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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Nemisis on January 27, 2010, 04:27:15 PM
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Yesterday, i was flying in my P-47M, and after some fighters, and a P-47N making a pass at some tanks made some passes at the base, loosing my left gear, oil, and my aux fuel tank. After 1 min or so of flying, I realize there is a spit 16, and a Ki84 chasing me. They dogged me for two sectors till my engine finaly died, and the spit 16 got the kill after HO'ing me. How desperate for a kill do you have to be to follow someone for two whole sectors, for the CHANCE at getting a kill? It wasn't even a guarenteed kill for either of them, since there were 2.
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This game is all about the score...or did you miss that memo? :D
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He was flying a Spit16. Why would you expect anything else?
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OMG someone killed you... in a combat game????
Quick whine on the bbs.... ohh wait you've got that covered. ;)
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How desperate for a kill do you have to be to follow someone for two whole sectors, for the CHANCE at getting a kill? It wasn't even a guarenteed kill for either of them, since there were 2.
Of course, one could also ask..."how desperate to live do you have to be to run for 2 whole sectors in a broken plane?"
...just sayin'.... :banana:
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2 sectors should have been enough to gain some speed and energy advantage I would think. Especially over those two rides, granted your advantage may be fleeting but you could have worked it !
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This game is all about the score...or did you miss that memo? :D
I was thinking the same Dot :aok. I mean really, without that kill what would the guy have done :rofl :rofl
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2 sectors should have been enough to gain some speed and energy advantage I would think. Especially over those two rides, granted your advantage may be fleeting but you could have worked it !
my 1st thought as well.
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Yesterday, i was flying in my P-47M, and after some fighters, and a P-47N making a pass at some tanks made some passes at the base, loosing my left gear, oil, and my aux fuel tank. After 1 min or so of flying, I realize there is a spit 16, and a Ki84 chasing me. They dogged me for two sectors till my engine finaly died, and the spit 16 got the kill after HO'ing me. How desperate for a kill do you have to be to follow someone for two whole sectors, for the CHANCE at getting a kill? It wasn't even a guarenteed kill for either of them, since there were 2.
on the flip side of that/.........how desperate must one be to run for 2 whole sectors?
just playin devils advocate here..... :devil
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What did you do to piss them off enough to chase you down for that long? Were you being a picker from 10k above the fight? vulching? HOing? (8x 50cals, right? Full ammo load, right?)
To be fair, sometimes I let a wounded bird go, but I may chase one down for vendetta, or spend 40 minutes chasing an intact bird just to piss him off because he won't engage.... You never know what you'll get.
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First off, I have trouble believing that a Spitfire could have chased you for two sectors...
Second, you should have turned and fought.
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spit16 and ki84 have almost identical deck speeds on WEP, Ki a few mph faster off-wep.
You don't believe the spitty, but you buy the ki? hehe :old: :banana: :bolt:
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I mean, fuel wise.
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just razzin' ya :aok
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They dogged me for two sectors till my engine finaly died, and the spit 16 got the kill after HO'ing me.
Yeah, how sad.
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just razzin' ya :aok
I'm the one to do the razzin around here! :furious
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2 sectors should have been enough to gain some speed and energy advantage I would think. Especially over those two rides, granted your advantage may be fleeting but you could have worked it !
I tried for the first half sector, then said "screw it, this is too funny to kill". I figured that if I had stayed and pressed my luck, I would have died, and that I had stood my ground, I would have died, so why fight it?
on the flip side of that.........how desperate must one be to run for 2 whole sectors?
After the first 1/2 sector, I stopped caring. I thought it was so funny to watch their escepades, that I flew around my base and didn't go in the dar just to see how long they would keep it up. I even throttled back so they could stay at 3k away I'm convinced they would have kept it up till their fuel ran dry.
What did you do to piss them off enough to chase you down for that long? Were you being a picker from 10k above the fight? vulching? HOing? (8x 50cals, right? Full ammo load, right?)
To be fair, sometimes I let a wounded bird go, but I may chase one down for vendetta, or spend 40 minutes chasing an intact bird just to piss him off because he won't engage.... You never know what you'll get.
I guess you could say I was vulching the guys hunting tanks. But past thag, all I did was dive in from 3k to get some speed. The P-47N was 999000, I guess its possible he said "shoot that bastard down" when his wing broke off.
Motherland, you don't believe that a spitfire can fly 2 sectors or that it would? I throttled back a bit to let them keep up with me. I wanted to see how far they would follow.
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I throttled back a bit to let them keep up with me. I wanted to see how far they would follow.
So you inticed them to follow you which ends up getting you killed and then you come here to complain about it...
:rofl
You're correct How Sad...
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So you purposely slowed down, then whine about how they catch you and kill you. You related to warphoenix?
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Yesterday, i was flying in my P-47M, and after some fighters, and a P-47N making a pass at some tanks made some passes at the base, loosing my left gear, oil, and my aux fuel tank. After 1 min or so of flying, I realize there is a spit 16, and a Ki84 chasing me. They dogged me for two sectors till my engine finaly died, and the spit 16 got the kill after HO'ing me. How desperate for a kill do you have to be to follow someone for two whole sectors, for the CHANCE at getting a kill? It wasn't even a guarenteed kill for either of them, since there were 2.
Yesterday was Tuesday, after all.
I think you should have been elated that you only had two cons to deal with. I'd have about faced with glee... typically, its that 17th guy that does me in.
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I figured that if I had stayed and pressed my luck, I would have died, and that I had stood my ground, I would have died, so why fight it?
Because ultimately in the end ... you died anyways ... you could have at least made a fight out of it while your plane was still working.
After all these years playing this game, I still can't understand the "fear" of dieing in a virtual game where you really NEVER DIE.
There is no shame in putting up a good fight and dieing.
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So you purposely slowed down, then whine about how they catch you and kill you. You related to warphoenix?
Not whining, just saying that you must be pretty desperate to follow a damaged plane for 2 sectors. But I guess its not really accurate since I slowed down a bit after the first 1/2 sector.
to be clear to all, I'm not whining and saying getting mad. I don't really care that i died since its a cartoon world with infinite lives. I'm just saying that if you fly 2 sectors to get one kill on a damaged plane, your not very good.
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You cared enough to post here.
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After all these years playing this game, I still can't understand the "fear" of dieing in a virtual game where you really NEVER DIE.
New guys... read this...
Over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over again, until your eyeballs pop out of their sockets and blood shoots out of your nose.
Turn the F around and fight.
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Yesterday, i was flying in my P-47M, and after some fighters, and a P-47N making a pass at some tanks made some passes at the base, loosing my left gear, oil, and my aux fuel tank. After 1 min or so of flying, I realize there is a spit 16, and a Ki84 chasing me. They dogged me for two sectors till my engine finaly died, and the spit 16 got the kill after HO'ing me. How desperate for a kill do you have to be to follow someone for two whole sectors, for the CHANCE at getting a kill? It wasn't even a guarenteed kill for either of them, since there were 2.
Sounds like a great opportunity to do some HISPEED roping of a couple tard planes :banana:
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I'm just saying that if you fly 2 sectors to get one kill on a damaged plane, your not very good.
Yet good enough to kill you. ;)
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Nemisis,
Were you the only fighter around? I could see this situation being weak if you werent the only guy there. You got to love seeing a 3rd or 4th guy jumping a damaged plane trying to rtb while there is plenty of other perfect birds trying to kill them/take their base.
:salute
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to be clear to all, I'm not whining and saying getting mad. I don't really care that i died since its a cartoon world with infinite lives. I'm just saying that if you fly 2 sectors to get one kill on a damaged plane, your not very good.
Since when is being in a damaged plane a free pass to return to base? It's like those that call bingo in the middle of a fight expecting to be let go and return to base.
ack-ack
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Since when is being in a damaged plane a free pass to return to base? It's like those that call bingo in the middle of a fight expecting to be let go and return to base.
ack-ack
I let Hoagi RTB once when he was bingo.
I was then instructed never to do it again.
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I let Hoagi RTB once when he was bingo.
I was then instructed never to do it again.
Hoagi deserves to be ganged/HOed/picked every flight for a tour for how much he has already done it
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So you inticed them to follow you which ends up getting you killed and then you come here to complain about it...
:rofl
You're correct How Sad...
youou beat me to it..........
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I let Hoagi RTB once when he was bingo.
I was then instructed never to do it again.
In my opinion, Bingo is a game that old ladies play.
ack-ack
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Now now, if they call out "bingo", do the proper thing and ask them to show you their "card" so you can "stamp and validate" it before they "get up and leave".
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I got into a minor furball yesterday, downed a D9, M Jug and a Nik and was taterless and headed home, a latecoming spixteen chased my undamaged K4 2 sectors, tried for pick on landing, missed, so he augered into the dar.
:headscratch:
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I got into a minor furball yesterday, downed a D9, M Jug and a Nik and was taterless and headed home, a latecoming spixteen chased my undamaged K4 2 sectors, tried for pick on landing, missed, so he augered into the dar.
:headscratch:
Someone tried chasing my 262 when I was landing, he got reversed and ate a tator, giving me my 7th kill :devil
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Since when is being in a damaged plane a free pass to return to base? It's like those that call bingo in the middle of a fight expecting to be let go and return to base.
ack-ack
i have let guys go when they're bingo....especially if it's a good fun fight. same has been done for me. i don't expect it, but i've done it......
