubt you have checked this, not much to gain by checking is there.
No, this is wrong, it projects your recorded views onto their aircraft. At least it does on my film viewer.
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Record it and go see for yourself I know what I know and F-3 is how they see you even if your are under and behind them at close range. I am sure I would have saw the same magic worked in the MA after 7 years in here. Plus why do you never see the same DA super aces have the same success in the DA? :headscratch:
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F-3 mode is used in the DA by most who come there no matter how much the say they don't. That is how they make those fantastic deflection shots in there you never see in the MA or move at just the right time to avoid your fire.
Why worry about such nonsense. I simply do not understand those that allow fear of losing to manufacture such reasons. There are so many that claim this as a reason for their reluctance and fear. It's a game...or maybe, like one or two specific folks, it's all they have, therefore they need excuses.
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Record it and go see for yourself I know what I know and F-3 is how they see you even if your are under and behind them at close range. I am sure I would have saw the same magic worked in the MA after 7 years in here. Plus why do you never see the same DA super aces have the same success in the DA? :headscratch:
You haven't fought them because you don't go to the DA
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Did you know that film viewer records other players' recorded views?
It doesn't. :old:
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What fascinates me about the DA is the duplicity of the environment. At the same time it caters to the gayest of the gay at fireball lake and allows true fights and toon honor to be played out on the side bases. In the profundity of universal law - balance, the legitimacy of the DA challenge is proven out.
When someone denies a challenge to the DA they prove their cowardice and their ilk. By flaking out based on the sad practices of "Furball Lake" they prove that they have never known the honor of a true fight in the DA. They prove that they are of that mold. They prove their nature is the nature of gayness because they only see the DA as it is in "Furball Lake". They have never known the higher calling of a fair fight. They are weak. They are of no account.
Only the weak refuse a fair fight in the DA.
THIS^^^^^^
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It doesn't. :old:
You have to get your opponents film and it DOES have it
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I remember not being able to get Jayro to come to the field away from the cess pool.
He was obsessed with being at the lake in a F4U4 at x number of thousand feet, proclaiming I was the dirtbag for not chasing after his "speshul" self.
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You have to get your opponents film and it DOES have it
But that's not what grizz said. He said you can see the views the other player is using in your own film, which you can't. :)
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Record it and go see for yourself I know what I know and F-3 is how they see you even if your are under and behind them at close range. I am sure I would have saw the same magic worked in the MA after 7 years in here. Plus why do you never see the same DA super aces have the same success in the DA? :headscratch:
I don't need to record anything, I already know all about it. I have plenty of films of my own shots which I'm sure you would swear were F3 shots because of your own rigidity and limitations.
You said MOST, and you always say MOST. I know a minority do they even tell me. There's still a lot of H2H guys in there. Everything they gain in view they lose in other areas such as loss of instrumentation. This fact is also consistently glossed over. Your tragic compulsion to state this whenever this topic comes up is bordering on obsession and exactly the point the OP was making.
Use the Furball lake for the useful arena it is and stop b**ching about F3. You should never allow yourself to get into a position where F3 would make a difference to the fight in the first place.
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You haven't fought them because you don't go to the DA
I don't go to the DA because of F-3. It would interesting to have no F-3 in the DA for a month and see if all the DA super aces have the same success without it. I wanted to fly in the DA when I first got in this game to learn but you can't learn when you have an outside view in F-3. That does not translate into the MA where everything is a cockpit view. You guys who like the DA have at it it is you $14.95 but that kind of thing is not for me.
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R105 I have never used F3 in the DA during any duel, and I'll happily duel you.
I'll even film it live with my software and put it on youtube if you so desire.
You'll see how those shots that get made under the nose are set up and made in real time ;)
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I don't go to the DA because of F-3. It would interesting to have no F-3 in the DA for a month and see if all the DA super aces have the same success without it. I wanted to fly in the DA when I first got in this game to learn but you can't learn when you have an outside view in F-3. That does not translate into the MA where everything is a cockpit view. You guys who like the DA have at it it is you $14.95 but that kind of thing is not for me.
I've seen you in there, complaining about F3 on '1 All' :lol
I had little trouble going from DA to MA. The only adjustment I had to make is that MA pilots typically do not fight to the death but until they lose their advantage, and then escape and two: that the gangs were far more organized and better communicating in the MA.
The same magnitude of lameness can be found in both places. The rest is just snobbery.
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I don't need to record anything, I already know all about it. I have plenty of films of my own shots which I'm sure you would swear were F3 shots because of your own rigidity and limitations.
You said MOST, and you always say MOST. I know a minority do they even tell me. There's still a lot of H2H guys in there. Everything they gain in view they lose in other areas such as loss of instrumentation. This fact is also consistently glossed over. Your tragic compulsion to state this whenever this topic comes up is bordering on obsession and exactly the point the OP was making.
Use the Furball lake for the useful arena it is and stop b**ching about F3. You should never allow yourself to get into a position where F3 would make a difference to the fight in the first place.
Using F-3 is like aiming a garden hose you just turn it on an adjust it to the target except it is cannon rounds and not water and is an advantage.
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Using F-3 is like aiming a garden hose you just turn it on an adjust it to the target except it is cannon rounds and not water and is an advantage.
So you keep saying. If you put the same effort into your ACM as you do complaining about F3 being the reason they are so uber, you wouldn't be in that position for it to matter.
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But that's not what grizz said. He said you can see the views the other player is using in your own film, which you can't. :)
I understood what he meant to say. It's safe to assume Grizz knows how the DA works Lusche. As well as you know graphs ;)
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Using F-3 is like aiming a garden hose you just turn it on an adjust it to the target except it is cannon rounds and not water and is an advantage.
An excuse. Just say it for Christs sake. Even if you got beat by someone that did use F3, don't TRY to get better!!! Just keep failing. Sheesh. You and FlyinFinn....
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I can do better than that I can just stay out of the DA all together where I can get gamed. I am sorry I have no confidence in the word of the DA crowd about F-3 because it would be a great place to learn otherwise and I would love to make use of it. Every time I go back in there I get disappointed but I did have fun in the canyons with some of the guys like copperhead. We were all on the same channel and everyone followed agreed to rules and I did just fine.
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I can do better than that I can just stay out of the DA all together where I can get gamed. I am sorry I have no confidence in the word of the DA crowd about F-3 because it would be a great place to learn otherwise and I would love to make use of it. Every time I go back in there I get disappointed but I did have fun in the canyons with some of the guys like copperhead. We were all on the same channel and everyone followed agreed to rules and I did just fine.
Get gamed is an extreme disservice to the numerous skilled sticks that fly there. But by all means, don't let a reality check snap you out of your self-protective cacoon.
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I can do better than that I can just stay out of the DA all together where I can get gamed. I am sorry I have no confidence in the word of the DA crowd about F-3 because it would be a great place to learn otherwise and I would love to make use of it. Every time I go back in there I get disappointed but I did have fun in the canyons with some of the guys like copperhead. We were all on the same channel and everyone followed agreed to rules and I did just fine.
You cannot do better than that. Period. Stop rationalizing. Ask the best sticks in the game. There is not a better learning environment.
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I can't even fly in F3 mode. I get too disoriented. I can't tell at all when I've hit the top of my loop for instance.
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I admit to using F3 when landing my helicopter in a tight LZ on Arma 3. :o
In this game however, it is just a bogeyman.. :old:
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Get gamed is an extreme disservice to the numerous skilled sticks that fly there. But by all means, don't let a reality check snap you out of your self-protective cacoon.
Nrshida being one of said skilled pilots. :old:
I still remember, very fondly, the day that he saw me over the DA lake fighting (and flying) poorly. Nrshida then was so nice as to offer to take me to a private field and teach me some basic flying skills. He spent much time with me, was super nice and pointed me to some things to read up on.
Following his every instruction, I admit I was in awe of him, especially since he was a member of The Few, which I had heard was the BEST squad in Aces High. For a member of The Few to take the time to be so nice to me, a nooby, was just awesome. My eyes start watering thinking about it again. :cry
I have a special place in my heart for Nrshida for this reason, and always will. :)
I was so honoured that he would take his time and be so nice to someone just out of the goodness of his heart. :aok
Nrshida, I <3 you for that moment and making me feel special and welcome. :salute
May others be as blessed one day as I was on that special day. :cheers:
Nrshida, :rock
PS: I will never let time nor events come between Nrshida and me and our special time together no matter what has happened since he and The Few parted. To me, Nrshida will always be a member of The Few and their great tradition and niceness.
PSS: I still, to this day, see him flying in front of me in a clear blue sky leading me through a chandel. Blue skies to you always, Nrshida. I mean that with all sincerity.
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Sorry Redbul, I guess I did bring it up with the whociu comment. Although that was prolly missed by both, the guy who gave me 1/10 not even knowing the reference and :uhoh
never seen so much hey I'm a nice guy help me, bam dagger in ya. Or have we? :noid
Killing bad guys from alt adv and running off to reset in LW planes is not pwning anyone.
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worrying about F3 view is laughable...sorry R105....that's a lame excuse not to go...anyone worth his salt will not be in F3 :aok
and those that use it will have no ACM knowledge and will still be easy to kill....(for the most part)
been flying in AH since tour 52....so many DA fights it would be impossible to count them....
never have I used F3.
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Just my two cents...
I have really enjoyed my time in the DA. I am no where near a skilled fighter pilot, and get my butt handed to me on a frequent basis. However, I have learned alot about ACM participating in Kill the Crab, and have noticed the general good banter both on VOX and in the text buffer. I generally avoid the lake, and fly in death canyon. My point being, if you are flying in the DA, and a few squaddies and maybe a couple "old school" players about, a good fight and good time can be had.
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Nrshida being one of said skilled pilots. :old:
I still remember, very fondly, the day that he saw me over the DA lake fighting (and flying) poorly. Nrshida then was so nice as to offer to take me to a private field and teach me some basic flying skills. He spent much time with me, was super nice and pointed me to some things to read up on.
