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Title: Ki-44
Post by: Slade on May 09, 2013, 11:45:22 AM
If it can be added and modeled as well as HTC did the ki-43 it should be a blast to fly.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Ki-44
Post by: HighTone on May 09, 2013, 12:15:07 PM
+1 for the Shoki


The Ki-44-II would be a blast to fly.

Its needed for the Special Events as well.


Banzai  :cheers:
Title: Re: Ki-44
Post by: Zacherof on May 09, 2013, 03:15:50 PM
(http://i1295.photobucket.com/albums/b629/Zacherof/kkk_zps8b0ef492.jpg) (http://s1295.photobucket.com/user/Zacherof/media/kkk_zps8b0ef492.jpg.html)


+1
Title: Re: Ki-44
Post by: Bruv119 on May 09, 2013, 04:46:28 PM
hmmm a more powerful ki-43 that can roll and turn nearly aswell.  Are you sure you want what your asking for?  Not as if the ki-84 and niki don't cover uber Japanese rides already but i'll give it a +1 for variety.   

still would rather have the yak-3 or meteor first.

Title: Re: Ki-44
Post by: Zacherof on May 09, 2013, 05:58:24 PM
meteor first


got it in 1
 :aok
Title: Re: Ki-44
Post by: Mitsu on May 09, 2013, 10:19:08 PM
+1

Nakajima fighter rules! :D

Ki-44-II would be excellent intercepter like TAIC's report.

Faster than any Japanese fighter except Ki-84. (605km/h 5,200m)
Excellent climb (4 minutes 26 seconds to 5,000m)
Excellent dive performance (over 850km/h)
Good roll performance.
Good maneuverability with "butterfly" combat flap.
Better armament than Ki-43 (12.7mm x4, 250 rounds per gun)

I hope that HTC will model Ho-301 rocket cannon.  :)
Title: Re: Ki-44
Post by: Karnak on May 09, 2013, 10:32:58 PM
Ki-44 and J2M are two of the few remaining competitive fighters left to be added. G.55, Re.2005, Ki-100, Yak-3, P-63, He162 and Meteor are probably the other ones.  Perhaps the Ki-102 might be as well.  The B7A 'Grace' could probably be pressed into service as a somewhat competitive fighter.  Perhaps the SB2C and Firefly as well.

Of course there are many competitive variants of aircraft already in AH that could be added as well.
Title: Re: Ki-44
Post by: Butcher on May 09, 2013, 10:53:00 PM
Ki-44 and J2M are two of the few remaining competitive fighters left to be added. G.55, Re.2005, Ki-100, Yak-3, P-63, He162 and Meteor are probably the other ones.  Perhaps the Ki-102 might be as well.  The B7A 'Grace' could probably be pressed into service as a somewhat competitive fighter.  Perhaps the SB2C and Firefly as well.

Of course there are many competitive variants of aircraft already in AH that could be added as well.

+1 and +1 and +1..... lets just add them all.
Title: Re: Ki-44
Post by: Zacherof on May 09, 2013, 11:34:55 PM
As much as I like the idea of German iron, not so sure about the 162, as it only had 1 kill if dogfights is accurate.  152 had 7 I believe.

But the yak-3, re. 2005, and p-63 are a must for the Italian and Russian line up.



And a +5 for the meteor
Title: Re: Ki-44
Post by: Debrody on May 10, 2013, 03:24:54 AM
hmmm a more powerful ki-43 that can roll and turn nearly aswell.  Are you sure you want what your asking for?  Not as if the ki-84 and niki don't cover uber Japanese rides already but i'll give it a +1 for variety.   

still would rather have the yak-3 or meteor first.
The ki-44 is waaay powerful for the MA. I want my meteor. Hell, no, bring me the English Electric Lightning to chase down those damn jets!!! Or even better, an F-22.
voila, here we go
Title: Re: Ki-44
Post by: Zacherof on May 10, 2013, 03:36:50 AM
The ki-44 is waaay powerful for the MA. I want my meteor. Hell, no, bring me the English Electric Lightning to chase down those damn jets!!! Or even better, an F-22.
voila, here we go

you
silly!!!

We need an me 323
or a ju52
Title: Re: Ki-44
Post by: Wmaker on May 10, 2013, 06:00:29 AM
hmmm a more powerful ki-43 that can roll and turn nearly aswell.

