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General Forums => Hardware and Software => Topic started by: SilverZ06 on April 07, 2012, 11:18:24 AM
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Here is what I got so far. She will just be using it mainly for web browsing, photo editing/scrapbooking, etc. Nothing too demanding. Any suggestions or changes you would make? Just want a decently quick system for her. I think this will be great but I am worried she will try to compare it to the speed of mine which has an ssd for OS. I dont want to spend a grand for her to think its "slow"
1 GIGABYTE GZ-KF03B Black SGCC ATX Mid Tower Computer Case GIGABYTE GZ-KF03B Black SGCC ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811233067
1 SAMSUNG 22X DVD Burner SATA Model SH-222BB/BEBE SAMSUNG 22X DVD Burner SATA Model SH-222BB/BEBE
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151244
1 Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 3000 BX80623I52500K Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072
1 Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5 Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136533
H-00001 Black USB RF Wireless Standard Desktop 800 for Business Microsoft 5SH-00001 Black USB RF Wireless Standard Desktop 800 for Business
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823109236
1 G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL Desktop Memory Model TXD38192M1600HC9DC-D
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231428
1 ASUS VW246H Glossy Black 24 ASUS VW246H Glossy Black 24" 2ms(GTG) HDMI Widescreen LCD Monitor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236049
1 ASRock Z68 PRO3 GEN3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard ASRock Z68 PRO3 GEN3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157279
1 SeaSonic SS-300ES Bronze 300W ATX12V V2.3 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply SeaSonic SS-300ES Bronze 300W ATX12V V2.3 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151085
1 Rosewill RCM-2655V 2.0M pixels WebCam Rosewill RCM-2655V 2.0M pixels WebCam
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826193061
1 Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit
Item #: N82E16832116986
Return Policy: Software Standard Return Policy $99.99
Total: $940 :uhoh
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Also can anyone recommend a wall mount for that monitor?
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If she complains, tell her she can buy it herself. :)
Seems like a lot for only a 300W psu and no video card.
Actually I think you need a video card since that mobo doesn't have a video chipset.
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If she complains, tell her she can buy it herself. :)
Seems like a lot for only a 300W psu and no video card.
Actually I think you need a video card since that mobo doesn't have a video chipset.
the z68 boards do have video chipsets. look at the hdmi,dvi, outputs on the board.
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Then I am confused by:
(http://i39.tinypic.com/bijw46.jpg)
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Then I am confused by:
(http://i39.tinypic.com/bijw46.jpg)
Sorry, The graphics are actually in the cpu. The z68 just make them usable. My p67 board on my build doesn't have the outputs for the onboard graphics.
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Doh. Didn't read the whole CPU title. Looks pretty good then!
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According to what I've read, the integrated "Intel HD Graphics 3000" is roughly equivalent to low-end cards like the Nvidia 9800 XT and AMD HD 5450.
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According to what I've read, the integrated "Intel HD Graphics 3000" is roughly equivalent to low-end cards like the Nvidia 9800 XT and AMD HD 5450.
that should be fine for what she is gonna do. she won't be gaming.
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that should be fine for what she is gonna do. she won't be gaming.
Are you saying she hasn't found the facebook games yet? They're like crack for women.
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The 300W PSU is more than enough for this computer - there's even enough reserve to add a videocard with up to 75W.
Better try to get RAM without heatspreader - they are just for optics and have more bad than good (they don't help cooling, they are actually keeping some heat inside and are disturbing the air flow of the CPU cooler and sometimes you'll get problems to mount oversized CPU coolers).
Depending on the airflow design of you case you may also want to consider the SS-300ET PSU - larger 120mm fan and should run really quiet.