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You whined.
After calming down and catching flak from everyone on here you tried to play it off that you thought it was really funny.
Judging from your first post, you didn't find it funny (hence the angry OP).
Wahh...
Next time, write the whine post, then instead of clicking "post," just close the browser.
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I make it a point to chase planes that run for as long as I can. Even if that means vulching them on landing. Unless I see something on 200 like out of ammo.
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You must have done something to pizz em off!
If somebody tees me off with pickin, vulchin etc, I will chase them to the ends of the earth if need be.
Don't care if I die because of it.
I have chased many guys (mostly runstangs) a sector or 2 back to their base and inevitable ack.
If I get em, I get em. if I don't I don't.
Its amazing how far someone will run without turning to fight.
If one of their comrads happen to appear though--guess what??
THEN they turn and fight.
Typical MA behavior. :banana:
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I figured that if I had stayed and pressed my luck, I would have died, and that I had stood my ground, I would have died, so why fight it?
What if you killed them both instead?
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Yesterday, i was flying in my P-47M, and after some fighters, and a P-47N making a pass at some tanks made some passes at the base, loosing my left gear, oil, and my aux fuel tank. After 1 min or so of flying, I realize there is a spit 16, and a Ki84 chasing me. They dogged me for two sectors till my engine finaly died, and the spit 16 got the kill after HO'ing me. How desperate for a kill do you have to be to follow someone for two whole sectors, for the CHANCE at getting a kill? It wasn't even a guarenteed kill for either of them, since there were 2.
If you think that's bad try escaping a furball in a smoking 38. A smoking barn door is like a b@tch in heat walking through a crowd of male dogs. No escape! :D
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Because ultimately in the end ... you died anyways ... you could have at least made a fight out of it while your plane was still working.
After all these years playing this game, I still can't understand the "fear" of dieing in a virtual game where you really NEVER DIE.
There is no shame in putting up a good fight and dieing.
Amen
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Because ultimately in the end ... you died anyways ... you could have at least made a fight out of it while your plane was still working.
After all these years playing this game, I still can't understand the "fear" of dieing in a virtual game where you really NEVER DIE.
There is no shame in putting up a good fight and dieing.
stop that you!! no fun allowed here!! :noid
btw...ya misspelled dying :noid :banana: :airplane: :joystick: :neener:
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Someone tried chasing my 262 when I was landing, he got reversed and ate a tator, giving me my 7th kill :devil
Ahh it's always nice when that happens,unless you would have been the 262. :lol
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Nemisis,
Were you the only fighter around? I could see this situation being weak if you werent the only guy there. You got to love seeing a 3rd or 4th guy jumping a damaged plane trying to rtb while there is plenty of other perfect birds trying to kill them/take their base.
:salute
1 or 2 other guys around, and they were just coming in, and had already passed me. They just wanted an easy kill.
What if you killed them both instead?
Then I would have landed with 4 kills instead of 2. Really not important in the scheme of life.
In my opinion, Bingo is a game that old ladies play.]
ack-ack
Who would have though, ack-ack admiting he plays to kill, and not for fun.
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Really not important in the scheme of life.
But complaining about the two guys chasing you is?
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2 sectors should have been enough to gain some speed and energy advantage I would think. Especially over those two rides, granted your advantage may be fleeting but you could have worked it !
:aok
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here's a link that may be appropriate for this thread...if not...well...it;s still a good tune. :devil :neener:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TLLcvWeiKw
and i remembered the linkie this time!
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Then I would have landed with 4 kills instead of 2. Really not important in the scheme of life.
What about this game is important in the "scheme of life" then? Fighting or dying tired?
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After the first 1/2 sector, I stopped caring.
Then why post?
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Then why post?
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Of course, one could also ask..."how desperate to live do you have to be to run for 2 whole sectors in a broken plane?"
...just sayin'.... :banana:
I agree with this man, what say you Nemesis, about this sage comment?
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i think i got a sleep disorder......
also if im getting chased by two planes all is fair in love an war (ho'ing), i would make a low E 180 turn maintaining speed turn bak for the lead guy (not directly at him though but just enough to make him blow alot of E to get on my 6 and at that ill ho the hek out of the tailing guy (keep in mind fire an forget method) shoot an break off before u get within 800yrds. now hopefully 1 guy is dead and u still have more E on the guy u origanly made turn for your 6. now its a 1 Vs 1 wa la!. that or your dead. :D
please purchase my newly released novel "tard surivival tactics a bagrat story"
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Who would have though, ack-ack admiting he plays to kill, and not for fun.
I guess that's the difference between you and me. I derive my fun from fighting and shooting the other guy down, while apparently your fun is derived from running two sectors and not fighting. I don't know about you, but I think my way is far more enjoyable than yours.
ack-ack
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I once dragged a C205 in a Pony b way behind our lines until he ran out of gas. It was more fun than killing him.
infidelz.
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Then I would have landed with 4 kills instead of 2. Really not important in the scheme of life.
But you wouldn't have died, then wouldn't have gotten mad, wouldn't have posted here, and wouldn't have been wasting all of our time. Though it's not a waste as it's quite amusing.
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I'm just saying that if you fly 2 sectors to get one kill on a damaged plane, your not very good.
Running 2 sectors can also be interpreted as ... "your not very good".
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Wow...I may start flying the 47 more...how do you fly two sectors with an oil leak? If that plane is that tough I need to fly it more often. Two sectors?
Changeup
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Running 2 sectors can also be interpreted as ... "your not very good".
NOT necessarily.......
i had a "vet" run just over 2 sectors in mw.
admittedly, i was setting up to pick him.....but the friendly was asking for help. he ran, i maintained a small alt advantage(less than 2k i think), but couldn't keep up with his corsair. at one point, i got within 1k, and tagged him, but he refused to turn. he finally managed to extend out to almost 3k, i tried turning 90 degrees to see if he'd come back....he didn't, and he didn't land any kills.
i had to go watch the film to see who it was. it was a member of one of the larger squads in mw, which was a little surprising to me.
running in an undamaged airplane, with no kills....... :rolleyes:
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NOT necessarily.......
i had a "vet" run just over 2 sectors in mw.
admittedly, i was setting up to pick him.....but the friendly was asking for help. he ran, i maintained a small alt advantage(less than 2k i think), but couldn't keep up with his corsair. at one point, i got within 1k, and tagged him, but he refused to turn. he finally managed to extend out to almost 3k, i tried turning 90 degrees to see if he'd come back....he didn't, and he didn't land any kills.
i had to go watch the film to see who it was. it was a member of one of the larger squads in mw, which was a little surprising to me.
running in an undamaged airplane, with no kills....... :rolleyes:
:rofl ... there is only 1 large squad in MW and I could most likely guess who the player was.
Also, "vet" does not mean "good" by any stretch of the imagination.
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Wow...I may start flying the 47 more...how do you fly two sectors with an oil leak? If that plane is that tough I need to fly it more often. Two sectors?
Changeup
Oil leaks of are minor immediate consequence in most radial-engined planes.
No radiator = more oil needed to keep engine cool.
More oil = two sectors.
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Oil leaks of are minor immediate consequence in most radial-engined planes.
No radiator = more oil needed to keep engine cool.
More oil = two sectors.
think of the pollution!!
there were polar bears falling out of the cartoon sky!!
:noid
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Threads that blow up in the OP's face are so special.
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i think i got a sleep disorder......
also if im getting chased by two planes all is fair in love an war (ho'ing), i would make a low E 180 turn maintaining speed turn bak for the lead guy (not directly at him though but just enough to make him blow alot of E to get on my 6 and at that ill ho the hek out of the tailing guy (keep in mind fire an forget method) shoot an break off before u get within 800yrds. now hopefully 1 guy is dead and u still have more E on the guy u origanly made turn for your 6. now its a 1 Vs 1 wa la!. that or your dead. :D
please purchase my newly released novel "tard surivival tactics a bagrat story"
:rofl
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In my opinion, Bingo is a game that old ladies play.
ack-ack
The fun part is trying to make them auger when your out of ammo.
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The fun part is trying to make them auger when your out of ammo.
You think making old ladies auger is fun?
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Oil leaks of are minor immediate consequence in most radial-engined planes.
No radiator = more oil needed to keep engine cool.
More oil = two sectors.
I'm confused (admittedly I don't know a lot about aircraft piston engines) - are you saying that a radial engine has a relatively larger overall capacity in the oil system than an in-line, because the radial uses oil for cooling, as opposed to just for lubrication, more than the in-line does - and that means there's more oil to leak so it takes longer for it to run out?
I guess I hadn't noticed because the fighters I fly are almost exclusively radials, except for the occasional Spit XVI which we all know doesn't need oil because it's a UFO.
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I'm confused (admittedly I don't know a lot about aircraft piston engines) - are you saying that a radial engine has a relatively larger overall capacity in the oil system than an in-line, because the radial uses oil for cooling, as opposed to just for lubrication, more than the in-line does - and that means there's more oil to leak so it takes longer for it to run out?
I guess I hadn't noticed because the fighters I fly are almost exclusively radials, except for the occasional Spit XVI which we all know doesn't need oil because it's a UFO.
all internal combustion engines are cooled partly by the engine oil.
