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General Forums => Axis vs Allies => Topic started by: Larry on February 29, 2008, 05:42:22 PM
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See Rules #4, #5
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Couldn't you have just sent him a PM?
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Originally posted by Panzzer
Couldn't you have just sent him a PM?
Most people dont check thier PMs because they dont have the pop up box enabled.
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Easier. Hmmmm. This usually evokes a challenge to fly a certain plane in the MA for a full tour (or, back in the day, in the CT for the duration of the map) and post stats to back the claim. But since you're TK, I'm sure you remember that. Don't worry ... not gonna put you on the spot. :D
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Arlo, please do not agro the situation... Regardless how much I appreciate the offered help. I can PO anyone fine by myself. :p
Originally posted by Panzzer
Couldn't you have just sent him a PM?
Really... Could have asked in game if I have the flag popper up... (which I do)
It takes two to HO. The Axis would prefer us to turn our tail to them? Sorry that ain't gonna happen. If you come at us face on, be prepared for a lead knuckle sandwhich to the nose.
I still don't believe you, and your squad, could handle being on the Axis Frame 1 rides/side for an entire frame. You said as much yourself in game that you had to have at least 8 guns or 4 cannons to be happy. Which is cool for you. Go git 'em tiger, and you do. And I admire your persistence in flying one set of iron in the game, be it considered Uber or not. That speaks volumes for your squad and its discipline.
Now let's get on with killing one another, shall we?
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I don't know why hes whining so much, Odee. The UBER F4F isn't even in the AvA room.
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Originally posted by Panzzer
Couldn't you have just sent him a PM?
No drama in that.
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Heh. Thats a bit of a laugh, honestly.
I want everyone to repeat after me.
"Every plane is good 4 on 1".
Even those "crappy" axis planes.
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Not really sure what exactly is going on, but the size of guns doesn't matter if you can consistently gain a six and keep it.
donkey
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PMs are too easy. Its more fun to start DRAMA!! Isnt that what the AvA is about??
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See Rule #4
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Originally posted by Odee
Arlo, please do not agro the situation... Regardless how much I appreciate the offered help. I can PO anyone fine by myself. :p
Don't fret. I wasn't championing or agroing for ya. This certainly didn't look like a private slap and tickle session. :D
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Originally posted by Larry
Iv PMed people and they didnt know about it for months at a time. I posted here because I didnt know if he had the pop up box. Every time odee gets killed theres always a HO or stupid axis uber cannons quote from him. He was even talking crap about JG54 on country channel today saying we always do it. I hate to tell you but we keep most of our trash talk on squad channel. Odees problem is he blames everyone but himself when he dies.
Why couldnt you have simply wrote a PM, then posted a post saying:
"Odee, check your PM box please!"
A post like this anywhere else would have been closed and deleted by now....
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Originally posted by EagleEyes
A post like this anywhere else would have been closed and deleted by now....
Why, because Im telling the truth? Nothing in the post is breaking any rules. Im telling him why Im not going to fly for the allies and that he needs to stop whineing about our super cannons because they are the crappiest guns in the game. Iv flown all of the allied planes before I know how easy they are to get kills in when you can drop flaps at 300mph and just turn when you get into trouble. I fly axis because if you make a mistake in a 109/190 your dead. He is to busy crying most of the time and not flying. Iv seen many JG54 members go allied and landing more kills then anyone else on that side. Its just funny how you guys whine about your planes when they are the best/easiest in the game.
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Originally posted by Larry
Tango me whining here, I dont think so. And your an idiot if you think the F4F talk from me was whining. Read some history books and learn something about WWII aviation then get back to me.
F4F-4 entered service in 1942.... Had replaced all F4F-3 squadrons by June 1942 except VMF-221.
Source:
F4F Wilcat Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F4F_Wildcat)
At this moment, i am unable to find any information on the kill/death ratio of the F4F4 during 1942. I do know of a fact the F4F4 fought both Germany and Japan during 1942.....
Just given my 2 cents in....
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Originally posted by Larry
Why, because Im telling the truth? Nothing in the post is breaking any rules. Im telling him why Im not going to fly for the allies and that he needs to stop whineing about our super cannons because they are the crappiest guns in the game. Iv flown all of the allied planes before I know how easy they are to get kills in when you can drop flaps at 300mph and just turn when you get into trouble. I fly axis because if you make a mistake in a 109/190 your dead. He is to busy crying most of the time and not flying. Iv seen many JG54 members go allied and landing more kills then anyone else on that side. Its just funny how you guys whine about your planes when they are the best/easiest in the game.
Personally i love how some of your guys switch sides to even the teams but, how many of your guys have shot down one of your goons during a base capture?? How many have actually stopped an Axis base take?? How many have porked an Axis field? Im willing to bet none. Only reason they switch is to furball. When you guys switch, the teams might be even, but us Allies are still at a numeral disadvantage cuz i bet that if one of your guys' sees an ib goon for a base for capture, they arent going to shoot it down! And until i see film proof of an Axis player who switched to allies to even teams and shoots down an Axis goon to stop a base capture, i ask you guys please stay on your sides. All your doing is furballing, and that belongs in the MA.
If an allied member swtiched to Axis to even teams, im sure he would be automatically charged as a spy.... I know some guys have switched back and forth, but they are not "registered" as an Allied flyer....
And i ment that it would have been closed because its something that could have been said in a PM. Ive seen a lot of posts like this in the general forum and seen them closed.....
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We have already discussed the F4F-4. I said it shouldnt be in the first round because it is a mid '42 plane while every other fighter is 1940 era. He and other people were saying it should because its a sub for the F4F-3 which entered service in late 1940. The only reason I said it sohuldnt be in the round is because of the two extra .50cals.
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Originally posted by EagleEyes
Personally i love how some of your guys switch sides to even the teams but, how many of your guys have shot down one of your goons during a base capture?? How many have actually stopped an Axis base take?? How many have porked an Axis field? Im willing to bet none.
I...uh...I may once...or possibly twice...could I please make a call...?
- oldman
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Oh i agree with you on it shouldnt have been in there... But the A6M2 didnt enter service till Late 1940 and didnt have sufficient numbers until mid 1941.
Source:A6M2 Zero (http://en.wikipedia.org)
If any planes should have been added to the series, should have been the Spitfire Mk V. It entered service about the same time the A6M2 did. As did the Hurricane MkIIC. Late 1940/Early 1941. Battle of Britain was fought during this time.... And if you say its pre BoB, then the Spitfire shouldnt be there, nor should the JU-87D, as the JU87D model didnt enter service until 1941.
If you take the time to read the information. It stats that the Hurricane and Spitfire could out-turn the 109s and 110s easily. Yet in AH, the 109s and 110s easy turned WITH the Spits and Hurris....
Not blaming the Axis, but pointing out a mistake maken by HiTech and gang. If you want a HISTORICAL fight, then things need to change with flight models first....
Source:Spitfire/Hurricane/Junkers JU87 Stuka (http://en.wikipedia.org)
So i do agree the F4F wildcat should NOT have been there, but some other planes shouldnt as well, or some should have been added. Too little too late now huh?!
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Originally posted by Oldman731
I...uh...I may once...or possibly twice...could I please make a call...?
- oldman
But are you a registered Axis flier or someone who often switches sides?? Im talking about the JG54 guys as well as the JG11 guys.....
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Originally posted by EagleEyes
How many of your guys have shot down one of your goons during a base capture?? How many have actually stopped an Axis base take??
(http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/4/24/1013733/goon.jpg)
Originally posted by EagleEyes
Oh i agree with you on it shouldnt have been in there... But the A6M2 didnt enter service till Late 1940 and didnt have sufficient numbers until mid 1941.