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Are you saying she hasn't found the facebook games yet? They're like crack for women.
thankfully she can't stand those. :aok
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if in the future you want to get a video card for whatever reason. then you will have to spend more money to get a better power supply than if you bought one right now. early reviews for the 2500k cpu are full of people that used it with a 300w and had lots of problems.
also the mobo has a limited number of pci slots and only 4 usb ports on the back, and that may limit you on possible upgrades later on or even adding more stuff.
you are already spending money on a good computer spend a little more and have a great computer. If i was you I would spend an extra 100 bucks to get a better mobo and ps. you may never need it but if yours takes a dump you can always borrow your wife's puter.
semp
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The CPU is a 95W max CPU, in realworld test it was about 70-75W under full load. The computer should have a max power consumption not far above 150W and there's plenty of room for a graphics card up to 75W (PCIe limit).
Seasonic is not super-cheap china stuff (nearly exploding if PSU is loaded above 75% rated power), these are quality PSU.
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if in the future you want to get a video card for whatever reason. then you will have to spend more money to get a better power supply than if you bought one right now. early reviews for the 2500k cpu are full of people that used it with a 300w and had lots of problems.
also the mobo has a limited number of pci slots and only 4 usb ports on the back, and that may limit you on possible upgrades later on or even adding more stuff.
you are already spending money on a good computer spend a little more and have a great computer. If i was you I would spend an extra 100 bucks to get a better mobo and ps. you may never need it but if yours takes a dump you can always borrow your wife's puter.
semp
This computer will already be overkill for what she does. I dont want to waste money on features she will never use. The mobo only has 1 pci-e slot and it will go unused already. I will probably change out the ps to the 120mm fan model, I didn't realize the one I selected only had an 80mm. I just like the single 24pin connector instead of the 20+4. If my computer takes a dump I will build a new one and salvage any parts I can for hers :devil As far as the usb slots go, The current pc she has right now only has 2 accessible in the front (the rear are not accessible where the computer is located.) and those do not get used. I just don't want to spend more $ on things I know she will never use. I may also change the case for one with better airflow, but I dont want to spend a lot on a case as she could care less what it looks like. As long as she can scrap book with photoshop and get online to check facebook and some porn sites she'll be happy.
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i that case then may here's another option.
http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/CyberPower_Z68_Configurator/
semp
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i that case then may here's another option.
http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/CyberPower_Z68_Configurator/
semp
That looked great until I added the monitor and operating system. Then it put me more than building it myself. I am definitely open to more idea though, especially ones that save me a little $. :salute
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That is what I was wondering myself, what photoshop uses more. RAM or video card? I myself use PS5 with 4GB of ram (DDR2) and 2x HD5770s. 8GB of ram costs nothing these days, but I guess the computers I spec out don't ever include monitors.
Denniss, Seasonic also aren't what they used to be.
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That is what I was wondering myself, what photoshop uses more. RAM or video card? I myself use PS5 with 4GB of ram (DDR2) and 2x HD5770s. 8GB of ram costs nothing these days, but I guess the computers I spec out don't ever include monitors.
Denniss, Seasonic also aren't what they used to be.
I'm almost positive it uses more ram than videocard. But I'll have to research that some more before ordering.
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That is what I was wondering myself, what photoshop uses more. RAM or video card?
you are allowed to set your RAM usage within photoshop settings....
you will/can use more of your PC RAM than VideCard RAM....... all depending on how you have your photoshop settings set to........
my own experience
YMMV
TC
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This computer will already be overkill for what she does. I dont want to waste money on features she will never use. The mobo only has 1 pci-e slot and it will go unused already. I will probably change out the ps to the 120mm fan model, I didn't realize the one I selected only had an 80mm. I just like the single 24pin connector instead of the 20+4. If my computer takes a dump I will build a new one and salvage any parts I can for hers :devil As far as the usb slots go, The current pc she has right now only has 2 accessible in the front (the rear are not accessible where the computer is located.) and those do not get used. I just don't want to spend more $ on things I know she will never use. I may also change the case for one with better airflow, but I dont want to spend a lot on a case as she could care less what it looks like. As long as she can scrap book with photoshop and get online to check facebook and some porn sites she'll be happy.
If that's all the machine is going to be used to I would recommend opting for far cheaper parts still and ditching windows for linux. Nothing beats linux for browsing porn sites. With windows you'll be full of viruses in no time.