Following his every instruction, I admit I was in awe of him, especially since he was a member of The Few, which I had heard was the BEST squad in Aces High. For a member of The Few to take the time to be so nice to me, a nooby, was just awesome. My eyes start watering thinking about it again. :cry
I have a special place in my heart for Nrshida for this reason, and always will. :)
I was so honoured that he would take his time and be so nice to someone just out of the goodness of his heart. :aok
Nrshida, I <3 you for that moment and making me feel special and welcome. :salute
May others be as blessed one day as I was on that special day. :cheers:
Nrshida, :rock
PS: I will never let time nor events come between Nrshida and me and our special time together no matter what has happened since he and The Few parted. To me, Nrshida will always be a member of The Few and their great tradition and niceness.
I'll be perfectly honest with you Midway. After my son was born prematurely I was away from the game and normal life for three months - and it was a hard three months. I watched four premature babies die in our ward and thought ours was going to die on two occasions. I watched him puffed up on Morphine one night on a ventilator waiting for it. Sat up all night, couldn't look away. Life was no longer care-free nor relaxed. Everything was pressure, consequential and important.
When we came home and I was able to return to flying I embraced it as a sort of normalcy, something to balance my recent experiences. I also decided to try and learn some other aircraft and was derping around one night in a Bf109G-14 with a drop tank and everything. I ran into your high Spitfire Mk IX three times on climb-out initially afk I think. The first two times sub-e, heavy, unprepared and trying to fly the 109 like my Ki-84 I was slaughtered as one might expect.
Then you wrote on 200: 'I remember, when you taught me how to Immelmann. Now I can pwn you at will'. There were even comments from other players, telling you to steady on. The third fight went less well as I got a better position and you tore your own wings off in a very high G turn. Do you remember that incident?
Well I felt very betrayed and offended by what you said and regretted helping you to the point where I haven't helped anyone since.
It took me a year to piece my life and flying back together after the premature birth of Tiny Shida. I don't know that I've forgiven what I considered a rude and undeserved comment that evening. I have naturally learned a lot about other people through this game, what they think, how they think.
What I still find fascinating however about this activity, above all, is what you learn about yourself. Your comments bugged me enough to look into myself and see why. Since that night I have done nothing but disassemble and reassemble my ACM. I learned to not care about performance, the result, the victor or the loser. I no longer value shooting an opponent in a skill-v-skill fight. I discovered something more rewarding. That one learns more through defeat than victory, how to research and develop my own ACM, how to advance my technique, how to approach this activity with a sport psychologically.
I fly now with a liberation and serenity I never had before. I don't care to be quantified or evaluated against another pilot. AH flying is for me the Zen activity I wanted it to be. I am centred, alone, content.
So ironically I have learned more from you, than you ever did from me.
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Just my two cents...
I have really enjoyed my time in the DA. I am no where near a skilled fighter pilot, and get my butt handed to me on a frequent basis. However, I have learned alot about ACM participating in Kill the Crab, and have noticed the general good banter both on VOX and in the text buffer. I generally avoid the lake, and fly in death canyon. My point being, if you are flying in the DA, and a few squaddies and maybe a couple "old school" players about, a good fight and good time can be had.
So have you seen, like polluted others, any unfair advantages other than what you would expect?
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I'll be perfectly honest with you Midway. After my son was born prematurely I was away from the game and normal life for three months - and it was a hard three months. I watched four premature babies die in our ward and thought ours was going to die on two occasions. I watched him puffed up on Morphine one night on a ventilator waiting for it. Sat up all night, couldn't look away. Life was no longer care-free nor relaxed. Everything was pressure, consequential and important.
When we came home and I was able to return to flying I embraced it as a sort of normalcy, something to balance my recent experiences. I also decided to try and learn some other aircraft and was derping around one night in a Bf109G-14 with a drop tank and everything. I ran into your high Spitfire Mk IX three times on climb-out initially afk I think. The first two times sub-e, heavy, unprepared and trying to fly the 109 like my Ki-84 I was slaughtered as one might expect.
Then you wrote on 200: 'I remember, when you taught me how to Immelmann. Now I can pwn you at will'. There were even comments from other players, telling you to steady on. The third fight went less well as I got a better position and you tore your own wings off in a very high G turn. Do you remember that incident?
Well I felt very betrayed and offended by what you said and regretted helping you to the point where I haven't helped anyone since.
It took me a year to piece my life and flying back together after the premature birth of Tiny Shida. I don't know that I've forgiven what I considered a rude and undeserved comment that evening. I have naturally learned a lot about other people through this game, what they think, how they think.
What I still find fascinating however about this activity, above all, is what you learn about yourself. Your comments bugged me enough to look into myself and see why. Since that night I have done nothing but disassemble and reassemble my ACM. I learned to not care about performance, the result, the victor or the loser. I no longer value shooting an opponent in a skill-v-skill fight. I discovered something more rewarding. That one learns more through defeat than victory, how to research and develop my own ACM, how to advance my technique, how to approach this activity with a sport psychologically.
I fly now with a liberation and serenity I never had before. I don't care to be quantified or evaluated against another pilot. AH flying is for me the Zen activity I wanted it to be. I am centred, alone, content.
So ironically I have learned more from you, than you ever did from me.
That is the essence of Midway Shida and that is why his words are, have always been, and will forever be hollow. Pandering to the vacant-minded for approval with the drought-filled sensitivity to the game.
There's an old-school baseballism....you don't just respect the players, you respect the game. He feigns both for the approval of the masses much like a few come to the rescue of others from their BBS idiocy.
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well said shida.
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:lol
you have to admit as much, snail... you've been top ranked, and yet I nor anyone I know has any idea of your abilities in an equal 1 vs 1... curiosity deserves as much... :aok
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I've committed genocide on 100's of snails in my back garden. Nobody tell him! :old:
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all this talk of shadow
who is shadow?
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F-3 mode is used in the DA by most who come there no matter how much the say they don't. That is how they make those fantastic deflection shots in there you never see in the MA or move at just the right time to avoid your fire.
you are completely wrong about this assumption... f3 mode is a hamperance... I can find no good reason for it... unless you are in a bomber, it is absolutely useless...
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who is shadow?
shadow was skyrr's FA nick
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who is shadow?
skyyr's ID from 12 years ago. ;)
and he was a naughty boy back then too.
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But that's not what grizz said. He said you can see the views the other player is using in your own film, which you can't. :)
Gah. My mistake then. R-105 if you ever want to mix it up in the DA, feel free to come sometime and we can send you a zip file of all our sorties and you can review with a fine toothed comb to see if we used F3 mode.
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who is shadow?
Skyrr....who happened to have a very rough night last night ;) :rofl and who seems to have quieted down quite a bit over the last few weeks.
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I can't even fly in F3 mode. I get too disoriented. I can't tell at all when I've hit the top of my loop for instance.
and this says it all... it is completely worthless and would only be helpful in a plane that had no views...
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LESS WHINING..MORE DYEING!! JUST CHILL AND KILL!! :devil :cheers: it's a game and you Allllllllllllll are my friends..that helps keep my ego in check.:) F3?? Personally if you want to use it against me in DA..more power to Ya..
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Skyrr....who happened to have a very rough night last night ;) :rofl and who seems to have quieted down quite a bit over the last few weeks.
how did he have a rough night?
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how did he have a rough night?
He got kilt repeatedly
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I'll be perfectly honest with you Midway. After my son was born prematurely I was away from the game and normal life for three months - and it was a hard three months. I watched four premature babies die in our ward and thought ours was going to die on two occasions. I watched him puffed up on Morphine one night on a ventilator waiting for it. Sat up all night, couldn't look away. Life was no longer care-free nor relaxed. Everything was pressure, consequential and important.
When we came home and I was able to return to flying I embraced it as a sort of normalcy, something to balance my recent experiences. I also decided to try and learn some other aircraft and was derping around one night in a Bf109G-14 with a drop tank and everything. I ran into your high Spitfire Mk IX three times on climb-out initially afk I think. The first two times sub-e, heavy, unprepared and trying to fly the 109 like my Ki-84 I was slaughtered as one might expect.
Then you wrote on 200: 'I remember, when you taught me how to Immelmann. Now I can pwn you at will'. There were even comments from other players, telling you to steady on. The third fight went less well as I got a better position and you tore your own wings off in a very high G turn. Do you remember that incident?
Well I felt very betrayed and offended by what you said and regretted helping you to the point where I haven't helped anyone since.
It took me a year to piece my life and flying back together after the premature birth of Tiny Shida. I don't know that I've forgiven what I considered a rude and undeserved comment that evening. I have naturally learned a lot about other people through this game, what they think, how they think.
What I still find fascinating however about this activity, above all, is what you learn about yourself. Your comments bugged me enough to look into myself and see why. Since that night I have done nothing but disassemble and reassemble my ACM. I learned to not care about performance, the result, the victor or the loser. I no longer value shooting an opponent in a skill-v-skill fight. I discovered something more rewarding. That one learns more through defeat than victory, how to research and develop my own ACM, how to advance my technique, how to approach this activity with a sport psychologically.
I fly now with a liberation and serenity I never had before. I don't care to be quantified or evaluated against another pilot. AH flying is for me the Zen activity I wanted it to be. I am centred, alone, content.
So ironically I have learned more from you, than you ever did from me.
Very well said Shida..... if this doesnt cause Midway to reconsider his ways.... then there is truly no hope for him ever gaining the respect he so desperately seeks.
:salute Nishizawa
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I'll be perfectly honest with you Midway. After my son was born prematurely I was away from the game and normal life for three months - and it was a hard three months. I watched four premature babies die in our ward and thought ours was going to die on two occasions. I watched him puffed up on Morphine one night on a ventilator waiting for it. Sat up all night, couldn't look away. Life was no longer care-free nor relaxed. Everything was pressure, consequential and important.