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Leave it to you guys to take a run of the mill flaming to a discussion on radial-engines. :old:
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Leave it to you guys to take a run of the mill flaming to a discussion on radial-engines. :old:
that is the way of aces hi forums. :airplane: :joystick: :neener:
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You think making old ladies auger is fun?
i do find it entertaining going to the nursing home stealing all the bingo cards and jellos :devil
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What i like is being call out to get into a GV and fight instead of bombing them in my P-47. I simply reply that 353rd FG is a P-47/P-51 FG, not a GV squad.
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What i like is being call out to get into a GV and fight instead of bombing them in my P-47. I simply reply that 353rd FG is a P-47/P-51 FG, not a GV squad.
don't even honor them with a reply. instead, bring lancs, just to piss em off more. :devil
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don't even honor them with a reply. instead, bring lancs, just to piss em off more. :devil
I like how you think!
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:furious
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don't even honor them with a reply. instead, bring lancs, just to piss em off more. :devil
LOL, i do love the way you think.
I am more effective to bring my P-47. that way i can rearmed- bomb them - rearmed - bomb them as many times as i can. There is nothing more exciting then landing 5-6-9 kills.
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LOL, i do love the way you think.
I am more effective to bring my P-47. that way i can rearmed- bomb them - rearmed - bomb them as many times as i can. There is nothing more exciting then landing 5-6-9 kills.
ya......ut ever heard the saying overkill is just right?
nothin like bringing 42,000 pounds of love for them. :devil :x :airplane:
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What i like is being call out to get into a GV and fight instead of bombing them in my P-47. I simply reply that 353rd FG is a P-47/P-51 FG, not a GV squad.
What I like is being called out to get into a fighter and fight instead of whacking them with my Wirbel. I simply reply that I am a Pig, and I love the mud. :D
:salute
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Every time I see you your warping like greens.. personally i would make it a priority killing you too, especially when you ignore being told.
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ya......ut ever heard the saying overkill is just right?
nothin like bringing 42,000 pounds of love for them. :devil :x :airplane:
LOL
What I like is being called out to get into a fighter and fight instead of whacking them with my Wirbel. I simply reply that I am a Pig, and I love the mud. :D
:salute
I really do know how i would respond to that comment if i call you out into a fighter.
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LOL
I really do know how i would respond to that comment if i call you out into a fighter.
Truth be told, I would fly out and fight ya Oak.
:salute
Way
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I agree with this man, what say you Nemesis, about this sage comment?
I say that I was tired after 3 hours of playing, and a snapshot, and so I decided to see what happens. When I discoed after upping again, I didn't bother to get back on.
The purpose of this thread isn't to whine, I'm saying that it seems newbs are getting more desperate for kills. Some seem to be attempting to turn it into a whine, so to appease them, I will make a single whine post in this thread.
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Why did yu chase me? my oil waz hit and i couldnt fiht you. i slwd down to show yu I cant fiht. teh whoel world is out to get me :noid.
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Why did yu chase me? my oil waz hit and i couldnt fiht you. i slwd down to show yu I cant fiht. teh whoel world is out to get me :noid.
this I dont understand at all??????
cant fight due to oil leak?
dood just last night I got two killz totaly dead stick, like NO engine at all.....why could you not fight due to a oil leak?
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I say that I was tired after 3 hours of playing, and a snapshot, and so I decided to see what happens. When I discoed after upping again, I didn't bother to get back on.
The purpose of this thread isn't to whine, I'm saying that it seems newbs are getting more desperate for kills. Some seem to be attempting to turn it into a whine, so to appease them, I will make a single whine post in this thread.
more often than not, it's the vets that do this.
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Really CAP? Seems like those guys would be starved for a good fight and try to be gentlemen.
And ink, are you being serious, or are you just replying to my fake whine to do it honor and rip gaping holes in it?
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Really CAP? Seems like those guys would be starved for a good fight and try to be gentlemen.
And ink, are you being serious, or are you just replying to my fake whine to do it honor and rip gaping holes in it?
i am serious. when i end up in a jousting contest, it's more often than not a high time pile-it. when i let myself get picked, it's more often than not, a high time pile-it. when i find myself chasing someone, it's more often than not a high time pilot. when i decide to run, and am being chased, it's more often than not a high time pile-it.
the good fights i have are also high time pile-its. snaphook, cobia, dedalos, shuffler, soulss, llgaf, ump40, grizz(in the da), sonic, and a whole slew of others.........
i'll pass on naming the ones that do the other crap, as i'm only trying to make a point, not start a poop flinging contest. :aok
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damn, that just shot my hopes for the newbs. If the vets do that crap, no wonder the newbs are doing it too.
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damn, that just shot my hopes for the newbs. If the vets do that crap, no wonder the newbs are doing it too.
i know.......that's why i always try to help guys whenever i can.....when i can get in the arenas. i'm still at work now,.,....i think i flew 4 hours this month so far.......
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Really CAP? Seems like those guys would be starved for a good fight and try to be gentlemen.
And ink, are you being serious, or are you just replying to my fake whine to do it honor and rip gaping holes in it?
:rofl :rofl well you hooked me....mind removing it please :uhoh
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I don't help people, mostly because it would do nothing since I would die too, so much as let damaged planes limp home.
Can't ink. won't let me.
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I don't help people, mostly because it would do nothing since I would die too, so much as let damaged planes limp home.
Can't ink. won't let me.
well, i've gotten a lot of help from guys here. they offered sometimes....othether times i asked.......either way, i give what i get. i got a lot of help, so i pass on what i can.......and i treat people as they treat me....same as in rl...... :aok
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Yesterday, i was flying in my P-47M, and after some fighters, and a P-47N making a pass at some tanks made some passes at the base, loosing my left gear, oil, and my aux fuel tank. After 1 min or so of flying, I realize there is a spit 16, and a Ki84 chasing me. They dogged me for two sectors till my engine finaly died, and the spit 16 got the kill after HO'ing me. How desperate for a kill do you have to be to follow someone for two whole sectors, for the CHANCE at getting a kill? It wasn't even a guarenteed kill for either of them, since there were 2.
Ok so you expect people to just let you RTB because you are damaged ?? get out of your dream world. Nothing desperate about them chasing you, if you chose to run expect to be chased.
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Ok so you expect people to just let you RTB because you are damaged ?? get out of your dream world. Nothing desperate about them chasing you, if you chose to run expect to be chased.
Listen to xbrit, he's a very wise and extremely old man. Actually surprised he was able to reply, they usually don't let him use the computer at the old folks home.
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Ok so you expect people to just let you RTB because you are damaged ?? get out of your dream world. Nothing desperate about them chasing you, if you chose to run expect to be chased.
i don't generally get damaged. i go straight from flying to falling, due to large things missing. :airplane:
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Yesterday, i was flying in my P-47M, and after some fighters, and a P-47N making a pass at some tanks made some passes at the base, loosing my left gear, oil, and my aux fuel tank. After 1 min or so of flying, I realize there is a spit 16, and a Ki84 chasing me. They dogged me for two sectors till my engine finaly died, and the spit 16 got the kill after HO'ing me. How desperate for a kill do you have to be to follow someone for two whole sectors, for the CHANCE at getting a kill? It wasn't even a guarenteed kill for either of them, since there were 2.
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I'm not sure what the problem was with the two planes chasing you for 2 sectors or 15 sectors. This game is all about getting the kill. As far as hoeing goes get over that ridicules idea. Hoeing is part of aerial dogfighting. It has always been kill or be kill. You can move to avoid remove yourself from being shot head on. The flying tigers use hoeing when engaging the enemy. To many times people gripe about being hoed but it always takes 2 for this to happen AVOID. THE WAY I SEE IT IF A PLANE flays nose to nose AND ENTERS MY GUN CONVERGENCE I shoot because he hoed first whether or not a shot was ever fired. Hoeing doesn't always begin with shooting it begins with the action of the other pilot facing you.
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I'm not sure what your problem was with the two planes chasing you for 2 sectors or 15 sectors this game is about getting the kill. As far as hoeing goes get over that ridicules idea. Hoeing as many put it is part of aerial dogfighting has always been that kill or be kill. You can move to avoid remove yourself from being shot head on. The flying tigers use hoeing when engaging the enemy. To many times people gripe about being ho but it always takes 2 for this to happen AVOID. THE WAY I SEE IT IF A PLANE COMES AT ME nose to nose AND ENTERS MY GUN CONVERGENCE I shoot because to me he hoed first whether or not he ever shot a shell. Hoeing doesn't always begin with shooting it begins with the action of the other pilot facing u.
is english your first language?
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I'm not sure what the problem was with the two planes chasing you for 2 sectors or 15 sectors. This game is all about getting the kill. As far as hoeing goes get over that ridicules idea. Hoeing is part of aerial dogfighting. It has always been kill or be kill. You can move to avoid remove yourself from being shot head on. The flying tigers use hoeing when engaging the enemy. To many times people gripe about being hoed but it always takes 2 for this to happen AVOID. THE WAY I SEE IT IF A PLANE flays nose to nose AND ENTERS MY GUN CONVERGENCE I shoot because he hoed first whether or not a shot was ever fired. Hoeing doesn't always begin with shooting it begins with the action of the other pilot facing you.
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there is so much wrong with this I dont know where to begin.
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Great first post. To fit in with these forums I suggest making a new thread for every thought that comes through your head, it's really the only way to gain any respect around here. Definitely don't worry about grammar or spelling or any of that junk, it's completely unnecessary on the internet. Most importantly, I can't stress this enough, pretend you know everything about this game, WWII, and the military in general. Even if you don't, it's best to make something up, no one on here has any real knowledge or wisdom. You're the boss man, don't take any crap from anyone!
