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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: MrGeezer on April 21, 2014, 11:13:04 PM
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Dear HTC folks.
Since many MA subscribers, including me, are asking who, what, why, when, how, and where about players who have more than one account and use that account to their advantage, please answer a simple question in the light of day in front of those like me who pay their $15 a month for a fair & square game....
Easy question HTC, since I am not the only one in-game asking this question every day...what is...officially, in front of the entire subscription paying community, what is the HTC company policy on people who have multiple accounts per household/multiple accounts per single credit card. We want to know because it effects gameplay in all arenas every day.
Thanks.
ROX
PS. Avoiding this issue, stomping this thread would speak VOLUMES.
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spies!
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Ummm... if they're taking money for multiple accounts from the same credit card/household shouldn't you already know the answer?
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Dad wants to play against his son on two different computers from the same household, something I used to do with my son when he still lived at home (just a different game). Two brothers playing against each other...
What's the problem?
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Anecdotal I know, but everyone I've known who "shades".... could give a rats rear end about winning the warz. :noid
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hey dude, dont forget that people have more than one credit cards and more than one bank account. also their wife could have a different name and use a different credit card or bank account. dont forget we have many husbands and wife's who play the game. dont forget there's also paypal.
dont forget that some players sometimes visit other players and play on the same connection. dont forget that there's also two brothers in the same household playing. dont forget that there's also father's and sons playing.
but mostly dont forget that when anything goes wrong it's always blamed on "spiez". because there's no way somebody just made a mistake. I remember the mission from last year noe to the strats we saw them on dar from 3 different bases and they still blamed the "spiez"
but first look at this link, it's the terms of service.
http://www.hitechcreations.com/company-info/support-policies/terms-of-service
then look at this other link, it's a list of rules for the forum.
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,229014.0.html
semp
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Dear HTC folks.
Since many MA subscribers, including me, are asking who, what, why, when, how, and where about players who have more than one account and use that account to their advantage, please answer a simple question in the light of day in front of those like me who pay their $15 a month for a fair & square game....
Easy question HTC, since I am not the only one in-game asking this question every day...what is...officially, in front of the entire subscription paying community, what is the HTC company policy on people who have multiple accounts per household/multiple accounts per single credit card. We want to know because it effects gameplay in all arenas every day.
Thanks.
ROX
PS. Avoiding this issue, stomping this thread would speak VOLUMES.
ROX, what is your specific complaint? Do you feel that your missions are encountering unusual levels of human resistance?
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I bet he was having an awesome time furballing and Tunes came through with all of his accounts and killed the hangars.
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I don't understand the question.
Yes, HTC knows about mult accts in homes and their policy is one of good business practice. Its called "Take the money people want to pay us for the service we provide"
The end.
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Where even to begin on this one... Oh, it's Rox, makes sense... Never mind, it's not worth the text.
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I bet he was having an awesome time furballing and Tunes came through with all of his accounts and killed the hangars.
:lol probably.
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IMO this is really should be a non starter for numerous reasons.
First of all, should it really matter if somebody gets some sort of advantage by having a 2nd account? If it winds you up that much, perhaps you're taking your hobby a little too seriously.
Secondly, this is something that is truly unenforceable IMO. Somebody could set up a secondary or even a tertiary account under the name of another household member who clicks the "ok" button, and use a VPN which now cost 5 dollars per month, and then use a prepaid credit card for payment. With a completely random IP address, so long as the PC had never been used with HTC software before, they would be pretty much untraceable. I believe HTC installs stuff to monitor your hardware, as well as unique information to keep people from abusing the 2 week trial again on a the same PC or IP address, at least that's what I've read here, but again, so long as it was a different PC and a VPN IP address, a person on theory could have shade accounts up the wazoo.
HTC has more than enough on their plate IMO than to go chasing after that sort of thing, and if somebody REALLY wants a secret shade account that badly to jump through all those hoops and pay the extra $ every month - hah, in my opinion they can knock themselves out.
I rarely use the one account I have now, but I will admit I've looked over at the TV I have mounted on a swivel mount in our office, which is run from a home theater PC, and thought that if I really, really took the game super seriously, and played more than the twice every 6 months I'm currently averaging, I COULD put another account on that computer, and have a huge 60" screen to watch events unfold from another country. OHs Nos! Teh Spiez!!