When we came home and I was able to return to flying I embraced it as a sort of normalcy, something to balance my recent experiences. I also decided to try and learn some other aircraft and was derping around one night in a Bf109G-14 with a drop tank and everything. I ran into your high Spitfire Mk IX three times on climb-out initially afk I think. The first two times sub-e, heavy, unprepared and trying to fly the 109 like my Ki-84 I was slaughtered as one might expect.
Then you wrote on 200: 'I remember, when you taught me how to Immelmann. Now I can pwn you at will'. There were even comments from other players, telling you to steady on. The third fight went less well as I got a better position and you tore your own wings off in a very high G turn. Do you remember that incident?
Well I felt very betrayed and offended by what you said and regretted helping you to the point where I haven't helped anyone since.
It took me a year to piece my life and flying back together after the premature birth of Tiny Shida. I don't know that I've forgiven what I considered a rude and undeserved comment that evening. I have naturally learned a lot about other people through this game, what they think, how they think.
What I still find fascinating however about this activity, above all, is what you learn about yourself. Your comments bugged me enough to look into myself and see why. Since that night I have done nothing but disassemble and reassemble my ACM. I learned to not care about performance, the result, the victor or the loser. I no longer value shooting an opponent in a skill-v-skill fight. I discovered something more rewarding. That one learns more through defeat than victory, how to research and develop my own ACM, how to advance my technique, how to approach this activity with a sport psychologically.
I fly now with a liberation and serenity I never had before. I don't care to be quantified or evaluated against another pilot. AH flying is for me the Zen activity I wanted it to be. I am centred, alone, content.
So ironically I have learned more from you, than you ever did from me.
That is good, I think. I too have dealt with severe tragedies but won't go into them... and understand that a comment by someone at the wrong time can, unbeknown to the person making the comment, be taken the wrong way. 99% of the time silly game comments are meaningless or carry very little weight, but occasionally one has more impact than it should. I apologize to you, Nrshida, for having said that to you at that moment in time. I did not know.
I will tell you that I sincerely love you in a human way for your kindness and strongly empathize with the difficulties you've had to deal with. Almost everyone will during some point in their life deal with severe loss and tragedy. Some earlier than others and some more than others.
I won't let comments here from anyone, or let any event here for that matter, affect me when I know they are not related to other real life events.
If I were there with you in real life, I would be the first to do what I can to help. I've been through very sad and difficult situations myself and expect to see more of them over time. But the opposite is also true and make dealing with the difficult events worth it.
Know that I am very sincere in my appreciation of you, wish you would not have had to deal with tragedy, and wish for that moment I would have said nothing, had I known.
I hope nothing but the best for you, always.
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Very well said Shida..... if this doesnt cause Midway to reconsider his ways.... then there is truly no hope for him ever gaining the respect he so desperately seeks.
:salute Nishizawa
Nishizawa, your premise is incorrect. :)
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I'll be perfectly honest with you Midway. After my son was born prematurely I was away from the game and normal life for three months - and it was a hard three months. I watched four premature babies die in our ward and thought ours was going to die on two occasions. I watched him puffed up on Morphine one night on a ventilator waiting for it. Sat up all night, couldn't look away. Life was no longer care-free nor relaxed. Everything was pressure, consequential and important.
When we came home and I was able to return to flying I embraced it as a sort of normalcy, something to balance my recent experiences. I also decided to try and learn some other aircraft and was derping around one night in a Bf109G-14 with a drop tank and everything. I ran into your high Spitfire Mk IX three times on climb-out initially afk I think. The first two times sub-e, heavy, unprepared and trying to fly the 109 like my Ki-84 I was slaughtered as one might expect.
Then you wrote on 200: 'I remember, when you taught me how to Immelmann. Now I can pwn you at will'. There were even comments from other players, telling you to steady on. The third fight went less well as I got a better position and you tore your own wings off in a very high G turn. Do you remember that incident?
Well I felt very betrayed and offended by what you said and regretted helping you to the point where I haven't helped anyone since.
It took me a year to piece my life and flying back together after the premature birth of Tiny Shida. I don't know that I've forgiven what I considered a rude and undeserved comment that evening. I have naturally learned a lot about other people through this game, what they think, how they think.
What I still find fascinating however about this activity, above all, is what you learn about yourself. Your comments bugged me enough to look into myself and see why. Since that night I have done nothing but disassemble and reassemble my ACM. I learned to not care about performance, the result, the victor or the loser. I no longer value shooting an opponent in a skill-v-skill fight. I discovered something more rewarding. That one learns more through defeat than victory, how to research and develop my own ACM, how to advance my technique, how to approach this activity with a sport psychologically.
I fly now with a liberation and serenity I never had before. I don't care to be quantified or evaluated against another pilot. AH flying is for me the Zen activity I wanted it to be. I am centred, alone, content.
So ironically I have learned more from you, than you ever did from me.
I disagree...you didn't "learn" that from mid....but yourself...it just happened to be a mouthy tard that made you look further into yourself.... :salute
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I disagree...you didn't "learn" that from mid....but yourself...it just happened to be a mouthy tard that made you look further into yourself.... :salute
I am not a tard. I am a human being. A bit mouthy, true, but not a tard, whatever that is. :)
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Nishizawa, your premise is incorrect. :)
Seek and recognize truth.... even when it hurts. :old: enough about you...back on topic.
:salute Nishizawa
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Seek and recognize truth.... even when it hurts. :old: enough about you...back on topic.
:salute Nishizawa
Indeed. :aok
:salute
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I think the problem is that most people in the game DO get over inflated egos in the MA doing what they do and know that if they go the the DA with the Muppet type guys they'll get their feelings hurt. In order for someone to go to these DA fights one has to absolutely leave the ego and attitude at the door, and realise that dieing repeatedly is just part of the learning process. Unfortunately most players find a comfort zone in their habits and don't want to leave that place.
I for one have never used F3 or that hack you call "track IR" :angel:
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Being back on subject now, to further accentuate the point of this thread, only the people that go to the DA have posted here. The absence of the naysayers (with the exception of R105) is proof of their abject fear of having their egos smashed.
But they'll continue their lame excuses on 200 and they'll continue to run to the safety of their gaming-the-game claim, forever cementing their persona to one of fear, rationization and false confidence. How small.
So when you see them on 200, don't forget what it looks like.
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First, midway, you are rude and a troll. That's my only comment to you.
nrshida, I remember what you went through, being one of the folks that you respected enough to update on little shida's progress, and i felt your worry and pain. I also rejoiced with you when he went home and am still thanking God for his growth and good health. Shida, I would not still be playing this game if it weren't for your teaching and good will. Thank you!
The ONLY good thing about the DA is the private areas. The lake is a cesspool of wannabes and no-talent Hoers and pickers. They would all ruin a wet dream. They cant even stay out of private fights in the private areas. Pfffffffffft on the DA. It could go away and the game would be better for it.
As I continue to fly in the LW MA, I am growing more pragmatic about the way others fly (or play the game). I don't let runners, ack hiders or anything else bother me, because the truth is, if I get killed, it's MY fault. I work to improve. I also notice that if I send a good willed PM to opponents, I generally get good willed replies and often they up again for another fight. Isn't that novel? Others should give it a try....good will never hurt anyone, and benefits the entire game.
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I miss school.
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He got kilt repeatedly
It is called experimenting with new planes/techniques. Don't get your hopes up. His dying repeatedly won't be a trend.
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F3?? Personally if you want to use it against me in DA..more power to Ya..
that's the ticket! f3 offers no real advantage in a 1v1... the ones using it as an excuse all the while puffing their chest are the best entertainment... only slightly eclipsed by them calling you bs when you kill them from a disadvantage...
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It is called experimenting with new planes/techniques. Don't get your hopes up. His dying repeatedly won't be a trend.
Please don't bore me with this drivel. There are many many like him and none have had success at the highest levels espousing his style of fight. None. Zero. Can he smack some noobs around foolish enough to follow him up? Surely. If you and he measure success that way, then consider yourselves successful.
And BTW, rationalizing for him is weak. The DA is for experimentation and learning along with the TA.
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I found the ones that wont go to DA are most often found in the MA in a huge green hourd.... in a crappy P40 bragging about how awesome they are because they fly a P40 in the MA. :rolleyes:
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
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It is called experimenting with new planes/techniques. Don't get your hopes up. His dying repeatedly won't be a trend.
do we have another bruv/midway fling in the works here? hehe
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do we have another bruv/midway fling in the works here? hehe
it's already been consumated...
:noid
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Being back on subject now, to further accentuate the point of this thread, only the people that go to the DA have posted here. The absence of the naysayers (with the exception of R105) is proof of their abject fear of having their egos smashed.
I have never been to the DA and if someone is playing and having fun in the main arena why should he/she go to the DA at once when invited? Who is more concerned about their ego: the one who keeps on having fun and playing in the MA or the one who gets shot down and invites another player to the DA to have a "proper fight"? I read about the F3 view in this thread and not so long ago there was a topic about people using diving from altitude to have more energy when they merge at an agreed altitude in the DA.
If DA is your thing please do invite people there with you, but don`t always expect them to say yes. I have a feeling that an open invitation is a lot more promising. What are the chances that if someone adresses you directly you are going to play someone else`s game with questionable fairness for awhile until someone`s bruised ego gets recovered?
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Please don't bore me with this drivel. There are many many like him and none have had success at the highest levels espousing his style of fight. None. Zero. Can he smack some noobs around foolish enough to follow him up? Surely. If you and he measure success that way, then consider yourselves successful.
And BTW, rationalizing for him is weak. The DA is for experimentation and learning along with the TA.
There have been none like him. The guy is on another level with this stuff.
Laugh all you want. I am just thankful to have someone like him to learn from.
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do we have another bruv/midway fling in the works here? hehe
You sound jealous.