Welcome to the Forums!
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Yesterday, i was flying in my P-47M, and after some fighters, and a P-47N making a pass at some tanks made some passes at the base, loosing my left gear, oil, and my aux fuel tank. After 1 min or so of flying, I realize there is a spit 16, and a Ki84 chasing me. They dogged me for two sectors till my engine finaly died, and the spit 16 got the kill after HO'ing me. How desperate for a kill do you have to be to follow someone for two whole sectors, for the CHANCE at getting a kill? It wasn't even a guarenteed kill for either of them, since there were 2.
Nearly exact thing happened to me, 'cept I was in a 47N, had just dropped my bombs, killed their GV hanger, continued a very fast dive away, killing a low flying con, a strafing a spit who then followed me on a very wide curve thru three sectors slowly losing ground the entire trip, failed to call for help from 2 high team-mates above us who could have dove on me. I did nap of the earth the entire way back & he never gained, pulling up and away as I approached the base. What did he hope for? Me to run out of gas? His time & His $14.95. He can waste it any way he wants :rofl
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FLAYS! HA! :rofl
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I say that I was tired after 3 hours of playing, and a snapshot, and so I decided to see what happens. When I discoed after upping again, I didn't bother to get back on.
The purpose of this thread isn't to whine, I'm saying that it seems newbs are getting more desperate for kills. Some seem to be attempting to turn it into a whine, so to appease them, I will make a single whine post in this thread.
ok look at it like this:
You: Fly two sectors to NOT DIE
They: Fly two sectors to GET A KILL
which is more pointless?
S!
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I'm not sure what the problem was with the two planes chasing you for 2 sectors or 15 sectors. This game is all about getting the kill. As far as hoeing goes get over that ridicules idea. Hoeing is part of aerial dogfighting. It has always been kill or be kill. You can move to avoid remove yourself from being shot head on. The flying tigers use hoeing when engaging the enemy. To many times people gripe about being hoed but it always takes 2 for this to happen AVOID. THE WAY I SEE IT IF A PLANE flays nose to nose AND ENTERS MY GUN CONVERGENCE I shoot because he hoed first whether or not a shot was ever fired. Hoeing doesn't always begin with shooting it begins with the action of the other pilot facing you.
hehe you have learned little since being here I see.
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The harder the other guy tries to survive, the more satisfying the kill- it's been like this for years. There are obviously exceptions, but they don't typically include the unwashed masses who whine on the forums. They proved themselves by fighting back, not by crying. There's no crying in cartoon war.
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Leave it to you guys to take a run of the mill flaming to a discussion on radial-engines. :old:
Yeah, and just as easily, a discussion on oil lubrication of radial engines can turn into a name-calling flamefest inside of 1.125 posts. The bbs is like that...
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If they put up a good fight, I have no problem letting them make it home. If they just zoomed back and forth or dropped down to try to pick you in another fight.... I have no problem shooting them.
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The flying tigers use hoeing when engaging the enemy.
Using the Flying Tigers as a reason why to HO is poor ...
The ONLY reason that they did that was because the .50 cals that they had could reach out farther than their opponents ammo could. They would try to snipe them LONG RANGE with head on shots before the Japanese could get into range with their guns. I can guarantee that the Flying Tigers didn't stick around for the head on once they got within range of the Japanese guns.
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You signed up in 2008 and waited until you had something worthwhile to say and that's what came out? Sheesh. :x
I'm not sure what the problem was with the two planes chasing you for 2 sectors or 15 sectors. This game is all about getting the kill. As far as hoeing goes get over that ridicules idea. Hoeing is part of aerial dogfighting. It has always been kill or be kill. You can move to avoid remove yourself from being shot head on. The flying tigers use hoeing when engaging the enemy. To many times people gripe about being hoed but it always takes 2 for this to happen AVOID. THE WAY I SEE IT IF A PLANE flays nose to nose AND ENTERS MY GUN CONVERGENCE I shoot because he hoed first whether or not a shot was ever fired. Hoeing doesn't always begin with shooting it begins with the action of the other pilot facing you.
Egad. At this rate of descent, you are going to be PnG'd by your 5th post. :O :rolleyes:
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Using the Flying Tigers as a reason why to HO is poor ...
The ONLY reason that they did that was because the .50 cals that they had could reach out farther than their opponents ammo could. They would try to snipe them LONG RANGE with head on shots before the Japanese could get into range with their guns. I can guarantee that the Flying Tigers didn't stick around for the head on once they got within range of the Japanese guns.
actually(and i could be wrong) i thought i had read that the tigers used more of a "hit n run" type of combat againstg the Japanese.
it was the Japanese that were taught to ho the p40's as that was their only real chance against em.
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actually(and i could be wrong) i thought i had read that the tigers used more of a "hit n run" type of combat againstg the Japanese.
it was the Japanese that were taught to ho the p40's as that was their only real chance against em.
That might be, but the Flying Tigers basically made the "HO" famous and they used it for the reasons I explained ... they could tear up a Japanese cockpit way before the Japanese pilot could get within range with his guns.
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That might be, but the Flying Tigers basically made the "HO" famous and they used it for the reasons I explained ... they could tear up a Japanese cockpit way before the Japanese pilot could get within range with his guns.
Not to mention the fact that the P40s cockpit was armored and the opponents were not. They flew mostly against ki-27s and some ki-43s which were not heavily armed.
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Another famous topic is "Chuck Yeager HOed"
But he went head on against a 190 and got shot down...
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You can see several Hos in downtown Houston. That don't make it right.
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I'm not sure what the problem was with the two planes chasing you for 2 sectors or 15 sectors. This game is all about getting the kill. As far as hoeing goes get over that ridicules idea. Hoeing is part of aerial dogfighting. It has always been kill or be kill. You can move to avoid remove yourself from being shot head on. The flying tigers use hoeing when engaging the enemy. To many times people gripe about being hoed but it always takes 2 for this to happen AVOID. THE WAY I SEE IT IF A PLANE flays nose to nose AND ENTERS MY GUN CONVERGENCE I shoot because he hoed first whether or not a shot was ever fired. Hoeing doesn't always begin with shooting it begins with the action of the other pilot facing you.
If the game is all about getting the kill, why don't you de-ack a field and sit at the end of the runway and just shoot everything that ups... pretty easy to do in a osty? Because its more about playing the game than that, thats why.
A nose on nose merge is just that, a MERGE. A HO happens when some bozo starts firering his guns from a 1000 feet out and doesn't let up until he's past the enemy plane. All this does is IF the bozo hits it ends the fight. Seeing as the is a combat game why would you do your best to stop the combat from happening when your first....and only move... is a HO? Because you are unskilled in BFM and ACM and really havn't a clue as to HOW to win a fight, thats why.
Nearly exact thing happened to me, 'cept I was in a 47N, had just dropped my bombs, killed their GV hanger, continued a very fast dive away, killing a low flying con, a strafing a spit who then followed me on a very wide curve thru three sectors slowly losing ground the entire trip, failed to call for help from 2 high team-mates above us who could have dove on me. I did nap of the earth the entire way back & he never gained, pulling up and away as I approached the base. What did he hope for? Me to run out of gas? His time & His $14.95. He can waste it any way he wants :rofl
Your as bad as the OP. Where in all that is the combat? All you did was drop some bombs on a static target, picked a con that was on the deck and failed to pick the second one. Then you ran for 3 sectors. Why didn't you turn and fight the spit? Because like the above poster, you are unskilled in BFM and ACM and really havn't a clue as to HOW to win a fight, thats why.
This game is all about combat. Everything is geared toward and designed to provide ample opportunities for combat. Why do you avoid it? If you really hate combat get yourself a copy of Microsofts "Flight Simulator". It's a one time fee to purchase the game..... no monthly fees!! So it saves you money !!! You can fly to your hearts content and no a single soul will every shoot you down.
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Don't take it the wrong way.. I'm just poking fun at ya :aok These things are going to happen continuosly bro !! Just grab another cartoon bird and go hand him his arse ... then POST that !!!! Keep at it :salute
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Your as bad as the OP. Where in all that is the combat? All you did was drop some bombs on a static target, picked a con that was on the deck and failed to pick the second one. Then you ran for 3 sectors. Why didn't you turn and fight the spit? Because like the above poster, you are unskilled in BFM and ACM and really havn't a clue as to HOW to win a fight, thats why.
I resent that. I admit i'm pretty much a newb, and that i have a lot to learn. But I'm not a complete fail like that guy either.
And guys, THIS THREAD ISN'T A WHINE. NO WHERE DID I COMPLAIN. All I did was state what happened, implying that you have to be starved for a kill, or too scared to get into a real fight to chase a plane for two sectors INTO ENEMY TERRITORY.
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or too scared to get into a real fight to chase a plane for two sectors INTO ENEMY TERRITORY.
The above portion of your comment can also be said of the person that tucked tail and ran two sectors. Just sayin'.
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actually(and i could be wrong) i thought i had read that the tigers used more of a "hit n run" type of combat againstg the Japanese.
it was the Japanese that were taught to ho the p40's as that was their only real chance against em.
Come in higher, stay fast, hit and run, ho the snot out of them, and don't ever turn with them. Chenault had been fighting the Japanese for some time before he formed the AVG and had picked up a thing or two. Like Slap and Raptor had pointed out, the P-40s werent facing cannon armed birds.
