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General Forums => Aircraft and Vehicles => Topic started by: jeffdn on April 29, 2013, 11:39:18 PM
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I'd not seen this before. Thought it was pretty neat.
(http://i.imgur.com/tGj9BIg.jpg)
It doesn't look like it has the 13mm machine guns, but it also doesn't have guns built into the wing. Maybe an F or early G model?
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My $0.02 is that it's a G. I'm not all that an expert tho
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Also notice the air filter on the intake. So would have been captured in NA most likely.
Tho not clear enough, it appears to have external armoured wind screen.
Bf109F-4/Z Trop would be my guess.
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It's a late G-2 trop or G-4 trop.
It has the thick canopy frames, aux oil cooling scoops on the cowling, and the fixed tail wheel.
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Definately a G. Spoked wheels suggests an early G.
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:headscratch: hmm I was just looking at the airscrew and the cowling. I'll pat myself on the back for this one. :cheers:
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The 31st FG had a Macchi they were using as a hack, I think they also had a 109 the "aquired" and used for pilot fam. This might be that airplane.
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That's a G-2 Trop...captured in Benghazi in 1942.
If you want the full story...PM me.
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Here's another photo of it I found:
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-WeSBvNcf9Jw/T0C7K0dfYuI/AAAAAAAAFXQ/STgUGR9YBtQ/s1600/Bf+109G-2Trop.jpg)
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That's a G-2 Trop...captured in Benghazi in 1942.
If you want the full story...PM me.
post it! I'm sure theres plenty here who would appreciate it :aok
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I'd not seen this before. Thought it was pretty neat. It doesn't look like it has the 13mm machine guns, but it also doesn't have guns built into the wing. Maybe an F or early G model?
Dan: Is this the one Earl's squadron rebuilt?
- oldman
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post it! I'm sure theres plenty here who would appreciate it :aok
Captured by the 79th FG. This 109 was a G-2 Trop, coded '14' (black) and named 'Irmgard'. (So-named after the crew-chief's girlfriend.) Here's a few more shots of this ship, for anyone who may be interested.
As captured:
(http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m170/LWMTC1/USAC/Bf109001b.jpg)
Repainted:
(http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m170/LWMTC1/USAC/Captured001.jpg)
(http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m170/LWMTC1/USAC/bf109g2trop_full.jpg)
With 87th FS emblem: Here she is with an 87th FS emblem on the fuselage. This was applied to both sides. This emblem was eventually replaced by that of the 86th FS, shown in the next photo.
(http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m170/LWMTC1/USAC/Bf109a.jpg)
At Wright Field: 'Irmgard' eventually wound up at Wright Field and is seen here undergoing static testing. Note the replacement port wing. The original port wing can be seen off to the side, behind the tail.
(http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m170/LWMTC1/USAC/PG-158.jpg)
In the field:
(http://www.ww2aircraft.net/forum/attachments/your-completed-kits/179931d1317854532t-captured-butcher-bird-captured109.jpg)
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/109G2.jpg)
All sides flew 'turncoat' aircraft during the war. They often got some very cool paint jobs, and their history is always fascinating.
There is a whole bunch of info and pics of this aircraft in the '79th FG history' by Don Woerpel, for anyone who is interested in more detail.
Cheers.
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It's amazing how similar it looks to those P-51Bs in your second-to-last photograph!
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It's amazing how similar it looks to those P-51Bs in your second-to-last photograph!
Are those 51's...or 40's?
Either way...yes...all the in line engine aircraft basically shared the same thin, sleek profile. With the exception of say...the 190D series that mounted a round radiator...thus given the impression of a radial powerplant, but in reality...water cooled in line.
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Are those 51's...or 40's?
Tail says P-40
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Tail says P-40
Whole plane screams it. :lol
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tail and nose say p40, I can see the rudder line and is different from the 51 :D
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Dan: Is this the one Earl's squadron rebuilt?