Source:A6M2 Zero
If any plane should have been added to the serious, should have been the Spitfire Mk V. It entered service about the same time the A6M2 did. As did the Hurricane MkIIC. Late 1940/Early 1941. Battle of Britain was fought during this time.... And if you say its pre BoB, then the Spitfire shouldnt be there, nor should the JU-87D, as the JU87D model didnt enter service until 1941.
Source:Spitfire/Hurricane/Junkers JU87 Stuka
So i do agree the F4F wildcat should NOT have been there, but some other planes shouldnt as well, or some should have been added. Too little too late now huh?!
This is from forks Aircraft and Vehicle Service Dates list since I not going to spend hours looking for them. this is the list that the AvA staff use to make setups and good info.
Axis Round One
A6M2...........7-40
B5N2...........7-40
D3A-1..........7-40
Bf 109E-4....5-40
Bf 110C-4b..8-40
Ju87D-3.......7-41
[Allies Round One[/b]
Spitfire Mk IA.....8-40
Hurricane Mk I...5-40
P-40B................1-41
SBD-5................5-43
TBM-3................2-43
Did I mess anything?
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Originally posted by DoNKeY
Not really sure what exactly is going on, but the size of guns doesn't matter if you can consistently gain a six and keep it.
donkey
Too true ya floppy eared riding beast! :D
TK is stretching the truth just a hair when he says:
...Every time odee gets killed theres always a HO or stupid axis uber cannons quote from him. He was even talking crap about JG54 on country channel today saying we always do it. I hate to tell you but we keep most of our trash talk on squad channel. Odees problem is he blames everyone but himself when he dies...
Really now, have I blamed anyone but me for my own dying at the hands of these HOtards? I can't recall doing so. Sure I *****ee about the planesets being unbalanced in frame 1 ...and they were in the Big Picture scheme of that part of the scenario. No doubt about that at all. But really TK, you're reaching for straws now. :rofl :rofl
Then he goes the statistical route, ending with:
Did I mess anything?
Uhm... A20 maybe? Something that can fight and lay eggs like the majoritay of LW iron? :rofl :rofl :rofl
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Yeah, their info is wrong....
Dont see the Spit V or the Hurri IIC as both were 40/41 aircraft....
Please provide the name of the Axis pilot who was flying the P-38, as well as the Goon driver...
And toward the end of Frame 1, i read that guys from JG54/11 had switched sides, and thats mainly what im talking about when i mean shooting down a goon, porking, actually defending a base....
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Originally posted by EagleEyes
Yeah, their info is wrong....
Dont see the Spit V or the Hurri IIC as both were 40/41 aircraft....
:rofl Please tell me what info is wrong, and please dont try to proove it with wiki as your only source.
Spitfire V ... 4-41
Hurricane IIC ... 4-41
but then why not this
Bf 109F-4 ... 6-41
Ju 88A-4 ... 5-41
Originally posted by EagleEyes
Please provide the name of the Axis pilot who was flying the P-38, as well as the Goon driver...
And toward the end of Frame 1, i read that guys from JG54/11 had switched sides, and thats mainly what im talking about when i mean shooting down a goon, porking, actually defending a base....
A few JG54 members have switched sides and can be seen in our stats. That C47 kill may not show up since it was tonight. The P38 is one of if not the best stick that flys with us. You can see the goon drivers name in blue right above the plane.
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By all means...Add the Ju88 and the 109F!! The 88s were in the Battle of Britian, and the 109F caught the tail end of it!
Dont have to prove it on just wiki alone, just happened to be the first site that came to mind. Google the planes, look at all the info. For someone who constantly tells people to look up aircraft info, you seem to need to do it more!
Again, im talking about frame 1, not as of this frame. Id imagine the pilot was Storch. He has a very good reputation among everyone in AH. But that doesnt mean every other axis player would jump at the chance to stop an axis base capture by shooting down a goon that could capture a field, and give more points to the axis side....
And by looking at the stats, it doesnt say which side they were when they shot down the goon... only shows numbers of goons they shot down!
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Originally posted by EagleEyes
By all means...Add the Ju88 and the 109F!! The 88s were in the Battle of Britian, and the 109F caught the tail end of it!
Dont have to prove it on just wiki alone, just happened to be the first site that came to mind. Google the planes, look at all the info. For someone who constantly tells people to look up aircraft info, you seem to need to do it more!
Again, im talking about frame 1, not as of this frame. Id imagine the pilot was Storch. He has a very good reputation among everyone in AH. But that doesnt mean every other axis player would jump at the chance to stop an axis base capture by shooting down a goon that could capture a field, and give more points to the axis side....
And by looking at the stats, it doesnt say which side they were when they shot down the goon... only shows numbers of goons they shot down!
Show some proof that the info is wrong. Iv researched the info on some planes and from what Iv seen its pretty good info. Frame one JG54 members didnt find any axis goons but I can tell you they would have killed them anyways. Storch is in that picture, but he's the 190 chasing the P38.
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Originally posted by Larry
I hate to tell you but we keep most of our trash talk on squad channel.
I find that amazing. How do you guys even manage to communicate in a fight? I mean if most of your trash talking is in squad Chnl it must be jammed totally jammed. And I dont understand how that works do you role play. Like you act out the part of the Allied pilot to be trashed while your squadys yell obscenities at you? Thats crazyness. :rofl
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As an aside, 6/41 is a tad early for the F-4. Maybe some F-1s were around, then later some F-2s, which were common for a while, but the F-2s had a piss-poor 15mm cannon. That's basically the size of a 50cal gun, with probably about as much power. Constant complaints from pilots brought about the 20mm MG151/20 on the F-4. The F-4 firepower was a definite step up.
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Originally posted by ACB
I find that amazing. How do you guys even manage to communicate in a fight? I mean if most of your trash talking is in squad Chnl it must be jammed totally jammed. And I dont understand how that works do you role play. Like you act out the part of the Allied pilot to be trashed while your squadys yell obscenities at you? Thats crazyness. :rofl
Between that and storchs singing its hard to get a word in sometimes.
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I have film of N7 shooting down Tyrant and 87Stuka in goons... If I must, I'll post it.
Originally posted by ACB
I find that amazing. How do you guys even manage to communicate in a fight? I mean if most of your trash talking is in squad Chnl it must be jammed totally jammed.
Believe it or not but....we really aren't that concerned with the allies. Someone will vox about a particularly lame maneuver which is sometimes followed by a 200 text, but...other than that we're just having a good time. I was amazed when one of our guys swapped over how much anti-axis smack was going on in the country channel. Just seems odd to me to be that concerned with the other side...
It's a game fellers, have fun! :aok
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Originally posted by republic
I have film of N7 shooting down Tyrant and 87Stuka in goons... If I must, I'll post it.
Believe it or not but....we really aren't that concerned with the allies. Someone will vox about a particularly lame maneuver which is sometimes followed by a 200 text, but...other than that we're just having a good time. I was amazed when one of our guys swapped over how much anti-axis smack was going on in the country channel. Just seems odd to me to be that concerned with the other side...
It's a game fellers, have fun! :aok
~ ~I sing because I'm happy ~ ~ and it makes the rest of the squad howl like coyotes. I thought that was odd also, when I heard that the allieds were typing derogatory stuff about JG54 and me personally on their country channel.
as republic posted we don't concern ourselves at all with what the other side is doing. after all you guys are only so much grist for the mill and nothing else really!
if any of you allied guys are interested in joining JG54 during our next DA training session PM me or any JG54 member and you are welcome to join.
the other players will help you with the pile-it stuff. I will teach you to sing, dance and be a tasteful dresser.