I will admit that the OP question could be clarified by HTC, as I said, I could care less either way, but obviously somebody cares about it enough to ask. The language in HTC's terms of use is a bit vague IMO - Subscribers are expressly prohibited from engaging in any activity that constitutes, in the sole opinion of HiTech Creations, system abuse
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Ok, but what does "sole opinion" actually mean? Does that mean that the "C" word - the word/action that must not be named here - is constituted by having a secondary account for the exact purpose I outlined a paragraph up? Personally, like I said, my opinion is it would be time wasted chasing down that sort of stuff, and that with a tiny bit of effort it would be very, very tough to track in the first place. Also, if there was to be a punishment for such a thing, that would involve losing not just one customer income stream, but at least 2, since a ban would be over 2 accounts being paid for by the same person essentially, right?
I'm with ChangeUp, the bottom line for any small business should be THE BOTTOM line. Get it?
edit - Oh, and laugh out loud Tec.
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ROX, what is your specific complaint? Do you feel that your missions are encountering unusual levels of human resistance?
:rofl
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Dear HTC folks.
Since many MA subscribers, including me, are asking who, what, why, when, how, and where about players who have more than one account and use that account to their advantage, please answer a simple question in the light of day in front of those like me who pay their $15 a month for a fair & square game....
Easy question HTC, since I am not the only one in-game asking this question every day...what is...officially, in front of the entire subscription paying community, what is the HTC company policy on people who have multiple accounts per household/multiple accounts per single credit card. We want to know because it effects gameplay in all arenas every day.
Thanks.
ROX
PS. Avoiding this issue, stomping this thread would speak VOLUMES.
You players who get upset for whatever reason about being required to engage in cartoon combat in this cartoon combat game are a major reason why the game isn't much fun anymore.
You're part of the problem. Stop it.
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I usually open a second account once or twice a year for a month or two. The last one was opened last weekend because of the 12 hour rule. I was having fun but there were too many green guys so the only way for me to keep having fun was to open another account. So you get rid of the 12 hour rule and I'll get rid of my second account.
Actually, I think I will open a third account so I can be everywhere all the time.
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That actually brings up an interesting point, one I never thought of - if the 12 hour side switch thing really, really annoys you (I'm sure it would bother me if I still used my subscription), why not just fork over another 15$ and use that account to "switch" sides with more or less. Once the update comes and if I motivate myself to start participating more, I'm going to do just that I think, if the 12 hour switch policy is still the same.
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You really shouldn't have to though. It's a great way for HTC to make even more money, but why should I spend $15 more a month just to switch sides when we can just lower the side switch time? The idea behind the 12 hour rule is to stop people from switching sides and "spying" (or that's what I hear everyone who defends the 12 hour rule say). It's not stopping people from switching sides if they just create another account. If I could open a second account I would do so immediately, but one account is all I can afford right now.
If the permanent fix for the 12 hour rule is to open another account then the country loyal people will start requesting HTC to make some ridiculous changes to prevent that. Pretty soon you'll need to buy a second computer, open a second bank account, move to Mexico and take on a 2nd identity just to switch sides on a video game!
I think the country loyal people just need to realize not every single person is out to get them.
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I don't see why you don't take all of your kind (vjjs alchetwits) into the Midwar Arena, the numbers there are so small you could take bases unopposed.
Which is exactly how you and your kind want AcesHigh. Mind you your latewar crutches are not available, but don't focus on that.
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I usually open a second account once or twice a year for a month or two. The last one was opened last weekend because of the 12 hour rule. I was having fun but there were too many green guys so the only way for me to keep having fun was to open another account. So you get rid of the 12 hour rule and I'll get rid of my second account.
Actually, I think I will open a third account so I can be everywhere all the time.
Don't feed the wildlife.
In essence that is what you are doing, encouraging and providing htc a monetary incentive to pedal additional money out of you. I contend that it is a losing strategy for them though since it degrades game play which is the result of player decline.
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fair & square
this from a guy who's MO used to be (still is?) to sneak a NOE horde to a field and completely shut it down to avoid any chance of opposition.
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I usually open a second account once or twice a year for a month or two. The last one was opened last weekend because of the 12 hour rule. I was having fun but there were too many green guys so the only way for me to keep having fun was to open another account. So you get rid of the 12 hour rule and I'll get rid of my second account.
Actually, I think I will open a third account so I can be everywhere all the time.
OMG!!!! ROTFLMAO!!!!!!
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OK I will admit it, when my Son lived here he had his own account, ya caught me.
shamus
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:lol probably.
:rofl
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Dear HTC folks.