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I have a suspicion that the loudest f3 whiners are the ones that use it the most and assume you are using it as well but are just better at it.
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I have a suspicion that the loudest f3 whiners are the ones that use it the most and assume you are using it as well but are just better at it.
You mean like those in the MA crying "spies! cheat! treason!" the most? ;)
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Dude.... You get pwned by me. Skyyr can kill you in his sleep.
:rofl Never happened. I don't even know who you are.
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Basically it took multiple pages to learn what is already known by the majority, which is those that use F3 as an excuse not to go to the DA are eunuchs.
ack-ack
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:rofl Never happened. I don't even know who you are.
Denial ain't a river in Egypt.
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You mean like those in the MA crying "spies! cheat! treason!" the most? ;)
Yes. A deceitful person naturally suspects everybody else of deceit.
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Denial ain't a river in Egypt.
Apparently it's the street you live on.
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Apparently it's the street you live on.
Only because all my neighbors are like you...
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Only because all my neighbors are like you...
Having extremely good looking neighbors is a good thing.
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There have been none like him. The guy is on another level with this stuff.
Laugh all you want. I am just thankful to have someone like him to learn from.
EAce flies EXACTLY like your hero. I'm not laughing at all. I feel sorry for you that you're buying what he's selling. As for Skyrr being on another level? Not even close.
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I have never been to the DA and if someone is playing and having fun in the main arena why should he/she go to the DA at once when invited? Who is more concerned about their ego: the one who keeps on having fun and playing in the MA or the one who gets shot down and invites another player to the DA to have a "proper fight"? I read about the F3 view in this thread and not so long ago there was a topic about people using diving from altitude to have more energy when they merge at an agreed altitude in the DA.
If DA is your thing please do invite people there with you, but don`t always expect them to say yes. I have a feeling that an open invitation is a lot more promising. What are the chances that if someone adresses you directly you are going to play someone else`s game with questionable fairness for awhile until someone`s bruised ego gets recovered?
This is a great dance you've performed. Remember, the real answer about going to the DA is self-assessment. How good am I really? What things can I work on? I've always wanted to fight that person because he always seems to get rescued. As for myself, feel free to ask anyone, I've had my bellybutton handed to me by more than a few people here that I called out to the DA. I learned something from every one of them.
The question you have to honestly ask yourself is:
Why don't I want to go?
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Having extremely good looking neighbors is a good thing.
Your sister is hot. I don't blame you for liking her.
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EAce flies EXACTLY like your hero. I'm not laughing at all. I feel sorry for you that you're buying what he's selling. As for Skyrr being on another level? Not even close.
:rofl
And you're better I take it? More insightful?
Hahahahahahahaah okay then....
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Your sister is hot. I don't blame you for liking her.
Don't have a sister, but if I did I'd want her to be just like you.
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Don't have a sister, but if I did I'd want her to be just like you.
Tall, muscular, no breasts, with a p*nis? Whatever works for ya' bruh. :aok
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Tall, muscular, no breasts, with a p*nis? Whatever works for ya' bruh. :aok
And not too bright...nice save, but I think "noodle" was more accurate.
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And not too bright...nice save, but I think "noodle" was more accurate.
Length-wise, yes. Actually....the pool noodles are an appropriate comparison in size. :lol
A dim bulb like you talking about brightness. Oh the irony...
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Well played.
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Length-wise, yes. Actually....the pool noodles are an appropriate comparison in size. :lol
A dim bulb like you talking about brightness. Oh the irony...
As in "limp as"?
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You win bear. /thread
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You win bear. /thread
Do I get a cookie? :banana:
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You win bear. /thread
I disagree. That said, too bad his mouth works better than his ACM.
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:rofl
And you're better I take it? More insightful?
Hahahahahahahaah okay then....
I never said that and probably I'm not. But if you hang your nuts on Skyrr's skilz, you'll have sore nuts.
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I disagree. That said, too bad his mouth works better than his ACM.
What would you know about ACM?
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I disagree. That said, too bad his mouth works better than his ACM.
Ah, an example of a challenge.
My prognostication is out of 10, bear wins 9 in YOUR plane, lol
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Being back on subject now, to further accentuate the point of this thread, only the people that go to the DA have posted here. The absence of the naysayers (with the exception of R105) is proof of their abject fear of having their egos smashed.
absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
I stay out of the da because my flights last about a minute in there. Would the da make me better? Yes, but I have more fun in the other arenas than I do learning in the da.
Aces high is about fun for me, not egos. If you let your ego get smashed over a video game, or enjoy smashing them, you've got deeper issues.
I stay off 200, squelch the annoying, blow stuff up, and have fun. ~S~
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Being back on subject now, to further accentuate the point of this thread, only the people that go to the DA have posted here. The absence of the naysayers (with the exception of R105) is proof of their abject fear of having their egos smashed.
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absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
I stay out of the da because my flights last about a minute in there. Would the da make me better? Yes, but I have more fun in the other arenas than I do learning in the da.
Aces high is about fun for me, not egos. If you let your ego get smashed over a video game, or enjoy smashing them, you've got deeper issues.
I stay off 200, squelch the annoying, blow stuff up, and have fun. ~S~
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Being back on subject now, to further accentuate the point of this thread, only the people that go to the DA have posted here. The absence of the naysayers (with the exception of R105) is proof of their abject fear of having their egos smashed.
absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
I stay out of the da because my flights last about a minute in there. Would the da make me better? Yes, but I have more fun in the other arenas than I do learning in the da.
Aces high is about fun for me, not egos. If you let your ego get smashed over a video game, or enjoy smashing them, you've got deeper issues.
I stay off 200, squelch the annoying, blow stuff up, and have fun. ~S~
Thank you for your honesty :salute
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I never said that and probably I'm not. But if you hang your nuts on Skyrr's skilz, you'll have sore nuts.
My kill ratio went from 0.2:1 to 2:1 with his help (ignore this tour as it is an outlier for a couple reasons). I can now engage 5:1 and score hits whereas before I was dead in a merge or two.
What he teaches has been hard to grasp fully, but it is coming along... And he has a reason for what he does that he can articulate. I have seen him in action over and over and over. Skill is but a part. Thinking the fight is more important.
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What would you know about ATM?
I use it to get money with my debit card.
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My kill ratio went from 0.2:1 to 2:1 with his help (ignore this tour as it is an outlier for a couple reasons). I can now engage 5:1 and score hits whereas before I was dead in a merge or two.
What he teaches has been hard to grasp fully, but it is coming along... And he has a reason for what he does that he can articulate. I have seen him in action over and over and over. Skill is but a part. Thinking the fight is more important.
Please for the love of god shut up with your stupid "i'm so big tall and a muscle building with a big ****" and your "my KD is so good god is jealous". It makes you look like a complete idiot.
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Ah, an example of a challenge.
Just a statement of fact.
If I duel him I will have to become his friend. That's what always happens. I'd rather hate him right now. Makes shooting him down more fun.
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I use it to get money with my debit card.
That's all you got?
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My kill ratio went from 0.2:1 to 2:1 with his help (ignore this tour as it is an outlier for a couple reasons). I can now engage 5:1 and score hits whereas before I was dead in a merge or two.
What he teaches has been hard to grasp fully, but it is coming along... And he has a reason for what he does that he can articulate. I have seen him in action over and over and over. Skill is but a part. Thinking the fight is more important.
If this is supposed to represent evidence as to his skilz both as a pile it and instructor, you've failed. Far less skilled pile it's have much better scores than that from simply embracing two dictums:
1. Never enter a fight at any disadvantage
2. Run when you get your first disadvantage
Unlike the skilled sticks....they handle it as it comes and win.
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Please for the love of god shut up with your stupid "i'm so big tall and a muscle building with a big ****" and your "my KD is so good god is jealous". It makes you look like a complete idiot.
Did I even suggest 2:1 was good?
Why don't you zip your lip and READ what was written. Perhaps if you did so twenty times...slowly....you might grasp the point that was made. I won't hold my breath.
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If this is supposed to represent evidence as to his skilz both as a pile it and instructor, you've failed. Far less skilled pile it's have much better scores than that from simply embracing two dictums:
1. Never enter a fight at any disadvantage
2. Run when you get your first disadvantage
Unlike the skilled sticks....they handle it as it comes and win.
So?
You make multiple incorrect assumptions regarding the progression I stated. This renders your argument null and void.
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Did I even suggest 2:1 was good?
Why don't you zip your lip and READ what was written. Perhaps if you did so twenty times...slowly....you might grasp the point that was made. I won't hold my breath.
Tall, muscular, no breasts, with a p*nis? Whatever works for ya' bruh. :aok
Length-wise, yes. Actually....the pool noodles are an appropriate comparison in size. :lol
A dim bulb like you talking about brightness. Oh the irony...
I disagree. That said, too bad his mouth works better than his ACM.
Your sister is hot. I don't blame you for liking her.
So what? you think you are special or something after you made your special P51 skin? Because all of a sudden the old vraciu that was thanking the community for helping him skin planes is now talking about banging peoples sisters and how he is the biggest man on planet earth.
What a class act you are sir, class act indeed.
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So?
You make multiple incorrect assumptions regarding the progression I stated...
Now you're back peddling. You offered evidence. I made no assumption.
Back to the topic...
What keeps people out of the DA????
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So what? you think you are special or something after you made your special P51 skin? Because all of a sudden the old vraciu that was thanking the community for helping him skin planes is now talking about banging peoples sisters and how he is the biggest man on planet earth.
What a class act you are sir, class act indeed.
And you are not a class act with your obviously ill-informed bias posted above.
I simply fed back to Bear76 the sh-t he was trying to shovel into my mouth. Take off your blinders, son.
And I will suggest that my Pony skin was improved greatly by your comment on the first submission regarding bump mapping, etc. for which I thank you. Even though your criticism was hardly tactful...
I am not going to be bullied by people like Bear. If you have a problem with that you know where you can go.