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Originally posted by Larry
We have already discussed the F4F-4. I said it shouldnt be in the first round because it is a mid '42 plane while every other fighter is 1940 era. He and other people were saying it should because its a sub for the F4F-3 which entered service in late 1940. The only reason I said it sohuldnt be in the round is because of the two extra .50cals.
Seems funny that the complaint has gone from how hard it is to kill to just the 2 extra guns.
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Originally posted by Larry
:rofl Please tell me what info is wrong, and please dont try to proove it with wiki as your only source.
Nothing wrong with Wiki, you goober!
Hurricane Mark II through to Mark V
June 11th 1940 a Hurricane Mark I was fitted with a two stage supercharged Rolls Royce Merlin XX engine that at sea level was rated at 1,300hp rising to 1,460hp at 6,250 feet. After numerous tests the aircraft was given the designation of Mark II, the improved power plant being the only difference from the Mark I. This first model of the MkII was known as the Series I. Further modifications took place as designers tried to make improvements to the Hurricane. The next model was given the title of Mark II Series 2. The fuselage was given added strengthening which was needed to accommodate the redesigned wings that incorporated attachment points for external stores. A bay was also introduced into the fuselage that also increased the length by a additional 7 inches (7.7mm).
In November 1940, the Mark II Series 2 was given additional firepower by the inclusion of 12 .303 machine guns mounted in the wings. This version was known as the Hurricane IIB. The Hurricane IIC followed by having four 20mm Hispano cannons also mounted in the wings.
Many of these versions flew during the Battle of Britain with a number of Mark II's being fitted with drop-tanks, some being fitted with light to medium bombs while other had increased stores such as additional room for bullets for the machine guns.
After the Battle of Britain, the Hurricane was further developed, mostly up to and including 1942 even though it was relieved as a front line attack aircraft in the air to air war, and was used mainly as a ground attack aircraft. The Mark IIC served until June 1942 when the Hurricane IID appeared which was basically a IIC but with two 40mm cannons and two .303 machine guns.
The Hurricane II gave way to the Hurricane III with a Packard Merlin power plant, then came the Hurricane IV, the first prototype flying on 14th March 1943 which had been previously known as the Hurricane IIE, but after the designation change was fitted with reinforced under wing attachments to carry bombs and rockets and was given the new Merlin 24 engines that put out 1,620hp. A further alteration saw the Mk V which was a Mk IV but given even more power by the fitting of the 1,700hp Merlin 32 engines and having four bladed propellors.
source material: Battle of Brittain Historical Society (http://www.battleofbritain.net/0010.html)
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Originally posted by Tango
Seems funny that the complaint has gone from how hard it is to kill to just the 2 extra guns.
If that was the only problem, heck, should have gotten the FM2 instead.....
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And now a few words on the Hurri IIC from Aviation Histroy (http://www.aviation-history.com/hawker/hurrcane.html)
During the "Battle of Britain", along with the Spitfire , it helped to force the Luftwaffe to use the Bf 109 to protect the poor performing twin engine Bf 110 escort fighter :rofl
and now the lamented Wikipedia on the Hurricane mK# (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawker_Hurricane#Variants)
Hurricane IIC (Hurricane IIA Series 2)
Hurricane IIA Series 1 equipped with new and slightly longer propeller spinner and new wing mounting four 20-mm Hispano cannons. Hurricane IIA Series 2 became the Mark IIC in June 1941, using a slightly modified wing. The new wings also included a hardpoint for a 500 lb or 250 lb bomb, and later in 1941, fuel tanks. By then performance was inferior to the latest German fighters, and the Hurricane changed to the ground-attack role, sometimes referred to as the Hurribomber. The mark also served as a night fighter and "intruder."
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Battle of Britain was over at the end of 1940. No IIcs saw service in BOB. Some IIAs might have, if I recall.
Anybody that wants a IIC in an early war setup should look at the EWA stats that Lusche posted. About 80% of all kills in the EWA are hurr2c kills.
It's quite over-modeled. The only weakness it has ever had in this game was a small ammo clip. I've seen them dive from 20k without problems. They zoom like they have no drag (and don't take that as fact, please, it's just a complaint).
The hurr2c is so overmodeled that it completely dominates the 109E, as was evident in Fire Over Malta, where on landing 90% of 109F pilots dinged their props (lag), so they had to reup (almost the entire side) in 109Es against Hurr2cs. We were unable to get anything done.
For balance purposes, hurr2C should never be included in "early" war setups. Midwar, sure. Mid-to-early, sure.
Unless the mission is expressly bomber interception, then they would have a place (that was the main reason for 4x20mm).
Edit: P.S. The allies have more planes after BOB. Axis don't have anything til the F-4 and 190A-5 show up, 1.5 to 2 years later. So you add in a Hurr2c, where's the 109E-7N? Where's the 90 rpg ammo clips on the MG/FFm? Where's the later marks of bombers? Our Ju88 is early 1941, while our Ki67 is late '44 (I think). Not much in between. You have to be careful using "just" service dates -- because sometimes there's no equivelant on the other team.
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Originally posted by Tango
Seems funny that the complaint has gone from how hard it is to kill to just the 2 extra guns.
Tango go get some glasses then read the other thread. Have someone else read if you you cant comprehend.
Originally posted by Odee
Nothing wrong with Wiki, you goober!
Yea whatever you say.
Originally posted by EagleEyes
If that was the only problem, heck, should have gotten the FM2 instead.....
Yep lets just sub it with a late '44 plane thats 30mph faster and turns alot better.
As for the hurriIIC, its way over modeled and has no place in any AvA setups. Plus people would use it as a fighter instead of how it was used in the war.
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Originally posted by Larry
...Yep lets just sub it with a late '44 plane thats 30mph faster and turns alot better.
As for the hurriIIC, its way over modeled and has no place in any AvA setups. Plus people would use it as a fighter instead of how it was used in the war.
As opposed to the under modeled 110's right? How about the 190's while you're at it?
TK, with his 80 hours in the AvA. Vulching, and Picking his way to the top of the heap.
<> and out.
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Originally posted by ACB
Originally posted by Larry
I hate to tell you but we keep most of our trash talk on squad channel....
I mean if most of your trash talking is in squad Chnl it must be jammed totally jammed....Like you act out the part of the Allied pilot to be trashed while your squadys yell obscenities at you? Thats crazyness. :rofl [/B]
Hence the name "TATERNUTZI" was annointed or should I say Annoyingted!!!
Mugadai of the Only MUNGADAI WARRIOR,
Mugadie, Mugarun, Mugadork, Muga this Muga that, and not to mention Pigmie(should be Pygmy) Warrior, written by the Illiterate Storch (and he was telling ACB to take spelling lessons??? )
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the only allied plane that stands a chance vs a good 109 stick is the spitfire in most of these setups.
lucky for us, truekill and the large mouth low skill types are only still learning. :D
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Originally posted by B@tfinkV
the only allied plane that stands a chance vs a good 109 stick is the spitfire in most of these setups.
lucky for us, truekill and the large mouth low skill types are only still learning. :D
Like you and your noob spitdweebs?:aok
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Originally posted by Odee
As opposed to the under modeled 110's right? How about the 190's while you're at it?
TK, with his 80 hours in the AvA. Vulching, and Picking his way to the top of the heap.
<> and out.
Are you whining about the plane or me? Unlike you I can kill without my buddies help. I have that many hours in there because I dont fly MA that much. Me110 under mideled naw it looks pretty good to me.
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Originally posted by XAKL
Mugadai of the Only MUNGADAI WARRIOR,
Mugadie, Mugarun, Mugadork, Muga this Muga that, and not to mention Pigmie(should be Pygmy) Warrior, written by the Illiterate Storch (and he was telling ACB to take spelling lessons??? )
Hey tardlet, um storch knew he was spelling pygmy wrong. Hell we were laughing about you trying to spell check him when you're useing "u" for you, and other kiddie typing.