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If that's all the machine is going to be used to I would recommend opting for far cheaper parts still and ditching windows for linux. Nothing beats linux for browsing porn sites. With windows you'll be full of viruses in no time.
I know absolutely nothing about linux. I'd like to learn it someday but no on her computer. She sticks to the "safe" sites anyway. Haven't had an issue yet.... knock on wood (no pun intended)
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If you (and your wife) would like to give a glimpse on Linux, try Wubi (http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/windows-installer). It will install the latest version of Ubuntu from within Windows. It creates a dual boot menu showing at startup and is easy to remove via "Programs and features". The desktop looks a lot like windows with a twist.
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If you (and your wife) would like to give a glimpse on Linux, try Wubi (http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/windows-installer). It will install the latest version of Ubuntu from within Windows. It creates a dual boot menu showing at startup and is easy to remove via "Programs and features". The desktop looks a lot like windows with a twist.
I will install it on my machine and give it a try. thanks!
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It can be used as a sandbox in case you/she want(s) to look at some interesting websites you aren't quite sure of. Although Windows files are accessible through Ubuntu, nothing can be installed without the password. This guide (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide) might be of help... And if you get something into Windows that can't be removed from within it, the Linux will give you a backdoor option for removal.
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Well I tried to instal wubi on my laptop (I am out of town at the moment) and after the 3 hour download (slow hotel internet) it have errors saying a hard disc could not be found :bhead. I'll try again tonight but if it fails again I guess I'll wait to try it on my rig when I get home. Have you ever had it give an error about hard discs on install?
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i had the same problem on my computer. it took me 10 minutes to d/l just to tell me about somekind of problem. 3 times. so i gave up.
semp
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For experiments with Linux or other OS I suggest to use a virtual computer by installing VirtualBox or similar virtualization software.
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Uninstalled Ubuntu from Windows 25 minutes ago, downloaded Wubi in ten minutes from here (http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/windows-installer), another ten for installing. Just as it tells on "show me how". After reboot it did some settings on its own and rebooted. I'm writing this on Ubuntu, so apparently this is up and working.
Another way of trying Linux is to download an ISO image, burn it and run it from the CD. No installation needed, no double booting, no changes to the original system. There's a bunch of Live-CD's available.
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ok another 1/2 hr wasted, got the same error as before. i tried on two different hd's that I have windows. here's the error.
(http://i492.photobucket.com/albums/rr285/semperac/ubuntuerror.png)
semp
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ok another 1/2 hr wasted, got the same error as before. i tried on two different hd's that I have windows. here's the error.
(http://i492.photobucket.com/albums/rr285/semperac/ubuntuerror.png)
semp
Looks like you tried to run the setup without administrator rights and UAC on. UAC virtualizes the setting files and confuses the setup. Try running the setup again, this time 'run as administrator'.
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Looks like you tried to run the setup without administrator rights and UAC on. UAC virtualizes the setting files and confuses the setup. Try running the setup again, this time 'run as administrator'.
nope same error as before. I guess it's not as easy as just downloading and installing it.
semp
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nope same error as before. I guess it's not as easy as just downloading and installing it.
semp
It should be. If wubi won't work you can always do it the regular way - download and burn a dvd. Ubuntu will detect you already have windows on your hdd and create a dual boot setup for you.
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I'm trying it again on my home pc now. Ill let you know how it goes.
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I got the same error as semp, however I just cleared it and restarted the pc. I am typing this from ubuntu :x
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I got the same error as semp, however I just cleared it and restarted the pc. I am typing this from ubuntu :x
Did you install ubuntu-restricted-extras already with apt-get? I recommend installing at least msttcorefonts (included in the restricted package) to display websites properly even though the new ubuntu font has improved. The extras will bring you unrar, flash playback etc.