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My kill ratio went from 0.2:1 to 2:1 with his help (ignore this tour as it is an outlier for a couple reasons). I can now engage 5:1 and score hits whereas before I was dead in a merge or two.
What he teaches has been hard to grasp fully, but it is coming along... And he has a reason for what he does that he can articulate. I have seen him in action over and over and over. Skill is but a part. Thinking the fight is more important.
Boom and zoom with the occasional loop and slash shouldn't be that hard to comprehend. There are diagrams on the internet that should get you on track as fast as it takes to google it and click "images".
If you're really wanting to learn to fight, I would suggest you're going about it in reverse order. You'll learn more about surviving in any situation by pushing your luck and limits than you will by playing it safe and flying straight. Take advantage of the fact that this is a game. Your toon death just means you get a new plane with more ammo and parts that work. :aok
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What keeps people out of the DA????
Badboy and his shades.
+the lazy arse mentality, practicing is for sissies anyways
Nuff said.
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Now you're back peddling. You offered evidence. I made no assumption.
Back to the topic...
What keeps people out of the DA????
No, you accuse me of back pedaling because you lost the argument.
I have improved with Skyyr's help and techniques in a matter of days, not years, as before. And I do not always attack from advantage or run as you suggest. I am able to fight and survive in more deadly situations than ever before. I have a long way to go, but your suggestion that buying what he sells is foolish just doesn't hold water.
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And you are not a class act with your obviously ill-informed bias posted above.
I simply fed back to Bear76 the sh-t he was trying to shovel into my mouth. Take off your blinders, son.
And I will suggest that my Pony skin was improved greatly by your comment on the first submission regarding bump mapping, etc. for which I thank you. Even though your criticism was hardly tactful...
I am not going to be bullied by people like Bear. If you have a problem with that you know where you can go.
Bullied lol. You need no help making a fool of yourself from me.
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Vraciu, please, stop beating your chest. Its kinda funny, you talk exactly like derpway.
Anyways, i pwn ya all. Take it or prove yourself.
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Boom and zoom with the occasional loop and slash shouldn't be that hard to comprehend. There are diagrams on the internet that should get you on track as fast as it takes to google it and click "images".
If you're really wanting to learn to fight, I would suggest you're going about it in reverse order. You'll learn more about surviving in any situation by pushing your luck and limits than you will by playing it safe and flying straight. Take advantage of the fact that this is a game. Your toon death just means you get a new plane with more ammo and parts that work. :aok
And I can now fight against five by myself and make a game of it when before 1:1 and 2:1 were sure death.
I still lose a lot, but I am slowly learning to focus on the process not the score. Do the right things. Study when you lose to learn why. Practice.
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Vraciu, please, stop beating your chest. Its kinda funny, you talk exactly like derpway.
Anyways, i pwn ya all. Take it or prove yourself.
I am not beating my chest. I have no reason to even try that.
The point is, when people attack someone like Skyyr, who is always willing to help people improve, I have a problem with that. I will speak out.
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I found the ones that wont go to DA are most often found in the MA in a huge green hourd.... in a crappy P40 bragging about how awesome they are because they fly a P40 in the MA. :rolleyes:
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
This x 1000 + tax. A pick is a pick, regardless of your ENY.
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Bullied lol. You need no help making a fool of yourself from me.
Says the guy who thinks he is better than Skyyr. Lmao!
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Says the guy who thinks he is better than Skyyr. Lmao!
Who isn't.......besides you I mean?
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No, you accuse me of back pedaling because you lost the argument.
I have improved with Skyyr's help and techniques in a matter of days, not years, as before. And I do not always attack from advantage or run as you suggest. I am able to fight and survive in more deadly situations than ever before. I have a long way to go, but your suggestion that buying what he sells is foolish just doesn't hold water.
I will repeat it slowly so you don't get confused.
I don't know if you ran or not. My post said you'd get a better score than you said you had if you did.
There was no argument. Skyrr may be your personal Jesus, but compared to people that have skills as demonstrated by there performance in the brackets, KOTH etc, he's not on that list. That isn't arguable, that's a fact.
If you want to hang your future on THAT guy, that's your business but don't shovel it here where a bunch of people know the difference.
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Now you're back peddling. You offered evidence. I made no assumption.
Back to the topic...
What keeps people out of the DA????
As for the question....
In my view, the MA is called the "Main" for a reason. It lends stature. People accord respect to skill shown there more than the DA. "Nobody cares about scores in the DA."
So a good pilot in the DA is dismissed. His performance is considered irrelevant. Few people see his name in lights there, esp. compared to the MA.
That said, the fights are easily found and highly challenging because you will always wind up at the bottom if you live long. So you go from offensive to neutral to defensive against multiple bandits very quickly.
I will be going there more often to learn...
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GROUP HUG :D
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I disagree. That said, too bad his mouth works better than his ACM.
I'd put money on Bear vs. you in a 1v1.
ack-ack
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I will repeat it slowly so you don't get confused.
I don't know if you ran or not. My post said you'd get a better score than you said you had if you did.
There was no argument. Skyrr may be your personal Jesus, but compared to people that have skills as demonstrated by there performance in the brackets, KOTH etc, he's not on that list. That isn't arguable, that's a fact.
If you want to hang your future on THAT guy, that's your business but don't shovel it here where a bunch of people know the difference.
He repeatedly kills "bracket champions". I will put my money on him if he ever decides to go that route.
And he isn't a personal Jesus. He is just a new member of the community who offered to help me without my asking, when one of your so-called king's of the hill mocked and dismissed my direct inquiry for advice.
This is not a friendly community by and large. It is a morass of egos and insults. And when someone comes along and feeds it back to you then the hit squad comes out en masse.
I will stick with Skyyr. Thanks.
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Just a statement of fact.
If I duel him I will have to become his friend. That's what always happens. I'd rather hate him right now. Makes shooting him down more fun.
Well, it's not the "I won't go to the DA because of F3" excuse but it's still equally as lame and limp wristed.
ack-ack
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I'd put money on Bear vs. you in a 1v1.
ack-ack
Good for you.
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Well, it's not the "I won't go to the DA because of F3" excuse but it's still equally as lame and limp wristed.
ack-ack
If he ever wants to go, just him and me, no egos involved, I will be glad to.
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So a good pilot in the DA is dismissed. His performance is considered irrelevant. Few people see his name in lights there, esp. compared to the MA.
This may be the most uninformed statement ever made on these boards...that is sig worthy
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And I can now fight against five by myself and make a game of it when before 1:1 and 2:1 were sure death.
I still lose a lot, but I am slowly learning to focus on the process not the score. Do the right things. Study when you lose to learn why. Practice.
It's not a fight if the con can't engage you. :)
Staying high and fast isn't a bad strategy, but it's not difficult to employ. Good gunnery is about the only required skill, and even that can be lessened with a big cannon bird. To me, it's far better to learn how to push your plane in all types of situations first, then employ whatever style floats your boat. If that happens to be high and fast, you'll at least have an idea of what to do when that higher con (there's always one) runs you down.
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GROUP HUG :D
Probably the best post so far.
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It's not a fight if the con can't engage you. :)
Staying high and fast isn't a bad strategy, but it's not difficult to employ. Good gunnery is about the only required skill, and even that can be lessened with a big cannon bird. To me, it's far better to learn how to push your plane in all types of situations first, then employ whatever style floats your boat. If that happens to be high and fast, you'll at least have an idea of what to do when that higher con (there's always one) runs you down.
And I prefer the other approach. Wade my way in slowly as my skill and SA increase.
Sky would probably agree with you. But for me it just saturates...
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This may be the most uninformed statement ever made on these boards...that is sig worthy
That's what people say. A good stick at crater lake isn't respected. Some aren't worthy of it, to be sure, but....
I myself succumb to the "glory" of success in the MA. I am not alone.
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what page did we get off topic so i can remember what that was?
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That's what people say. A good stick at crater lake isn't respected. Some aren't worthy of it, to be sure, but....
I myself succumb to the "glory" of success in the MA. I am not alone.
We haven't been talking about the lake young one. I'm certain you knew that but nice try on the recovery.
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We haven't been talking about the lake young one. I'm certain you knew that but nice try on the recovery.
I haven't read the entire thread.
Not relevant any way.
Why don't people go to the DA?
Read my previous posts on the subject.
That's why people don't go.
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What could be done to encourage DA participation?
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He got kilt repeatedly
By killed "repeatedly", you mean you killed me once while I was tabbed out and another time when you came in behind me, flying a 109K vs my Ta-152. You really have an odd way of defining of the word "repeatedly."
Now, I could care less that I got killed (and any skilled pilot in a 109K should win vs a slow, climbing Ta at low alt). However, if you want to call that "killed repeatedly," then you were "absolutely slaughtered" by me last tour (see what I did there)?
Goes both ways.
That said, you're the same guy who claimed I could be beaten by someone flying a lesser plane, then absolutely refused to make yourself good on your own issued challenge. Recant, make excuses, whatever have you - you backed down and backed out. Leading by example, huh (and you know exactly what I mean by that)? Hey pot, I'm kettle...
The irony here is that you, a vet of years, is boasting about how much you've been learning from a trainer. Yet, in that same breath, you are claiming to be the end-all know-it-all of someone who's been flying for just at 5 months. A student is claiming to be a seasoned instructor. Yet again, quite hypocritical and illogical of you. All the while not making good on your own claim.
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What could be done to encourage DA participation?
Actual 1v1 nights at standalone bases, instead of the usual furball in the middle which usually ends up with a vulch-fest and people getting pissed off and leaving.
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Skyler to Vracy
(https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQnEW6QPoGPWV3K-Cxw5K6spvouzJWstAi8SMaTe8wmB0nEX8eEGQ)
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Actual 1v1 nights at standalone bases, instead of the usual furball in the middle which usually ends up with a vulch-fest and people getting pissed off and leaving.