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Not really scared to fight, more like I was tired and didn't figure another kill was worth the effort. As I said, when I discoed after uping on the next flight, I just turned off the computer and went to bed. I would have landed with 4 kills instead of 2, only matters if you're looking for a 'wtg' from your buddies after you land.
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Not really scared to fight, more like I was tired and didn't figure another kill was worth the effort. As I said, when I discoed after uping on the next flight, I just turned off the computer and went to bed. I would have landed with 4 kills instead of 2, only matters if you're looking for a 'wtg' from your buddies after you land.
if you're looking at a possible fight as "effort", you should sit back, and re-assess why you're here.
fun should never be work. :aok
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Not really scared to fight, more like I was tired and didn't figure another kill was worth the effort. As I said, when I discoed after uping on the next flight, I just turned off the computer and went to bed. I would have landed with 4 kills instead of 2, only matters if you're looking for a 'wtg' from your buddies after you land.
You can make all the excuses in the world , what it boils down to is you ran away for 2 sectors from a perfectly good fight. The other guy went out of his way for 2 sectors to give you that opportunity and in this game of COMBAT, you turned him down, and then tried to ridicule him here on the boards. Just saying.
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FLAYS! HA! :rofl
lol yes i agree
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If the game is all about getting the kill, why don't you de-ack a field and sit at the end of the runway and just shoot everything that ups... pretty easy to do in a osty? Because its more about playing the game than that, thats why.
A nose on nose merge is just that, a MERGE. A HO happens when some bozo starts firering his guns from a 1000 feet out and doesn't let up until he's past the enemy plane. All this does is IF the bozo hits it ends the fight. Seeing as the is a combat game why would you do your best to stop the combat from happening when your first....and only move... is a HO? Because you are unskilled in BFM and ACM and really havn't a clue as to HOW to win a fight, thats why.
Your as bad as the OP. Where in all that is the combat? All you did was drop some bombs on a static target, picked a con that was on the deck and failed to pick the second one. Then you ran for 3 sectors. Why didn't you turn and fight the spit? Because like the above poster, you are unskilled in BFM and ACM and really havn't a clue as to HOW to win a fight, thats why.
This game is all about combat. Everything is geared toward and designed to provide ample opportunities for combat. Why do you avoid it? If you really hate combat get yourself a copy of Microsofts "Flight Simulator". It's a one time fee to purchase the game..... no monthly fees!! So it saves you money !!! You can fly to your hearts content and no a single soul will every shoot you down.
A nose on nose merge is just that, a MERGE. That's just fine in a 1 vs 1 if it is establish theres to be no hoeing but in the MA this is not what is happening. I flew in several furballs last night not once did the opposition re frame from hoeing period. Great gentleman's rule but rarely upheld. Now then to address the comments you made about my first and only move is a ho and how unskilled I am who has not a clue as to how to win a fight. Fugitive you have no clue to my first move in aerial combat or how skilled or unskilled I am at playing this game. I have read your other post and it seems they all have a common theme. Negative no Positive! Next time try to actually think before you open mouth and insert foot. I'm sure that I have shot you down in combat probably more than once..... to win a fight that's why!!!
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You can make all the excuses in the world , what it boils down to is you ran away for 2 sectors from a perfectly good fight. The other guy went out of his way for 2 sectors to give you that opportunity and in this game of COMBAT, you turned him down, and then tried to ridicule him here on the boards. Just saying.
Look more negative from Fugitive!
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Listen to xbrit, he's a very wise and extremely old man. Actually surprised he was able to reply, they usually don't let him use the computer at the old folks home.
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Hey you say this is one of them pooter thingies?? wondered what it was sat on this desk so I read what the young'n wrote and it was just plain(plane) silly.
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All I did was state what happened, implying that you have to be starved for a kill, or too scared to get into a real fight to chase a plane for two sectors INTO ENEMY TERRITORY.
Wrong ... they guy(s) chasing your weren't scared to fight ... you were.
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Wrong ... they guy(s) chasing your weren't scared to fight ... you were.
ain't it fun, watching someone beat themselves at their own argument? :devil
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A nose on nose merge is just that, a MERGE. That's just fine in a 1 vs 1 if it is establish theres to be no hoeing but in the MA this is not what is happening. I flew in several furballs last night not once did the opposition re frame from hoeing period. Great gentleman's rule but rarely upheld. Now then to address the comments you made about my first and only move is a ho and how unskilled I am who has not a clue as to how to win a fight. Fugitive you have no clue to my first move in aerial combat or how skilled or unskilled I am at playing this game. I have read your other post and it seems they all have a common theme. Negative no Positive! Next time try to actually think before you open mouth and insert foot. I'm sure that I have shot you down in combat probably more than once..... to win a fight that's why!!!
So whats your ingame name? I don't hide behind a BBS name, I'm the Fugitive here, and in the game. Same guy, same "persona" What you see is what you get.
Maybe you have shot me down, but that isn't what we are talking about here. The reason I posted as I did is you posted this.... "THE WAY I SEE IT IF A PLANE flays nose to nose AND ENTERS MY GUN CONVERGENCE I shoot because he hoed first whether or not a shot was ever fired." So seeing as most merges are nose to nose it looks like your first move is the HO. You said you shoot "whether or not a shot was ever fired". Your not merging, your HOing.
My posts may seem negative to you and many others because I point out the negative side of game play. My purpose is to maybe educate players as to some of the more "lame" things a lot of people do. If 1 in 10 adds a bit more honor to his flying/fighting game play then I'm happy. If more people took the time to learn how to really play the game instead of trying to defend poor game play like the OP and your self posted here, everyone would have more fun and less frustration. Your the one who is negative. You posted..."Great gentleman's rule but rarely upheld.". Your saying that you accept how things are. Your playing in a cess pool and your happy with it. Me, I'm looking for a change to the more positive side. I hope that there will be change and that for the better, not worst.
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if you're looking at a possible fight as "effort", you should sit back, and re-assess why you're here.
fun should never be work. :aok
I'm here to have fun, but after 4 hours of combat, and an epic snapshot, its not as enjoyable for me. Concider it pilot fatigue.
And fugitive, are you saying that you would rather 'give a possibly severely damaged plane the opportunity to fight you' (by which I mean chase) for two sectors, rather than stay near base and fight the inbound cons? From where I'm sitting, thats avoiding a fair fight. You're entitled to your oppinion, just as I'm entitled to mine.
And slapshot, notice how I'm talking about a fair fight. 1v1 on a damaged plane is fair (at least in my mind), but 2v1 on a damaged plane isn't. Upto 3v1 on an undamaged plane is fair in my mind.
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I'm here to have fun, but after 4 hours of combat, and an epic snapshot, its not as enjoyable for me. Concider it pilot fatigue.
And fugitive, are you saying that you would rather 'give a possibly severely damaged plane the opportunity to fight you' (by which I mean chase) for two sectors, rather than stay near base and fight the inbound cons? From where I'm sitting, thats avoiding a fair fight. You're entitled to your oppinion, just as I'm entitled to mine.
And slapshot, notice how I'm talking about a fair fight. 1v1 on a damaged plane is fair (at least in my mind), but 2v1 on a damaged plane isn't. Upto 3v1 on an undamaged plane is fair in my mind.
i log out as soon as it's making me feel anything besides fun. sounds like you pushed well beyond that.
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So whats your ingame name? I don't hide behind a BBS name, I'm the Fugitive here, and in the game. Same guy, same "persona" What you see is what you get.
Maybe you have shot me down, but that isn't what we are talking about here. The reason I posted as I did is you posted this.... "THE WAY I SEE IT IF A PLANE flays nose to nose AND ENTERS MY GUN CONVERGENCE I shoot because he hoed first whether or not a shot was ever fired." So seeing as most merges are nose to nose it looks like your first move is the HO. You said you shoot "whether or not a shot was ever fired". Your not merging, your HOing.
My posts may seem negative to you and many others because I point out the negative side of game play. My purpose is to maybe educate players as to some of the more "lame" things a lot of people do. If 1 in 10 adds a bit more honor to his flying/fighting game play then I'm happy. If more people took the time to learn how to really play the game instead of trying to defend poor game play like the OP and your self posted here, everyone would have more fun and less frustration. Your the one who is negative. You posted..."Great gentleman's rule but rarely upheld.". Your saying that you accept how things are. Your playing in a cess pool and your happy with it. Me, I'm looking for a change to the more positive side. I hope that there will be change and that for the better, not worst.
lol Again with the negativity --->[So whats your ingame name? I don't hide behind a BBS name,]<---Whats up with that? Is this what you call a positive post? Here is another one....Your playing in a cess pool and your happy with it. lol Your playing in the same pool dude. If your that unhappy get out of the pool simple as that. For myself I like the game are else I wouldn't play. I'm sorry you think "(think being the key here)" that its your place to point out the negative side of the game play to me or anyone else well it is not. Again you wrote its your purpose to maybe educate players as to some of the more "lame" things a lot of people do.....Just a minute buddy your purpose is to play a game for fun, nothing more nothing less and as far as educating players that is AH's place not yours! Of course if someone ask for your help that would be diffrent. Your entitle to your own opinions just as everyone else is entitle to theirs. As far as your comments like [" If more people took the time to learn how to really play the game instead of trying to defend poor game play like the OP and your self posted here, everyone would have more fun and less frustration. "] NEGATIVE get over yourself AH has taught us all with much success. New people are going to join AH and play its what keeps this game alive without fresh faces the game might stop. Loose the negative attitude if someone post there is no need to reply with ugly witty useless bs like the one above. I' m certain about one thing for sure Fugitive is that you will reply back with more well worded crafty negetive crap well ok then. If you need to have the last word go for it. For me this isn't going any where so I want give this post the time of day again. :cool
ps. You would freak if I were to give you my ingame ID :airplane:
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Yeah, my squadie needed help, and I went to help him. I don't usually play anymore than 2 hours when there is a snapshot going on, and about 3 without. I'm probably going to go selectively deaf if that crap happens again.