Since many MA subscribers, including me, are asking who, what, why, when, how, and where about players who have more than one account and use that account to their advantage, please answer a simple question in the light of day in front of those like me who pay their $15 a month for a fair & square game....
Easy question HTC, since I am not the only one in-game asking this question every day...what is...officially, in front of the entire subscription paying community, what is the HTC company policy on people who have multiple accounts per household/multiple accounts per single credit card. We want to know because it effects gameplay in all arenas every day.
Thanks.
ROX
PS. Avoiding this issue, stomping this thread would speak VOLUMES.
for the record, i use 1 card for multiple accounts. i play with my own account, and i pay for 3 people who are less fortunate, and don't have the money to pay. so rather then lose them, I cover them.
now, you could look at me and say hey, he's got 1 card and 4 accounts so 3 must be shades! sometimes the reality isn't as simple as you make it out to be.
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hello, my name is kappa and I have a multiple account problem... I just need them see... I have to have one to follow sfox around, one to follow flynfin, one to follow that other guy, and one for each country to monitor for new mishons... please help or donate...
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for the record, i use 1 card for multiple accounts. i play with my own account, and i pay for 3 people who are less fortunate, and don't have the money to pay. so rather then lose them, I cover them.
now, you could look at me and say hey, he's got 1 card and 4 accounts so 3 must be shades! sometimes the reality isn't as simple as you make it out to be.
When I started playing AH, I did the same because I had a credit card and some squaddies didn't have one.
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Ok. I admit it.
I'm one of the six that play this game.
I've got 327 accounts of which you see each night in the LWA.
Heck, See all these replies? That's me answering myself here!
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Like it was said before and thru my experience, I've known fathers and their children flying together or against each other in the same household. Back in Air Warrior, there was a husband flying bombers with the wife being a gunner. I understand that it can be abused and I'm sure it has but rare I think.
:salute
27th
Btw a :salute to people paying for other peoples account. :rock
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what is...officially, in front of the entire subscription paying community, what is the HTC company policy on people who have multiple accounts per household/multiple accounts per single credit card
Hopefully it's something along the lines of, none of your business. What business is it of yours how many people in my house play the game? None.
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Ok. I admit it.
I'm one of the six that play this game.
I've got 327 accounts of which you see each night in the LWA.
Heck, See all these replies? That's me answering myself here!
:rofl
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There needs to be an Aces High evolution chart that shows that point where base takers assume they fail because of spies... it's right before the critical "quit or learn how to fight" evolutionary split.
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http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,359145.0.html
Shade accounts are what led to Hitech's "Hoping to pick this :airplane: up tomorrow" thread. :old:
"Are you selling your RV8?"
"Why heavens no! These shade accounts have financed a 2nd aircraft purchase! If this keeps up i plan to buy Dallas / ft. Worth International Airport"
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Dad wants to play against his son on two different computers from the same household, something I used to do with my son when he still lived at home (just a different game). Two brothers playing against each other...
What's the problem?
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http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,359145.0.html
Shade accounts are what led to Hitech's "Hoping to pick this :airplane: up tomorrow" thread. :old:
Shade accounts generate revenue. That's why the 12-hour rule will never die.
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I understand that it can be abused and I'm sure it has but rare I think.
the absolute worst case scenario regarding spying is players being forced to interact with other players.
oh my!
:uhoh :cry
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I have yet to see one MMO game that limits 1 account per credit card.
ack-ack
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Nothing to see here move along........
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I just hope HTC doesn't start to charge for multiple personalities as well! :old:
Me too! :banana:
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I don't understand the question.
Yes, HTC knows about mult accts in homes and their policy is one of good business practice. Its called "Take the money people want to pay us for the service we provide"
The end.
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Dear HTC folks.
Since many MA subscribers, including me, are asking who, what, why, when, how, and where about players who have more than one account and use that account to their advantage, please answer a simple question in the light of day in front of those like me who pay their $15 a month for a fair & square game....
Easy question HTC, since I am not the only one in-game asking this question every day...what is...officially, in front of the entire subscription paying community, what is the HTC company policy on people who have multiple accounts per household/multiple accounts per single credit card. We want to know because it effects gameplay in all arenas every day.
Thanks.
ROX
PS. Avoiding this issue, stomping this thread would speak VOLUMES.
If you wanted a real answer you would not load the question so heavily. Your post/question is right up there with when did you stop beating your wife.