- oldman
Nope. Many of the MTO Groups had 109 "hacks". Some had 190s also. Off the top I believe the 33rd and 79th had 190s as well as 109s.
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Oh boy. Another proof of how American's aren't really good at anything.
(Stealing technology, claiming that it is their own.)
diddly this country.
Germany really was superior; This is true since it took the whole world to bring them down.
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Nope. Many of the MTO Groups had 109 "hacks". Some had 190s also. Off the top I believe the 33rd and 79th had 190s as well as 109s.
They did. 79th had a sweet 190A that they painted bright red.
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Oh boy. Another proof of how American's aren't really good at anything.
(Stealing technology, claiming that it is their own.)
diddly this country.
Germany really was superior; This is true since it took the whole world to bring them down.
Yeah, thats it America sucks so much, that's why so many immigrate here so they can suck too I guess. You are always free to immigrate away. Buh bye.
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Oh boy. Another proof of how American's aren't really good at anything.
(Stealing technology, claiming that it is their own.)
diddly this country.
Germany really was superior; This is true since it took the whole world to bring them down.
:rofl
The Soviet "untermensch" would have done it by themselves. It just would have taken longer.
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Oh boy. Another proof of how American's aren't really good at anything.
(Stealing technology, claiming that it is their own.)
diddly this country.
Germany really was superior; This is true since it took the whole world to bring them down.
You gotta get out of your momma's basement and leave her computer alone.
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You gotta get out of your momma's basement and leave her computer alone.
He is a graduate of the School of Kurfurst-Crumpp. :devil
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Oh boy. Another proof of how American's aren't really good at anything.
(Stealing technology, claiming that it is their own.)
diddly this country.
Germany really was superior; This is true since it took the whole world to bring them down.
Thanks for a hearty laugh on a boring sunday :aok
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Obvious troll was not obvious enough it would seem. Troll is now well fed. Good job guys, and welcome to the intertubes.
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I say it time and time again, but all I hear is boisterous patriotism.
But, just for the fun of it.
"The Germans lost WW2, on June 22nd 1941"
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Dug through the group histories.
79th FG 190s
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/Bilby%20Bits%20B10%20Jacket/79th190s_zps21f4a2e2.jpg)
57th had at least 2 109s
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/Bilby%20Bits%20B10%20Jacket/57th109GTrop_zpsaaeb9ad3.jpg)
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/Bilby%20Bits%20B10%20Jacket/57th109G_zps60f3c5ae.jpg)
33rd had a 190 and 3 109s
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/Bilby%20Bits%20B10%20Jacket/33rdFG190_zps0a8d04a6.jpg)
one of the three 109s
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/Bilby%20Bits%20B10%20Jacket/33rd109G_zps9d9efc54.jpg)
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Oh boy. Another proof of how American's aren't really good at anything.
(Stealing technology, claiming that it is their own.)
diddly this country.
Germany really was superior; This is true since it took the whole world to bring them down.
Schlowy is that you?
ack-ack
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Schlowy is that you?
ack-ack
Perhaps 442's can be cloned now. :eek:
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Perhaps 442's can be cloned now. :eek:
The 442 lacks any original thinking. A poor ignorant man's attempt at cleverness I guess. Epic in it's failure.
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Oh boy. Another proof of how American's aren't really good at anything.
(Stealing technology, claiming that it is their own.)
diddly this country.
Germany really was superior; This is true since it took the whole world to bring them down.
Germany is so good they will surely hold the title of losing two world wars in a row which will probably outlive mankind. :rolleyes:
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do the skins count as fair game use in AH? i dont know what HiTechs rules are for turn coat aircraft. but i would love to skin one and use it. i have been getting into the 109s lately. so would love to have US marking on them. :D
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do the skins count as fair game use in AH?
Unfortunately, no captured skins are allowed.
Wiley.
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Schlowy is that you?
ack-ack
That made me laugh. :aok
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German planes with US markings look ugly :uhoh