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I got the same error as semp, however I just cleared it and restarted the pc. I am typing this from ubuntu :x
Well done sir! I'd like to give you a gazillion hints and tips, but all I can do is to install and use some of its functions. Suffice to say it has saved my bacon several times. And it is satisfactory to notice I'm not too old to learn new tricks. :salute
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Did you install ubuntu-restricted-extras already with apt-get? I recommend installing at least msttcorefonts (included in the restricted package) to display websites properly even though the new ubuntu font has improved. The extras will bring you unrar, flash playback etc.
:huh I have no idea how to do anything in ubuntu. I barely got it running. :lol Can you translate what you said into english or perhaps explain it to me as if I were a 5th grader?
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:huh I have no idea how to do anything in ubuntu. I barely got it running. :lol Can you translate what you said into english or perhaps explain it to me as if I were a 5th grader?
Use the unity (desktop) search on the top left corner of the screen to find a program called 'terminal' and run it. You will get a black box similar to ms-dos screen. Then paste this to the terminal:
sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
it will ask you for your password and then you'll see the install start.
Alternatively you can just open the ubuntu software center from your applications menu and browse there for free software. There are games, tools and even the restricted extras available double click away.
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how did you clear the error? did you press the "ok" button?
semp
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how did you clear the error? did you press the "ok" button?
semp
yep, just pressed ok and restarted
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i did that with mine 3 times. it didnt work. oh well I guess I am out of luck.
semp
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i did that with mine 3 times. it didnt work. oh well I guess I am out of luck.
semp
Just burn a dvd and do a dual boot install. Ubuntu will be perfect for her, it can do all the basic things except play windows games.
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i did that with mine 3 times. it didnt work. oh well I guess I am out of luck. semp
Could it be possible that your antivirus is considering wubi as a potential threat? Lately I've found the sandbox in Avast doing things like that, although it clearly informs about it. Some other brand antivirus programs may act silently in the background.
Another possibility is, that your hardware isn't Debian compatible at all. I've heard different Linux distributions are somewhat tailored to certain hardware combinations, but it should be bootable in any case. You can test it by downloading and burning yourself an Ubuntu CD (http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download). You don't have to install anything, just boot from the CD. The live-CD will of course be a tad slower than the hard disk installation, but serves well for compatibility testing purposes. There's a menu asking whether you'd like to install Ubuntu or just try it from the CD.
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no my av was disabled. and so was the firewall. I wonder if it is because my disk is partitioned in 3 already and it tries to create another partition. I bet this is the problem. as I have 1 partition for windows another for ah and the 3rd for wot and other software I dont really want in my windows partition.
I have an old hd with windows but it also has 3 partitions gonna try it again on that one. soon as I get better this damn flu is killing me, off work for 4 days already.
semp
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Wubi doesn't make a partition. It just creates a folder. I have three partitions as well, all primary. How about enough free space?
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only 400 gigs left on c the others have at least 150g
semp
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only 400 gigs left on c the others have at least 150g
semp
LOL then it can't be due to too little space. The last time I did the installation on C, which had 21 gigs free before the 6 gig installation. The reason for C is, that I often plug a customer's disk in with a USB cable and try to save its contents to my D partition. The third one is only 6 gigs, for pagefile only.
And yes, before some tech savvy feels the urgent need to lend a helping hand: I know it would be good to have more free space on C. I'm planning to change my 160 gigs HDD to a bigger one. Someday...