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lol Again with the negativity --->[So whats your ingame name? I don't hide behind a BBS name,]<---Whats up with that? Is this what you call a positive post? Here is another one....Your playing in a cess pool and your happy with it. lol Your playing in the same pool dude. If your that unhappy get out of the pool simple as that. For myself I like the game are else I wouldn't play. I'm sorry you think "(think being the key here)" that its your place to point out the negative side of the game play to me or anyone else well it is not. Again you wrote its your purpose to maybe educate players as to some of the more "lame" things a lot of people do.....Just a minute buddy your purpose is to play a game for fun, nothing more nothing less and as far as educating players that is AH's place not yours! Of course if someone ask for your help that would be diffrent. Your entitle to your own opinions just as everyone else is entitle to theirs. As far as your comments like [" If more people took the time to learn how to really play the game instead of trying to defend poor game play like the OP and your self posted here, everyone would have more fun and less frustration. "] NEGATIVE get over yourself AH has taught us all with much success. New people are going to join AH and play its what keeps this game alive without fresh faces the game might stop. Loose the negative attitude if someone post there is no need to reply with ugly witty useless bs like the one above. I' m certain about one thing for sure Fugitive is that you will reply back with more well worded crafty negetive crap well ok then. If you need to have the last word go for it. For me this isn't going any where so I want give this post the time of day again. :cool
ps. You would freak if I were to give you my ingame ID :airplane:
didn't read your whole post.....but if you follow the boards, you'd note that fugitive is one of the few that seem to offer help here on a regular basis.
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I run on a regular basis. Especially when someone tries to turn me in a jug after dropping ord. It "Runs" really well & If I was there to de-ak and I'm not proficient enough in a jug to win very many dog-fights, then I've done what I came to do. If I have a target of oportunity while diving/leaving, YUP! I'm gonna take it, but then I'm gonna run. I doesn't hurt my feelers what someone else thinks, either. :D
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I run on a regular basis. Especially when someone tries to turn me in a jug after dropping ord. It "Runs" really well & If I was there to de-ak and I'm not proficient enough in a jug to win very many dog-fights, then I've done what I came to do. If I have a target of oportunity while diving/leaving, YUP! I'm gonna take it, but then I'm gonna run. I doesn't hurt my feelers what someone else thinks, either. :D
You admit that you are not very proficient in a jug to win, how are you going to learn to fight with the plane if all you do is run? Who knows, after a bunch of fights you might find out the you are NOW a bit more proficient.
lol Again with the negativity --->[So whats your ingame name? I don't hide behind a BBS name,]<---Whats up with that? Is this what you call a positive post? Here is another one....Your playing in a cess pool and your happy with it. lol Your playing in the same pool dude. If your that unhappy get out of the pool simple as that. For myself I like the game are else I wouldn't play. I'm sorry you think "(think being the key here)" that its your place to point out the negative side of the game play to me or anyone else well it is not. Again you wrote its your purpose to maybe educate players as to some of the more "lame" things a lot of people do.....Just a minute buddy your purpose is to play a game for fun, nothing more nothing less and as far as educating players that is AH's place not yours! Of course if someone ask for your help that would be diffrent. Your entitle to your own opinions just as everyone else is entitle to theirs. As far as your comments like [" If more people took the time to learn how to really play the game instead of trying to defend poor game play like the OP and your self posted here, everyone would have more fun and less frustration. "] NEGATIVE get over yourself AH has taught us all with much success. New people are going to join AH and play its what keeps this game alive without fresh faces the game might stop. Loose the negative attitude if someone post there is no need to reply with ugly witty useless bs like the one above. I' m certain about one thing for sure Fugitive is that you will reply back with more well worded crafty negetive crap well ok then. If you need to have the last word go for it. For me this isn't going any where so I want give this post the time of day again. :cool
ps. You would freak if I were to give you my ingame ID :airplane:
LOL!!! WOW, just WOW !
Hiding behind a shade now. LOL!! I guess you are worried about what people think of you in the game, seeing as you can't let out your "real" name! A true coward.
I play to have fun yes, I post to try and help educate some people. See the difference there? Yes I believe the arenas are turning into cesspools, HTC had thought so too. That's one of the reasons we got split arenas. I stay because the core of the game is the best on line. Unfortunately there is is too much crap going on in the arenas. I hope to enlighten some, or at least point out that there are problems and if the community doesn't solve some of them there will be changes made that might NOT be fun.
As an example, the DA squads now are tied to the MA's, closing the hole used to get around chat bands. A number of "squads" in the DA aren't real happy with how things turned out, but they could have taken control of things, but instead continued with the trash and now thy are stuck with the fix HTC decided for them.
As you said, I can have an opinion and mine is geared toward making a better community. Yours, well I guess the community can see for themselves.
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Lol, this thread deteriorated in nothing flat. Now everyone is taking knocks at everyone else :devil.
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i log out as soon as it's making me feel anything besides fun. sounds like you pushed well beyond that.
:airplane: Totally agree Cap, if someone or something makes me start to get PO I log out. I see so many people makes fools of their selves on 200 because they get angry,
that only makes them look stupid. I fined that at least 95% of the merges turn into a HO meaning they start firing. I use to try to fire back but usually that only ended with a
collide or getting shot down. I have now tried to avoid the HO at all cost and have been getting much better k/d ratio plus it is more fun to watch them try to
reestablish a gun solution after they miss.
As far as OP if a person wants to chase some across the map let them it is part of the game. It depends on circumstance weather I chase someone or not.
A lot of times I have chased them just for the fun of it and pulled up beside a wounded airplane just to let them know I could shoot him down then give a <S> and fly home.
Other day had a good 1v1 going with Pervert I ran out of fuel close to his base I told him out of fuel and made the ditch landing, he landed beside me a gave a <S>
took and took off again, I thought that was showing class :cheers: and a understanding of having fun in the game.
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lol Again with the negativity --->[So whats your ingame name? I don't hide behind a BBS name,]<---Whats up with that? Is this what you call a positive post? Here is another one....Your playing in a cess pool and your happy with it. lol Your playing in the same pool dude. If your that unhappy get out of the pool simple as that. For myself I like the game are else I wouldn't play. I'm sorry you think "(think being the key here)" that its your place to point out the negative side of the game play to me or anyone else well it is not. Again you wrote its your purpose to maybe educate players as to some of the more "lame" things a lot of people do.....Just a minute buddy your purpose is to play a game for fun, nothing more nothing less and as far as educating players that is AH's place not yours! Of course if someone ask for your help that would be diffrent. Your entitle to your own opinions just as everyone else is entitle to theirs. As far as your comments like [" If more people took the time to learn how to really play the game instead of trying to defend poor game play like the OP and your self posted here, everyone would have more fun and less frustration. "] NEGATIVE get over yourself AH has taught us all with much success. New people are going to join AH and play its what keeps this game alive without fresh faces the game might stop. Loose the negative attitude if someone post there is no need to reply with ugly witty useless bs like the one above. I' m certain about one thing for sure Fugitive is that you will reply back with more well worded crafty negetive crap well ok then. If you need to have the last word go for it. For me this isn't going any where so I want give this post the time of day again. :cool
ps. You would freak if I were to give you my ingame ID :airplane:
Apparently you're ashamed. Rightfully so.
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Lol, this thread deteriorated in nothing flat. Now everyone is taking knocks at everyone else :devil.
Unfortunately, that's what happens to most of the threads I've been reading in both this Forum and the Wishlist Forum lately.
I try to incorporate the positive I read and ignore the negative the best I can.
But it can get depressing when players I have a lot of respect for start bashing each other over "opinions" of how this "game" should be played.
I don't know how many threads I've stopped following because it turned into a personal slugfest.
I feel I probably missed out on a lot of good information because of this.
Uh well, I try to go with the flow.
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You admit that you are not very proficient in a jug to win, how are you going to learn to fight with the plane if all you do is run? Who knows, after a bunch of fights you might find out the you are NOW a bit more proficient.
LOL!!! WOW, just WOW !
Hiding behind a shade now. LOL!! I guess you are worried about what people think of you in the game, seeing as you can't let out your "real" name! A true coward.
I play to have fun yes, I post to try and help educate some people. See the difference there? Yes I believe the arenas are turning into cesspools, HTC had thought so too. That's one of the reasons we got split arenas. I stay because the core of the game is the best on line. Unfortunately there is is too much crap going on in the arenas. I hope to enlighten some, or at least point out that there are problems and if the community doesn't solve some of them there will be changes made that might NOT be fun.
As an example, the DA squads now are tied to the MA's, closing the hole used to get around chat bands. A number of "squads" in the DA aren't real happy with how things turned out, but they could have taken control of things, but instead continued with the trash and now thy are stuck with the fix HTC decided for them.