HiTech
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If you wanted a real answer you would not load the question so heavily. Your post/question is right up there with when did you stop beating your wife.
HiTech
Well, I never.........
stopped! :rofl
It doesnt count though because she kinda likes it! :devil
:salute
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My other account says its not rape if you love them... :bolt:
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Die stupid thread ....
.... oops.
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charge for multiple personalities as well! :old:
:noid
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If you wanted a real answer you would not load the question so heavily. Your post/question is right up there with when did you stop beating your wife.
HiTech
Thank you for your reply and I will rephrase the question.
What is HTC's policy regarding players who have more than one account (either by name, payment option, or IP address) and use the other account to their advantage in-game.
I very much appreciated that you are willing to help subscribers understand your stance on the issue.
73
ROX
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Hmmm...
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Thank you for your reply and I will rephrase the question.
What is HTC's policy regarding players who have more than one account (either by name, payment option, or IP address) and use the other account to their advantage in-game.
I very much appreciated that you are willing to help subscribers understand your stance on the issue.
73
ROX
We do not have one. If you have specific complaint email us
Hitech
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We do not have one. If you have specific complaint email us
Hitech
Hahahaha!!!!! +1
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Dear HTC folks.
Since many MA subscribers, including me, are asking who, what, why, when, how, and where about players who have more than one account and use that account to their advantage, please answer a simple question in the light of day in front of those like me who pay their $15 a month for a fair & square game....
Easy question HTC, since I am not the only one in-game asking this question every day...what is...officially, in front of the entire subscription paying community, what is the HTC company policy on people who have multiple accounts per household/multiple accounts per single credit card. We want to know because it effects gameplay in all arenas every day.
Thanks.
ROX
PS. Avoiding this issue, stomping this thread would speak VOLUMES.
lol.. you are the guy that doesn't support the change of time switching time?
Quit shooting at buildings, and getting mad when something shoots you. :cheers:
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lol.. you are the guy that doesn't support the change of time switching time?
Quit shooting at buildings, and getting mad when something shoots you. :cheers:
w3rd.
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We do not have one. If you have specific complaint email us
Hitech
Thank you for your reply. :aok
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We do not have one. If you have specific complaint email us
Hitech
Pardon me, but wait a sec.
If no one has a complaint, then you have no official public policy, in force, at this time.....yet...
If you have complaints regarding a specific person/specific incident.....then you do.
Which is it?
Pick ONE. Sub paying subscribers want to know. Thank you.
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Pardon me, but wait a sec.
If no one has a complaint, then you have no official public policy, in force, at this time.....yet...
If you have complaints regarding a specific person/specific incident.....then you do.
Which is it?
Pick ONE. Sub paying subscribers want to know. Thank you.
you misunderstood his statement.
semp
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Heh, I can see where this is going to end up.
We do not have one. If you have specific complaint email us
Hitech
Hah, awesome.
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you misunderstood his statement.
semp
A new sempism.
Mind reading
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If you have a specific complaint then the complaint will be addressed. There isn't a policy about having more than one account because that in and of itself is not a problem.
Hitech has no policy regarding using a telephone while playing, if somebody(ies) wants to coordinate nefarious activities that are detrimental to the game than you would file a complaint about those activities not demand a clearcut policy on telephone use.
I know the game can be frustrating at times.
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Imo htc should encourage players to have more than one account. Like extra accounts at half price etc.
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Hitech has no policy regarding using a telephone while playing, if somebody(ies) wants to coordinate nefarious activities that are detrimental to the game than you would file a complaint about those activities not demand a clearcut policy on telephone use.
That's a good point as well. Honestly, regarding the original OP question/complaint - the whole thing is pointless, as all it takes is one person, to send one message via TeamSpeak, C3, Vox, the telephone, or even just a typed out Private Message in game, and your "secrets" are out, the same as if somebody was "spying" on your beloved team. A 2nd/3rd account isn't even needed, just having a willing participant co-opted to give information to the "other team". I often suspect guys that like to bust up bombing raids on each of the 3 sides have a side deal, you scratch my back, I'll scratch yours type of thing, with regards to giving intel on large bombing raids and CV locations.
Even if this isn't the case, or even if it only happens on occasion, the simple fact is there is NO way to stop it from happening, as there are limitless ways FOR it to continue happening. So, the best solution, which was from Grizz btw, are these little things called "guns" on your aircraft. You press the button and they go "pew pew pew" right back at those party pooping spies.
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The only two complaints I can see here are spying or shade vulching for score.