+1
I was thinking of writing this.
Also de-stigmatizing the DA. Right now it is "the boys' bathroom in 7th grade" where supposed verbal sleights were "avenged".
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Actual 1v1 nights at standalone bases, instead of the usual furball in the middle which usually ends up with a vulch-fest and people getting pissed off and leaving.
Ok. But there are a ton of fields. You're free to set it up anyway you like.
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By killed "repeatedly", you mean you killed me once while I was tabbed out and another time when you came in behind me, flying a 109K vs my Ta-152. You really have an odd way of defining of the word "repeatedly."
Now, I could care less that I got killed (and any skilled pilot in a 109K should win vs a slow, climbing Ta at low alt). However, if you want to call that "killed repeatedly," then you were "absolutely slaughtered" by me last tour (see what I did there)?
Goes both ways.
That said, you're the same guy who claimed I could be beaten by someone flying a lesser plane, then absolutely refused to make yourself good on your own issued challenge. Recant, make excuses, whatever have you - you backed down and backed out. Leading by example, huh (and you know exactly what I mean by that)? Hey pot, I'm kettle...
The irony here is that you, a vet of years, is boasting about how much you've been learning from a trainer. Yet, in that same breath, you are claiming to be the end-all know-it-all of someone who's been flying for just at 5 months. A student is claiming to be a seasoned instructor. Yet again, quite hypocritical and illogical of you. All the while not making good on your own claim.
I think he was referencing what happened when another plane matched your E state, not just his.
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Skyler to Vracy
(https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQnEW6QPoGPWV3K-Cxw5K6spvouzJWstAi8SMaTe8wmB0nEX8eEGQ)
1/10.
Way to contribute. /sarcasm
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We need to do another DA night to show them what the arena is really about. Only fools and noobs fly the lake.
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We need to do another DA night to show them what the arena is really about. Only fools and noobs fly the lake.
I'm down for this... how about tonight?
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We need to do another DA night to show them what the arena is really about. Only fools and noobs fly the lake.
yeah we do, the DA after FSO was a lot of fun.
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I'm down for this... how about tonight?
I know my guys would be for it. I won't be able to until tomorrow but the others may be available.
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I miss the DA nights with you guys.... there used to be an early morning(yours) middle of the night (mine) crew batfink Bunnies hibly agent Spatula etc etc.....15 odd guys meeting in any plane usually on the deck engaging the one they see knowing the fight was till the end without interference..sure they were sometimes close and ready to pounce when the fight was over but this offered a great amount of learning....the 10-2 line was never a viable shooting area offering a better chance to learn and experiment with ACM and learn plane characteristics.... no chest thumping only offers of guidance after and during a fight....this is how/where I learned that you can actually get a little more than you thought from your aircraft of choice...
The MA with this crowd was similar (obviously more than 15 odd guys though).....apart from you used to get 2-3 V 1 practice...big furballs with style.....miss those days and caliber of player.... there are still a few about but running into them is becoming less frequent
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By killed "repeatedly", you mean you killed me once while I was tabbed out and another time when you came in behind me, flying a 109K vs my Ta-152. You really have an odd way of defining of the word "repeatedly."
Now, I could care less that I got killed (and any skilled pilot in a 109K should win vs a slow, climbing Ta at low alt). However, if you want to call that "killed repeatedly," then you were "absolutely slaughtered" by me last tour (see what I did there)?
Goes both ways.
That said, you're the same guy who claimed I could be beaten by someone flying a lesser plane, then absolutely refused to make yourself good on your own issued challenge. Recant, make excuses, whatever have you - you backed down and backed out. Leading by example, huh (and you know exactly what I mean by that)? Hey pot, I'm kettle...
The irony here is that you, a vet of years, is boasting about how much you've been learning from a trainer. Yet, in that same breath, you are claiming to be the end-all know-it-all of someone who's been flying for just at 5 months. A student is claiming to be a seasoned instructor. Yet again, quite hypocritical and illogical of you. All the while not making good on your own claim.
i fly with some of the best sticks in this game and I chose to go to Morfiend because I know him, he's a friend, he's a trainer, he has an unbiased view of my flying and would render an opinion and suggestions that squadmates might be reluctant to offer. Also, I'm hard headed and although my squadmates have offered their help I felt the need to verify some of it with someone that isn't a shareholder. You're a tiny little man if you can find no value in that or worse, that you believe it was something to make light of...it's just illustrates how far in the barrel you decided to reach for a laugh or to make a point other than the one on your head.
Died repeatedly was not just at my hand....it was at the hands of many others there last night. You died a lot. I'm certain you have an excuse or reason because you always do but it's a fact non-the-less. Keep experimenting in the MA.
As far as a challenge, I left that in your court. And I'll say it again, you let me know and we can find a field and 1 v 1. We will merge, climb straight up with wep on and seesaw down for thirty minutes just like you did with Dodger and Skyrock. And when the pendulum runs out of momentum, we'll see how well you can turn that thing. I have an idea based on Sunsfans interpretation of your fights with him.
Yes, I have the benefit of knowing from them...they didn't know nor did they expect such a.....process to get to the shooting part.
Just let me know
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I'm down for this... how about tonight?
Sounds good to me. Who else is in for tonight?
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Sounds good to me. Who else is in for tonight?
What's the general format?
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Sounds good to me. Who else is in for tonight?
I might be there. My appearance fee is pretty steep though.
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What's the general format?
We pick a vox channel. 1vs1 only, call out the plane you want to fight. Cold merges on the deck. No hoing.
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We pick a vox channel. 1vs1 only, call out the plane you want to fight. Cold merges on the deck. No hoing.
:aok
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I think he was referencing what happened when another plane matched your E state, not just his.
Are you referring to your 262? Because I'm pretty sure your higher-e-state jet met my high-explosive 30mm's :devil
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Are you referring to your 262? Because I'm pretty sure your higher-e-state jet met my high-explosive 30mm's :devil
It's true. That happened. Dude set my one aileron jet on fire in a stall fight.
Tell them what happened when all my pieces were attached. :)
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Tell them what happened when all my pieces were attached. :)
It flew?
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Skyyr came over from Fighter Ace, so he's probably not an old AH hand "shading" nor a noob.
I've found him to be a good stick, I say as someone who has been flying AH since 2006 and read my copy of "Fighter Combat" by Shaw until it is falling apart.
He's also nice enough to show you what he knows, his pointers on managing my energy better during reversals were helpful.
Vraciu I ran into in a P-51D the other day, while flying a P-51 of my own. I thought he was a new pilot and he was about to die until OOPS, pulled up with just enough E to deny me a guns solution and then was back down on me. Not your standard boom and zoom plus obvious rope, much more devious. Sawed off my rudder and probably would have won if we hadn't collided during the scissors. Not too bad.
I've also been flown with Skyyr, Vraciu, Kruel, and Fess into superior numbers of bandits and seen them all go with all of us left standing. Fun guys to fly with.
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It's true. That happened. Dude set my one aileron jet on fire in a stall fight.
It was actually a 4v1 ;) I also shot down a Hurricane. The Mustang and LA-7 eventually got me.
Tell them what happened when all my pieces were attached. :)
You got me in 2v1, when you were flying wing with Blueberry (who was also in a 262). :aok
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To recap:
We've gotten some good and poor answers on why not to go to the DA. What are something's that can be done to generate real interest in making the DA more appealing from a player perspective?
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To recap:
We've gotten some good and poor answers on why not to go to the DA. What are something's that can be done to generate real interest in making the DA more appealing from a player perspective?
Or maybe make the TA more appealing. This is supposed to be about playing aerial chess to the best of our ability, yet to a large extent it is not anymore...
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Skyyr came over from Fighter Ace, so he's probably not an old AH hand "shading" nor a noob.
I've found him to be a good stick, I say as someone who has been flying AH since 2006 and read my copy of "Fighter Combat" by Shaw until it is falling apart.
He's also nice enough to show you what he knows, his pointers on managing my energy better during reversals were helpful.
Vraciu I ran into in a P-51D the other day, while flying a P-51 of my own. I thought he was a new pilot and he was about to die until OOPS, pulled up with just enough E to deny me a guns solution and then was back down on me. Not your standard boom and zoom plus obvious rope, much more devious. Sawed off my rudder and probably would have won if we hadn't collided during the scissors. Not too bad.
I've also flown with Skyyr, Vraciu, Kruel, and Fess into superior numbers of bandits and seen them all go with all of us left standing. Fun guys to fly with.
What a wonderful compliment. Cannot thank you enough for it. It was a great fight...and long before it you treated me with respect on these forums against the horde. A sign of character and a trait I respect tremendously. <S>
But you were gonna' win that scissors I suspect. :)
Your assessment of my comrades is spot on. Good guys. All of whom have enjoyed flying with you, sir, fwiw.
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It was actually a 4v1 ;) I also shot down a Hurricane. The Mustang and LA-7 eventually got me.
You got me in 2v1, when you were flying wing with Blueberry (who was also in a 262). :aok
This is false.
When you dove on me Pepprr was the only Knight within 10k of me and she was outside of icon range. You strangely tried to follow a jet in a zoom climb and stranger still tried to outrun one in a dive. You did wiggle your wing a little before it fell off though.
Your math is a bit off for the second engagement. I was 2k out when the Hurricane fell victim to your rope. There was an La7 there with him, plus me. So for the sake of argument I'll give you 2 v 1, but with your substantial E advantage, the Hurricane and the La were no threat to you. You see me and again believe a 152 can out zoom a jet... but alas, I missed a 200 yard tater right before you fell under my nose. The rest of the fight was was just a series of poor shots and sluggish maneuvers on my part. :o
I can send you the film if you like. :)
P.S. - That La was out of ammo. Does that still count?
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Or maybe make the TA more appealing. This is supposed to be about playing aerial chess to the best of our ability, yet to a large extent it is not anymore...