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Well I just ordered everything. I swapped out the PS to the 120mm fan version, changed to a micro atx z77 board, and changed the case
1 x ($829.99) HP ProBook 4530s (LJ521UT#ABA) Notebook Intel Core i7 2670QM(2.20GHz) 15.6" 4GB Memory DDR3 1333 500GB HDD 7200rpm DVD+/-RW SuperMulti DL AMD Radeon HD 6490M with 1 GB dedicated GDDR5 video memory
$829.99
1 x ($219.99) Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 3000 BX80623I52500K
$219.99
1 x ($199.99) ASUS VW246H Glossy Black 24" 2ms(GTG) HDMI Widescreen LCD Monitor 300 cd/m2 ASCR 20000:1 (1000:1) Built-in Speakers
$199.99
1 x ($139.99) Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive - OEM
$139.99
1 x ($109.99) ASRock Z77 Pro4-M LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard
$109.99
1 x ($99.99) Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - OEM
$99.99
1 x ($61.99) AFT PRO-57U All-in-one USB 3.0 5.25" Media Card Reader
$61.99
1 x ($46.99) G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL
$46.99
1 x ($39.99) SeaSonic SS-300ET Bronze 300W ATX12V V2.3 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply - OEM
$39.99
1 x ($29.99) Rosewill FBM-01 Dual Fans MicroATX Mini Tower Computer Case
$29.99
1 x ($24.99) Rosewill RCM-2655V 2.0M pixels WebCam
$24.99
1 x ($22.99) Microsoft 5SH-00001 Black USB RF Wireless Standard Desktop 800 for Business
$22.99
1 x ($16.99) SAMSUNG 22X DVD Burner 22X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 22X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 24X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM SATA Model SH-222BB/BEBE - OEM
$16.99
1 x ($0.00) Newegg Promotional Gift Card(The total amount of Gift Cards: $10.00)
Should have it all this week so hopefully I'll have it running by the weekend. I think I will load AH on it just to see how it does with the built in video chip.
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Well I just ordered everything. I swapped out the PS to the 120mm fan version, changed to a micro atx z77 board, and changed the case
1 x ($829.99) HP ProBook 4530s (LJ521UT#ABA) Notebook Intel Core i7 2670QM(2.20GHz) 15.6" 4GB Memory DDR3 1333 500GB HDD 7200rpm DVD+/-RW SuperMulti DL AMD Radeon HD 6490M with 1 GB dedicated GDDR5 video memory
$829.99
1 x ($219.99) Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 3000 BX80623I52500K
$219.99
1 x ($199.99) ASUS VW246H Glossy Black 24" 2ms(GTG) HDMI Widescreen LCD Monitor 300 cd/m2 ASCR 20000:1 (1000:1) Built-in Speakers
$199.99
1 x ($139.99) Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive - OEM
$139.99
1 x ($109.99) ASRock Z77 Pro4-M LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard
$109.99
1 x ($99.99) Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - OEM
$99.99
1 x ($61.99) AFT PRO-57U All-in-one USB 3.0 5.25" Media Card Reader
$61.99
1 x ($46.99) G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL
$46.99
1 x ($39.99) SeaSonic SS-300ET Bronze 300W ATX12V V2.3 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply - OEM
$39.99
1 x ($29.99) Rosewill FBM-01 Dual Fans MicroATX Mini Tower Computer Case
$29.99
1 x ($24.99) Rosewill RCM-2655V 2.0M pixels WebCam
$24.99
1 x ($22.99) Microsoft 5SH-00001 Black USB RF Wireless Standard Desktop 800 for Business
$22.99
1 x ($16.99) SAMSUNG 22X DVD Burner 22X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 22X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 24X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM SATA Model SH-222BB/BEBE - OEM
$16.99
1 x ($0.00) Newegg Promotional Gift Card(The total amount of Gift Cards: $10.00)
Should have it all this week so hopefully I'll have it running by the weekend. I think I will load AH on it just to see how it does with the built in video chip.
So you bought a laptop and a desktop?
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yes, the laptop is for me as I travel a lot. I meant to delete that from the list I copy and pasted but apparently I forgot. :lol
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yes, the laptop is for me as I travel a lot. I meant to delete that from the list I copy and pasted but apparently I forgot. :lol
Ok just wanted to make sure you didn't check one expensive extra you didn't mean to :)
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I got it built and running. Runs great but I am a little concerned about the HDD as it is noisy. I have the same drive in my rig and it isn't noisy. of coarse I run my OS on an ssd so the hdd on my machine doesn't get r/w to as much as hers will being the only drive. The PSU doesn't come in a box, nor does it come with a power cable to the wall. Luckily I had one. My brand new MB was also missing the rear i/o snap in panel for the case. Over all it runs great. I need to install ah to see how it does on the integrated graphics.