As long as there's two willing participants you won't even need a second account to pass information between countries; PM's, squad channel, team speak, instant messaging, e-mail, twitter or the telephone among others would all work and every one of them would cost less than a second account and a second computer.
As to shade vulching if you're actually worried about score well, that's what witch hunts are for.
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If you have a specific complaint then the complaint will be addressed. There isn't a policy about having more than one account because that in and of itself is not a problem.
Hitech has no policy regarding using a telephone while playing, if somebody(ies) wants to coordinate nefarious activities that are detrimental to the game than you would file a complaint about those activities not demand a clearcut policy on telephone use.
I know the game can be frustrating at times.
You do not understand my question.
I have a valid question on a valid issue and if there are those who are offended because they sting at having the issue public, then thats their problem, not mine.
I simply ask for the official policy of those who own the game and enforce the rules and nothing more. I do not wish to be in violation of rules that appear to have a gray area the size of Siberia, and this official public policy is what I and others ask and expect a decision on.
As a paying subscriber I am just entitled to my opinion as any other paying subscriber is, weather others like it or not.
If HTC has a problem with multiple accounts for one person who uses those multiple accounts for their own in-game personal gain I wish to know. I am not the only one. I will abide by whaever HTC's official policy is.
If HTC has no problem with people having multiple accounts, and have no policy against using it for one's own personal gain I have no problem with that and will set up 2 additional accounts by noon the day HTC says they have no official problem with it.
As a paying subscriber I have a right to know what is and what isn't official game policy so that I can abide by the rules as the ownership decides, nothing more.
ROX
PS: kvou: If you wish to complain about my gameplay over missions, feel free to go back in a time machine to 2007 to the last time I ran a mission to take a base. After that, my personal medical situation and disability dictated no more missions. You are, however, more than welcome to hop in your time machine and retro-hop back to the fall of 2006 and complain to Skuzzy regarding my personal choices in game play. I'm sure Skuzzy will be highly interest in your almost 7 year old salty tears. Be careful kvou mcFly, it gets bumpy around 2008.
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i would suggest as htc has suggested to you, rather then out in the open, you send them an email and ask your question. you might get a better response.
i think the actual validity of the actual question may be up for debate, as to what you or we, have a right to know and not to know. its still their game.
sounds to me like multiple accounts are not a problem to them. sounds to me like doing something against the rules is. having multiple accounts does not make
you a rule breaker. flying shades doesn't make you a rule breaker.
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You do not understand my question.
I have a valid question on a valid issue and if there are those who are offended because they sting at having the issue public, then thats their problem, not mine.
I simply ask for the official policy of those who own the game and enforce the rules and nothing more. I do not wish to be in violation of rules that appear to have a gray area the size of Siberia, and this official public policy is what I and others ask and expect a decision on.
As a paying subscriber I am just entitled to my opinion as any other paying subscriber is, weather others like it or not.
If HTC has a problem with multiple accounts for one person who uses those multiple accounts for their own in-game personal gain I wish to know. I am not the only one. I will abide by whaever HTC's official policy is.
If HTC has no problem with people having multiple accounts, and have no policy against using it for one's own personal gain I have no problem with that and will set up 2 additional accounts by noon the day HTC says they have no official problem with it.
As a paying subscriber I have a right to know what is and what isn't official game policy so that I can abide by the rules as the ownership decides, nothing more.
ROX
PS: kvou: If you wish to complain about my gameplay over missions, feel free to go back in a time machine to 2007 to the last time I ran a mission to take a base. After that, my personal medical situation and disability dictated no more missions. You are, however, more than welcome to hop in your time machine and retro-hop back to the fall of 2006 and complain to Skuzzy regarding my personal choices in game play. I'm sure Skuzzy will be highly interest in your almost 7 year old salty tears. Be careful kvou mcFly, it gets bumpy around 2008.
5 out of 6 of my accounts do not agree.. but good luck to you!
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I was considering getting a second account myself, for the simple expedient of getting around the annoyances associated with the 12 hour rule in the LWMA. Then I realized that doing so would effectively be rewarding the company for implementing a bad policy, and that's just not right. So it's tempting to pay an extra $15 a month to be able to fly where and with whom I want to fly without trouble, but since no one should have to do that, I will stick with the single account.
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You do not understand my question.
I have a valid question on a valid issue and if there are those who are offended because they sting at having the issue public, then thats their problem, not mine.