BTW you still wanna do that "duel" you in a spit and me in a 190? Just dont whine when I dont turn with you.
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Originally posted by Larry
Like you and your noob spitdweebs?:aok
do you really want me and my spit dweebs to come fly in AvA? we might have to if the smack talk doesnt start being backed up with some decent flying. i dont think you would like it much.
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Originally posted by B@tfinkV
do you really want me and my spit dweebs to come fly in AvA? we might have to if the smack talk doesnt start being backed up with some decent flying. i dont think you would like it much.
Yea we need more targets.:D
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Originally posted by B@tfinkV
do you really want me and my spit dweebs to come fly in AvA? we might have to if the smack talk doesnt start being backed up with some decent flying. i dont think you would like it much.
please do come batty. you guys are always fun and the fights will be better for all involved. I can tell you that I would rather die 10 times per hour in a good fight than get 10 kills while dodging ack with the huggers. not that I'm going to be dying to you, you understand.
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of course not, that would be just unthinkable.
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Originally posted by Larry
Tango go get some glasses then read the other thread. Have someone else read if you you cant comprehend.
The other thread you complained about it being hard to kill, not an early war plane, and being UBER compared to the 109E, 110c4, AND the Zero. Of course you have no problem having a mix of planes that never served together [Zero with German AC]
However you and your guys don't have a problem wanting the other side to get low and slow in turn fights with your 109s and 110s and have the Zero pilots come in and pick us off. Of course when we don't do that and use BnZ attacks with the P-40 you guys cry and whine.
I don't have much for players that go around thumping thier chests saying "Look at me, look how good I am". That shows lack of sportsmanship.
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Originally posted by Larry
Yep lets just sub it with a late '44 plane thats 30mph faster and turns alot better.
As for the hurriIIC, its way over modeled and has no place in any AvA setups. Plus people would use it as a fighter instead of how it was used in the war.
Ok, but the 110 is way over modeled. 110s were being destroyed as easily as a transport would have been. After about a month into the BoB, the Germans had to start giving the 110s escorts!! And just before it ended, they pulled the 110s from frontline, daytime service. The 110 became a strictly night fighter used against bombers....Like the Hurricane MkIIC. So if the Hurricane IIC doesnt belong in the AvA, should the 110C?? Yes i know the 110C was used DURING the Battle of Britain, but its way too over modeled to be used!!! No way in real life a 110 could turn with a Hurricane low and slow.....
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Originally posted by Larry
BTW you still wanna do that "duel" you in a spit and me in a 190? Just dont whine when I dont turn with you.
If dueling against U will make UR pathetic life happy, go grab UR 190, I'll grab my Spit. I'll be more than happy to kill U. Make sure U go back and re-read the parameter, there is a time limit. I'm not going to waste a minute of my time chasing UR FW when I can do that in AvA. Just remember and check UR memory bank, I never whine, it's U and Storch who whines whenever I kill you.
MUGADAI of the only MUNGADAI WARRIORS
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Originally posted by EagleEyes
No way in real life a 110 could turn with a Hurricane low and slow.....
Can't in Aces High either.
Not to mention, instead of having the most accurate, powerful cannons in the game, it has the weakest, least accurate cannons.
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oh yes it can!! Happened many times last frame. You guys were flying those 110s like they were zeros!!
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(http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/4/24/1013733/110vshurri.jpg)
You got out flown not out turned.
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then please explain what you did to turn with a hurri or spit?
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When most people turn they do so in a flat circle. So I pull up and then dive back down and cut the corner. Its called something but I cant remember it right now.
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The spits and hurries do the same thing, as soon as there is a turn fight they go into a flat turn. All we have to do is go up and over and they are in our guns, alot of fun, just keep doing the same.
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Thank you TK and TBarone, now i know what to tell my guys. Didnt realize thats what you guys did....
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Originally posted by Larry
When most people turn they do so in a flat circle. So I pull up and then dive back down and cut the corner. Its called something but I cant remember it right now.
"Nose high turn" (alternating with a "nose low turn).
And ... as an alternative ....
"High Yo-Yo"
(And counters)
http://myweb.cableone.net/rentrus/ACM.htm#turn
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yo-yo thats it :aok
Thats a nice site ganna have to look at it some more.
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Originally posted by EagleEyes
then please explain what you did to turn with a hurri or spit?
The problem is the term "turn fighting" and that leads to a lot of confusion and whines on Channel 200. Quite a few take its literal meaning and think it's nothing but two planes in a Luftberry trying to kill each other and that's what gets them killed because they are quite literally thinking in 2D when they should think in 3D.
Because they perceive the fight in 2D, they don't realize that a plane that is the less capable turn fighter in the fight, can use other means to gain an angle to cut inside of the better turning plane. Planes like the FW190 series and P-38s are good at this. FW190's have a great roll rate and as such can use it to cut inside of the enemy's turn for an angle and shot. The P-38 can use vertical maneuvers like High and Low Yo-Yo's and at higher speeds its roll rate to do the same.
So that's how Larry shot you down. He didn't didn't turn with you, he was able to maneuver his plane in such a way that allowed him to cut inside of your turn for an angle and the kill.
Instead of thinking "Turn Fighting", think "Angles Fighting" instead.
ack-ack
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Originally posted by Larry
Every time odee gets killed theres always a HO or stupid axis uber cannons quote from him. He was even talking crap about JG54 on country channel today saying we always do it. I hate to tell you but we keep most of our trash talk on squad channel. Odees problem is he blames everyone but himself when he dies.[/B]
Sounds very familiar. There is an axis pilot that does this also. If only I could remember his name. It's on the tip of my tongue. I think it might be sorch, or torch. Something like that.
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Originally posted by Tbarone
The spits and hurries do the same thing, as soon as there is a turn fight they go into a flat turn. All we have to do is go up and over and they are in our guns, alot of fun, just keep doing the same.
Also helps to have 3 or 4 guys making passes while 1 guy tries to keep the Spit or Hurri turning.
Come to think of it... I think that is probably more important than any "ACM" nonsense.
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wow urchin this is whining on an epic scale, impressive even for an inveterate whiner such as yourself.
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Originally posted by EagleEyes
then please explain what you did to turn with a hurri or spit?
Hi yo-yo's, ...Manual Trimming, ...Lots of Flaps. Couple three or four other things they can do to the novice pilot.
TK I get most of my kills 1v1 rather than in a Wolf Pack of other pilots. You and your canons on the other hand, make high speed one pass kills. So I guess I'm asking whats your point on that?
While I'm on the subject of TK... WTF were you doing on Allied side the other day when there was only 1 allied pilot V. 8 or 12 Axis? Pick a side and stay there... That goes for everybody.
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howdy odee it seems to me every time i run into you I'm alone and you are in a herd. what am I doing wrong? how can I get you all alone, just you and I mano a mano?
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boy ODEE You and your girlfriend ACB always have something to cry about. why dont you change your diaper and have some fun. maybe mommy will put some anti rash cream on for you. :D :D
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Originally posted by justguess
howdy odee it seems to me every time i run into you I'm alone and you are in a herd. what am I doing wrong? how can I get you all alone, just you and I mano a mano?
HAAAAAAAAAHahahaaAAahahaaa.
Storchita.... that is comedy GOLD. Especially coming from an .. hmm.. how did you put it.. 'inveterate' gangbanging little sissy as yourself.
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Originally posted by Odee
While I'm on the subject of TK... WTF were you doing on Allied side the other day when there was only 1 allied pilot V. 8 or 12 Axis? Pick a side and stay there... That goes for everybody.