Now this I agree with and would like to hear some suggestions!
Besides in the TA you spend more time flying and fighting and less time in the tower selecting a new plane! You dont have to shoot the other guy down to know who won or lost and Ho's dont matter because there's no damage so you can politely say to the other guy"that wasnt nice". :aok
I suppose there's a certain satisfaction in shooting the other guy down in a long drawn out fight but it's really just an ego stroke and IMHO if you truely want to learn you must set aside the ego if only for an hour or so!
YMMV.
:salute
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Less ego= more fun..not that I'm not guilty of whining on 200 but I kept trying to remember why this game was Soooooooo Much fun 10 years ago and now it's more frustrating than fun...it's my 10 year ego with my 2 weeker flying skills..so I'm making my enemies my friends..at least on my end.now it's all fun with gentle ribbing..thank you friends lol :salute ..but then again who the hell am I? :banana:
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Less ego= more fun..not that I'm not guilty of whining on 200 but I kept trying to remember why this game was Soooooooo Much fun 10 years ago and now it's more frustrating than fun...it's my 10 year ego with my 2 weeker flying skills..so I'm making my enemies my friends..at least on my end.now it's all fun with gentle ribbing..thank you friends lol :salute ..but then again who the hell am I? :banana:
A guy with the attitude I wish I had.
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Less ego= more fun..not that I'm not guilty of whining on 200 but I kept trying to remember why this game was Soooooooo Much fun 10 years ago and now it's more frustrating than fun...it's my 10 year ego with my 2 weeker flying skills..so I'm making my enemies my friends..at least on my end.now it's all fun with gentle ribbing..thank you friends lol :salute ..but then again who the hell am I? :banana:
General rule is always leave the ego at the door in the DA 1v1s... Some folks like to get all worked up and wanna pet their ego but generally that doesn't last long.. Some folks think jus because they beat so and so on some particular night they are always better.. Lots of misconceptions.. Most think when Muppets throw out the DA? comment they are chest pumping.. When actually on squad chan we are just looking for some fun and hope to type, 'I got one!!'... Not too often do we throw it out when already having fun..
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Most think when Muppets throw out the DA? comment they are chest pumping..
This month's Changeup thread is humble and merely a community service? :)
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This month's Changeup thread is humble and merely a community service? :)
Doesn't really matter what I say Arlo.. You'll just make up what ever you want..
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Doesn't really matter what I say Arlo.. You'll just make up what ever you want..
I trust you, kap. What is Changeup up to? :)
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I trust you, kap. What is Changeup up to? :)
Last I heard his family was puking their guys out with the flu, you should go visit :old:
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Last I heard his family was puking their guys out with the flu, you should go visit :old:
Ew, puking their guys out must be a whole new level. Doesn't fully explain the thread, but my condolences. Thanks for being kap's responder. :)
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eh I need to proof read! I still hate you :old:
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eh I need to proof read! I still hate you :old:
I think it's that love/hate confusion thing, Wes. :)
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I trust you, kap. What is Changeup up to? :)
But... Changeup humps your ankle? lol
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But... Changeup humps your ankle? lol
Hi there! You're late (by your standards). Kap and I weren't discussing you. :salute ;)
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is Arlo Semp?
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is Arlo Semp?
Are you Meg? :)
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I think it's that love/hate confusion thing, Wes. :)
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(http://i.imgur.com/LXUNgMu.gif)
Animated gifs are fun. My job here is done. Well, one of them. Sorta. Maybe not. :)
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The most DA fun?
1. Canyon fights?
2. 1 v 1 groups?
3. 1 v 1 hate-fights?
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Separate the Lake from the fields. Make a small arena where planes start in the Air and call it the Free For All room, where everyone is red. Players start in the air and there is only 1 field in on the ground in the center. The Dueling Arena is for DUELS. Make an arena where you can get REALLY quick action.
Also, enable names in MA :x Its stupid that people have to resort to 'HEY YOU 190 at A74, YOU KEEP ON RUNNING BUDDY!' Just enable player names already, it will bring a whole new dynamic to this stagnant community. But thats for another discussion.
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Separate the Lake from the fields. Make a small arena where planes start in the Air and call it the Free For All room, where everyone is red. Players start in the air and there is only 1 field in on the ground in the center. The Dueling Arena is for DUELS. Make an arena where you can get REALLY quick action.
Also, enable names in MA :x Its stupid that people have to resort to 'HEY YOU 190 at A74, YOU KEEP ON RUNNING BUDDY!' Just enable player names already, it will bring a whole new dynamic to this stagnant community. But thats for another discussion.
Awesome. This is a great idea!
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Separate the Lake from the fields. Make a small arena where planes start in the Air and call it the Free For All room, where everyone is red. Players start in the air and there is only 1 field in on the ground in the center. The Dueling Arena is for DUELS. Make an arena where you can get REALLY quick action.
Also, enable names in MA :x Its stupid that people have to resort to 'HEY YOU 190 at A74, YOU KEEP ON RUNNING BUDDY!' Just enable player names already, it will bring a whole new dynamic to this stagnant community. But thats for another discussion.
Wonder where those ideas came from. ;) :aok
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The most DA fun?
1. Canyon fights?
2. 1 v 1 groups?
3. 1 v 1 hate-fights?
I think the Canyon fights are awesome, where you pick the plane and everyone flies it, or you pick an ENY or whatever... especially when EVERYONE follows the rules.
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Separate the Lake from the fields. Make a small arena where planes start in the Air and call it the Free For All room, where everyone is red. Players start in the air and there is only 1 field in on the ground in the center. The Dueling Arena is for DUELS. Make an arena where you can get REALLY quick action.
Also, enable names in MA :x Its stupid that people have to resort to 'HEY YOU 190 at A74, YOU KEEP ON RUNNING BUDDY!' Just enable player names already, it will bring a whole new dynamic to this stagnant community. But thats for another discussion.
You go Kruel! I've been debating suggesting the FFA idea for a while now.... We all know how popular that room remained up until the day they chained the doors shut.
:salute. Nishizawa
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F-3 mode is used in the DA by most who come there no matter how much the say they don't. That is how they make those fantastic deflection shots in there you never see in the MA or move at just the right time to avoid your fire.
I NEVER fly F3 in DA, and most of the vets in the game wouldn't do it either. The only ones you will find doing it are the hardcore, lake regulars that you never see in the MA. They don't go to the MA because they do fly F3 and can't or wont adapt.
The once or twice I tried it out of curiousity, I couldn't aim to save my life.
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I NEVER fly F3 in DA, and most of the vets in the game wouldn't do it either. The only ones you will find doing it are the hardcore, lake regulars that you never see in the MA. They don't go to the MA because they do fly F3 and can't or wont adapt.
The once or twice I tried it out of curiousity, I couldn't aim to save my life.
+1
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I NEVER fly F3 in DA, and most of the vets in the game wouldn't do it either. The only ones you will find doing it are the hardcore, lake regulars that you never see in the MA. They don't go to the MA because they do fly F3 and can't or wont adapt.
The once or twice I tried it out of curiousity, I couldn't aim to save my life.
QFT
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Wonder where those ideas came from. ;) :aok
They came from FA! But I really never flew in the FFA Room but since this is what the discussion is about figured I'd throw it in, I would love for a room with smaller maps and NO STUPID TANKS/BOATS (field guns are OK, maybe the wirbs too). This is Aces HIGH not MudMovers LOW. :airplane:
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F3 Mode sux. Anyone who can do that is on some other plane of thinking. I guess that's why my daughter can whip my butt in Black Ops: Zombie Mode. She is a natural. My son, too. I just don't have their perspective--but I did get to level 45 in Zombies on Der Riese....
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yeah we do, the DA after FSO was a lot of fun.
Next Friday no FSO ... Straight for the DA ? :D
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Why is F3 mode even allowed in the DA and not just the TA?
Or am I necromancing some horse corpse and going to get banned for asking?
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Why is F3 mode even allowed in the DA and not just the TA?
Or am I necromancing some horse corpse and going to get banned for asking?
There has never been an answer for this. There probably never will be.
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There has never been an answer for this. There probably never will be.
If they took the pick and run HO planes out of the DA, and got rid of F3 mode, maybe the 12 hour rule thing would become moot?
Hahaha
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If they took the pick and run HO planes out of the DA, and got rid of F3 mode, maybe the 12 hour rule thing would become moot?
Hahaha
I understand that rational but the truth is the problem isn't the plane set in the DA. Just up the same and hammer them. The issue is the stigma of F3
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I think I remember "they" saying it was some concession to Fighter Ace guys coming over to AH. That might be a figment of my imagination though. :headscratch:
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I think I remember "they" saying it was some concession to Fighter Ace guys coming over to AH. That might be a figment of my imagination though. :headscratch:
I hope this wasn't the case, because while FA's equivalent to the DA (FFA) was admittedly more "arcade-ish".... Air spawns, everyone was a red guy, unlimited ammo, relaxed physics..... I know of no one after many years spent in that room who flew in the F3 type mode.... Behind the plane. We had a full forward view which in essence gave you cockpit perspective crosshairs without the hinderance of the plane's nose/prop.... I suppose it could be argued that that view is almost as gamey as the F3 view but we still did our flying and shooting from the cockpit perspective.
:salute Nishizawa
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With all the talk of fights, no fights, some fights, few fights I've wondered why the DA is so avoidable for some folks when fights are so available there. 3 v 3, 1 v 1 etc etc. You can get all you want from anyone you'd like to fight, friendly or not, challenged, or just some practice with a friend.
As a squad we spend a lot of time there and unlike some people suggest, we don't do it to practice our "tricks" or use F3 or whatever other BS some avoiders use. This is not just the Muppets...its the BK's, the 80th, some AK's and even Skyrr has been known to come play. We all do it because its the only place to get an unadulterated, even fight. The only advantage the people that actually go there have is that they learn to fight and when the need arises, don't run from a fight by making laughable excuses to protect their fragile egos in the MA or the DA. They find no need to rationalize an excuse like tricks, F3, E fighting advantage, etc etc etc.