I simply ask for the official policy of those who own the game and enforce the rules and nothing more. I do not wish to be in violation of rules that appear to have a gray area the size of Siberia, and this official public policy is what I and others ask and expect a decision on.
As a paying subscriber I am just entitled to my opinion as any other paying subscriber is, weather others like it or not.
If HTC has a problem with multiple accounts for one person who uses those multiple accounts for their own in-game personal gain I wish to know. I am not the only one. I will abide by whaever HTC's official policy is.
If HTC has no problem with people having multiple accounts, and have no policy against using it for one's own personal gain I have no problem with that and will set up 2 additional accounts by noon the day HTC says they have no official problem with it.
As a paying subscriber I have a right to know what is and what isn't official game policy so that I can abide by the rules as the ownership decides, nothing more.
ROX
PS: kvou: If you wish to complain about my gameplay over missions, feel free to go back in a time machine to 2007 to the last time I ran a mission to take a base. After that, my personal medical situation and disability dictated no more missions. You are, however, more than welcome to hop in your time machine and retro-hop back to the fall of 2006 and complain to Skuzzy regarding my personal choices in game play. I'm sure Skuzzy will be highly interest in your almost 7 year old salty tears. Be careful kvou mcFly, it gets bumpy around 2008.
You're not going to get permission to vulch a shade.
Wiley.
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So it looks like the official stance is that there is no policy to prohibit one person from having multiple paid accounts...and in my opinion is absolutely the way it should be.
If a player has a suspicion regarding another player's use of a second account (or general in-game behavior), that player should contact HTC directly via email to register a complaint (included screenshots and/or film would be a plus). From what I've seen, HTC takes allegations of less-than-honest behavior very seriously, and they have no obligation to publicly post anything regarding their investigations.
I guess I'm just having trouble understanding why this is such an issue.
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PS: kvou: If you wish to complain about my gameplay over missions, feel free to go back in a time machine to 2007 to the last time I ran a mission to take a base.
that's why I added the question mark. I don't generally concern myself with what people are or are not doing in the game..
so then.. if you're not running secret missions or hiding cv's, why even care at all about shades/spies? what are you getting at? what is the "personal gain" you mention?
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So it looks like the official stance is that there is no policy to prohibit one person from having multiple paid accounts...and in my opinion is absolutely the way it should be.
If a player has a suspicion regarding another player's use of a second account (or general in-game behavior), that player should contact HTC directly via email to register a complaint (included screenshots and/or film would be a plus). From what I've seen, HTC takes allegations of less-than-honest behavior very seriously, and they have no obligation to publicly post anything regarding their investigations.
I guess I'm just having trouble understanding why this is such an issue.
Agreed. This issue is like floating in a sea of poo and pointing out of your boat and screaming, "I hate that turd!! I wanna change that turd!! That turd pisses me off!"
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Derp double post
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Derp double post
2nd account posting
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2nd account posting
Ha!
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So HTC should prevent players from having more than one account, effectively stopping them from paying more money?
I wouldn't do that if I were them.
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I just laughed so hard at this thread I literally trickled piss!!! :rofl
Now I need my asthma puffer.
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Yeah that's what I thought.
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I'll admit it, I have two accounts that I've used for personal gain. I personally gained the ability to fly where and where ever I want with or without who ever I want. Althought I probably haven't logged 5hrs between the two in months. Perhaps I should cancel them both and donate the money to the ASPA or invest in a hitman for that damned Geico lizard.
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So it looks like the official stance is that there is no policy to prohibit one person from having multiple paid accounts...and in my opinion is absolutely the way it should be.
If a player has a suspicion regarding another player's use of a second account (or general in-game behavior), that player should contact HTC directly via email to register a complaint (included screenshots and/or film would be a plus). From what I've seen, HTC takes allegations of less-than-honest behavior very seriously, and they have no obligation to publicly post anything regarding their investigations.
I guess I'm just having trouble understanding why this is such an issue.
I could not agree more, with the exception of the prior silence and unexplained policy on the issue in question. If we are expected to abide by the rules, then it is only fair & honest to have those who are current paying subscribers fully understand what is and what isn't tolerated in a public way so that players can be properly informed and bide by those rules.
From what I understand from Skuzzy, screenshots are no longer accepted as evidence of foul play or game violations, only in-game reports and films. I wish that HTC would post an official policy on what they do and dont accept as far is evidence of in-game rules violations publicly, although that has yet to happen----it is definitely needed.