I went allied when I saw only one on agenst a dozen of us. Since we have already took all the bases without the huge citys I wanted to get some gun time. I then took a P47D11 with out the axis uber cannons. I took the smallest gun pack 6 guns with 267 rpg. I flew it at an alt of 800ft and killed every axis plane I could find. Tyrant got me while I was engine less and blacked out after making a mistake attacking stodds Ju88s from dead six. In a matter of 10 mins I got six kills and died only once in it. So once again its not the plane its the pilot.
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Originally posted by Larry
I went allied when I saw only one on agenst a dozen of us. Since we have already took all the bases without the huge citys I wanted to get some gun time. I then took a P47D11 with out the axis uber cannons. I took the smallest gun pack 6 guns with 267 rpg. I flew it at an alt of 800ft and killed every axis plane I could find. Tyrant got me while I was engine less and blacked out after making a mistake attacking stodds Ju88s from dead six. In a matter of 10 mins I got six kills and died only once in it. So once again its not the plane its the pilot.
Shame more of you didn't go over to even the odds... Yeah those weak pathetic 6 guns must have really hurt your pride. Especially when you had to shoot all those guys on your squad. Jeeze, I'm sure you didn't have them just line up in front of you to make your point either, huh.
The point was; Pick a side and stay there. If the odds are less the 2v1 log out and come back later. But I guess that 'honor' thing doesn't apply to most of you guys, does it?
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Odee, I will participate on whichever side I deem in Tyrants best interest.
If I need to switch to even thing out in order to get into a fight I will do so.
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Allies had the numbers last night...not really a problem.
Most of JG54 (dare I say all?) have been known to and do on occasion swap sides. Usually, however, when sides are off we try new tactics, fly bomber missions, dogfight only, up separately scattered around, etc. We don't transform into JG54 squad of doom, until we need to. :)
Storchimus Prime
Tbarricade
Republibee
Wildewave
TKscream
N7atron
AZbaercrusher
Tyrantswipe
and others...
JG54...more than meets the eye.
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Originally posted by Larry
*snip*
You got out flown not out turned. [/B]
Where can I find those? I see they're much more comprehensive than DokGonzo's.
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Originally posted by Motherland
Where can I find those? I see they're much more comprehensive than DokGonzo's.
The program?
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Originally posted by PhantomBarron
Odee, I will participate on whichever side I deem in Tyrants best interest.
If I need to switch to even thing out in order to get into a fight I will do so.
Confucious say those who speak of self in third person starve for name recognition. ;)
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Originally posted by Larry
The program?
The charts. Wasn't sure if it was a website or not from a glance (but upon further inspection its pretty sure its not a website).
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Originally posted by Motherland
The charts. Wasn't sure if it was a website or not from a glance (but upon further inspection its pretty sure its not a website).
http://gonzoville.com/ahcharts/index.php
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Originally posted by PhantomBarron
Odee, I will participate on whichever side I deem in Tyrants best interest.
If I need to switch to even thing out in order to get into a fight I will do so.
Well that's all fine and dandy bubi... your dime and all that aside, it doesn't do the arena's rep any good when new players go in there getting killed by you one minute, then seeing you on their side the next. It breeds suspicion and doubt as to your true motives.
AvA was, or so I was told, about picking a side and staying the course. So that too has gone by the side. Now we have a semi-MA mini-arena. Cool. See you in there for some dogfighting sometime.
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Originally posted by Tango
http://gonzoville.com/ahcharts/index.php
No its Spatula's program. It can be found here (http://www.my2cents.co.nz/AKUAG/Resources_Files/PerfComp.aspx).
Originally posted by Odee
Well that's all fine and dandy bubi... your dime and all that aside, it doesn't do the arena's rep any good when new players go in there getting killed by you one minute, then seeing you on their side the next. It breeds suspicion and doubt as to your true motives.
AvA was, or so I was told, about picking a side and staying the course. So that too has gone by the side. Now we have a semi-MA mini-arena. Cool. See you in there for some dogfighting sometime.
Make up your mind. First you want us to fly allied, then when we do and show you its easy you ***** and whine about us switching sides. Funny thing is you switch sides all the time. SO just stop before you dig yourself in any deeper.
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Originally posted by Odee
Well that's all fine and dandy bubi... your dime and all that aside, it doesn't do the arena's rep any good when new players go in there getting killed by you one minute, then seeing you on their side the next. It breeds suspicion and doubt as to your true motives.
AvA was, or so I was told, about picking a side and staying the course. So that too has gone by the side. Now we have a semi-MA mini-arena. Cool. See you in there for some dogfighting sometime.
A couple of guys switching sides is not the problem. The problem is the Allies can't get it together yet. We're trying but we keep getting a bloody nose. Blaming plane sets, whining about this ride and that ride, and complaining because somebody switches sides to even out a slow evening isn't going to fix the problem. Complaining in the Allied AVA thread that nobody's doing things your way doesn't help either. If people are not following you, there may be a reason for it. Maybe you need to blame yourself, not everybody else in the freakin sim.
We're being out fought , out thought, and out flown. That's the simple truth. Until you're honest with yourself and accept that, and do something to fix it, you're just going to keep making an a** out of yourself with these silly post.
Accept the freakin failure and do something to fix it. Learn from it, improve on it, change it, but quit crying about it. Quit blaming the Axis with this stupid side switching crap. They don't need to spy they're kicking the stuffing out of us and beating us to the punch without stupid accusations. There is no conspiracy, no gestapo spies, no alien technology from Roswell.
The Axis are your opponants, denial is your true enemy.
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Originally posted by Shifty
no alien technology from Roswell.
We cannot confirm nor deny these accusations.
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Originally posted by Larry
We cannot confirm nor deny these accusations.
I just threw that out there to see if he'd run with it. At least it would be a new whine.
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Originally posted by Shifty
A couple of guys switching sides is not the problem. The problem is the Allies can't get it together yet. We're trying but we keep getting a bloody nose. Blaming plane sets, whining about this ride and that ride, and complaining because somebody switches sides to even out a slow evening isn't going to fix the problem. Complaining in the Allied AVA thread that nobody's doing things your way doesn't help either. If people are not following you, there may be a reason for it. Maybe you need to blame yourself, not everybody else in the freakin sim.
We're being out fought , out thought, and out flown. That's the simple truth. Until you're honest with yourself and accept that, and do something to fix it, you're just going to keep making an a** out of yourself with these silly post.
Accept the freakin failure and do something to fix it. Learn from it, improve on it, change it, but quit crying about it. Quit blaming the Axis with this stupid side switching crap. They don't need to spy they're kicking the stuffing out of us and beating us to the punch without stupid accusations. There is no conspiracy, no gestapo spies, no alien technology from Roswell.
The Axis are your opponants, denial is your true enemy.
Hey .... I'm all for whineless dedication to the cause. I'm glad to see the Axis pilots rise to the occasion (oompa-hobnail-clog-gloating and all). If ever the war becomes a Pacific campaign and the F4U looms on the horizon, the brave meatball Samauri zen-uber-base-snatchers will be my best friends for I know they'll populate the adversary list and allow me to live my blue fantasy. Even with my radio fragged. :D
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Originally posted by Shifty
I just threw that out there to see if he'd run with it. At least it would be a new whine.
I've been considering switching to the allieds team and see if it's really the planes or players. it has to be awful to get pounded night after night and then have to suffer the slings and arrows of the 200 taunts as well.
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save you the trouble , its the pilots , for the most part
now can this thread just die
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Originally posted by 1redrum
save you the trouble , its the pilots , for the most part
now can this thread just die
do you think one or two aggressive leaders could turn it around for you guys? the play is best when the sides are competently matched. it is no fun if one side simply runs rough shod over the other time and again.
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Originally posted by Arlo
allow me to live my blue fantasy.
Ever tried Amsterdam? I hear anything goes there.
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Never recommend anything on hearsay. :D
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Originally posted by Arlo
Never recommend anything on hearsay. :D
Okay then... Stay away from the goat show there.;)
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I don't know if Odee has ever done it, but I've had other allies complain when I've roped them and they are the first to shoot! And than they start to stall and I blow them up. Sometimes they whine HO, sometimes they don't.
If you get HO'd by me, you started shooting first. I wait till I see tracers or hear a few pings before I punish you. :aok
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Originally posted by Shifty
Ever tried Amsterdam? I hear anything goes there.
most anything does, but not everything :D
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Originally posted by justguess
do you think one or two aggressive leaders could turn it around for you guys? the play is best when the sides are competently matched. it is no fun if one side simply runs rough shod over the other time and again.
Allies need aggressive followers. They have aggressive leaders aplenty.
Larry- Quit twisting my words to meet your agenda.
This has always been my stance in AvA: For people to pick a side and stay there. If the numbers go more than 2 v 1 a side, then go somewhere else, or direct the battle from the tower.
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Originally posted by Odee
Allies need aggressive followers. They have weinies for leaders.
Larry- you're a nice guy and you're absolutely right, i have no clue what im talking about.
This has always been my stance in AvA: For people to pick a side and stay there. If the numbers go more than 2 v 1 a side, sacrifice yourself for the good of the cause, either that or find a sheep and watch from the tower.
Well spoken!! like a true patriot!
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Originally posted by captain1ma
I don't know the difference between "your" and "you're" yet somehow I think I'm qualified to edit someone else's post.
I concur! :D
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Originally posted by captain1ma
Well spoken!! like a true patriot!
Thank you. Finally we agree on something.
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you didnt get it, look at my post again
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Originally posted by captain1ma
you didnt get it, look at my post again
Yes please Odee look again, Jaeger needs more attention!!!!
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Originally posted by justguess
I've been considering switching to the allieds team and see if it's really the planes or players. it has to be awful to get pounded night after night and then have to suffer the slings and arrows of the 200 taunts as well.
Axis side is really no different and the Allied side in terms of skill. The only advantage the Axis side is their team work which is admittedly better than the Allied side. But as for flying skill, there is no difference between the majority of the Axis and Allied flyers.
ack-ack
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
Axis side is really no different and the Allied side in terms of skill. The only advantage the Axis side is their team work which is admittedly better than the Allied side. But as for flying skill, there is no difference between the majority of the Axis and Allied flyers.
ack-ack
there I will agree to an extent but with the caveat that the average AvA axis players are far more proficient in their rides while the allied players seem to be jack of all rides yet never the master of any one ride. of course as with any generalization there will be some exceptions.
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Originally posted by Larry
..I dont have to fly a few frames in allied planes to know that they are much easier to fly then german planes. Iv did it before, but as long as Im the axis C/O I wont go help the "enemy" win. I did fly a few times for the allies last war, but that ws only when they were saverley out numbered and we were just fighting, not taking bases. You and your constant whining about axis cannons and us using then to HO is getting old. Most of the times I killed you and you whined about the 110s cannons I was infact only firing the 7.9mms at you. You guys now have three HO machines and I guarantee that is what most of you will do with them. Hell even your bomber this round has eight forward firing .50cals. Just because you cant handle the fact that some of the LW flyers are better then you, you whine about how crappy the allied rides are when in fact the hurri1 was the best plane this that setup.
Im a LW flyer I fly them because they are more of a challenge, and since I wont be able to get any medels if I switch sides Im sticking to axis this war. If you would like to open me a second accout I would glady fly allied with it and teach you a few things if not please stop being such a cry baby.
Tell the truth, excluding his running, did he make it past the 5 second mark? It seems that the more they suck, the louder they are :rofl :rofl :rofl
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Originally posted by Odee
Allies need aggressive followers. They have aggressive leaders aplenty.
Larry- Quit twisting my words to meet your agenda.
This has always been my stance in AvA: For people to pick a side and stay there. If the numbers go more than 2 v 1 a side, then go somewhere else, or direct the battle from the tower.
Originally posted by Odee
Shame more of you didn't go over to even the odds... Yeah those weak pathetic 6 guns must have really hurt your pride. Especially when you had to shoot all those guys on your squad. Jeeze, I'm sure you didn't have them just line up in front of you to make your point either, huh.
The point was; Pick a side and stay there. If the odds are less the 2v1 log out and come back later. But I guess that 'honor' thing doesn't apply to most of you guys, does it?
Again make up your mind.
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Larry, Larry, Larry, Larry... You missed the sarcasm, didin't you?
Originally posted by captain1ma
you didnt get it, look at my post again
:rofl :rofl :rofl
I cannot believe you actually fell for mine! :rofl :rofl :rofl
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Originally posted by justguess
there I will agree to an extent but with the caveat that the average AvA axis players are far more proficient in their rides while the allied players seem to be jack of all rides yet never the master of any one ride. of course as with any generalization there will be some exceptions.
Yep, you're absolutely correct.
ack-akc
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hell man go see a doctor you mis-spelled your cpid. that's two errors in a day not a typical occurance with you. :D
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Originally posted by Odee
Allies need aggressive followers. They have aggressive leaders aplenty.
They need competent players that know their plane and ACM. It was sad to see a lot of the Allied pilots enter into a defensive Luftberry as soon as they got jumped. It was also sad seeing Allied pilots in planes that can easily match anything the Axis had but yet not being able to do squat because they had no clue as to what their plane could do.
ack-ack
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The Axis pilots know their planes, their limits, their advantages and how to use both to win a fight. So even with the best allied planes, i feel we are at a disadvantage unless we change our tactics....
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JG54 has been in the AvA a looong time. We're very familiar with our tools of war and how to use them against our allied counterparts. Some our pilots are downright frighteningly good. As a squad we've been together a long time. I'm one of the newbies and I've been in JG54 coming up on 2 years soon. We know how each other fights, and who's good at what. (Lets just say if your anywhere near Tyrant and he's in an Ostie...your toast. N7, if it has a stick he'll kill you with it, Tbar is a 109 fiend, Storch is a master of the knife fight, TK is a sniper once he decides to kill you...it's only a matter of time.)
The MA is a completely different place to fight. So the skills that make a good MA pilot do not translate well into the AvA. The MA is much more BnZ while the AvA is more sustained dogfighting.
In time, allied squads will rise to the challenge. I can't wait. :)
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Originally posted by republic
JG54 has been in the AvA a looong time. We're very familiar with our tools of war and how to use them against our allied counterparts. Some our pilots are downright frighteningly good. As a squad we've been together a long time. I'm one of the newbies and I've been in JG54 coming up on 2 years soon. We know how each other fights, and who's good at what. (Lets just say if your anywhere near Tyrant and he's in an Ostie...your toast. N7, if it has a stick he'll kill you with it, Tbar is a 109 fiend, Storch is a master of the knife fight, TK is a sniper once he decides to kill you...it's only a matter of time.)
The MA is a completely different place to fight. So the skills that make a good MA pilot do not translate well into the AvA. The MA is much more BnZ while the AvA is more sustained dogfighting.
In time, allied squads will rise to the challenge. I can't wait. :)
ROFL.....must........resist.. .................com...
:lol :rofl :t :t
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Originally posted by republic
The MA is a completely different place to fight. So the skills that make a good MA pilot do not translate well into the AvA. The MA is much more BnZ while the AvA is more sustained dogfighting.
In time, allied squads will rise to the challenge. I can't wait. :)
Honestly, the majority of the skill on the Axis side is not derived from any "dogfighting" skills but rather on teamwork and flying in a hord. Until the Allied side can start flying in as a group, the Axis hord will vulch, gang and cherry pick all day.