In the end, most players accept DA invitations and prove they are willing to fight or at least attempt to learn, actually end up earning some respect for fighting instead of working just as hard to come up with new and poignant excuses for their panzyness. More importantly, they make a few friends.
So, what's your excuse?
You know I have no excuses. Though I do carry a few choice observations and explanations.
Those who know me know that I have been flying in the DA for some time. Other than on the VOX channels I frequent, I tend to keep my mouth shut -- as opposed to opening it and securing my spot in the hierarchy of stupidity. I would like to think that I am known as one who doesn't HO on the first merge, one that always gives a man a chance and would never see fit to take an unfair advantage, one who loses with grace, one is never afraid to be a bit self deprecating in pointing out my errors, and generally an honorable fighter in all meetings if nothing else. Though all these things tend to get me killed.
With that being said, just because I choose to not HO, I do not expect that from others. I choose to fly without enemy icons on most of the time, and always fly from 1st person, even in bombers, I turn off tracers(except in practice (though this is a bit of an advantage as well)). This does not mean that I expect others to do these things -- this just makes the game fun for me personally.
Like in chess, you get better by competing against the worst odds. Like in football, you don't have to catch it with 2 feet in bounds until you make it pro, but the best do it in high school, and even though it counts when they don't, it is taken as a personal failure non-the-less.
I guess my point is, don't worry about what other people are doing. If they are "gaming-the-system" they are cheating themselves, not you. You can also easily avoid engagements with those people if you are not comfortable with their tactics.
I don't know that the DA is more or less challenging then the MA -- I think it can best be described as a more subjective experience, meaning: it is what you make it.
I like the simulation aspects of the game (so much so that I have created and use checklists, an AFD((general info that I have collected over the years(channels and desc., annotatedClipboardMaps, etc.), and created a document that fits on my kneeboard), and "Plates"), and I try to make that my focus (<<<subjective piece)-- I tend not to concern myself with others methods -- unless they seem like something that I can add to my own. Always happy to listen and try new things though.
Over the years I have heard a lot of complaining about the tactics in the DA, and I have had my own frustrations from time to time -- though I think overall those of us that fly there the most often are a good group of guys always willing to take a fight -- no matter how many times we lose -- or what time of the morning it is.
I think I can make a fairly good argument that we have created -- within our ranks -- a fair amount of "good sticks" now flying in the MA most of the time, that would have otherwise left the game early on in their tenure.
The real benefit of the DA I think (remember(my advice is worth what you are paying for it)) is that it makes you comfortable fighting 4 or 5 or 6 people, and choosing your targets, and using your E, ammo, and fuel wisely. So where others would be on the deck at 150mph after a fight; and turn to run when they are low on ammo, 2 kills in the pocket, and see 3 fighters headed for them with speed; DA guys tend to turn into them and go to work. Though this isn't always a good idea, it turns out better than one would think most of the time. And it's a lot of fun!
So in the end, it is a great training tool, a great place to learn, the fastest way to find a fight, and a great place to hang out.
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I went into the DA this night because my MA connect was poor and I'd heard that the DA was on a different server. Don't know if this is true, but my frame rates went up in the DA.
Flew into the lake area. Had a remarkably great fight with FBFarmer, if I recall his name correctly. Cuervo could have entered the fight against me, but stayed out. Mark of an oldtimer. Farmer won anyway, and had the satisfaction of doing it on his own.
It may be that the DA gets like the MA, but tonight it seemed to me to be exactly what it should be.
- oldman
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I went into the DA this night because my MA connect was poor and I'd heard that the DA was on a different server. Don't know if this is true, but my frame rates went up in the DA.
Flew into the lake area. Had a remarkably great fight with FBFarmer, if I recall his name correctly. Cuervo could have entered the fight against me, but stayed out. Mark of an oldtimer. Farmer won anyway, and had the satisfaction of doing it on his own.
It may be that the DA gets like the MA, but tonight it seemed to me to be exactly what it should be.
- oldman
There are some good folks in there. I enjoyed learning there to be honest.
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i dont fly in the DA much maybe ill have to give it a shot its been along time. The first person i ever met in DA was NrShida
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The first person i ever met in DA was NrShida
Thats the best what could happen :aok
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Shida is one of the best teachers in the game, IF you really want to learn. I call him my sensei because of what I was required to do....practice, practice, practice. the only reason I'm not any good, is that you must have some talent to work with, and I'm bereft of that. As for the lake at the DA, every time I make the mistake of thinking it has gotten better, I'm forced to remember why it rots. Not worth my time. The private area with people thatI know fly well and with respect, without all the 200 style junk, is the only way I'll go in there.
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Shida is one of the best teachers in the game, IF you really want to learn. I call him my sensei because of what I was required to do....practice, practice, practice. the only reason I'm not any good, is that you must have some talent to work with, and I'm bereft of that. As for the lake at the DA, every time I make the mistake of thinking it has gotten better, I'm forced to remember why it rots. Not worth my time. The private area with people thatI know fly well and with respect, without all the 200 style junk, is the only way I'll go in there.
My hope is that where the lake is concerned, that people don't confuse the feeling you get when you get killed with "the lake being a bad place". One of the best examples of that was on two separate occasions:
1. TonyJoey and JoeyTony were flying low on the water and attracted the horde killed about 7 of them, rinse and repeat. They never answered the ALL channel because I guess they detuned it. For hours one night. SA practice.
2. DrBone upped a 9 and did the same thing only he asked us all NOT to save him. I have no idea how many he killed. All night long.
It became obvious over time that some folks had figured out that the DA lake was a place to take batting practice, try new approaches, see curveballs, sliders and off speed stuff at a much higher operational tempo than they'd ever find in the MA. Truthfully I never asked any of them about it so I can't say for certain that's what they were doing but their skills now are obvious. There were others as well...Fringe, bunnies, Krup...
The DA lake is simply batting practice with live pitchers. Take your cuts with that in mind, put your iTunes playlist on and have fun.
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One of Shida's gems was to empty you ammo and then dive into the DA.
Now there's an SA challenge :old:
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One of Shida's gems was to empty you ammo and then dive into the DA.
Now there's an SA challenge :old:
Haha! "When Cortez landed in the new world, he burned his ships....."
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One of Shida's gems was to empty you ammo and then dive into the DA.
Now there's an SA challenge :old:
I liked to dive in WWI bird into a DA furball lake. Too bad the wings ripped off most of the time :devil
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I liked to dive in WWI bird into a DA furball lake. Too bad the wings ripped off most of the time :devil
How many temps and K4s augered following you around, lol?
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I liked to dive in WWI bird into a DA furball lake. Too bad the wings ripped off most of the time :devil
I TA'd against an f6f in a DR7 the other day, that was some fun, followed by a rage quit by the chap who could no longer see out of his bullet riddled cockpit :lol
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I liked to dive in WWI bird into a DA furball lake. Too bad the wings ripped off most of the time :devil
Indeed, I do not see why they were removed from the furball lake, they simply don't present enough threat to seriously disrupt gameplay.
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Wait, WW1 planes aren't enabled in the DA? WHY? What's the worst that can happen with allowing WW1 planes in the DA lake?
"OH NO! A free kill! How terrible!" :D
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Wait, WW1 planes aren't enabled in the DA? WHY? What's the worst that can happen with allowing WW1 planes in the DA lake?
"OH NO! A free kill! How terrible!" :D
Dunno, but they are definitely not there anymore.
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Dunno, but they are definitely not there anymore.
Hmmmm, and F3 mode is missing from Offline, is there an arena setting for this?
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Cheers :aok
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cheers to you to :aok making friends is awesome!!
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I had a friend once :old:
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I had a friend once
If there's no film, it didn't happen.
- oldman
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If there's no film, it didn't happen.
- oldman
And the camera perspective has to be from within the same room.
:noid
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And the camera perspective has to be from within the same room.
:noid
Ha! When you making a comeback Shane?
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Ha! When you making a comeback Shane?
Whenever I get around to figuring out how to solder-repair about 5 MS FFB2 sticks.... hats swicthes all worn out.
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Whenever I get around to figuring out how to solder-repair about 5 MS FFB2 sticks.... hats swicthes all worn out.
TrackIR is your friend. :aok
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Whenever I get around to figuring out how to solder-repair about 5 MS FFB2 sticks.... hats swicthes all worn out.
How bout I just send you one?
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How bout I just send you one?
I will send you a large brown paper bag of gratitude if you do this.
- oldman
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I will send you a large brown paper bag of gratitude if you do this.
- oldman
If he PMs me, it's done
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If he PMs me, it's done
LoL @ oldman - met him way back in umm sheesh, mid-90's at the reading airshow.
Does the FFB2 you're referring to work? Earlier blue-box production runs had weak triggers - the later red-boxed productions were much better but eventually had spazzy hat switches.
I have about 4 or 5 in boxes as mentioned, in need of a soldering and button thingy, but if you anna toss yours my way, I'll be happy to pay for the shipping and a little extra. PM sent.
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LoL @ oldman - met him way back in umm sheesh, mid-90's at the reading airshow.
Does the FFB2 you're referring to work? Earlier blue-box production runs had weak triggers - the later red-boxed productions were much better but eventually had spazzy hat switches.
I have about 4 or 5 in boxes as mentioned, in need of a soldering and button thingy, but if you anna toss yours my way, I'll be happy to pay for the shipping and a little extra. PM sent.
nice :aok
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I will send you a large brown paper bag of gratitude if you do this.
- oldman
If this goes thru, guess who my first victim will be upon my return... :t AvA with no icons? pfffftt - done. :airplane:
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If this goes thru, guess who my first victim will be upon my return... AvA with no icons? pfffftt - done.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eCG8FDOxIw
- oldman