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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: pervert on October 13, 2011, 02:23:54 PM

Title: Flight model from ground up on p40
Post by: pervert on October 13, 2011, 02:23:54 PM: What exactly does this mean?? Was there something wrong with the old one? Or all the planes going to get a FM from 'the ground up' if so whats the difference?
Title: Re: Flight model from ground up on p40
Post by: Debrody on October 13, 2011, 02:28:52 PM: Idk, it cant open the flaps over 140 mph now. A total brick. Also the performance/alt curves were redrawn i think.
Title: Re: Flight model from ground up on p40
Post by: oboe on October 13, 2011, 03:04:17 PM: I thought American fighters had a 'manuever' flap setting, but I could be mistaken. Seems like you should be able to extend at greater than 140mph.

I do believe pilots referred to the WarHawk as the "Lead Sled", though.
Title: Re: Flight model from ground up on p40
Post by: Karnak on October 13, 2011, 03:06:49 PM: Quote from: oboe on October 13, 2011, 03:04:17 PM
I thought American fighters had a 'manuever' flap setting, but I could be mistaken.
Not all of them.
Title: Re: Flight model from ground up on p40
Post by: gyrene81 on October 13, 2011, 03:12:41 PM: considering the flaps could be deployed over 200mph on the p-40e, the new setting may be closer to reality if the manuals i have are correct.
Title: Re: Flight model from ground up on p40
Post by: Stang on October 13, 2011, 03:17:28 PM: Yup flap deployment speed is much different. I'm good with it if this is how it's supposed to be.
Title: Re: Flight model from ground up on p40
Post by: Shane on October 13, 2011, 03:28:44 PM: Both the F and N are affected by the lower flap deployemnt threshhold of aorund 130-140... also the flaps will not deploy (lower) if you are banked, even if you're under the speed.

The C (b) and E are same as before, can deploy around 200-225.
Title: Re: Flight model from ground up on p40
Post by: pervert on October 13, 2011, 03:33:37 PM: Would be pretty cool to have a flap wheel controller like the idea of manually opening flaps rather than in notches of flaps.
Title: Re: Flight model from ground up on p40
Post by: gyrene81 on October 13, 2011, 03:40:40 PM: Quote from: pervert on October 13, 2011, 03:33:37 PM
Would be pretty cool to have a flap wheel controller like the idea of manually opening flaps rather than in notches of flaps.
doesn't help the 109s...
Title: Re: Flight model from ground up on p40
Post by: Shuffler on October 13, 2011, 03:52:57 PM: Quote from: pervert on October 13, 2011, 03:33:37 PM
Would be pretty cool to have a flap wheel controller like the idea of manually opening flaps rather than in notches of flaps.

I thought he was winding it up. :)
Title: Re: Flight model from ground up on p40
Post by: Wmaker on October 13, 2011, 05:19:19 PM: Quote from: pervert on October 13, 2011, 02:23:54 PM
What exactly does this mean?? Was there something wrong with the old one? Or all the planes going to get a FM from 'the ground up' if so whats the difference?

It means that the flight models were completely redone from scratch.

For example, P-40C is now ~10mph faster and ~480lbs lighter than the old B.
Title: Re: Flight model from ground up on p40
Post by: pervert on October 13, 2011, 06:08:40 PM: Quote from: gyrene81 on October 13, 2011, 03:40:40 PM
doesn't help the 109s...

I think having full control over how a flap opens could yield a slight advantage if used correctly.
Title: Re: Flight model from ground up on p40
Post by: Plazus on October 13, 2011, 08:44:38 PM: Something just doesn't seem right with the flaps when maneuvering at slower speeds. Sometimes they do not deploy when they are supposed to.
Title: Re: Flight model from ground up on p40
Post by: JOACH1M on October 13, 2011, 08:46:08 PM: The P40 with full flap modeling is messed up, i can pull full back with stall limiter off and it wont stall what so ever