Don't kid yourself either if you think the AvA is somehow a step above the MA, it really isn't. It's just an illusion some of you regulars have, it's just a mini-MA in a "historical" dress. Every bad thing you can list about the MA you can find in the AvA every day of the week.
ack-ack
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
Honestly, the majority of the skill on the Axis side is not derived from any "dogfighting" skills but rather on teamwork and flying in a hord. Until the Allied side can start flying in as a group, the Axis hord will vulch, gang and cherry pick all day.
Don't kid yourself either if you think the AvA is somehow a step above the MA, it really isn't. It's just an illusion some of you regulars have, it's just a mini-MA in a "historical" dress. Every bad thing you can list about the MA you can find in the AvA every day of the week.
ack-ack
Agreed
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
Honestly, the majority of the skill on the Axis side is not derived from any "dogfighting" skills but rather on teamwork and flying in a hord. Until the Allied side can start flying in as a group, the Axis hord will vulch, gang and cherry pick all day.
Don't kid yourself either if you think the AvA is somehow a step above the MA, it really isn't. It's just an illusion some of you regulars have, it's just a mini-MA in a "historical" dress. Every bad thing you can list about the MA you can find in the AvA every day of the week.
ack-ack
Yep we even have akak now.
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sheesh it seems that last night the arena created a few more "sore" losers.
it may seem to some that the AvA is now operating much like the MAs do. the exception is that the game play is designed around squad participation. unit cohesion is paramount for success with this type of gameplay. the axis squadrons are very tightly knit organizations from the looks of the things. JG11 fly on the par of JG54 and the avengers fly well together but are still sorting out the FM differences from WB to AH.
the most consistent AvA squadron in the game is far and away JG54. JG54 always has at least five players on and usually between seven and ten, night in night out. as the most successful squadron in AvA history naturally we will be the target of malignment and derision by players who can't quite cotton up to the thought they were bested. every other squadron with exception to a long ago invasion by the blue knights has been resoundingly and utterly beaten by JG54.
even the blue knights (back when the blue knights were the premier dogfighters in the game) with leviathn leading them took their lumps though at the end of their visit JG54 came away worse for the wear. the blue knights were all in spits and were crowding our fields. through the course of the fighting on those nights is where I came away with many of the tactics we employ today. I studied those films of those fights for hours on end and I learned from my asswhipping. I'm sure if any blue knight were to be asked he would have to say that we upped and upped and upped until they tired of killing us but I'm sure more than a few of them were really sick of seeing storch, N7, Tbarone, VWE as the name that killed them.
regarding akaks post about last night, on more than three occasions N7 was involved in 1v1 combat with akak, knowing who the adversary was we kept our side away and prevented any other allied player from interferring. I will allow akak to post the results of those fair fights if he wishes, we at JG54 already know.
as for the AvA being like the MA, I think not. neither is it like the SEA or any other arena in the game.
you have two sides contesting for a prize over a very lenghty period of time and the struggle is there, available 24/7/365.3
the commanders are elected and my choose aircraft and vehicles from a carefully selected list of matched frames. the victory goes to the team that selects wisely and plays intelligently.
the axis are winning for the very simple reason that the most tightly knit and dedicated group of players are also dedicated axis squads.
I found 1duke1's whines last night comical his post above hillarical. in response to your queries last night about if JG54 was working on an objective, the answer is indeed we were. we were keeping you guys away from saving akak, we wanted akak to have the opportunity to fight N7 mano a mano. I believe we succeeded at that as well.
I'm proud to say that JG54 is a winning squadron because of the spirit of the members that make up this squadron. what occurs in the arena is really just a matter of course. I wish some of you others would wrap your minds around this concept and proceed to develope some credible competition to JG54, it once existed in the form VF27 I wish someone would take up the mantle of leadership and revive the spirit that resided with that group of players. the AvA needs that right about now.
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Originally posted by Shifty
Okay then... Stay away from the goat show there.;)
I happen to enjoy the goat show:)
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Originally posted by justguess
I found 1duke1's whines last night comical his post above hillarical. in response to your queries last night about if JG54 was working on an objective, the answer is indeed we were. we were keeping you guys away from saving akak, we wanted akak to have the opportunity to fight N7 mano a mano. I believe we succeeded at that as well.
The arena you flew in last night was completely different from the arena I flew in last night. The only 1v1 of the night came when I got back from AFK in time to see N7 diving on me in a FW190A-5. All other fights were either 2 to 5v1 fights. When I get home, I'll post the films of the flights I took last night, the 5v1 with the HOing 190s will be of particular enjoyment.
ack-ack
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
The arena you flew in last night was completely different from the arena I flew in last night. The only 1v1 of the night came when I got back from AFK in time to see N7 diving on me in a FW190A-5. All other fights were either 2 to 5v1 fights. When I get home, I'll post the films of the flights I took last night, the 5v1 with the HOing 190s will be of particular enjoyment.
ack-ack
Hey ack, I think this is a misunderstanding. It probably was a 1 vs 1 in their eyes. A JG54 1 vs 1 is when you are fighting 1 of them on the deck with 2 or 3 190s diving in for the pick. See, the 190s are not 'in' the fight so that is what they call 1 vs 1. Although, they are known not to dive in until their squadie is about to die and cries for help :D
I hope that was helpful :rofl
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Originally posted by dedalos
Hey ack, I think this is a misunderstanding. It probably was a 1 vs 1 in their eyes. A JG54 1 vs 1 is when you are fighting 1 of them on the deck with 2 or 3 190s diving in for the pick. See, the 190s are not 'in' the fight so that is what they call 1 vs 1. Although, they are known not to dive in until their squadie is about to die and cries for help :D
I hope that was helpful :rofl
LOL! That clears things up completely!
ack-ack
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hmmmm
Why do I see only one sqaud in here doing alot of chest thumping and bragging about how good they are? One thing I've always noticed was that a good player never has to bragg about himself or his team. Its usually done by thier opponents.
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there was once a time when JG54 were beaten soundly on a regular basis by another squad.
that squad was the Redtails and consisted of just Jamusta and myself.
we just got bored of winning every fight.
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So ... Jamusta still about? You got his number? :D
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jamusta was on just the other day
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I like pie.
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Originally posted by Tango
hmmmm
Why do I see only one sqaud in here doing alot of chest thumping and bragging about how good they are? One thing I've always noticed was that a good player never has to bragg about himself or his team. Its usually done by thier opponents.
And thats what you see here. The whines about our ganging or picking blah blah blah. They call it ganging because they see red icons around them and think they are fighting all. Kinda like when someone is in a 1v1 and Im circleing the fight watching when they point thier nose at me and take a shot. So then I kill them and they whine about me picking or ganging them.
Just like akak last night rolls from a field and goes right for x0cet and storch who are in a 1v1. I see this and roll in and pop him wiht some bullets. He doesnt go down that time but I get him again when he goes up after fireing on storch. And whatda know theres a vulch whine that follows.
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Originally posted by Panzzer
Couldn't you have just sent him a PM?
Some people like their name in lights (http://www.planetsmilies.com/smilies/sick/sick0021.gif)
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I think its rather funny, Axis start complaining about milking, vaulching, hoing, ganging, things of this nature and how its not fair and this and that. And now, thats pretty much what they do now! :huh
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Originally posted by EagleEyes
I think its rather funny, Axis start complaining about milking, vaulching, hoing, ganging, things of this nature and how its not fair and this and that. And now, thats pretty much what they do now! :huh
Walk the walk & talk the talk have not entered the mind set of some axis & allied.
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Originally posted by Grits
I like pie.