The issue is that I have never seen, previous to this public question and answer from HTC addressed publicly (excluding those posts from those who think they personally represent HTC's official policies) so that myself and others, many others asking the same question in-game know what the rules are. Since I have never seen the issue presented publically prior to my question for official policy dictation from HTC it seems to me an important issue to be made public, in the light of day now, as I see numerous players using numerous accounts in-game to their own in-game advantage---and as a subscription paying current player had a valid question on a valid issue.
It's Dale's sandbox and I only wish to make sure what his official policy on the issue was, and to abide by his rules and nothing more.
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lol.. you are the guy that doesn't support the change of time switching time?
Quit shooting at buildings, and getting mad when something shoots you. :cheers:
Last I looked, my paying my own $15 bucks entitles me to play that 15 bucks however I please so long as it doesnt violate HTC's rules.
If you dont like how I play my $15 bucks then thats YOUR problem, not mine.
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that's why I added the question mark. I don't generally concern myself with what people are or are not doing in the game..
So then, what's it to you what I or anyone else does in-game?
If you have a problem with my gameplay please feel free to take it up with HTC.
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If you dont like how I play my $15 bucks then thats YOUR problem, not mine.
i·ro·ny
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noun
noun: irony
1.
the expression of one's meaning by using language that normally signifies the opposite, typically for humorous or emphatic effect.
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I play several times a week usually. Why do I not see all the nefarious activity so many others seem to run into every other sortie? My SA must be worse than I thought :headscratch:
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i·ro·ny
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noun
noun: irony
1.
the expression of one's meaning by using language that normally signifies the opposite, typically for humorous or emphatic effect.
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Poor rox has always been kind of...well...mainly :noid in the years ive known her on the game. Bless his heart.
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this is hilarious,
Someone asks a fairly straight forward question about policy and the self appointed mouthpieces fall all over themselves to break the POSTED rules with meaningless jibes, cartoons and ignorant comments. I had no idea that rules for one are NOT rules for all and that special people get the make such ignorant statements and pat all their malcontent buddies on the back with sophomoric prattle.
It was my understanding that the forum was to post questions and answers that were relevant rather than have it turn into a contest of one liners without the drum tap at the end of each demonstration of failed school systems.
If you are NOT going to make a relevant HELPFULL comments then you should at least keep the petty, ignorant comments and cartoons to your self.
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this is hilarious,
Someone asks a fairly straight forward question about policy and the self appointed mouthpieces fall all over themselves to break the POSTED rules with meaningless jibes, cartoons and ignorant comments. I had no idea that rules for one are NOT rules for all and that special people get the make such ignorant statements and pat all their malcontent buddies on the back with sophomoric prattle.
It was my understanding that the forum was to post questions and answers that were relevant rather than have it turn into a contest of one liners without the drum tap at the end of each demonstration of failed school systems.
If you are NOT going to make a relevant HELPFULL comments then you should at least keep the petty, ignorant comments and cartoons to your self.
doesn't your post violate the rules
and I'm pretty sure my post commenting on ur post violating the rules also violates the rules
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Ummm. I'm just a simple person.
What I comprehend from Dale's response is: There is no specific policy regarding multiple accounts because misbehavior with accounts falls under another well-established policy called "Executing (with predudice) Freaking Cheaters". You just need to communicate your suspicions to HTC with some kind of plausibility.
We don't need more rules here (civics), we just need to use the rules we have.
Am I missing something important?
:salute
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for the record, i use 1 card for multiple accounts. i play with my own account, and i pay for 3 people who are less fortunate, and don't have the money to pay. so rather then lose them, I cover them.
:salute :salute :salute
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See rule #4
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For quote of a rule #4 violation
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Ok to answer 1 question of the multiple account syndrome..
1 I know of someone who basically helped out a squaddie by paying his account for 3 months in advance.. 2 weeks later when said squaddie decided to change countries and systematically hunt down former squaddies, they on a night when he wasnt on changed his password on him.
2. Then using that account he went on 200 made the other player look like a schmuck. Eventually HiTech or Scuzzy locked that account out of the game. The account was paid for but due to the lockdown it wasnt able to be used.
3. I personally have used 2 accounts before, LawnDart and to harrass my squaddies Semp let me us Midway when he had it.. funnier than hell when Midway showed up on Pigs channel and started ankle humping everyone.