What makes you think that the turn radius of the Ki-44 will be any where near of the Ki-43?

It won't. The difference in wing loading is staggering. Ki-43 is at ~121kg/sqm while the Ki-44-II is closing "the early 109G territory" at 184kg/sqm. Considering how effective the 109's flaps are in AH, I'd say it it'll be much closer to the 109F-4/109G-2 in turn radius. Speed will be lower than 109G-2 especially at higher altitudes.


Not as if the ki-84 and niki don't cover uber Japanese rides already but i'll give it a +1 for variety.

It's not "an uber Japanese ride". Ki-44-II went to production in late '42. Ki-84 will be better overall in AH just like it was in real life. Ki-84 is for example faster and has a lower wingloading.


still would rather have the yak-3 or meteor first.

Well using your logic above one could say that the British and Soviet "uber planes" are well covered aswell. :)
Title: Re: Ki-44
Post by: Mitsu on May 10, 2013, 12:38:13 PM
It's like Japanese La-5... :D
Title: Re: Ki-44
Post by: bozon on May 12, 2013, 03:31:12 AM
More Japanese planes is generally good.

However, I hope it will be nothing like the KI43/Brew. I have developed a strong resentment of the KI43s that like to come along and jump in when some K4/La7/P51 force me to slow down and fight them. I now target them at a priority much higher then their actual threat just to prevent them from getting a free kill on me. It is silly, but a KI43 in the area keeps me more worried than a KI84.
Title: Re: Ki-44
Post by: danny76 on May 12, 2013, 03:48:34 AM
Hell, no, bring me the English Electric Lightning

Just the thought of the Lightning nearly caused a trouser accident :banana:
Title: Re: Ki-44
Post by: Karnak on May 12, 2013, 09:25:30 AM
More Japanese planes is generally good.

However, I hope it will be nothing like the KI43/Brew. I have developed a strong resentment of the KI43s that like to come along and jump in when some K4/La7/P51 force me to slow down and fight them. I now target them at a priority much higher then their actual threat just to prevent them from getting a free kill on me. It is silly, but a KI43 in the area keeps me more worried than a KI84.
Barring the Ki-27 or A5M, all of the ultra-turny Japanese fighters have been added.  The Ki-44 and J2M were both interceptors with, for Japanese standards, high wing loading.  The Japanese twin engined fighters are also not supposed to be stellar turners.
Title: Re: Ki-44
Post by: bozon on May 12, 2013, 09:45:19 AM
Barring the Ki-27 or A5M, all of the ultra-turny Japanese fighters have been added.  The Ki-44 and J2M were both interceptors with, for Japanese standards, high wing loading.  The Japanese twin engined fighters are also not supposed to be stellar turners.
Good.
Request approved by Bozon.
Title: Re: Ki-44
Post by: Butcher on May 12, 2013, 09:52:53 AM
One interesting thing about the Ki-44 is during the annual Evaluation of fighters, the Japanese Navy/Army put the Zero up against the Ki-44, the Army boosted it was a far better fighter plane. After the disaster of a show for the army, they tried everything to increase performance and such. Top Speed was only 389mph however all tests were done without armament etc. Early 44's were armed with a pair of 7.7 and 12.7mm machine guns.

Pilots were not happy with the lack of manoeuverability and high speed landings, it was troublesome for veteran pilots and like the corsair - deadly to green pilots

It was tested in fights against the 109E/2 and Curtiss P40-E in which the SHoki did outstanding.

Its interesting to note - The Ki.44 would of done great intercepting B17s and B24s over Japan, however with the arrival of the B-29 it was simply outmatched.
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Post by: HighTone on May 12, 2013, 10:06:58 AM
More Japanese planes is generally good.

However, I hope it will be nothing like the KI43/Brew. I have developed a strong resentment of the KI43s that like to come along and jump in when some K4/La7/P51 force me to slow down and fight them. I now target them at a priority much higher then their actual threat just to prevent them from getting a free kill on me. It is silly, but a KI43 in the area keeps me more worried than a KI84.

Its fun flying an Oscar in a 8 vs 1. Having ponies, LA's and K4's doing 500mph passes....what a blast...more cons from more directions than you can keep track of.

I feel for all those that get trapped by a Oscar or Zeke while in a plane that won the war  :bolt: