General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Eagler on March 21, 2024, 03:58:11 PM
Title: Invasion
Post by: Eagler on March 21, 2024, 03:58:11 PM
Please let me know if discussion of national defense is against the bbs policy
I think this invasion can be discussed without politics and strictly from a national security pov
Are any of you for this behavior on our southern border?
I'd be surprised if a couple weren't
Eagler
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: AKIron on March 21, 2024, 04:22:11 PM
In itself maybe not political but it begs a political analysis of the cause. Unrelated, NYC is suing bus companies.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Busher on March 21, 2024, 04:23:13 PM
Did Boeing make the fence? Big Hole in it.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Meatwad on March 21, 2024, 04:27:36 PM
This is why border patrol units need to have support with armored vehicles with automatic weapons. Attack the guards while breaching the barriers, you will get instant punishment. Lets see them try that at a military base....they will need a lot of bodybags to clean up the mess
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: AKIron on March 21, 2024, 04:29:28 PM
In itself maybe not political but it begs a political analysis of the cause. Unrelated, NYC is suing bus companies.
For whatever reason is this not a strange as in twilight zone level event?
Millions allowed in and then setup better than the countries poor all the while going over budget continously trying to pay for it all which weakens the country in other but effective short and long term ways just as the invasion is doing..
Again it becomes a priority national security concern..
I have not heard a why it's happening that has made a second of sense yet..
Eagler
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: AKIron on March 21, 2024, 04:43:18 PM
I think the why is for at least two reasons but I'll keep my 2 cents.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: hazmatt on March 21, 2024, 05:56:16 PM
I heard they were all invited....
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Tumor on March 21, 2024, 06:05:58 PM
Pretty cool how oblivious the general public is unaware of how this problem is going to bite them in the donut in 3..2..1......
This world needs a nuclear equalizer soon.
Hope the cities get hit in that case. That's where all the riftraff is. Otherwise they will all kill each other within a few weeks of a societal breakdown I'm guessing.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Oldman731 on March 21, 2024, 08:45:05 PM
Hope the cities get hit in that case. That's where all the riftraff is. Otherwise they will all kill each other within a few weeks of a societal breakdown I'm guessing.
Not just a Zombie invasion... a Radioactive Zombie Invasion
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: DmonSlyr on March 22, 2024, 06:21:43 AM
It's all part of an agenda. As posted by Elon Musk.
Using their logic, then mr dementia should be charged for treason against the USA
Slipping into the forbidden discussion...
I was hoping some of the more liberal folks here would provide their reasons to support such an action..I am guessing they won't stick their neck out for this obvious abuse of power..
Guessing when the next terrorist cell awakens and acts everyone will act all surprised and attempt to rile everyone up into another 911 patriotic frenzy. ..
Eagler
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Meatwad on March 22, 2024, 06:53:21 AM
Edited it so it stays open longer
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Busher on March 22, 2024, 07:36:43 AM
Do you guys ever have a day that you aren't angry about some issue your hero has stirred up? By the way - if you have any extra change, seems he could use a loan.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Eagler on March 22, 2024, 07:45:59 AM
Do you guys ever have a day that you aren't angry about some issue your hero has stirred up? By the way - if you have any extra change, seems he could use a loan.
Again trying to drag politics into it and get it locked..
Why? Can't explain it either?
It has nothing to due with a particular side as it is destroying both..it's about the health and security of this once great nation..
Some of us don't appreciate the decay and insecurity that seems to be growing in leaps and bounds hourly...
Eagler
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: DmonSlyr on March 22, 2024, 08:03:21 AM
Do you guys ever have a day that you aren't angry about some issue your hero has stirred up? By the way - if you have any extra change, seems he could use a loan.
You have 0 clue the impact this theft is having on the country.
Your clowns are eroding confidence in the American model and American dollar.
Take it from a very successful and global billionaire who works in these markets. I thought you supported the US Constitution? But you are okay with forcing your political opponents to go broke through excessive fines?
"Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted."
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: hazmatt on March 22, 2024, 08:03:28 AM
Seems like (whoever is running this thing) is trying to start a big war somewhere too. Maybe it's because they realized they have run the debt up to unsustainable levels and that it's all going to collapse at some point? The uniparty worked together to accomplish this. This isn't a red team blue team thing. Both teams like to spend tax money on people who never paid taxes too. How do you feel about your tax dollars being sent all over the world? I for one would rather see the money spent here on our people.
I've heard people say that politicians do these things because they are stupid. I don't believe that because they are so destructive. If they were stupid they would sometimes do positive things too. :)
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Eagler on March 22, 2024, 08:24:20 AM
Is it a chapter from Idiocracy where the intelligent stopped producing and the less educated population soared?
We have an entitled group who thinks work especially manual work is not an option as they have figured out how to survive without it so this helps fill those ranks..when have you heard English coming from the workers working on anyone's roof?
Then the military is having issues finding healthy ppl to fill their ranks...
I can say the average military aged male walking into this country illegally seems to be in better physical condition than the average obese us male citizen..they don't look like more have diabetes than don't...
Not sure how putting them up in 5 star hotels, free phones, food, clothing and shelter while us citizens try to survive on much less is ok with anyone but the illegal immigrants...
This country is toast imo if common sense is not restored very soon .. it maybe too late actually
Eagler
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: DmonSlyr on March 22, 2024, 08:24:58 AM
Seems like (whoever is running this thing) is trying to start a big war somewhere too. Maybe it's because they realized they have run the debt up to unsustainable levels and that it's all going to collapse at some point? The uniparty worked together to accomplish this. This isn't a red team blue team thing. Both teams like to spend tax money on people who never paid taxes too. How do you feel about your tax dollars being sent all over the world? I for one would rather see the money spent here on our people.
I've heard people say that politicians do these things because they are stupid. I don't believe that because they are so destructive. If they were stupid they would sometimes do positive things too. :)
They aren't stupid. They are pushing an agenda for the UN, WEF, WHO, without trying to mention it. There are so many organizations tied to this it would make your head spin. You are being replaced. They need cheap indentured labor because they've made it too expensive to hire Americans. Hell, a small business is paying 40-60k a year just on their employees labor. Not to mention benefits they have to pay put. You don't have to give that to indentured servants who will be used as a victim class for now on. It's not red vs blue. It's the establishment vs Trump and citizens. That's why none of the Bush's support Trump. It's clear and easy to see. But it always helps to do more research and look into all of these organizations and who funds them. That's something not even Fox will expose.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Eviscerate on March 22, 2024, 08:30:54 AM
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Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Eagler on March 22, 2024, 08:52:21 AM
Another one who can't justify the actions on the south border..thanks for your invaluable input
Eagler
There was an immigration bill on the house floor roughly 10 days ago - it failed. There is another one today that not only speaks to the border issue, it also funds the Government - it appears it might fail. No immigration bill will be perfect but any improvement will be a start.
Grown men and women learn hopefully early that life is a series of compromises. So quit throwing blame and tell the "powers that be" to grow up and do their jobs like adults.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Eviscerate on March 22, 2024, 09:41:20 AM
There was an immigration bill on the house floor roughly 10 days ago - it failed. There is another one today that not only speaks to the border issue, it also funds the Government - it appears it might fail. No immigration bill will be perfect but any improvement will be a start.
Grown men and women learn hopefully early that life is a series of compromises. So quit throwing blame and tell the "powers that be" to grow up and do their jobs like adults.
Yup. Hard to complain about things not being done when there's a Bipartisan bill that gets shot down by one party.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: AKIron on March 22, 2024, 09:48:10 AM
I won't offer an obvious rebuttal because that would be against the rules. Don't think I'm not thinking it though.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Eagler on March 22, 2024, 09:55:57 AM
I won't offer an obvious rebuttal because that would be against the rules. Don't think I'm not thinking it though.
This...
It wasn't broken until it was and needs nothing that is not there now to fix it again..
The 1st step is not allowing anyone into the country illegally...we can't even get there
Why?
The invasion and victory without the war..wtg!!!
Eagler
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Maverick on March 22, 2024, 10:58:09 AM
The previous "immigration solution bills" are of the same caliber as the crime solution bills in california. Why? Because they codify and make legal breaking the law up to a certain point. In California it is theft up to about $1000 PER INCIDENT, PER THIEF. What has resulted, businesses going under and closing because it makes running the business unsustainable.
Creating a threshold of numbers of illegal aliens per day (only those actually contacted, not the got aways or undetected) means that you have legitimized illegal entry up to that threshold. Does it mean it will permanently be stopped once it has hit, nope, just held in check for a limited time and it starts all over again.
Both of these stupidities are illogical and create an unsustainable situation for the nation. Quite simple we are being overrun. Ask Germany, France and Great Briton how their immigration situation has "benefitted" their nations.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Busher on March 22, 2024, 11:39:17 AM
The previous "immigration solution bills" are of the same caliber as the crime solution bills in california. Why? Because they codify and make legal breaking the law up to a certain point. In California it is theft up to about $1000 PER INCIDENT, PER THIEF. What has resulted, businesses going under and closing because it makes running the business unsustainable.
Creating a threshold of numbers of illegal aliens per day (only those actually contacted, not the got aways or undetected) means that you have legitimized illegal entry up to that threshold. Does it mean it will permanently be stopped once it has hit, nope, just held in check for a limited time and it starts all over again.
Both of these stupidities are illogical and create an unsustainable situation for the nation. Quite simple we are being overrun. Ask Germany, France and Great Briton how their immigration situation has "benefitted" their nations.
So it's a good idea to do nothing until after Jan 20, 2025. Now I understand! :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Eagler on March 22, 2024, 11:39:26 AM
I don't know of anywhere that is now better with this record illegal immigration than it was before these crimes...
Gangs and other criminal elements from Haiti are the latest threat to yet other borders..anyone volunteering to house any of them?
Eagler
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Eagler on March 22, 2024, 11:47:24 AM
There isn't an answer that makes any logical sense which leaves it to the subject that shall not be discussed..which then goes to legality of the entire thing..
Eagler
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: hazmatt on March 22, 2024, 03:51:20 PM
Guess we could have used the billions of tax dollars spent on the criminals breaking the law by coming here illegally and the billions of tax dollars sent as foreign aid to: Ukraine, Israel, Ethiopia, Afghanistan, Yemen, Egypt, Jordan, Nigeria and others.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Busher on March 22, 2024, 03:54:29 PM
No, you don't understand. The previous effective policies that were tossed could easily be reenacted. No new laws necessary.
Actually i do. The remark was sarcastic.
Title 42 was first enacted as an Executive Order enacted with respect to a public health emergency. It was overturned by Judge Emmet G. Sullivan, who ruled that expulsions under Title 42 were a violation of the Administrative Procedure Act, noting that the policy was an "arbitrary and capricious" violation of the Act. That was November of 2022. On December 27, the U.S. Supreme Court granted a stay against Sullivan's decision with a 5–4 split. With the public health crisis now declared over, I see no basis for Executive Order that will likely result in endless Court battles.
I was simply trying to say that the Bi-partisan legislation that failed recently was a move toward a solution for what I agree is a serious crisis. Makes no sense to me that this legislation was not even presented for a vote (and I will hold off laying blame for that failure).
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: guncrasher on March 22, 2024, 04:24:40 PM
Title 42 was first enacted as an Executive Order enacted with respect to a public health emergency. It was overturned by Judge Emmet G. Sullivan, who ruled that expulsions under Title 42 were a violation of the Administrative Procedure Act, noting that the policy was an "arbitrary and capricious" violation of the Act. That was November of 2022. On December 27, the U.S. Supreme Court granted a stay against Sullivan's decision with a 5–4 split. With the public health crisis now declared over, I see no basis for Executive Order that will likely result in endless Court battles.
I was simply trying to say that the Bi-partisan legislation that failed recently was a move toward a solution for what I agree is a serious crisis. Makes no sense to me that this legislation was not even presented for a vote (and I will hold off laying blame for that failure).
I know what you were saying. The fact is that the current admin not only threw out the working in-place policies but started tearing down walls and has fought Texas tooth and nail who are trying to secure our border. This admin first claimed there was no crisis. Now they are trying to shift the blame.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: AKIron on March 22, 2024, 04:32:31 PM
It's as much on the sanctuary cities as it is anyone. They will get their fill and more of those whom they have invited.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: icepac on March 22, 2024, 04:34:41 PM
I wonder if i can walk right into the border without ID, speak only speak spanish, and get free stuff and a new identity?
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Busher on March 22, 2024, 04:56:46 PM
I know what you were saying. The fact is that the current admin not only threw out the working in-place policies but started tearing down walls and has fought Texas tooth and nail who are trying to secure our border. This admin first claimed there was no crisis. Now they are trying to shift the blame.
I appreciate and in many ways respect the sovereignty of Texas but it is for the time being the US border. In your last two sentences you are speaking for others - which is never valid without their presence to offer a rebuttal.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: nrshida on March 22, 2024, 05:04:14 PM
I appreciate and in many ways respect the sovereignty of Texas but it is for the time being the US border. In your last two sentences you are speaking for others - which is never valid without their presence to offer a rebuttal.
I'm not speaking for anyone. I'm saying what happened. Recently, this admin specifically said there was no border crisis. When the sanctuary city mayors started screaming stop the admin had no choice but to acknowledge the crisis but blame someone else.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: AKIron on March 22, 2024, 05:30:29 PM
NYC sued the bus company transporting their invited guests. That's a clear violation of the Interstate Commerce Act and won't stand. There are hundreds of thousands left to send their way and they will get them.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: RUSH1 on March 22, 2024, 05:53:22 PM
There was an immigration bill on the house floor roughly 10 days ago - it failed. There is another one today that not only speaks to the border issue, it also funds the Government - it appears it might fail. No immigration bill will be perfect but any improvement will be a start.
Grown men and women learn hopefully early that life is a series of compromises. So quit throwing blame and tell the "powers that be" to grow up and do their jobs like adults.
Still peddling worthless bills like this https://thehill.com/opinion/immigration/4455506-breaking-down-the-senate-border-bill-and-why-it-has-no-chance-of-passing/, I see.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Eagler on March 22, 2024, 05:58:44 PM
Security concern..importing crime is a crime right?
Eagler
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: RUSH1 on March 22, 2024, 06:00:05 PM
Still peddling worthless bills like this https://thehill.com/opinion/immigration/4455506-breaking-down-the-senate-border-bill-and-why-it-has-no-chance-of-passing/, I see.
One newspaper's opinion but the obvious still stands.... better to do nothing until January 20, 2025?
What scares me more is the division in the country. Sides are so polarized that I am losing sight of any path back to negotiated harmony. Sides have lost the ability to listen to one another and work to find a middle ground. God knows the nation's people will never be unified by force. Is there a tiny morsel of mutual respect left.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: RUSH1 on March 22, 2024, 07:05:05 PM
One newspaper's opinion but the obvious still stands.... better to do nothing until January 20, 2025?
What scares me more is the division in the country. Sides are so polarized that I am losing sight of any path back to negotiated harmony. Sides have lost the ability to listen to one another and work to find a middle ground. God knows the nation's people will never be unified by force. Is there a tiny morsel of mutual respect left.
At what point does the article lose fact and become opinion?
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Busher on March 22, 2024, 07:36:57 PM
And most know that THE HILL is extremely right wing.
Extremely right wing is the only way that matters to them and everyone that lives differently is an enemy and needs to be eliminated. Is basically what I gather from their cult.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: RUSH1 on March 22, 2024, 07:52:55 PM
It's opinion because the definition of a secure border varies from person to person. And most know that THE HILL is extremely right wing.
Exactly. No border (when politically necessary) is the democrat's border policy and why the house shot this pile of watermelon down. Why was the border opened in the first place?
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: RUSH1 on March 22, 2024, 07:54:56 PM
Extremely right wing is the only way that matters to them and everyone that lives differently is an enemy and needs to be eliminated. Is basically what I gather from their cult.
Critique the bill for us then. Also, why was the border opened up to illegals in the first place?
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Meatwad on March 22, 2024, 07:57:36 PM
Exactly. No border (when politically necessary) is the democrat's border policy and why the house shot this pile of watermelon down. Why was the border opened in the first place?
To create an event that would magically cause the election to be halted in a time of crisis or national emergency to ensure the ones in power will stay in power at all costs. Bet that comment gets reported by the same person again
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: hazmatt on March 22, 2024, 08:05:22 PM
What scares me more is the division in the country. Sides are so polarized that I am losing sight of any path back to negotiated harmony. Sides have lost the ability to listen to one another and work to find a middle ground. God knows the nation's people will never be unified by force. Is there a tiny morsel of mutual respect left.
The people who are think they know better then me and want to dictate everything in my life are pushing me towards polarization.
That said, Kennedy would probably have been too far right for the currently Republican party and people like some of the members of "the squad" would be probably be left of Lenin.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Tracerfi on March 22, 2024, 08:09:19 PM
Critique the bill for us then. Also, why was the border opened up to illegals in the first place?
The US as it is today is mainly made up of immigrants that came over 50-100+ years ago right? The US is suppose to be a safe place for everyone including immigrants that want to come here legally I agree that there is a problem right now but unless you want to put machine guns on the border which won't happen and even if it did they have traveled hundreds of miles to get away from violence in their countries so I can see why they do it not that it is okay.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Busher on March 22, 2024, 08:15:55 PM
Exactly. No border (when politically necessary) is the democrat's border policy and why the house shot this pile of watermelon down. Why was the border opened in the first place?
The border was not opened. The legislation to close it never existed. It had been closed under Title 42 by Executive Order under the auspices of a national health emergency.. specifically Covid. When the national health emergency ended, the Executive Order became mute. The nation is still a democracy (for a while yet anyway) and national policy is determined by the Congress not the White House.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: RUSH1 on March 22, 2024, 08:21:47 PM
The people who are think they know better then me and want to dictate everything in my life are pushing me towards polarization.
That said, Kennedy would probably have been too far right for the currently Republican party and people like some of the members of "the squad" would be probably be left of Lenin.
I had this conversation with a friend the other day. There's no way JFK or MLK would support the democrat party today. Not a chance.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: RUSH1 on March 22, 2024, 08:26:47 PM
The US as it is today is mainly made up of immigrants that came over 50-100+ years ago right? The US is suppose to be a safe place for everyone including immigrants that want to come here legally I agree that there is a problem right now but unless you want to put machine guns on the border which won't happen and even if it did they have traveled hundreds of miles to get away from violence in their countries so I can see why they do it not that it is okay.
Except that our immigration policies today do not mirror those of 100 years ago?
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: RUSH1 on March 22, 2024, 08:40:19 PM
The border was not opened. The legislation to close it never existed. It had been closed under Title 42 by Executive Order under the auspices of a national health emergency.. specifically Covid. When the national health emergency ended, the Executive Order became mute. The nation is still a democracy (for a while yet anyway) and national policy is determined by the Congress not the White House.
So you're admitting that the border is not being enforced under Biden?
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Busher on March 22, 2024, 08:59:55 PM
So you're admitting that the border is not being enforced under Biden?
I have no idea what you are trying to get me to say. You want the President to universally put a national policy into effect when no legislation exists permitting him to do so? That sounds a lot like a dictatorship and I will never support that - even on day 1.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Brooke on March 22, 2024, 09:04:12 PM
Extremely right wing is the only way that matters to them and everyone that lives differently is an enemy and needs to be eliminated. Is basically what I gather from their cult.
Both sides think that of each other.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: hazmatt on March 22, 2024, 09:22:25 PM
I have no idea what you are trying to get me to say. You want the President to universally put a national policy into effect when no legislation exists permitting him to do so? That sounds a lot like a dictatorship and I will never support that - even on day 1.
Article 4 Section 4 "The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a republican form of government, and shall protect each of them against invasion, and on application of the legislature, or of the executive (when the legislature cannot be convened), against domestic violence."
Article II, Section 3, ... he (the president) shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed,
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Brooke on March 22, 2024, 09:30:45 PM
There was an immigration bill on the house floor roughly 10 days ago - it failed. . . .
The US (as do most countries) already has the power, ability, right, and laws to control its own borders. It isn't enforcing those laws or using that power, ability, or right. Also, it has put in place incentives that encourage people to illegally cross the border.
So, the immigration bill you talk about first isn't necessary to enforce the border. But also it had LOTS of OTHER stuff in it. That's what happens with bills. It might have something good in it -- plus 10 lbs of poison. You vote against it. Partisans and the naive then point tremulous fingers at you: "You voted against the good thing!!!!!!"
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Busher on March 22, 2024, 09:55:45 PM
Article 4 Section 4 "The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a republican form of government, and shall protect each of them against invasion, and on application of the legislature, or of the executive (when the legislature cannot be convened), against domestic violence."
Article II, Section 3, ... he (the president) shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed,
Invasion? Really? I might agree if you concede to an insurrection.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Busher on March 22, 2024, 10:02:27 PM
The US (as do most countries) already has the power, ability, right, and laws to control its own borders. It isn't enforcing those laws or using that power, ability, or right. Also, it has put in place incentives that encourage people to illegally cross the border.
So, the immigration bill you talk about first isn't necessary to enforce the border. But also it had LOTS of OTHER stuff in it. That's what happens with bills. It might have something good in it -- plus 10 lbs of poison. You vote against it. Partisans and the naive then point tremulous fingers at you: "You voted against the good thing!!!!!!"
I will never suggest that the southern border is not a MAJOR problem and it needs an effective solution. I am just tired of it being a political football for candidates to yell about. The solution is an easy fix for Congress (if they get off the pot and ack like adults). The debates between the boss candidates needs to be about the future and not about one solvable issue.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: RUSH1 on March 22, 2024, 10:03:31 PM
I have no idea what you are trying to get me to say. You want the President to universally put a national policy into effect when no legislation exists permitting him to do so? That sounds a lot like a dictatorship and I will never support that - even on day 1.
LOL. So upholding existing law equates to a dictatorship.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: RUSH1 on March 22, 2024, 10:06:35 PM
I will never suggest that the southern border is not a MAJOR problem and it needs an effective solution. I am just tired of it being a political football for candidates to yell about. The solution is an easy fix for Congress (if they get off the pot and ack like adults). The debates between the boss candidates needs to be about the future and not about one solvable issue.
Unfortunately, Congress and politicians are no longer about solving issues. At the end of the day it's something each person/party can campaign on. So kick the can until the next election cycle, run on it, then continue to do nothing about it.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: RUSH1 on March 22, 2024, 10:10:37 PM
I will never suggest that the southern border is not a MAJOR problem and it needs an effective solution. I am just tired of it being a political football for candidates to yell about. The solution is an easy fix for Congress (if they get off the pot and ack like adults). The debates between the boss candidates needs to be about the future and not about one solvable issue.
Or stop blaming Congress, grow a pair, and admit that your side facilitated this mess.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: RUSH1 on March 22, 2024, 10:15:25 PM
Unfortunately, Congress and politicians are no longer about solving issues. At the end of the day it's something each person/party can campaign on. So kick the can until the next election cycle, run on it, then continue to do nothing about it.
So the Republicans haven't made this a front and center issue for the last 8 years? I'm not sure how you're drawing a comparison between the two parties on this issue.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Spikes on March 22, 2024, 10:19:26 PM
So the Republicans haven't made this a front and center issue for the last 8 years? I'm not sure how you're drawing a comparison between the two parties on this issue.
Why didn't the Republicans get things done when they had the President, Senate, and House for 2 years?
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: RUSH1 on March 22, 2024, 10:32:54 PM
Nm
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Busher on March 22, 2024, 10:41:12 PM
LOL. So upholding existing law equates to a dictatorship.
Getting very tired of this debate but for the sake of trying to maintain some level of civility, why don't you quote to me the federal statute that allows any person, organization, committee etc. to close the border. Would that be all borders?? Or just the border with Mexico? How about vacationers flying in from Mexico? No international flights land? No passenger ships? No freighters?
No matter what is claimed, POTUS does not make law (yet- God help us if the people ever decide he can).
But I'm tired and going to bed. Goodnight.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: RUSH1 on March 22, 2024, 10:44:38 PM
Why didn't the Republicans get things done when they had the President, Senate, and House for 2 years?
Like what? Trump being elected by running on the border? Starting the wall under constant democrat obstruction? Keeping the crossings numbers at a fraction of what they've been since the democrats took over the WH? As I stated, there's no comparison between the two parties on this issue.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: RUSH1 on March 22, 2024, 10:49:32 PM
Getting very tired of this debate but for the sake of trying to maintain some level of civility, why don't you quote to me the federal statute that allows any person, organization, committee etc. to close the border. Would that be all borders?? Or just the border with Mexico? How about vacationers flying in from Mexico? No international flights land? No passenger ships? No freighters?
No matter what is claimed, POTUS does not make law (yet- God help us if the people ever decide he can).
But I'm tired and going to bed. Goodnight.
"Getting very tired of this debate but for the sake of trying to maintain some level of civility, why don't you" ...
acknowledge that we're (POTUS is) not enforcing existing law at our southern border?
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: hazmatt on March 22, 2024, 11:16:55 PM
What about that there party of smaller government and less spending who just had 130 of their members vote for an almost 1.5 dollar spending bill of money that we don't have, that will cause more inflation, maybe hyperinflation, and could possibly bankrupt the country.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Tumor on March 23, 2024, 02:38:06 AM
"Getting very tired of this debate but for the sake of trying to maintain some level of civility, why don't you" ...
acknowledge that we're (POTUS is) not enforcing existing law at our southern border?
Not polluting the obvious with Political nonsense would be unbecoming in the world today.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: AKIron on March 23, 2024, 08:04:16 AM
There would not be a crisis at the border today, according to the current admin, if Texas had not started bussing those entering the country illegally to the sanctuary cities. Those cities got a small taste and started wailing and gnashing their teeth. If the border were sealed tight today there would still be busses rolling for a long time.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Eagler on March 23, 2024, 08:07:19 AM
Well security has become political so this will be locked..
Bye bye America, glad I am 65 years into this one..the toejamshow has only just begun
Eagler
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Meatwad on March 23, 2024, 08:54:29 AM
Article 4 Section 4 "The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a republican form of government, and shall protect each of them against invasion, and on application of the legislature, or of the executive (when the legislature cannot be convened), against domestic violence."
Article II, Section 3, ... he (the president) shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed,
Its clear this was ignored when cities were being burnt to the ground in "peaceful protests"
And you would know if a real insurrection happened. The capital building visit was no such thing. By the standards in use today, that was nothing more then a peaceful protest. But double standards are employed so only one side can claim peaceful protests, while the other side the exact same thing is called an insurrection.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Eagler on March 23, 2024, 09:24:25 AM
https://youtu.be/LGJvUYOjWy0?si=eZDKWsuzt0gPF3d5
Just the beginning of the latest increase of serious crimes
Glad the southern states still have some common sense that the northern and western states seem to have lost..
:cheers:
Eagler
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Maverick on March 23, 2024, 10:12:45 AM
So it's a good idea to do nothing until after Jan 20, 2025. Now I understand! :rolleyes:
The current president has had the authority to close the border all along. He knows it because his 2 predecessors already used it in their terms including when president dementia was the VP. He does not need an additional law to close the border. Making a bad law legalizing illegal aliens is the silly option he wants. Pity you can't see past the title of the stupidity he wants made into law.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Eagler on March 23, 2024, 10:28:50 AM
Like they are trying to bring about the downfall of the nation purposely
Eagler
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: AKIron on March 23, 2024, 10:55:20 AM
How can they pass a background check?
There are some states which do not require this approval when a gun is sold by an individual: https://www.atf.gov/firearms/docs/4473-part-1-firearms-transaction-record-over-counter-atf-form-53009/download
But some are pressing to make this mandatory for all.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Meatwad on March 23, 2024, 11:11:49 AM
At the same time taking gun rights away from law abiding US citizens so they are not allowed to protect themselves from the illegals with the guns the same people allow them to have
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: guncrasher on March 23, 2024, 12:11:05 PM
At the same time taking gun rights away from law abiding US citizens so they are not allowed to protect themselves from the illegals with the guns the same people allow them to have
which law takes away our gun rights.
semp
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on March 23, 2024, 01:45:32 PM
There are 28,000 local, state, and federal firearms laws. All of them restrict the rights of law abiding citizens. Yet crime is every bit as rampant as it was in 1934 when the NFA violated the Constitution, and as rampant as it was when the GCA violated the Constitution, and as rampant as it was in 1986, and 1994. Restricting the rights of those who abide by the laws neither prevents crime nor protects those that obey the law. Never has. Never will. The brilliant men who founded the nation knew that.
Shall. Not Be. Infringed.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: guncrasher on March 23, 2024, 01:54:22 PM
There are 28,000 local, state, and federal firearms laws. All of them restrict the rights of law abiding citizens. Yet crime is every bit as rampant as it was in 1934 when the NFA violated the Constitution, and as rampant as it was when the GCA violated the Constitution, and as rampant as it was in 1986, and 1994. Restricting the rights of those who abide by the laws neither prevents crime nor protects those that obey the law. Never has. Never will. The brilliant men who founded the nation knew that.
Shall. Not Be. Infringed.
all you had to say is I don't know. give me specifics
semp
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: AKIron on March 23, 2024, 02:02:38 PM
all you had to say is I don't know. give me specifics
semp
Here's one of many, The Federal Assault Weapons Ban of 1994. The current admin is doing it's best to reenact that unconstitutional law.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: AKIron on March 23, 2024, 02:06:34 PM
The US Supreme Court has slapped down the gun grabbers a couple of times lately. Rather than apologize for infringing on our rights the gun grabbers denounce the US Supreme Court.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: guncrasher on March 23, 2024, 02:07:06 PM
Here's one of many, The Federal Assault Weapons Ban of 1994. The current admin is doing it's best to reenact that unconstitutional law.
wasn't that settled years ago?
semp
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Meatwad on March 23, 2024, 02:09:33 PM
The people that demand gun rights be taken away from law abiding citizens are the same people that believe that the government will come to their rescue when something bad happens. But when the toejam hits the fan and they are left helpless and defenseless, they will act all surprised and shocked when they are abandoned and blame others for what they specifically wanted to happen to begin with
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: JimmyD3 on March 23, 2024, 02:12:57 PM
Did you miss the part where I said this admin is trying to do it again? In cleat violation of the US Constitution.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: AKIron on March 23, 2024, 02:17:30 PM
500,000,000 guns owned by US civilians and and growing. These will not go gentle into that good night.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: hazmatt on March 23, 2024, 02:22:32 PM
I have an easy solution to keep guns out of the hands of criminals.
All congress has to do is pass a law that says criminals must follow the gun laws! I'm sure it will work at least as well as "gun free zones"
Everybody knows a violent felony in possession of a firearm that they acquired illegally and are committing a felony by possessing it will stop when they see a sign that says "this is a gun free zone"...
There really are special kinds of stupid :)
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Meatwad on March 23, 2024, 03:46:54 PM
Works as well as the justice reform laws where you tell the criminals that if you catch them after the 5th time they committed a crime that you might have to actually sit them down and tell them they were a naughty boy while scowling. And be sure to stop being bad otherwise after the 10th time you will have to slap them on the wrist (but not too hard because you will hurt their feelings)
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Brooke on March 23, 2024, 04:19:36 PM
Let's say courts won't prosecute thieves for stealing cars. And police don't arrest thieves for stealing cars. So you get a giant increase in car theft. (This, by the way, is the actual situation in Seattle, WA, where I used to live. I found out when my wife's car was stolen in Seattle, and the Seattle police informed us of this information.)
You do not need new laws to fix that. You need courts that will prosecute those criminal. You need police to arrest those criminals.
This is exactly the situation with illegal immigration.
Again: No new laws are necessary.
We already have them. But our country does not enforce those laws.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Eagler on March 23, 2024, 04:25:44 PM
And they continue to pile them in..
The twilight zone never got this strange
Eagler
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: hazmatt on March 23, 2024, 04:29:03 PM
Let's say courts won't prosecute thieves for stealing cars. And police don't arrest thieves for stealing cars. So you get a giant increase in car theft. (This, by the way, is the actual situation in Seattle, WA, where I used to live. I found out when my wife's car was stolen in Seattle, and the Seattle police informed us of this information.)
You do not need new laws to fix that. You need courts that will prosecute those criminal. You need police to arrest those criminals.
This is exactly the situation with illegal immigration.
Again: No new laws are necessary.
We already have them. But our country does not enforce those laws.
Agreed. The laws seem to apply to certain people at certain times and only in certain places. So much for the rule of law.
I was referring to the "assault weapons" comment that some people banning them will somehow keep criminals from committing gun crimes.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Eagler on March 23, 2024, 04:34:52 PM
They are flying in from around the world to enter illegally
I am sure they are all great ppl and we can afford trillion $$$ deficits :aok
Eagler
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Busher on March 23, 2024, 04:56:12 PM
Let's say courts won't prosecute thieves for stealing cars. And police don't arrest thieves for stealing cars. So you get a giant increase in car theft. (This, by the way, is the actual situation in Seattle, WA, where I used to live. I found out when my wife's car was stolen in Seattle, and the Seattle police informed us of this information.)
You do not need new laws to fix that. You need courts that will prosecute those criminal. You need police to arrest those criminals.
This is exactly the situation with illegal immigration.
Again: No new laws are necessary.
I don't believe that you are suggesting that everyone entering the country is a criminal. For a very long time the country and hopefully a majority of its citizens recognize there are legitimate people seeking asylum.
But that is not the point. I think we both agree that the southern border needs to be closed. One candidate claims that he can order the closure with the power of his voice. The other knows that no federal statute provides that power to his office and therefore asked the congress to pass legislation permitting appropriate action without resulting in unending court battles.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Meatwad on March 23, 2024, 05:31:02 PM
Close it with the military, and let it be known the deadly consequences of anyone caught illegally crossing it. Being polite doesnt work, time to take the berlin wall route
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Brooke on March 23, 2024, 05:39:21 PM
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Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Brooke on March 23, 2024, 05:40:46 PM
The solution IS an easy fix. Doesn't even need Congress.
And you might ask yourself, if it's easy to fix, but isn't fixed -- why is that?
The answer is that it is intentional. There are groups of people who want it for religious-like or ideology reasons, some for monetary reasons, some for political reasons.
Illegal immigration is funded by parts of the US and other governments. Such as: -- $ from the US (DHS, FEMA, etc.) -- To pro-migration NGO's (UN, HIAS, UNICEF, Catholic Charities USA, Jewish Families Council, Red Cross, International Organization of Migration, Doctors Without Borders, etc.) -- To migrants ($ in cash, vouchers, cash cards, food, info including maps showing where to go, where to get money, which border crossings to use to get into the US): https://www.muckraker.com/articles/illegal-alien-invasion-maps-exposed/ https://dcjournal.com/whos-funding-illegal-immigration-you-are/ https://www.c-span.org/video/?525602-1/after-words-todd-bensman
The motivations are many: -- There are people in governments and religions and NGO's who believe (with the fervor of a religious tenet) that open borders are morally correct: https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2015/10/get-rid-borders-completely/409501/ "And who were these immigration advocates?", p. 110, Overrun, by Todd Bensman. -- There are industries that benefit from cheap, controllable labor (as anyone knows who has had much landscaping or construction work done, or for picking crops, canning, production lines, etc), which is also why chambers of commerce are famously against immigration enforcement. https://youtu.be/Jtc7H23q-z4?t=5 -- There are groups making enormous money from it: "Smuggling Migrants at the Border is Now a Billion-Dollar Business" https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/25/us/migrant-smuggling-evolution.html -- There are nations (such as China) getting a lot of their folks in: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/chinese-migrants-fastest-growing-group-us-mexico-border-60-minutes-transcript/ -- There are political benefits. For example, California has 2-4 more electoral votes and 2-4 more House seats with illegal immigrants than it would have without them. https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/aug/06/facebook-posts/calif-has-extra-us-house-seats-because-illegals-no/ Immigrants are 2:1 democrat:republican in voting. https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2023-11-30/la-immigrant-dreams-politics-poll-latimes-kff
Here's how it all works: https://x.com/realmuckraker/status/1747334332421714056?s=20 https://www.c-span.org/video/?525602-1/after-words-todd-bensman https://a.co/d/h64pxNb
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: hazmatt on March 23, 2024, 05:42:48 PM
I don't believe that you are suggesting that everyone entering the country is a criminal.
If they broke the law and came across the border illegally that would make them a criminal last I checked. The very fist act they do entering the country is breaking the law but we expect they will all be productive members of society and follow other laws?
What about all the countries they passed though to get here? None of those are acceptable because they don't give them gift cards, snap benefits, free plane tickets and free housing?
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Brooke on March 23, 2024, 05:49:46 PM
I don't believe that you are suggesting that everyone entering the country is a criminal. For a very long time the country and hopefully a majority of its citizens recognize there are legitimate people seeking asylum.
Absolutely.
I feel that LEGAL immigration is a huge benefit to our country.
But to be a benefit, it requires selectivity. Letting in people who are compatible with our nation and its Constitution, value freedom, rule of law, limited government, etc.
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I think we both agree that the southern border needs to be closed.
I think the border (south, north, and otherwise) needs to be enforced. We already have what we need as a nation to do that.
Other than the will to do it, of course, especially at the level of federal agencies.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Brooke on March 23, 2024, 05:54:48 PM
For a very long time the country and hopefully a majority of its citizens recognize there are legitimate people seeking asylum.
By the way, in 2023 only 320 thousand border crossers were asylees, and the remaining 3.3 million were not.
Details:
In 2023, there were 3.6 million "encounters". "Encounters" are people crossing the border who are apprehended by US Border Patrol. If they aren't apprehended, it isn't counted as an "encounter". Thus, the number of people crossing into the US is likely substantially larger than that. https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/nationwide-encounters
In 2023, there were 800,000 asylum seekers. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/21/us/politics/migrant-crisis-border-asylum.html
In recent years, 40% of asylum applications are approved. So of those 800,000 asylum seekers, 320,000 are actual asylees. https://usafacts.org/articles/how-many-people-seek-asylum-in-the-us/
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: guncrasher on March 23, 2024, 05:57:51 PM
Close it with the military, and let it be known the deadly consequences of anyone caught illegally crossing it. Being polite doesnt work, time to take the berlin wall route
that would be considered murder. and people go to jail for that. you dont consider changing the constitution to allow that do you?
semp
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: RUSH1 on March 23, 2024, 06:00:06 PM
that would be considered murder. and people go to jail for that. you dont consider changing the constitution to allow that do you?
semp
Not necessarily. There is judgement and circumstances involved: https://www.cbp.gov/sites/default/files/assets/documents/2021-Jul/cbp-use-of-force-policy_4500-002A.pdf
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: guncrasher on March 23, 2024, 06:12:04 PM
Not necessarily. There is judgement and circumstances involved: https://www.cbp.gov/sites/default/files/assets/documents/2021-Jul/cbp-use-of-force-policy_4500-002A.pdf
when you start shooting every single person crossing the border it becomes murder.
semp
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: RUSH1 on March 23, 2024, 06:14:52 PM
Not necessarily. There is judgement and circumstances involved: https://www.cbp.gov/sites/default/files/assets/documents/2021-Jul/cbp-use-of-force-policy_4500-002A.pdf
Brooke; I always enjoy our discussions. I wish politicians could learn to discuss and debate as we often do.
But when the Wyatt's start talking about cleaning up the country's problems with violence and of course re-affirming their 2nd amendment rights, I'm outta here.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Meatwad on March 23, 2024, 06:36:33 PM
Brooke; I always enjoy our discussions. I wish politicians could learn to discuss and debate as we often do.
But when the Wyatt's start talking about cleaning up the country's problems with violence and of course re-affirming their 2nd amendment rights, I'm outta here.
Bye
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: hazmatt on March 23, 2024, 10:55:08 PM
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Animl-AW on March 23, 2024, 11:18:07 PM
Someone who complains about this, REFUSED to let someone shut down the border, so they can refuse to stop complaining about it.
Blame IS an oxymoron for personal and political gain. It was said directly to your face in public.
And that IS the reality, no matter what color one attempts to paint it.
Power of suggestion does not function in reality.
One cannot complain if they intensionally exasperate the problem so they can complain about it.
Don’t want yo hear about the trouble your side are of the fence implemented for political gain.
They care nothing about human life, except their own.
When one cuts iff the head if a snake, and its still trashing and rolling, its not because its still alive, but because it’s dying.
They brought it in themselves.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Eagler on March 24, 2024, 07:49:52 AM
What's odd is the news organizations can't even call them illegal immigrants without acting like it is an insult to the criminals...only one has any consistency in even reporting on the growing issue..
Eagler
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: AKIron on March 24, 2024, 08:25:42 AM
This admin has fought Texas every step of the way. Where's the fighting against NYC trying block all the busses from Texas?
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Eagler on March 24, 2024, 08:55:08 AM
Could not call them illegal immigrants in this news story...amazing
Eagler
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Eagler on March 24, 2024, 10:20:00 AM
3 years late but better late than never
Eagler
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: GasTeddy on March 24, 2024, 01:53:54 PM
And this is just country in Europe. Many others have similar or even worse cases, but mainstream media keeps very low profile in publishing them. As they are mostly run by... Well, let's not go too much to politics, but you can guess.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Meatwad on March 24, 2024, 07:42:29 PM
M224's issued to border patrol
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Eagler on March 25, 2024, 08:49:46 AM
Someone is informing these illegal immigrants that most in Florida carry as permits are not required right?
Eagler
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Shuffler on March 25, 2024, 10:47:32 AM
Protect our borders and hang those committing treason. Protect Americans and those here legally.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: captain1ma on March 25, 2024, 10:57:11 AM
Protect our borders and hang those committing treason. Protect Americans and those here legally.
:aok
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: AKIron on March 25, 2024, 11:20:23 AM
I think there are two reasons the current admin has been fighting Texas trying to secure its border. The primary is of course that this admin does not want the border secured. The less obvious reason I think is that with locally enforceable laws in Texas those who do cross will be more willing to take those free bus rides to the various sanctuary cities around the country.
Busses should be lined up at the various hot spots where billboards loudly proclaim: Get arrested or hop on this bus to NYC where all your needs will be met free of charge.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Eagler on March 25, 2024, 02:10:13 PM
Don't be surprised when the next "terror" attack happens as it's just a matter of time...
Only question is who will get the blame, how many men and women will be killed or maimed and how long we will keep the war chugging along until we retreat again...
I think we can beat the > 20 year Afghanistan record if the boogeyman attack is horrific enough..
Eagler
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Eagler on March 25, 2024, 02:12:07 PM
Bye bye America
Eagler
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Meatwad on March 25, 2024, 06:02:13 PM
Shame there wasn't a Native American with a bow and arrow when your ancestors came to this land.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Meatwad on March 26, 2024, 06:48:17 AM
Uh oh someone got their feelings hurt over protecting the illegal criminal invaders. And I could care less what happened many years ago with the indians since you cant change (or cancel out using your cancel culture) history
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Eagler on March 26, 2024, 08:16:02 AM
I am a little out of date my weapon was a M14 with a nice wood stock you could use as a club when out of ammo. Can the M224 fire CS grenades or tear gas?
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Animl-AW on March 26, 2024, 08:48:13 AM
NM. Mpeople who ate delusional are the last ones to know it.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Tracerfi on March 26, 2024, 08:55:39 AM
Mso, debunking BS means one protects illegals? Just because someone post delusional nonsense and avoids reality at all cost, intentionally misreading readers to rally hate support, calling them out means they support illegals? Now thats a small mind that needs some tending to.
I’m part Native American, some in my family circle are more so. FACT IS your existence here us based on, in your terms, invaders. The European caused more harm to the natives here than any southern border illegals. Do you say the same about legals? Is it all immigrants? Ot us it that they are brown?
If one clings to conspiracies, one volunteers to look the fool.
Right now, your tribe is keeping it wide open for political talking points. And if they are as bad as you say, THEY put the country at risk doing so. For one single powder puff dweeb. And you rally behind that oxymoron?
Fact is they did not steal our lands, did not break treaties for genocide, didn’t kill and rape massive numbers of woman and children. Didn’t put them in reservations after taking everything they owned. Didn’t lynch, rape, hold down their freed slaves. Aren’t committing mass shootings every single day now x2.
People who talk the loudest, have the most to hide and know very little if reality.
The white male has no room to talk, at all. Do as I say, not as I do.
Right now, your tribe outs everyone at risk for your own misplaced imagination and holding the border open, against the person you blame to say they are failing to clise the border for a political talking point of a cult leader.
Is there no clue at all how petty and delusional one looks?
It would be a cake walk and joy to have people of these words as a defendant in a court room.
I wonder what you would do if your family was starving, being murdered, and walk 100s of miles to escape it. Would you just sit, fold your hands and take it? I assume you wouldn’t have the same guts to do the same walk. Americans are marshmallows.
But hey, so concerned about violence that every fool should have a gun and mass killings by cowards with guns are ok. Because hey, protecting guns id more important it doesn’t matter how many are killed by whackos with guns. But damn those immigrants might do what we did
Lost in space is candy coating. Fools have the biggest mouths.
Fact is, no one supports illegals. But your tribe is ok with the white man killing anyone they want, as long as its done with a gun.
Damn, my IQ just dropped 60 pnts in an attempt to understand oxymorons. So self-righteous.
Ya eat your own feet.
100000% Agreed
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Eagler on March 26, 2024, 09:03:10 AM
Animal did that put you into the negatives? LOL
Yes let's make this security threat today about how we treated American Indians 100's of years ago...lol
You guys are part of the problem not a solution..
Eagler
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: AKIron on March 26, 2024, 09:07:58 AM
Do I owe anyone a free home, food, medical care, education? Cut off the taxpayer funded free money to all those here illegally and many will go home.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: AKIron on March 26, 2024, 09:10:48 AM
Let's talk about the blatant hypocrisy of the sanctuary cities crying uncle right now. They are largely responsible for the current situation. How can they show their faces?
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Animl-AW on March 26, 2024, 09:14:52 AM
Do I owe anyone a free home, food, medical care, education? Cut off the taxpayer funded free money to all those here illegally and many will go home.
Lets not conflate illegal with legals.
Evidently, you like giving your tax money to the rich.
As the bible states in 100s of verses,… help the poor up. My tax money will help you when you’re poor.
Sometimes life requires to think more than 5 minutes ahead.
But don’t pee on my leg snd claim its raining.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: AKIron on March 26, 2024, 09:23:34 AM
I give to charities and pay taxes. I do not owe those who trample our borders illegally anything. Let those who invited them here pay their room and board. Don't worry, Texas will help them do that.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: AKIron on March 26, 2024, 09:27:12 AM
If you're near Chicago, maybe Gary IN, plenty will be coming your way for years to come. Feel free to share what you have with them. Whether you want to or not.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Eagler on March 26, 2024, 09:37:00 AM
They form their own communities and don't need to learn English...
As they break the law to get here, they will pick and choose what laws to obey here now..
At least we have landscaping, hospitality and roofing covered for decades to come..
How many sleeper cells have been created in the last 3 years..hope we don't find out any time soon...
Eagler
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Animl-AW on March 26, 2024, 09:43:59 AM
Let's talk about the blatant hypocrisy of the sanctuary cities crying uncle right now. They are largely responsible for the current situation. How can they show their faces?
No, I’m not jumping in the merry-go-round of changing ficus to cover up a lost issue and hypocrisy. That’s a circle jerk of denial.
The Bible is always waved the most by people who violate every core aspect of it. See the bible, not my sins. See my flag, not my actions.
The biggest fear of us whites have is the fear someone will do what we did, thats how we know its possible. Its called fear of karma.
Both world wars were of white europeans in genocide, genocide here by the same.
I’m a devils advocate. I view both sides of s coin while one sees one.
That tribe rallies the man who forced it to stay open. Beat down the one trying to close it. Then complain it being open is a problem.buts the purest definition of oxymoron and hypocrisy.
You complain about crime while you pass out guns to sick people. You claim pro-life, while you kick the baby to the curb on its first breath removing welfare. Complain about immigrants while you’re an ancestor of immigrants They want government in the bedroom as long as its not there’s. Freedom of speech while you ban books to hide your history. They hate criminals while they support one.
But whata bout Mr. Potatohead, Dr. Seuss, Big Bird, Mickey Mouse and Taylor Swift while your keaders crimes are in the spotlight.
Living in that circle thinking head must be a real challenge and unbalance.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Shuffler on March 26, 2024, 10:04:31 AM
Shame there wasn't a Native American with a bow and arrow when your ancestors came to this land.
Mine came legally. I am part Native American and there were people here before that. We are now a land of laws. Live or die with it.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Animl-AW on March 26, 2024, 10:06:46 AM
It has never been written better then this.
Desiderata
Go placidly amid the noise and haste, and remember what peace there may be in silence. As far as possible without surrender be on good terms with all persons. Speak your truth quietly and clearly; and listen to others, even the dull and ignorant; they too have their story.
Avoid loud and aggressive persons, they are vexations to the spirit. If you compare yourself with others, you may become vain and bitter; for always there will be greater and lesser persons than yourself. Enjoy your achievements as well as your plans. Keep interested in your career, however humble; it is a real possession in the changing fortunes of time.
Exercise caution in your business affairs; for the world is full of trickery. But let this not blind you to what virtue there is; many persons strive for high ideals; and everywhere life is full of heroism. Be yourself. Especially, do not feign affection. Neither be critical about love; for in the face of all aridity and disenchantment it is as perennial as the grass. Take kindly the counsel of the years, gracefully surrendering the things of youth.
Nurture strength of spirit to shield you in sudden misfortune. But do not distress yourself with imaginings. Many fears are born of fatigue and loneliness. Beyond a wholesome discipline, be gentle with yourself. You are a child of the universe, no less than the trees and the stars; you have a right to be here. And whether or not it is clear to you, no doubt the universe is unfolding as it should.
Therefore be at peace with God, whatever you conceive Him to be, and whatever your labors and aspirations, in the noisy confusion of life keep peace with your soul. With all its sham, drudgery and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be cheerful. Strive to be happy.
Max Ehrmann, a poet and lawyer from Terre Haute, Indiana, wrote Desiderata in 1927.
Now, there are some that choose a different path, Life has not had it's way with them, YET. Therefore, ONE of my favorite pets is my original 1985 Colt Python .357 Mag w/6" barrel. Never underestimate a man who lives logic and realism, you'll hand him a win on a red felt pillow.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Eagler on March 26, 2024, 10:13:07 AM
Very nice animal..
So how many are bunking with you sir may we ask?
Do you have all those that don't have this countries best interests at heart under your watch too?
Or is whatever happens we deserve it for stealing the land from the Indians couple of 100 years ago..??!
There are ways to help the poor without supporting record illegal immigration
Eagler
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: AKIron on March 26, 2024, 10:26:44 AM
Race has nothing to do with protecting our borders animl. Protecting our borders ensures our way of life as we the people have established. What nation on this planet does not protect its borders besides us? What nation has not established its own values and consequently laws to help uphold those values? The self-declared sanctuary cities are proving right now that they are talk and no action. They are screaming stop and some are making unconstitutional laws to stop those illegal migrants from coming to their cities. There's only one word for that, hypocrite.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: AKIron on March 26, 2024, 10:31:32 AM
Anyone who owns a business, home, or property is perfectly free to donate it to their local Indian reservation. If you aren't willing to do that then shut up about justice for sins of others long past.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Eagler on March 26, 2024, 10:46:27 AM
I have relatives that receive 1000's of $$$ from the government today because some relatives that no one knows or ever met but was an American Indian supposedly back in the day...
That's bs too imo
Eagler
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Firetech on March 26, 2024, 01:22:36 PM
Jesus, what a bunch a squeakes you've become - endless hand wringing, shaking, pissing in your depends old women.. Disgusting what you've let your media turn you into. shreckless wimps afraid of everything see.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: AKIron on March 26, 2024, 01:41:16 PM
I like hearing NYC, Chicago, Denver, etc squeal. They've seen only the beginning.
A few more million each and they'll begging to help Texas secure the border.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Eagler on March 26, 2024, 02:49:12 PM
Jesus, what a bunch a squeakes you've become - endless hand wringing, shaking, pissing in your depends old women.. Disgusting what you've let your media turn you into. shreckless wimps afraid of everything see.
Just pointing out the security issues with ongoing policies..and the possible outcomes going forward
Sorry if you're upset with the discussion
You another illegal immigration enabler?
If you are not against it you must be for it..simple really
We have enough crime with our locals...we don't need to import illegal immigrant crimes too
Eagler
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: hazmatt on March 26, 2024, 05:01:19 PM
You know the BBS got a whole lot less annoying after I started ignoring animl. You should give it a try :)
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Tumor on March 26, 2024, 05:38:56 PM
I like hearing NYC, Chicago, Denver, etc squeal. They've seen only the beginning.
This.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Meatwad on March 26, 2024, 05:52:57 PM
Some of the states that have laws that protect squatters (trespassers on private property) from being evicted from the vacant homes they illegally broke into and living there illegally, they are telling these people to just break into vacant homes because they will be protected from the long very expensive lengthy process to get them off the property by the owner.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: AKIron on March 26, 2024, 06:16:58 PM
"Tax the rich. Feed the poor. 'Til there are no rich no more."
Then what?
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Tumor on March 26, 2024, 08:24:12 PM
Race has nothing to do with protecting our borders animl. Protecting our borders ensures our way of life as we the people have established. What nation on this planet does not protect its borders besides us? What nation has not established its own values and consequently laws to help uphold those values? The self-declared sanctuary cities are proving right now that they are talk and no action. They are screaming stop and some are making unconstitutional laws to stop those illegal migrants from coming to their cities. There's only one word for that, hypocrite.
It IS race to some people. Stop thinking in blanket answers. More than one thing can be true. It's not that I disagree with protecting borders. What you should be asking is why the party on the right refuses to let the current president shut them down. Puts us all at risk for political games. Good thing that fence Mexico didn't pay for stopped this big mess. <eye roll>
Why are you guys not complaining about the rep house voting down the biggest immigration spending bill in history to endanger us all? why does this not upset you? Selective anger, daily misguided anger? If you authentically care about the border, that would make you mad,.. instead, you blame the one who wants them shut down. That is an oxymoron. if you don't care the house left it wide open, spare me your fake concern. <shrug> life is that easy.
I spelled out hypocrite quite clearly, I lacked in explaining projection.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Animl-AW on March 26, 2024, 09:28:48 PM
"Tax the rich. Feed the poor. 'Til there are no rich no more."
Then what?
Not everything in life is extreme. I know that extreme has been normalized in your tribe. It's ok to find middle ground. Some want to help some, some want to help themselves only. Kinda sad. That tribe is black and white only. The skill of reading between the lines is a virtue.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: GasTeddy on March 27, 2024, 03:35:34 AM
There are other ways to help those in need than drag them to another country. Especially, if there's no war or big natural disaster in their place.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Eagler on March 27, 2024, 08:53:45 AM
When the states realize there is an ongoing invasion happening now and the federal government encourages it..
Why/how is the federal government ok with this obviousand growing daily security breach?
Makes one wonder who the real enemy of the people truly are..
Eagler
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: GasTeddy on March 27, 2024, 09:25:08 AM
In Finland, Russia was using "refugees" as hybrids to press and harass Finland, so the government closed the border. Even most of leftists this time agreed, but some are still whining about international contracts and agreements, human rights, families in distress (98% young men...) etc.
There is also an attempt by leftists to topple the elected right wing government by political general strikes. Third week now going on and just read from news, they will continue till at least 7th of April. In other Nordic countries, there are laws which restrict political strikes from few hours to max 1-2 days, not in Finland. Not yet... Those trade union bosses are concerned about there political influence getting weaker and also because of really hefty net income. And at same time playing directly to the favor of Putin.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Eagler on March 27, 2024, 09:39:30 AM
Yes same odd behavior globally diluting the local population with record government assisted illegal immigration..
Why? What's the end goal?
Security or lack of it doesn't have a side ..it affects both
Eagler
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Shuffler on March 27, 2024, 09:59:41 AM
People were here before the indians..... what about them?
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: JimmyD3 on March 27, 2024, 10:03:37 AM
This admin. has done NOTHING to control or close the border. :furious
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: AKIron on March 27, 2024, 10:43:55 AM
Less than nothing. It has sued Texas to stop the states attempts to prevent the incursion. If Abbott hadn't started the busses rolling to the various sanctuary cities this admin would still be proclaiming there is no crisis.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: DmonSlyr on March 27, 2024, 10:46:39 AM
So go ask any border agent which admin did a better job. 9/10 will say 45. The remain in Mexico policy was a huge one. What we are seeing now is a coordinated effort by Soros organizations and NGOs to get massive caravans together to run to the border. Who is feeding these people? Where are they getting close? Who is funding them to pay off Cartels?
This all would have been solved if they just let him build the border wall for very cheap.
Now during an election year, it's blame the Republicans because they don't want make 20m people citizens for free.
You never saw people crossing the border thanking 45...
You never saw schools in New York being taken over for these people.
What This admin has done is make gangs much bigger by allowing this and removing the stay in Mexico policy.
Anyone who wants 4 more years of this is insane. Because we all know they aren't going to do anything and actually want this to happen.
I think its crazy to think conservatives are the extreme party here. I mean we weren't even talking about "trans youth" 10 years ago. Now its a conversation in every new media. It's all about shifting the Overton window inch by inch until depravity is a normal thing.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Eagler on March 27, 2024, 10:51:03 AM
People were here before the indians..... what about them?
Indians are required to pay them restitution out the restitution we give them through our tax dollars..for what happened 100's of years ago..ridiculous
Eagler
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Meatwad on March 27, 2024, 11:09:18 AM
So go ask any border agent which admin did a better job. 9/10 will say 45. The remain in Mexico policy was a huge one. What we are seeing now is a coordinated effort by Soros organizations and NGOs to get massive caravans together to run to the border. Who is feeding these people? Where are they getting close? Who is funding them to pay off Cartels?
This all would have been solved if they just let him build the border wall for very cheap.
Now during an election year, it's blame the Republicans because they don't want make 20m people citizens for free.
You never saw people crossing the border thanking 45...
You never saw schools in New York being taken over for these people.
What This admin has done is make gangs much bigger by allowing this and removing the stay in Mexico policy.
Anyone who wants 4 more years of this is insane. Because we all know they aren't going to do anything and actually want this to happen.
I think its crazy to think conservatives are the extreme party here. I mean we weren't even talking about "trans youth" 10 years ago. Now its a conversation in every new media. It's all about shifting the Overton window inch by inch until depravity is a normal thing.
By the time Dec 31st gets here, gonna see some crazy impossible stuff happen that will be "not allowed to be spoken about or questioned". I suspect there will be a lot of magic happenings that will defy physics
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Meatwad on March 27, 2024, 11:13:09 AM
Indians are required to pay them restitution out the restitution we give them through our tax dollars..for what happened 100's of years ago..ridiculous
Eagler
I like the "your family ancestors had slave labor back in 1800 so now YOU owe me half a million dollars in reparations, and if "I" dont get it then "WE" will loot, arson, other acts of domestic terrorism until we get our free money"
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: DmonSlyr on March 27, 2024, 11:35:50 AM
I like the "your family ancestors had slave labor back in 1800 so now YOU owe me half a million dollars in reparations, and if "I" dont get it then "WE" will loot, arson, other acts of domestic terrorism until we get our free money"
They will make it legal to burn loot shoot and steal as well and illegal to fight back. They already did in California bascially.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: DmonSlyr on March 27, 2024, 11:36:50 AM
I just want gas back under 2.50 ffs.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Eagler on March 27, 2024, 12:05:08 PM
Good advice from this winner...another example where the so called laws favor the criminals
Eagler
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Chris79 on March 27, 2024, 12:10:19 PM
Procure a few murderers from the prison system, dress them like migrants, then noodle them.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: JimmyD3 on March 27, 2024, 01:53:26 PM
Procure a few murderers from the prison system, dress them like migrants, then noodle them.
lol Chris I have no idea what you said.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Eagler on March 27, 2024, 01:56:14 PM
I think he's saying how easy it is for a country to drop their criminally insane into our country...where we treat them as privileged law abiding citizens that they are not..way better than we treat our own poor and homeless..
Eagler
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Eagler on March 28, 2024, 06:30:51 AM
Sounds like they even have special status that prevents deportation after committing serious crimes..amazing
Eagler
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Maverick on March 28, 2024, 09:51:07 AM
There have been reports about some South American countries dumping criminals out of prison and sending them to the US to let us deal with them. Same damn thing Cuba did a few decades ago.
Now the Mexican President is blackmailing biden over the border. He understands a helpless target all too well.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Eagler on March 28, 2024, 10:10:50 AM
As they're flying unto Mexico from around the world we have no idea who is walking across our borders and we then treat like kings...
And somehow this is not illegal?
Not to enforce our most critical border is now somehow acceptable to many, some here even
Can the government be held responsible when the origins of the next terrorist attack is traced to this open border event?
Eagler
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Eagler on March 28, 2024, 12:34:35 PM
Evidently, you like giving your tax money to the rich.
As the bible states in 100s of verses,… help the poor up. My tax money will help you when you’re poor.
Sometimes life requires to think more than 5 minutes ahead.
But don’t pee on my leg snd claim its raining.
Absolutely nowhere in the Bible does it say that you are to pay taxes and have the government perform your charity. Nowhere. And no, "render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's" doesn't cover it, either. If you're going to follow the Bible, then understand that the Bible calls you to do your charity yourself, it is your responsibility, and you are not to abdicate that responsibility to the government. And no, Jesus Christ was neither a socialist, nor a pacifist.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on March 28, 2024, 01:16:56 PM
I don't believe that you are suggesting that everyone entering the country is a criminal. For a very long time the country and hopefully a majority of its citizens recognize there are legitimate people seeking asylum.
But that is not the point. I think we both agree that the southern border needs to be closed. One candidate claims that he can order the closure with the power of his voice. The other knows that no federal statute provides that power to his office and therefore asked the congress to pass legislation permitting appropriate action without resulting in unending court battles.
Requesting asylum and entering the country when it is granted is legal immigration.
Entering the country and then demanding asylum is illegal immigration.
That's the law. So, yes, EVERYONE entering the country without written permission to immigrate is ILLEGAL.
Further. One president legally closed the border and effected an immediate and drastic reduction in illegal entries. The following "president" issued in excess of NINETY executive orders in less than 90 days, effectively opening the border to massive illegal entry, totaling more than 9,000,000 illegal entries in three years. That same following "president" has flown 330,000 illegal aliens into the nation, bypassing the border, and used tax payer funds to do so. That same following "president" claims to require "congressional authority" to close the border. If congress has defined illegal entry, the executive branch requires no other authority, and is in fact bound by the Constitution to enforce the laws passed by the legislative branch.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on March 28, 2024, 01:28:12 PM
all you had to say is I don't know. give me specifics
semp
No, I don't have to say "I don't know", because I do know.
I gave you three specific examples of federal law. You chose to ignore them. I was not even remotely surprised.
Read the writings and correspondence of the various Founding Fathers, Washington, Franklin, Jefferson, Madison, and Adams, to name a select few, and you will understand easily that they meant the 2nd Amendment to be taken absolutely literally, and that private citizens were free to own military grade weapons, and without exceptions for type. Private citizens of the period owned artillery, warships, and every form of firearm deployed by any branch of the U.S. military of the period. And yes, there were various forms of self loading firearms capable of firing multiple rounds, and firing repeatedly. The authors of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights were fully cognizant of those facts, and intended the citizens own them. In fact, many of the Founding Fathers were diametrically opposed to the United States having a standing army, and the only reason they didn't oppose a standing Navy was that they knew that having to buy or build ships and train sailors would be impossible to do in a timely fashion should the need arise. They fully expected the citizens to form the military, with firearms the citizens owned and provided.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: hazmatt on March 28, 2024, 01:34:05 PM
I say that instead of shipping them to sanctuary cities that we need to start dropping them off at the houses of people who support this...
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on March 28, 2024, 02:06:57 PM
Just pointing out the security issues with ongoing policies..and the possible outcomes going forward
Sorry if you're upset with the discussion
You another illegal immigration enabler?
If you are not against it you must be for it..simple really
We have enough crime with our locals...we don't need to import illegal immigrant crimes too
Eagler
Typical parrot, If someone doesn't agree they must be against..
The "invasion" is only happening because we don't have enough "patriots" doing their part down there so jump in your pavement princess truck and drive your bellybutton down to the border and stand guard. Get enough of you gravy seals standing guard and America is saved!
At least until your media tells you the next thing to clutch pearls about.
Brave enough to post you tube crap all day long but unwilling to go do something about it.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: AKIron on March 28, 2024, 04:21:42 PM
The invasion is happening because Democrats want it to happen and they are in a position to make it happen. It really is that simple.
Texas is defying this admin but Texas is not the entire border.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Eagler on March 28, 2024, 05:03:37 PM
Firetech..ain't my job at 65
We have laws and young folks to keep the peace for us old farts
If you aren't for it why your post against mine?
Eagler
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: AKIron on March 28, 2024, 05:13:15 PM
It's easier to criticize someone else's position than to defend your own.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: RUSH1 on March 28, 2024, 09:48:09 PM
Typical parrot, If someone doesn't agree they must be against..
The "invasion" is only happening because we don't have enough "patriots" doing their part down there so jump in your pavement princess truck and drive your bellybutton down to the border and stand guard. Get enough of you gravy seals standing guard and America is saved!
At least until your media tells you the next thing to clutch pearls about.
Brave enough to post you tube crap all day long but unwilling to go do something about it.
WTH?
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Eagler on March 29, 2024, 08:33:56 AM
It's just the beginning...this new crime wave will be with us from here on out...no one is going to round up the millions of illegal immigrants and take them back where they came from...they are here for good
Eagler
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: icepac on March 29, 2024, 08:34:26 AM
I pitched a game/sim in which the player pays for time on a paintball turret on the border fence but it just got me on a no fly list.
I’m sure it’s filed in my dossier right next to my “bag a pirate cruise” where the shotguns for shooting skeet off the fantail are replaced with proper rifles. Bag a pirate and get a free trip.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Eagler on March 29, 2024, 10:43:07 AM
Britain is off its rocker just as bad as we are..maybe even worse as they didn't have the diversity to start with that we do..
Just as bad as us protecting the criminals over law abiding citizens..
Eagler
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: AKIron on March 29, 2024, 11:03:08 AM
Unlike the Brits, we can carry. More will.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Animl-AW on March 29, 2024, 11:18:08 AM
The invasion is happening because Democrats want it to happen and they are in a position to make it happen. It really is that simple.
Texas is defying this admin but Texas is not the entire border.
You willingly ignored and totally failed in reality. The maga Republican party who refuse to pass the biggest immigration bill in history, refusing to allow dems to shut it down, for orange jesus can talk about failure while putting us all at risk you claim to fear in doing so. Its wide open because of his demands broadcasted on tv many times. You KNOW they said it. You coddle denial.
Its wide open right now because of Magas. Totally and completely. The very second they voted that bill down they absorb all responsibility for everything that follows.
Projection. Orange Jesus, you placed on a pedestal and replaced the real Jesus, needs it to happen. You want to blame someone?, find a mirror. You made him the new god and he demanded Rep house do nothing.
Thats how simple realism is. You’re not connected to it. <shrug> a fool can’t stop proving it.
Youtube videos are propaganda.
Crime is 20% lower than the last FORMER president.
The border is open because of maga republicans.
FACT.
Hurry, look away so reality doesn’t touch you.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Eagler on March 29, 2024, 11:28:45 AM
Security becomes political because of hatred for the other side...
Amazing, we lose without even an actual battle
I am not for either side as each is as corrupt and as full of it as the other
Country is toast folks, we are just the best turd in the toilet at the moment..
Don't choke on the kool-aid animal
Eagler
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: TyFoo on March 29, 2024, 11:40:29 AM
Country is toast folks, we are just the best turd in the toilet at the moment..
Eagler
Wow. . . . Maybe where you live. . . . .
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Animl-AW on March 29, 2024, 11:45:49 AM
Since you like videos, the voice of the Republican that wrote the bill republicans voted down. They voted down their own bill for Orange Jesus to campaign on the failure he demanded.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: AKIron on March 29, 2024, 11:51:20 AM
More coming to Chicago. Lots more. Enjoy.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: RUSH1 on March 29, 2024, 12:03:58 PM
Since you like videos, the voice of the Republican that wrote the bill republicans voted down. They voted down their own bill for Orange Jesus to campaign on the failure he demanded.
Still using a failed bill that guaranteed nothing as an excuse for why our border laws are not being enforced, I see. You do understand that the democrats already have the authority to secure the border, right?
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Eagler on March 29, 2024, 12:31:47 PM
Bringing up senile or orange or uniparty politics will get this thread about the lack of national security on our southern border locked..
..as some of you want obviously
Eagler
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Eagler on March 29, 2024, 12:36:47 PM
Twilight zone stuff
Eagler
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Eagler on March 29, 2024, 12:53:12 PM
2000 more..
Eagler
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: nopoop on March 29, 2024, 01:04:00 PM
Animi your MSNBC is showing.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Firetech on March 29, 2024, 03:43:51 PM
Bringing up senile or orange or uniparty politics hits to close to home and will get my useless thread about my fantasy of a lack of national security on our southern border locked..
..as some of you want obviously but I want to keep being scared and typing proudly about it. I've earned my right to complain about things that I have nothing to do with and I am unwilling to do so.
Eagler
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: GasTeddy on March 29, 2024, 04:55:43 PM
Statistics in Finland show 17 times more sexual crimes done by "refugee" immigrants. Per capita. And in general, almost 90% of those type of crimes are done by immigrants presenting 9% of population. Ans still, young leftist women are the most eager to collect more and more of them. Masochism?
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Eagler on March 29, 2024, 05:26:08 PM
Firetech they got your pal
Eagler
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: hazmatt on March 29, 2024, 05:50:28 PM
Not sure how this guy could be an "influencer" He looks like a petty crying criminal to me. Maybe his cellmate will think he's cute or maybe Animl-AW will take up his cause?
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: RUSH1 on March 29, 2024, 06:24:53 PM
Statistics in Finland show 17 times more sexual crimes done by "refugee" immigrants. Per capita. And in general, almost 90% of those type of crimes are done by immigrants presenting 9% of population. Ans still, young leftist women are the most eager to collect more and more of them. Masochism?
We have a lot of statistics here too that are ignored for gain by one side of the aisle. In our case their gain is votes.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: RUSH1 on March 29, 2024, 06:26:40 PM
We have a lot of statistics here too that are ignored for gain by one side of the aisle. In our case their gain is votes.
Not allowed to use statistics anymore because they are racist, they profile, and hurt feelings because the truth in who are actually committing the crimes and what demographics are the most violent are not to be spoken. Instead it is just "white man bad"
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Busher on March 29, 2024, 06:49:25 PM
Still using a failed bill that guaranteed nothing as an excuse for why our border laws are not being enforced, I see. You do understand that the democrats already have the authority to secure the border, right?
Now I am impressed - you had the privilege to read Federal Legislation and all by yourself determined it to be ineffective.
No? Oh I see, it's easier just to parrot everything the Count of mostly Crisco tells you to say.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: RUSH1 on March 29, 2024, 06:56:07 PM
Not sure how this guy could be an "influencer" He looks like a petty crying criminal to me. Maybe his cellmate will think he's cute or maybe Animl-AW will take up his cause?
Animal never defined "white male" in his rant a couple of days ago. He has to know that Spain represents Europe and they were also evil colonizers, right?
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: RUSH1 on March 29, 2024, 07:00:52 PM
OK fair enough Mr. Lawyer. Look it up and quote for me the existing law that permits closure of the southern border.
I think this that I posted earlier shows that the Constitution pretty much covers it.
Article 4 Section 4 "The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a republican form of government, and shall protect each of them against invasion, and on application of the legislature, or of the executive (when the legislature cannot be convened), against domestic violence."
Article 2, Section 3, ... he (the president) shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed,
The federal government has the duty to protect the states from invasion (that is the law) and the president is charged with executing these laws.(that's the law)
Not sure how it could be more cut and dry.
In addition to this there are immigration laws but I think the Constitution pretty much spells it out. Too bad the government stopped following the Constitution a long time ago.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: hazmatt on March 29, 2024, 11:34:53 PM
They don't teach reading the amount of people graduation that are illiterate is amazing. News papers and such are now written at something like a 5th grade level. They aren't teaching writing. I've seen some of these young ones that get confused by cursive writing They aren't teaching math. I've been in line paying a bill at a restaurant and I have seen people struggling to calculate 20% of a $30 dollar bill.
It seems what they're teaching now is either: you're oppressed or you're an oppressor. They need to teach that XY or XX determines your sex. Not what you dress up as.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Eagler on March 30, 2024, 06:37:55 AM
Again bringing up politics show how you are manipulated..they like to keep us divided as we are much easier to fool if we hate each other more than them..
This isn't a side issue it's a security issue for the nation that adversely affects all of us...Can't think of a single legit citizen helped by this record illegal criminal immigration..
Hey but keep bringing up your favorite senile or orange crook...this is much bigger than the latest turd in the white house..
Why are they now letting in record numbers of foreign criminals? This isn't normal folks..
Eagler
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: RUSH1 on March 30, 2024, 08:05:29 AM
I think this that I posted earlier shows that the Constitution pretty much covers it.
Article 4 Section 4 "The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a republican form of government, and shall protect each of them against invasion, and on application of the legislature, or of the executive (when the legislature cannot be convened), against domestic violence."
Article 2, Section 3, ... he (the president) shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed,
The federal government has the duty to protect the states from invasion (that is the law) and the president is charged with executing these laws.(that's the law)
Not sure how it could be more cut and dry.
In addition to this there are immigration laws but I think the Constitution pretty much spells it out. Too bad the government stopped following the Constitution a long time ago.
Exactly. The documentation he is asking for is the exact documentation Biden and the democrats refuse to acknowledge. Not only could the southern border be secured today, but it could also be argued that the current administration is in violation of law for opening it up in the first place. The legal argument against the administration would probably be over vetting/lack of documentation. If the infrastructure was not in place to legally process these migrants upon entry, they should not have been allowed in. Biden and the dems better hope that what many are predicting never happens ... a terrorist attack by an illegal(s) who came in through our southern border.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Eagler on March 30, 2024, 08:24:01 AM
It was a comedy before it was a documentary...
:cheers:
Eagler
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Eagler on March 30, 2024, 08:39:30 AM
The Chinese are our buddies right?
Eagler
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Lazerr on March 30, 2024, 09:12:14 AM
Actually, I cheated. I just compared Bidens border numbers to Trumps.
5th time Ya thrive on half-baked half-truths. Fools Gold by a known grifter.
Biden wants to close border Magas refuses to pass the bill. Executive order only go so far and not enough without congress.
Biden wants the border closed Magas won’t let him so they can talk about failure they incited.
Learn it, live it, love it
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: AKIron on March 30, 2024, 09:49:39 AM
This admin didn't even pretend to want the border secure until Sanctuary cities started wailing. He still doesn't but won't let this crisis go to waste.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: AKIron on March 30, 2024, 09:52:35 AM
This will eventually bite them, hard. Many of those crashing our gates will become hard working conservative voters. And they are largely religious. That ought to give the leftists pause. It won't because they are incapable of seeing beyond their immediate desires.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Eagler on March 30, 2024, 10:11:44 AM
This will eventually bite them, hard. Many of those crashing our gates will become hard working conservative voters. And they are largely religious. That ought to give the leftists pause. It won't because they are incapable of seeing beyond their immediate desires.
Wouldn't count on it ..they are experiencing our gov tit livelihood from the start...not to mention breaking the law and being rewarded for it..
They will be talked out of their religious beliefs as many have been here as they aren't needed as big brother will take care of everything...it takes a village not a church..right?
It isn't the few coming here to try to have a better life you need to worry with, it's the what look like majority of young alone men of various nationalities ..many already causing crime from rape to organized gang crimes including human trafficking..
But hey this can't be stopped right? Bs!
Eagler
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Animl-AW on March 30, 2024, 10:37:14 AM
This admin didn't even pretend to want the border secure until Sanctuary cities started wailing. He still doesn't but won't let this crisis go to waste.
Irrelevant to the fact. I’m not disagreeing mistakes were made, my video explains it clearly. Had Trump made mistakes he just denies they happened. Like the 50 miles of a 1200 mile wall that mexico didn’t pay for and solved zero as warned.
Don’t mistake an independent centrist because they deal with facts that don’t fit propaganda. I defend no one, only truth/facts.
We got Obama twice because of GWB lies for wars. We only got Biden because of Trump. Biden is not the best, he’s better than a fascist lying criminal joke of life. We have Biden because of one term Trump. The country could not take one more minute if chaos every single damn day. Thats where all the hate started with Tea Party the fake patriots., punishing the country for Obama with Trump. Totally off the rails into fascism. They want the worst human to keep punishing the country for Obama. They live that Trump is a train wreck. ANYTHING to own the libs, no matter how it destroys the constitution and country. Fake patriots. Fake truths, pure fascist propaganda. Yas did it to yourselves with endless delusional BS and lies.
I have morals, I will never vote for that puddle of vomit, ever.
My family has been here since 1732, before it was USA, we didn’t fight in every major war fir this sht.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: RUSH1 on March 30, 2024, 11:01:35 AM
Irrelevant to the fact. I’m not disagreeing mistakes were made, my video explains it clearly. Had Trump made mistakes he just denies they happened. Like the 50 miles of a 1200 mile wall that mexico didn’t pay for and solved zero as warned.
Don’t mistake an independent centrist because they deal with facts that don’t fit propaganda. I defend no one, only truth/facts.
We got Obama twice because of GWB lies for wars. We only got Biden because of Trump. Biden is not the best, he’s better than a fascist lying criminal joke of life. We have Biden because of one term Trump. The country could not take one more minute if chaos every single damn day. Thats where all the hate started with Tea Party the fake patriots., punishing the country for Obama with Trump. Totally off the rails into fascism. They want the worst human to keep punishing the country for Obama. They live that Trump is a train wreck. ANYTHING to own the libs, no matter how it destroys the constitution and country. Fake patriots. Fake truths, pure fascist propaganda. Yas did it to yourselves with endless delusional BS and lies.
I have morals, I will never vote for that puddle of vomit, ever.
My family has been here since 1732, before it was USA, we didn’t fight in every major war fir this sht.
Exaggerate much? Also, you're no centrist, sir. You've made that evident. Will you denounce Antifa? I bet you've got a Bill Ayers poster on your wall. Come on. Tell the truth.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: GasTeddy on March 30, 2024, 11:37:27 AM
Biden and the dems better hope that what many are predicting never happens ... a terrorist attack by an illegal(s) who came in through our southern border.
There are lots of those happening in Europe. Smaller clashes are not even mentioned and when bigger ones created quite some outcry, those making noise against these were first labelled far-rights, racists, neonazis and what ever. Until it became bit too evident that "allahu akbar" is not exactly same cry as "sieg heil".
Especially Germany is also suffering from numerous attacks against its infrastructure, like railroad network. Mainstream media either keeps silence or, when info leaks, explains it's also always done by far right extremists. Even if there is a guy holding Antifa flag flatten by train on rails.
My son was twelve when we were watching this. After the movie he said "replace tv in movie with smartphone and we have a documentary of the present days".
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on March 30, 2024, 12:10:56 PM
We have a lot of statistics here too that are ignored for gain by one side of the aisle. In our case their gain is votes.
That is exactly what open borders are about. The leftists count illegal aliens in the Census, which is itself a violation of the Constitution. In so doing, they can gain seats in congress, and they can tilt the Electoral College. They can also get them the ability to vote. The leftists do not care in the least how many vulnerable citizens are murdered, maimed, raped, or otherwise injured by their illegal alien political machinations.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on March 30, 2024, 12:18:11 PM
5th time Ya thrive on half-baked half-truths. Fools Gold by a known grifter.
Biden wants to close border Magas refuses to pass the bill. Executive order only go so far and not enough without congress.
Biden wants the border closed Magas won’t let him so they can talk about failure they incited.
Learn it, live it, love it
Absolutely demonstrably false. Within the first 90 days of taking office, Biden made good on his promise to allow illegal aliens unfettered entry to the United States by issuing no less than NINETY-FOUR executive orders, commanding the border open by executive fiat.
The immigration laws are clear. The laws on the books do not just grant the executive branch authority to control the border, the Constitution charges the executive branch with the duty to enforce those laws. As such, no new legislation is required to shut down the invasion of illegal aliens. Biden has also not only been flying illegal aliens already in the nation to various locations in the dead of night, but he also flew 330,000 illegal aliens from Mexico into the United States, thereby bypassing the border entirely.
The published facts completely and irrevocably prove all of your claims demonstrably false. Biden campaigned on the issue of opening the borders, and absolutely proclaimed the border open, encouraging illegal aliens to surge to the border to gain entry upon his taking office.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: hazmatt on March 30, 2024, 12:24:08 PM
The geniuses now want to put the criminals in the military and to give them a patch to citizenship now that they can't find enough recruits to join the new woke military. What could go wrong with Chinese nationals who broke the law to come here illegally. Surely they can be trusted in our military.
Many of the people who join the military had fathers and grandfathers who joined. Those people are now telling their kids not to join. I am a perfect example of this. My son has voiced interest in the military from time to time when I mention something about my experiences. I quickly move to dissuade him of that.
The thing that I find most disheartening is the whole red team blue team thing. The uniparty is working together to screw us why acting as if they are doing something for us.
The reason the government was formed was to have them "protect the rights of the citizens" Maybe they should get back to that? Instead they "keep us safe" by taking our liberties.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on March 30, 2024, 12:25:06 PM
Since you like videos, the voice of the Republican that wrote the bill republicans voted down. They voted down their own bill for Orange Jesus to campaign on the failure he demanded.
See, you assume that because he places and (R) next to his name that he is actually a republican, ie., a conservative or a libertarian, or some combination thereof.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on March 30, 2024, 12:28:42 PM
OK fair enough Mr. Lawyer. Look it up and quote for me the existing law that permits closure of the southern border.
Go look up the 94 executive orders issued by Biden in his first 90 days in office that resulted in a tend fold increase in illegal border crossings in the first 9 month of his term.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on March 30, 2024, 12:35:28 PM
Again bringing up politics show how you are manipulated..they like to keep us divided as we are much easier to fool if we hate each other more than them..
This isn't a side issue it's a security issue for the nation that adversely affects all of us...Can't think of a single legit citizen helped by this record illegal criminal immigration..
Hey but keep bringing up your favorite senile or orange crook...this is much bigger than the latest turd in the white house..
Why are they now letting in record numbers of foreign criminals? This isn't normal folks..
Eagler
Oh, but it absolutely IS a "side" issue. One political group is perfectly willing to import millions of illegal immigrants, and count them in the Census illegally, in order to gain political control, and solidify their hold on it.
Failure to correctly identify the problem, and the root cause, prevents resolution of the problem.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: hazmatt on March 30, 2024, 12:37:15 PM
The thing that I find most disheartening is the whole red team blue team thing. The uniparty is working together to screw us why acting as if they are doing something for us.
The reason the government was formed was to have them "protect the rights of the citizens" Maybe they should get back to that? Instead they "keep us safe" by taking our liberties.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Eagler on March 30, 2024, 12:55:52 PM
The thing that I find most disheartening is the whole red team blue team thing. The uniparty is working together to screw us why acting as if they are doing something for us.
The reason the government was formed was to have them "protect the rights of the citizens" Maybe they should get back to that? Instead they "keep us safe" by taking our liberties.
Yep more a uniparty than sides imo..
This illegal immigration is happening as planned and executed..10's of 1000's were on the way weeks into 2021
It was happening overseas at a higher level than here until 2021
Though some think it's for humanitarian reasons many others believe it's to built a larger segment of a population that will be easily swayed with promises of bright shiny free things..to the demise of everything else
Sadly most of any noise to get it corrected anytime soon is just lip service imo
Eagler
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: AKIron on March 30, 2024, 01:16:54 PM
The only way to educate some like these sanctuary cities is to make sure they get more than their share. Then they will see it isn't about race but rather what your society can support in terms of jobs and infrastructure.
Add several million more people to NYC, Chicago, Denver, San Francisco, etc... and see how it affects them. There are more than enough here already to do just that.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on March 30, 2024, 01:29:36 PM
By all means a uniparty does exist. There are a number of "republicans" who are liberal statist establishment RINO's, members of the uniparty. They're not even remotely republican, they're neither conservative, nor libertarian, nor any combination thereof. There are people such as Paul, Massie, Cruz, Higgins, Roy, Blackburn, and Hageman. Then there are people like McConnel, McCarthy, Buck, Cheney, Snow, Collins, Murkowski, and Romney. The first group are republicans.The others are part of the uniparty.
However, they're not "red", they're "purple", and maybe the worst of all.
Unfortunately, it is about sides, and there is no longer a "loyal opposition, and it is past time to stop treating leftists as if they are the "loyal oppositi0on. They ceased being that decades ago. They're not people who have different ideas on how to make the nation better. They're enemies of liberty, looking to fundamentally alter the Republic the Founding Fathers gifted us. And they're willing do to anything necessary, at any cost to do so. To ignore that fact is fatal naivete. They have for decades counted on being accepted as the "loyal opposition". They're no more "loyal opposition than Lenin, Marx, Stalin, or Mao.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: RUSH1 on March 30, 2024, 04:37:56 PM
By all means a uniparty does exist. There are a number of "republicans" who are liberal statist establishment RINO's, members of the uniparty. They're not even remotely republican, they're neither conservative, nor libertarian, nor any combination thereof. There are people such as Paul, Massie, Cruz, Higgins, Roy, Blackburn, and Hageman. Then there are people like McConnel, McCarthy, Buck, Cheney, Snow, Collins, Murkowski, and Romney. The first group are republicans.The others are part of the uniparty.
However, they're not "red", they're "purple", and maybe the worst of all.
Unfortunately, it is about sides, and there is no longer a "loyal opposition, and it is past time to stop treating leftists as if they are the "loyal oppositi0on. They ceased being that decades ago. They're not people who have different ideas on how to make the nation better. They're enemies of liberty, looking to fundamentally alter the Republic the Founding Fathers gifted us. And they're willing do to anything necessary, at any cost to do so. To ignore that fact is fatal naivete. They have for decades counted on being accepted as the "loyal opposition". They're no more "loyal opposition than Lenin, Marx, Stalin, or Mao.
Amen. The two parties are light years apart, especially in terms of allegiance to this country. Don't let a dozen or so Rinos make you think different.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: AKIron on March 30, 2024, 05:01:16 PM
So here we are. How can we integrate these who came in illegally but were sorta invited by some. Maybe we could get them to leave by denying them jobs and financial assistance. Does anyone believe we will actually do that? We won't. So, what next?
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: AKIron on March 30, 2024, 05:24:18 PM
I'm all in for a Heinleinesque solution. Only citizens vote (verified). Citizenship is earned by service. Not necessarily military service though that works too.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on March 30, 2024, 07:45:39 PM
So here we are. How can we integrate these who came in illegally but were sorta invited by some. Maybe we could get them to leave by denying them jobs and financial assistance. Does anyone believe we will actually do that? We won't. So, what next?
I'm all in for a Heinleinesque solution. Only citizens vote (verified). Citizenship is earned by service. Not necessarily military service though that works too.
Simple. Only legal citizens vote, verified by photo ID. Only legal citizens are counted in the Census.
Any illegal alien detained for any reason is deported in 48 hours.
Mexico doesn't like it? Lock the border. Cease all trade. A neighbor that facilitates invasion of your nation is an enemy. Mexico will go bankrupt and starve long before the U.S. has any real problem. At that point, having the actual military run the border is acceptable. Mexico can take their invaders back, the easy way, or the hard way.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: AKIron on March 30, 2024, 07:56:42 PM
Simple. Only legal citizens vote, verified by photo ID. Only legal citizens are counted in the Census.
Any illegal alien detained for any reason is deported in 48 hours.
Mexico doesn't like it? Lock the border. Cease all trade. A neighbor that facilitates invasion of your nation is an enemy. Mexico will go bankrupt and starve long before the U.S. has any real problem. At that point, having the actual military run the border is acceptable. Mexico can take their invaders back, the easy way, or the hard way.
Run for office. You have my vote.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: FLOOB on March 30, 2024, 10:30:05 PM
The democrats want the influx of Latin American immigrants because they ignorantly believed they would all be potential democrat voters. If they ever stepped foot in Latin America they’d know they’d never vote for the pro abortion team. Consequently Texas has become a catholic majority state and shocker, Texas banned abortion. Now dems are starting to change their tune while outwardly still talking open borders so they don’t alienate the liberal dem voter.
Remember that cult in oregon that bused in all those homeless people from California to vote in Oregon.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Oldman731 on March 30, 2024, 11:16:55 PM
Hilts. With all due respect, and understanding that you are a P-38 fan and therefore to be compassionately pitied...that is an absurd suggestion. Absurd. Only a military state could undertake such a draconian displacement of that many people. This is America, still, and not Stalin's USSR.
- oldman
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Chris79 on March 31, 2024, 12:13:33 AM
Hilts. With all due respect, and understanding that you are a P-38 fan and therefore to be compassionately pitied...that is an absurd suggestion. Absurd. Only a military state could undertake such a draconian displacement of that many people. This is America, still, and not Stalin's USSR.
- oldman
Make it so they self deport. No bank accounts. No utility accounts Fine employers 15% of gross revenue for each illegal hired No Mortgage. Ect. No need to round people up, just make living illegally in the US difficult to damn near impossible.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: GasTeddy on March 31, 2024, 02:05:26 AM
Integration works only, if those incomers are willing to integrate and live like the normal folks does. My experience from several countries around Europe tells, that's minority, just a fraction. This is because our stupid overwhelming social security which in many countries gives parasgrants (or immigsites) priority over own citizens.
When working in EU, with internal security related matters, I had several guys with immigrant origin in my teams and no bad word to say about them. But they represented exactly that minority, who have admitted old Finnish saying "maassa maan tavalla tai maasta pois", in English "in a country, a way of the country or away from the country".
Edit: Sausage finger misprints
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: nrshida on March 31, 2024, 06:20:27 AM
Some of you people are rather fascistic. What a shock.
Integration works only, if those incomers are willing to integrate and live like the normal folks does. My experience from several countries around Europe tells, that's minority, just a fraction. This is because our stupid overwhelming social security which in many countries gives parasgrants (or immigsites) priority over own citizens.
That's a European failing. America does that very well: integrating 'foreigners' into their culture, unlike Germany for one specific example who generations later still refer to some 'non-indigenous-Germans' as Gastarbeiter.
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Eagler on March 31, 2024, 07:25:26 AM
Some of you people are rather fascistic. What a shock.
That's a European failing. America does that very well: integrating 'foreigners' into their culture, unlike Germany for one specific example who generations later still refer to some 'non-indigenous-Germans' as Gastarbeiter.
Not always, not like before ..
Sadly it will be just what Savage fears..
They will vote..
they will be given the means to survive on the taxpayers dime..
Fast track to citizenship...you won't even be able to tell they were ever illegal
Some will go conservative but many/enough will vote for the side with the most free shiny things like the ignorant do now..
The sleeper cells are a larger immediate concern imo...we've made alot of enemies in 4 years..
Eagler
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Eagler on March 31, 2024, 08:08:12 AM
Claim is now that a known terrorist has walked across our border and is nowhere to be found ...
Setting up our next >20 year unwinnable war?
Watch how everyone screams for it when the next "surprise" terror attack is executed..
I trust the corrupt dc morons as far as I can throw them..
Eagler
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Eagler on March 31, 2024, 08:14:41 AM
How it's being done...
Easier assistance for illegal immigrants than for our own citizens..
Eagler
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: AKIron on March 31, 2024, 08:25:35 AM
TB and Measles are on the rise in the US. What could be causing this?
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: Eagler on March 31, 2024, 08:53:49 AM
Keep those buses flowing north!!
It's insanity on steroids..
Eagler
Title: Re: Invasion
Post by: AKIron on March 31, 2024, 09:03:38 AM
Only 9 busses in a day? Abbott needs to get his act together. 50 busses a day would be more like it.