As you said, I can have an opinion and mine is geared toward making a better community. Yours, well I guess the community can see for themselves.
I never said ALWAYS did I? I said regularly. When my speed and turn E is in my favor I fight.....OK? :salute
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ps. You would freak if I were to give you my ingame ID :airplane:
Usually when a player claims to have shot down someone multiple times and then refuses to give his in game call sign is 99% of the time an indicator that the guy making the claim sucks. Just sayin'
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lol this got messy fast, Now everyone.....
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Great thread.............. NOT :bolt:
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Usually when a player claims to have shot down someone multiple times and then refuses to give his in game call sign is 99% of the time an indicator that the guy making the claim sucks. Just sayin'
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So ack the above commit do you have players that claim such? lol I never refuses to give game id but since it brought out the best in you ack ack I believe I'll sit back and enjoy the post being anonymous. :neener: I tell you what ack ack the next time I shoot you down say 2 in a row then I will reveal to you my in game Id by texting ...u sux :)- just saying ....
that's a promise ack ack.
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So ack the above commit do you have players that claim such? lol I never refuses to give game id but since it brought out the best in you ack ack I believe I'll sit back and enjoy the post being anonymous. :neener: I tell you what ack ack the next time I shoot you down say 2 in a row then I will reveal to you my in game Id by texting ...u sux :)- just saying ....
that's a promise ack ack.
Sigh, so we'll never know. :D
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Sigh, so we'll never know. :D
Yup, looks like we'll never know who the nancy-boy is....oh wait, I just checked my care-o-meter and it didn't even budge. Nope, nobody cares who this nancy is.
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Lol, this thread deteriorated in nothing flat. Now everyone is taking knocks at everyone else :devil.
how errr sad..... :rolleyes:
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That might be, but the Flying Tigers basically made the "HO" famous and they used it for the reasons I explained ... they could tear up a Japanese cockpit way before the Japanese pilot could get within range with his guns.
It was Pappy, and he was just too drunk to turn. I know the guy, he is one of my heros, but he was drunk alot of the time, or it was John Wayne and he did not have to worry about the bullets coming at him, he could catch them in his teeth.
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Lol, this thread deteriorated in nothing flat. Now everyone is taking knocks at everyone else :devil.
Thats funny, cause i thought the thread has actualy improved since the first post :P
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So ack the above commit do you have players that claim such? lol I never refuses to give game id but since it brought out the best in you ack ack I believe I'll sit back and enjoy the post being anonymous. :neener: I tell you what ack ack the next time I shoot you down say 2 in a row then I will reveal to you my in game Id by texting ...u sux :)- just saying ....
that's a promise ack ack.
dude........i think you need to go back to school now. :aok
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But it can get depressing when players I have a lot of respect for start bashing each other over "opinions" of how this "game" should be played.
No no no. You have it all wrong. It's entertainment.
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My posts may seem negative to you and many others because I point out the negative side of game play. My purpose is to maybe educate players as to some of the more "lame" things a lot of people do. If 1 in 10 adds a bit more honor to his flying/fighting game play then I'm happy. If more people took the time to learn how to really play the game instead of trying to defend poor game play like the OP and your self posted here, everyone would have more fun and less frustration. Your the one who is negative. You posted..."Great gentleman's rule but rarely upheld.". Your saying that you accept how things are. Your playing in a cess pool and your happy with it. Me, I'm looking for a change to the more positive side. I hope that there will be change and that for the better, not worst.
I would also like to extend this sentiment out to any of the guys in the Gentleman's Club. Learn how to avoid a HO and use it against your opponent. I'm baffled by the nose to nose hold fire ideology and clinging to this philosophy, while noble, is incredibly non practical other than in a dueling environment where rules are in place to promote the quality of fight. If you find yourself with your pants down in a HO situation, either shoot or try to dodge, simple as that really. Flying straight at them while praying they are a pilot who is also in the Gentleman's Club is going to leave you in tower >95% of the time. Perhaps we should wishlist for additional Enemy Icon information that states whether or not the enemy is in the Gentleman's Club so we can adjust accordingly. Until that happens, don't go nose to nose unless you are willing to subject your aircraft to some considerable risk.
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It was Pappy, and he was just too drunk to turn. I know the guy, he is one of my heros, but he was drunk alot of the time, or it was John Wayne and he did not have to worry about the bullets coming at him, he could catch them in his teeth.
lol I knew John Carrol well. We actually lived with them for a time. He was the cocky one in the movie. He also played Zorro in some of the older movies.
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Learn how to avoid a HO and use it against your opponent.
I agree with this approach much more than the approach of "preach and whine". The best way to teach someone not to HO is to make them pay for it by using the poor position they put themselves in due to the HO against them. If they are smart they will figure out that it's a bad move, if they are stupid, welp, easy kills all around.
The game needs a text filter that automatically changes "I got HO'd" to "I let myself get HO'd".
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I would also like to extend this sentiment out to any of the guys in the Gentleman's Club. Learn how to avoid a HO and use it against your opponent. I'm baffled by the nose to nose hold fire ideology and clinging to this philosophy, while noble, is incredibly non practical other than in a dueling environment where rules are in place to promote the quality of fight. If you find yourself with your pants down in a HO situation, either shoot or try to dodge, simple as that really. Flying straight at them while praying they are a pilot who is also in the Gentleman's Club is going to leave you in tower >95% of the time. Perhaps we should wishlist for additional Enemy Icon information that states whether or not the enemy is in the Gentleman's Club so we can adjust accordingly. Until that happens, don't go nose to nose unless you are willing to subject your aircraft to some considerable risk.
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wouldn't a doctors visit be more in order? :noid :noid :bolt: :rofl :banana: :neener:
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So ack the above commit do you have players that claim such? lol I never refuses to give game id but since it brought out the best in you ack ack I believe I'll sit back and enjoy the post being anonymous. :neener: I tell you what ack ack the next time I shoot you down say 2 in a row then I will reveal to you my in game Id by texting ...u sux :)- just saying ....
that's a promise ack ack.
I guess we're going to have to wait a very long time for your scenario to happen. Again, the reason why you're so reluctant to reveal your CPID is for the reasons I stated previously and nothing else.
Instead of waiting until for some chance encounter in the MA for you to show me your 'experten' skills, why don't you just show me in the DA? Oh, wait...that would entail you having to reveal your CPID and face the prospect of getting your arse handed to you.
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Uhmm...title should be "Wow, I made an entire 2 sectors"
Yesterday, i was flying in my P-47M, and after some fighters, and a P-47N making a pass at some tanks made some passes at the base, loosing my left gear, oil, and my aux fuel tank. After 1 min or so of flying, I realize there is a spit 16, and a Ki84 chasing me. They dogged me for two sectors till my engine finaly died, and the spit 16 got the kill after HO'ing me. How desperate for a kill do you have to be to follow someone for two whole sectors, for the CHANCE at getting a kill? It wasn't even a guarenteed kill for either of them, since there were 2.
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I guess we're going to have to wait a very long time for your scenario to happen. Again, the reason why you're so reluctant to reveal your CPID is for the reasons I stated previously and nothing else.
Instead of waiting until for some chance encounter in the MA for you to show me your 'experten' skills, why don't you just show me in the DA? Oh, wait...that would entail you having to reveal your CPID and face the prospect of getting your arse handed to you.
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Last tour you have only 1 instance of two deaths in a 38 by the same guy in the MW and only 3 guys in the MA :D
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The game needs a text filter that automatically changes "I got HO'd" to "I let myself get HO'd".
+1 :aok
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Uhmm...title should be "Wow, I made an entire 2 sectors"
Not really all that hard to do in a 47M. Has a superior top speed than both of them.
I'll tell you what: Play 4 hrs in titanic tuesday trying, un succesfully I might add, to keep TT, and then defend and attacking other bases, and then add a snapshot on top of that, and tell me if you feel like spending the mental effort to fight two opponents in a shot up plane.
If you do, you'll win a trophy.
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honestly Nem, alot of us would happily take that fight on. It's why we play the game.
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If you do, you'll win a trophy.
If I didn't want to play, I'd have just logged off *old rolleyes*
I find myself doing that a lot lately...
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I'm not playing a whole lot either. Especially since we've been running the same 2-3 arenas over and over. Not a whole lot of good fights either.
Oh, and motherland, would you be willing to teach me to fly the P-51? I've been pretty poor in it lately.
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You'd be better off asking someone who flies it regularly... I'd be happy to help you in general, though. On the occasions that I'm on :lol
Which will be about now...
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You'd be better off asking someone who flies it regularly... I'd be happy to help you in general, though. On the occasions that I'm on :lol
Chalenge is definitely the person to talk to. You'll have to really yell, he's flying at 30K :D
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rgr that guys. Thank you.
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Chalenge is definitely the person to talk to
If he flies at 30k regularly, he must not often have stuff to shoot at. Boring?
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Not really all that hard to do in a 47M. Has a superior top speed than both of them.
I'll tell you what: Play 4 hrs in titanic tuesday trying, un succesfully I might add, to keep TT, and then defend and attacking other bases, and then add a snapshot on top of that, and tell me if you feel like spending the mental effort to fight two opponents in a shot up plane.
If you do, you'll win a trophy.
When will you deliver my trophy?
You ran and it's as simple as that. Don't try and spin it to make it look like the other two guys were the dolts, after all, they weren't the ones running. Even with a wounded bird, which from your description sounded like nothing more than a mild engine leak (you were able to run full bore 2 sectors without engine failing), you could have easily exchanged some of your speed for altitude using a spiral climb to gain position and attack from an advantage despite being out numbered 2 to 1.
You just took the easy way out...heck, if you did engage, I'm willing to bet that you would have tried for a HO on each pass...you just seem to be that kind of player.
I'm not playing a whole lot either. Especially since we've been running the same 2-3 arenas over and over. Not a whole lot of good fights either.
If you're not willing to fight and would rather run 2 sectors, how am I not surprised that you have a tough time finding a 'good fight' let alone any fight at all?
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Just keep digging that hole...you go from complaining about a couple guys, to being stoned by the BBS members, there on trying to make yourself an excuse to look like the good guy. Now back to saying how it's their fault.
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If he flies at 30k regularly, he must not often have stuff to shoot at. Boring?
But at least he's saving fuel.
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These types of posts are ruining my work environment so Just for no.2's and giggles
I wasn't going to ...but... what the heck....I often run...the only problem is i find I have run the wrong way and run into many red guys or more often than not the plane I choose can get run down by a chute...when this happens I instinctively set up for the Ho....unfortunately I can't aim well and miss...keeping this in mind I will try my best to get a ram in also......this too usually goes against me and I will say sorry and call myself a doofus for enticing the HO.... now though,thanks to all the insightful posts within this thread I believe I have the answer to my problems and will work on rectifying them hence forth......so from now on ...it is your fault that I have died.....you are all bad pilots and need to go to the TA.....I will not enter into any squabbling about it either...this is how it is so get over it.....I am....that is all.
On the lighter side :cheers: guys... hope to see you in the cartoon skies again soon.....
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Tongs, you, sir, are a tart - do you know how difficult it is to laugh a BLT out of your nose? Do you? Let me tell you, it frigging hurts lol.......
Hope to see you in the virtual soon mate, been too long since you killed errrr, died to my awesome piloting skills (see sig for details)..
:D
Wurzel
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I guess we're going to have to wait a very long time for your scenario to happen. Again, the reason why you're so reluctant to reveal your CPID is for the reasons I stated previously and nothing else.
Instead of waiting until for some chance encounter in the MA for you to show me your 'experten' skills, why don't you just show me in the DA? Oh, wait...that would entail you having to reveal your CPID and face the prospect of getting your arse handed to you.
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:devil lollololololololololol soon lolololol
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:devil lollololololololololol soon lolololol
:devil lollololololololololol doubtful lolololol
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lol, go ahead and keep up the charade because it doesn't matter who you are at this point, you're toast. :bolt:
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MasterBaiter.....this is that comes to mind right now :headscratch:
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Not really all that hard to do in a 47M. Has a superior top speed than both of them.
I'll tell you what: Play 4 hrs in titanic tuesday trying, un succesfully I might add, to keep TT, and then defend and attacking other bases, and then add a snapshot on top of that, and tell me if you feel like spending the mental effort to fight two opponents in a shot up plane.
If you do, you'll win a trophy.
Wow ... you keep shooting yourself in the foot ... better stop now because you only have a couple of toes left.
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How do you ever lose the will to fight? Some of you I'll just never understand...
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:devil lollololololololololol soon lolololol
Are you really still posting? Really?
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:devil lollololololololololol soon lolololol
Hmmm...I guess that means you're not willing to show your 'experten' skills in the DA? Typical. Well, since you're not willing to show in the DA, most likely since you won't have the luxury of a hord to assist you, I can be found most days in the Mid-War arena. If you can muster the testicle fortitude, you should drop in and regale us all with your experten fighting prowess. Sadly, as evidence by your posts that you lack both the necessary testicle fortitude and skill to rise up to such a challenge.
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hehehehe. He said "rise up to a challenge"
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hehehehe. He said "rise up to a challenge"
...ya that's like, what 30k? :D
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Hmmm...I guess that means you're not willing to show your 'experten' skills in the DA? Typical. Well, since you're not willing to show in the DA, most likely since you won't have the luxury of a hord to assist you, I can be found most days in the Mid-War arena. If you can muster the testicle fortitude, you should drop in and regale us all with your experten fighting prowess. Sadly, as evidence by your posts that you lack both the necessary testicle fortitude and skill to rise up to such a challenge.
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I doub't he'll reveal himself in the MWA... no spixteens. :D
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When will you deliver my trophy?
You just took the easy way out...heck, if you did engage, I'm willing to bet that you would have tried for a HO on each pass...you just seem to be that kind of player.
If you're not willing to fight and would rather run 2 sectors, how am I not surprised that you have a tough time finding a 'good fight' let alone any fight at all?
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Here is your trophy:
(http://gaygamer.net/images/pewter_trophy_lrg.jpg)
I hate HO's, its really just a roll of the dice as far as lucky hits, and damaged caused. Really the only think you need to do is point your nose at the other guy, pull the trigger. It takes no real skill (IMO). I'll meet a HO if I'm forced to, but I try to avoid when possible. When that spit started firing at D900, I started spraying back. Can't do much at 115mph and 1.5k.
And yes, theres good fights if you mean big. Last three big fights I've been in had been mostly HO'ing spit 16's and niki's. Gv fights get ruined when lancs come over and carpet bomb the fights, and 38's come in and start attacking the tanks (nothing implied by the 38's, just what I saw).
You're all entitled to your own oppinions. I just wish people would be a bit more honorable when fighting.
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I just wish people would be a bit more honorable when fighting.
I'm pretty sure the guy that was chasing you for two sectors was probably thinking the same thing.
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And yes, theres good fights if you mean big. Last three big fights I've been in had been mostly HO'ing spit 16's and niki's. Gv fights get ruined when lancs come over and carpet bomb the fights, and 38's come in and start attacking the tanks (nothing implied by the 38's, just what I saw).
Ok Nemesis, if you are trying to take my base, and you are GVing, I am going to up in a plane, F6F, Mossie, F4U, anything that carries ords, and I will dive bomb, strafe and do what ever it takes to defend the base. It is part of the game.
As far as the Ho issue, you don't know anymore whether or not you are going to get it, you cant tell who is in the other plane. If I could tell it was CAP, or some of the other guys I would not HO, but you cant tell. If on the Merge you point your nose at me, I will squirt some at you, if I hit so be it, that is not my intention, it is to get you to roll, turn, or climb. If I get you in a HO you deserved it, I cant aim worth a darn. Just one of those things. But by the same card, if I get HO ed I don't whine and cry most of the time. If I know who is flying and they don't usually HO, then when they do I will say something, only because I don't like the whole HEY YOU HOED ME on 200 thing when they are the ones that do it the most, and I will give a guy a chance to say, "well I only had 24 rounds left". Just my .02
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I don't really think going into TT, going JUST close enough to start the base flashing, and then holding in place trying to take a base. I will try to take a TT base back, but after that, I usually hold in place.
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I think we have reached an impass. Neither side will convince the other, and so I think its time for this thread to die.
<S>,
Nemisis
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I think we have reached an impass. Neither side will convince the other, and so I think its time for this thread to die.
<S>,
Nemisis
The above comment can be translated as..."I originally created this thread to whine and portray myself as the matyr but it didn't go as I had planned, now I want this thread to die."
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If you want to take it that way, then fine. But I really see no point in bashing our heads together if neither will give in. Keep it going if you wish, but I'm no longer participating in this fight. Call it what you will, I call it droping out of a fight that can't and won't be won by either side.
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If you want to take it that way, then fine. But I really see no point in bashing our heads together if neither will give in. Keep it going if you wish, but I'm no longer participating in this fight. Call it what you will, I call it droping out of a fight that can't and won't be won by either side.
...sounds like he's avoiding another fight :x
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And yes, theres good fights if you mean big. Last three big fights I've been in had been mostly HO'ing spit 16's and niki's. Gv fights get ruined when lancs come over and carpet bomb the fights, and 38's come in and start attacking the tanks (nothing implied by the 38's, just what I saw).
Ok Nemesis, if you are trying to take my base, and you are GVing, I am going to up in a plane, F6F, Mossie, F4U, anything that carries ords, and I will dive bomb, strafe and do what ever it takes to defend the base. It is part of the game.
As far as the Ho issue, you don't know anymore whether or not you are going to get it, you cant tell who is in the other plane. If I could tell it was CAP, or some of the other guys I would not HO, but you cant tell. If on the Merge you point your nose at me, I will squirt some at you, if I hit so be it, that is not my intention, it is to get you to roll, turn, or climb. If I get you in a HO you deserved it, I cant aim worth a darn. Just one of those things. But by the same card, if I get HO ed I don't whine and cry most of the time. If I know who is flying and they don't usually HO, then when they do I will say something, only because I don't like the whole HEY YOU HOED ME on 200 thing when they are the ones that do it the most, and I will give a guy a chance to say, "well I only had 24 rounds left". Just my .02
my 38's easy to tell.....it's generally falling apart. :noid :noid
seriously, i generally keep her in 80th colors......and thank ya sir.....i take that as a compliment, and appreciate it. :aok
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The above comment can be translated as..."I originally created this thread to whine and portray myself as the matyr but it didn't go as I had planned, now I want this thread to die."
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:rofl Ding ding ding
...sounds like he's avoiding another fight :x
Maybe he learned from this...