I like beating Taternutzi (storch), TurdKill, and JaegerSchnitzel with a Car Antennae
MUGADAI of the MUNGADAI WARRIORS!!
SHOOT'EM IN THE FACE
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Originally posted by XAKL
I like beating Taternutzi (storch), TurdKill, and JaegerSchnitzel with a Car Antennae
MUGADAI of the MUNGADAI WARRIORS!!
SHOOT'EM IN THE FACE
I want a nickname! :furious
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Originally posted by B@tfinkV
there was once a time when JG54 were beaten soundly on a regular basis by another squad.
that squad was the Redtails and consisted of just Jamusta and myself.
we just got bored of winning every fight.
Maybe it's time to relearn them some humility? ;)
Bat, you are just plain scary in anything you fly. I know, having been on both sides of those guns. You're eerie man... Like Yoda in a flight cap or sumpin.
:aok
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Originally posted by XAKL
I like beating Taternutzi (storch), TurdKill, and JaegerSchnitzel with a Car Antennae
MUGADAI of the MUNGADAI WARRIORS!!
SHOOT'EM IN THE FACE
except that the day you can beat me has yet to rise. those were some fun fights tonight, the ones where you couldn't vultch me that is. how's that tail feeling?
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Originally posted by republic
I want a nickname! :furious
how about repubic?
simple yet effective :)
Odee: sadly i think those days are gone. it is now time for a new breed of allies to humiliate the luftwobblers. it just wouldnt be the same if you had to hire mercenaries. sure they get shot down, but it wasnt by the people who really want to do it.
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Bat, ive known you and RedTop for years, cant tell me yall are affraid of the Axis guys!! Im inviting you guys to come in one night and check out the AvA. Would love to have you all in your Spitfires cover one of my F6F raids "whenever we get it"!
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Originally posted by XAKL
I like beating Taternutzi (storch), TurdKill, and JaegerSchnitzel with a Car Antennae
MUGADAI of the MUNGADAI WARRIORS!!
SHOOT'EM IN THE FACE
I like taking you to the DA killing in less then 15 seconds you in your Spit8 with my Spit8(the plane you picked) then getting called a cheater while a laugh at you.
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Originally posted by Larry
Just like akak last night rolls from a field and goes right for x0cet and storch who are in a 1v1. I see this and roll in and pop him wiht some bullets. He doesnt go down that time but I get him again when he goes up after fireing on storch. And whatda know theres a vulch whine that follows.
There is no need to twist the truth Larry. I had just taken off, there was an Allied player and an Axis one fighting right at the end of the runway. As I'm climbing out from take off, the Axis plane is heading at me, I pulled up to avoid him and he I think broke to the right, after that, I went into a Yo-Yo to come back down, not knowing what the Axis pilot was going to do. You then came in for the cherry pick.
And whatda know theres a vulch whine that follows.
Again, tell the truth Larry. My only comment was a reply to both you and a squadron mate of yours that was talking chit. My reply was, "Yep, got shot down quick just after take off."
ack-ack
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
There is no need to twist the truth Larry. I had just taken off, there was an Allied player and an Axis one fighting right at the end of the runway. As I'm climbing out from take off, the Axis plane is heading at me, I pulled up to avoid him and he I think broke to the right, after that, I went into a Yo-Yo to come back down, not knowing what the Axis pilot was going to do. You then came in for the cherry pick.
Again, tell the truth Larry. My only comment was a reply to both you and a squadron mate of yours that was talking chit. My reply was, "Yep, got shot down quick just after take off."
ack-ack
No lets try the truth. You roll and with your gears just up you point your nose at storch who is fighting x0cet with his back to you. At that same time I see this and drop in on you. By the time I get to you and give you a fuel leak they have turned and hes nose to nose with you for less then half a second. He then pulls up so he can get on x0cets six. At that time you fire on him and miss. While he is turning on x0cet you do a yoyo to try to pick him once again but Republic and I blast you before you can. Soon after that mugadai comes in and picks storch then I kill him. Then you said "AKAK :200: yep, got vulched soon after take off *shrug*" in response to VWE asking if you were dead already.
You made the first aggressive move and paid for it. If you had turned away from storch and we killed you then yes it would have been a vulch, but because you turned into him while he was in a 1v1 you showed you wanted to fight already and you got your fight.
Thats the truth if you dont think it is Ill be glad to post the film.
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:rolleyes:
why not go fight in the DA? that is the only place where a fight is equal through choice and therefore the only fight that is worth bragging about.
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Originally posted by Larry
I like taking you to the DA killing in less then 15 seconds you in your Spit8 with my Spit8(the plane you picked) then getting called a cheater while a laugh at you.
Well ... at least I'm lasting more than 15 seconds. :D
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Originally posted by Arlo
Well ... at least I'm lasting more than 15 seconds. :D
You flying with a bad hangover with your left hand and one eye open is still about ten times better then mugadai. Your a dam good stick you just the rust beat off you, and Im glad I can be one of them that can help you with that.:aok
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Originally posted by XAKL
I like beating Taternutzi (storch), TurdKill, and JaegerSchnitzel with a Car Antennae
MUGADAI of the MUNGADAI WARRIORS!!
SHOOT'EM IN THE FACE
hmmm jaegerSchitzel, i like it!! :) and he even spelled it right!! not bad for a 17year old in modern day america :aok
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Well ... at least I'm lasting more than 15 seconds. :D
Is she happy with your progress?
I made it glow
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This new forum is ugly :(.
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This new forum is ugly :(.
I rather like it... Easy to navigate for this old codger.
:aok
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This new forum is ugly :(.
I agree... If they wanted to go free they should have went with phpBB...this one looks like it's state of the art circa 1998. :(
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hmmm jaegerSchitzel, i like it!! :) and he even spelled it right!! not bad for a 17year old in modern day america :aok
Just how do U manage to screw up the spelling even after I wrote it down for U, Village idiot!
MUGADAI of the ONLY MUNGADAI WARRIORS
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And thats what you see here. The whines about our ganging or picking blah blah blah. They call it ganging because they see red icons around them and think they are fighting all. Kinda like when someone is in a 1v1 and Im circleing the fight watching when they point thier nose at me and take a shot. So then I kill them and they whine about me picking or ganging them.
Just like akak last night rolls from a field and goes right for x0cet and storch who are in a 1v1. I see this and roll in and pop him wiht some bullets. He doesnt go down that time but I get him again when he goes up after fireing on storch. And whatda know theres a vulch whine that follows.
Did you read what I posted?
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Did you read what I posted?
Tango, Tardkill has tunnelvision to go along with his tunnel whines, don't you turdy?? Maybe a box of chocolates might do him in.
MUGADAI of the Only MUNGADAI WARRIORS
:P
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Tango, Tardkill has tunnelvision to go along with his tunnel whines, don't you turdy?? Maybe a box of chocolates might do him in.
MUGADAI of the Only MUNGADAI WARRIORS
:P
I think its required to be in JG54.
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Is she happy with your progress?
I made it glow
I've heard of those condoms. Heh. :D
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And thats what you see here. The whines about our ganging or picking blah blah blah. They call it ganging because they see red icons around them and think they are fighting all. Kinda like when someone is in a 1v1 and Im circleing the fight watching when they point thier nose at me and take a shot. So then I kill them and they whine about me picking or ganging them.
You would have to be kind of close for that to happen, no? If I say you "watching" at less than 1K I may get confused like that too :D
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You would have to be kind of close for that to happen, no? If I say you "watching" at less than 1K I may get confused like that too :D
If I remember right, icon range is 2.5k
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This thread should have never been started.
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Most people dont check thier PMs because they dont have the pop up box enabled.
Wrong answer. Use a PM next time, or you are off the board.