4. My opinion is .. if you have the money and you want to spend it on 2- 30 accounts then have at it.
LawnDart
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For quote of a rule #4 violoation
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If my wife wanted to play I would have two accounts,, I used to have a husband / wife in a squad I used to play in, they both played side by side in the office with two computers, Not sure why anyone would think that is wrong?
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For quote of a rule #4 violation
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I was considering getting a second account myself, for the simple expedient of getting around the annoyances associated with the 12 hour rule in the LWMA. Then I realized that doing so would effectively be rewarding the company for implementing a bad policy, and that's just not right. So it's tempting to pay an extra $15 a month to be able to fly where and with whom I want to fly without trouble, but since no one should have to do that, I will stick with the single account.
That's why he won't change it. He thinks it generates revenue. In reality it just causes people in offpeak time zones to subscribe to and play War Blunder instead of AH.
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That's why he won't change it. He thinks it generates revenue. In reality it just causes people in offpeak time zones to play War Blunder.
Did you somehow find a little door behind some file cabinets on the 7 1/2 floor of the Mertin-Flemmer Building? :old:
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See rule #4
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Rule #4 Violation
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That's why he won't change it. He thinks it generates revenue. In reality it just causes people in offpeak time zones to subscribe to and play War Blunder instead of AH.
Do you believe you have any other super powers or is it just the mind reading?
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That's why he won't change it. He thinks it generates revenue. In reality it just causes people in offpeak time zones to subscribe to and play War Blunder instead of AH.
while the majority of players think about sleeping, how inconsiderate of them :old:.
semp
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See rule #4
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Perhaps you should learn what sycophant means changeup? Just a thought, but perhaps you should google the meaning 👍
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Because of rule #4 change of events.
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Because of rule #4 change of events.
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If someone actually pays an extra $15 to sink my CV or catch an NOE mission I'm on...I win.
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If I had two accounts, both would be on the same country so I could roll bases better than the huge hordes who forget to bring bombs or troops to a base take.
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Ummm. I'm just a simple person.
What I comprehend from Dale's response is: There is no specific policy regarding multiple accounts because misbehavior with accounts falls under another well-established policy called "Executing (with predudice) Freaking Cheaters". You just need to communicate your suspicions to HTC with some kind of plausibility.
We don't need more rules here (civics), we just need to use the rules we have.
Am I missing something important?
:salute
Yes your answering in a thread with logic after thinking thru the issue. This is the BBS, there's no place for that here
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If I had two accounts, both would be on the same country so I could roll bases better than the huge hordes who forget to bring bombs or troops to a base take.
Interesting concept, but for the fact I can barely control one plane, never mind a jabo and a goon :joystick:
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See rule #4
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See rule #4
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Oh, this will end brilliantly well.
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Tracers there is certainly a large grey area on the BBS as to what is acceptable/accepted, and going against the grain will usually pinch you into the rule violation region. The rules are very broad so you must tread more lightly if you are going against the grain. :old:
That being said, I think ROX's initial post was valid, although very paranoid and did warrant some ribbing. Whether some took it too far is a matter of opinion. :aok
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The rules seem pretty clear to me. Enforcement and consequences are gray, but its dirt simple to participate here and stay out of trouble.
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just my $.02...... being an OTR truck driver I don't get to play much, but when I do it's quality time. even tho my suckage has gone from in the frying pan to why the h&!! is it so hot??, I still love to play. for me it's not about rank, score, or even perk points.....it's about having fun for my (probably at this time more than $1/hr per month) $15/month.
as to the OP, some people with multiple accts can be a lot of fun to fly with...especially if they multiple folks on said accts.
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:aok :aok
just my $.02...... being an OTR truck driver I don't get to play much, but when I do it's quality time. even tho my suckage has gone from in the frying pan to why the h&!! is it so hot??, I still love to play. for me it's not about rank, score, or even perk points.....it's about having fun for my (probably at this time more than $1/hr per month) $15/month.
as to the OP, some people with multiple accts can be a lot of fun to fly with...especially if they multiple folks on said accts.
:aok :aok
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lol @ subscription method still being used these days. It's all about play 4 free. I guess HTC can't implement that method without a major overhaul to the game's system.
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You young people to the game always make me laugh. Simply because you don't know how it used to be....
You can "see" who shoots down who in the game itself; no longer needing to run some numbers off the stats page.
You can use the mouse to see who that friendly is right on the map.
And by the way, I agree with you... HTC really needs to do away with father's and sons, mother's and daughters, Betty's and Stukas playing together. It goes against everything popular culture is trying to do to society.
IN :bolt: