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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Nash on October 27, 2003, 10:55:48 PM
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Uh... literally... Why? I have no idea... I've always found BBS confessionals rather cheesy (and in the annals of the AH BBS there have been some real doozies)... But heck, to you its just gotta be entertaining - and I aim to please. This is prolly gonna suprise some folks (uhm.. waves at Sand - Hi buddy! ;) )... or, ****, maybe not so much.
Let's get it out of the way... I'm on my 2nd day of, and gosh I hate this word, sobriety... or cleanness? Whatever. Started doing online flight sims in '96, and have flown straight maybe a few times at most. At most. Mostly, I have been totally, completely toejam-faced. Lemme tell ya the introduction of vox to flight sims sure didn't do much for my cover ("aarmgha seeyax!! ah fuhhh...Ni!"). I don't know why I started, or how it got this bad. Er, maybe there's a clue somewhere in the clockwork-like repetition of it. God knows I love a good routine. In 7 years I have probably NOT gotten smashed less than 7 days.... and only because I probably had a cold on those days or something. Whew.... looks bad when I say it like that. But that's not all folks... not hardly....
For the last year I've been the proud owner of a (drumroll....) heroin addiction! Gee - that looks worse. Since Novemeber of last year. Long story short, I met the most amazing girl with (it turns out) the most insatiable appetite for IV drugs. I thought I'd give it a whirl, and here I am a year later freezing my arse off despite it having to be 80+ degrees in here... puke bucket beside the computer... Took me about 3 years to save 65 grand and I managed to blow it all in the last 6 months... Lemme be the 1st to say it's not all glamour. Hmm... Yeah, that's kinda the tip of the iceburg in the carnage of it. I wrecked a lot of stuff. Whewboy..
Whelp... detoxing is a biatch, I'm feeling pathetic, yet I can't help laughing my ARSE off as I type this. I hope it makes all your sad miserable lives seem okey-dokey! :aok
So kids - fer heaven's sake just say NO... thanks! Next stop: High on life! Lol... Wha? omg shiiat.... :rolleyes:
I love you all very very much.
Comments? Questions? SAVE 'EM! Hehe nah.... I've got nothing but time on my hands now....
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dude get to rehab! helps withdrawal 100% and keeps you away from more junk. I know of a good one in tx ;) let me know if you want the number.
[edit] if ya need to talk let me know. I can call you or you can call me. I hope you don't try and do this alone though. It's much more easier on you if you can get some help.
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Good luck Nash.
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Glad to hear you've started to fight it. Seriously. Best of luck.
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Good luck and get well!
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You can also get the number of a local AA or NA. They have a 24 hour hotline in most if not all big cities. You should be able to get the number right off the net.
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Suddenly withdrawing from alcohol alone can be serious and even life threatening. I suggest you get medical advice/assistance for both issues.
Good luck Nash
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My best wishes are with you Nash.
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Nash, you rockstar, hang in there.
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Get some help Nash. Tough to kick something like that on your own. Best of luck to ya.
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Just say no! - Nancy Reagan
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(http://interoz.com/loadedpole/boat.GIF)
Got to be trolling, eh?
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Originally posted by Udie
You can also get the number of a local AA or NA. They have a 24 hour hotline in most if not all big cities. You should be able to get the number right off the net.
Do that now. Getting through detox is just the start.
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the virtual world wishes you the best of luck, nash.
troll or no troll, i'm glad ya decided to step up to the plate.
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You should just cut back to weed and beer. These things take baby steps.
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Hang in there and don't do it alone.
h
flyfisheratchaffee.net if you need an anonymous ear.
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Nash,
GOOD LUCK!!!
I do hope you're able to get over this episode.
Drop me an email sir.
BTW, I am hoping this is a troll and frankly would be relieved if it were. Somehow I'm guessing otherwise.
Hang in there as this withdraw you're going through is temporary only. You'll make it.
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I don't know if it means anything to ya, but I've said a prayer for your success.
just a small tip on the H, I've known a couple of guys who've gone through it. of those that chose on their own (not arested, not threatened) and conscerned themselves more with getting past it than hidding it (you've already beat that part), every one of them beat it. through work and other contacts I've known a dozen or so. some with professional help some with out. the major determining factor was, where they doing it for themselves or to get someone else off their back.
btw- I hear campbels chicken noodle soup with saltine crackers crushed up in it will stay down longer than just about anything else and it doesn't go through you quit as fast or as painfully.
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You became a heroin addict over a girl and then blew 60 Grand?
Lol, Diptoejam.
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Jeeze Creamo, no empathy / sympathy at all?
I empathize with Nash: after all, I had to give up my day job for a while... I was buying illicit prescription medication from my housekeeper to feed my Oxycontin addiction.
I am in rehab now and should be back in a couple of weeks...
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Creamo, STFU.
Nash, good luck mate, you're gonna need it.
(http://image1ex.villagephotos.com/extern/640697.jpg)
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takes the worst to create the best.
hope thats what happens to you. your in my thoughts
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One of my best friends was a heroin addict for years and no-one knew it, except those he indulged with.
It started as a once a month get together with some people who would indulge just that one night...they snorted it apparently. When he met the "supplier" he realised he could get it whenever he wanted.
This guy didn't have alot of money, but fortunately he had enough intestinal fortitude to simply go "cold turkey" whenever he didn't have enough money. He kept all his bills paid and never stole a dime from anyone.
But he was sick alot.
I just thought he had a weak immune system, but should have suspected something when he got the "flu" every couple of weeks.
When he finally decided to quit he managed to do it on his own, but it was tough for him. Another firiend of mine was visiting from Canada at one point in his recovery and we were chatting about it. The addict friend started to tell us what heroin was like and the amazing part was that the guy had a longing smile on his face when he spoke about the efects of the drug. Seeing this, my friend who was visiting got pissed. He turned on the guy and said,
"Look at you...smiling when you think about that *****. I love you man, but I'll only say this once. When I come down here next time and find out you are still on that cr*p I'm going to kick your prettythang. Not a little slap around either. I'm gonna punch that smile out of your face for good."
It was like letting air out of a balloon. My addict friend broke down and cried.
He has been clean for over two years now I guess.
Good luck Nash. It isn't easy but it is well worth it.
No shame in what happened to you...it happens to surprisingly large number of people.
If I can help in any way let me know, even if you need someone to just talk it out with by e-mail or something.
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Just remember it's only going to get better now Nash, best wishes and good luck!
Daniel
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Good luck !
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Originally posted by Creamo
You became a heroin addict over a girl and then blew 60 Grand?
Lol, Diptoejam.
Kick a man while he's down and on hard times.
You feel better now?
Pathetic that you also have to bypass the filter just to say a certain word.
You should look in the mirror that last word of yours describes you to a 'T'
Pathetic, really.
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Shrooms really helped my smack withdrawels.
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Don't care if you're trolling or not; said a prayer for you either way. I actually hope you are trolling, but best of luck.
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Nash,
My younger brother died in February of a heroin addiction. So if this is a troll, I do not find it in the least bit funny, but if you seriously have a problem, I suggest you get serious help. Check in to a legitamate rehabilitation center, because bar none, heroin is the most addictive drug on the face of the planet. It is going to be a long tough road, and it will not be easy. You had best really want to be sober, because otherwise you are going to end up dead. Ohh, and you think that death is the easy way out, it's not. You get to die, then your family gets to pick up the pieces of your life that you leave behind, and they get to punish themselves for years after wondering why they did not do things differently, and save your prettythang.
I am telling you this because not a day goes by that I do not wish I could have forced my brother into a rehad, or get him arrested for possesion of heroin, anything to have kept him alive so that he could see the light. In the end, he thought he had the habit kicked, but for some stupid reason only he knows, he tried it one more time late one night. His roomate found him the next morning dead, a hypo, spoon, and empty baggy on the coffee table, the belt still wrapped around his arm. Writing this has brought back the pictures of him I had to see when I went to i.d. him for the family, images I have tried to surpress because they brought me awake for weeks after in nightmares. Nash, if you care anything about your family and friends, get help, you'll learn to care about yourself later. I wish you the best.
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well good luck too you Nash.....
hardest step is to recognize you did have a problem...well done
and guys...lay off creamo.....he is right about the money.....and even nash said it himself.....your are a dipchit for burning 65 000 in a few months just for a girl.....and drugs
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my best wishes to you Nash.... tried it once, my bursitis (sp) went away almost instantly - realized I could really like this but chose the bursitis ..... one of the best decisions I ever made.
Again, hang in there and best of luck with it
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bodhi
Nash - if you went through $65,000 in 6 months on your habit - I don't think you can pull it off yourself
prayin for ya sir - best of luck
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Good luck Nash.
now all your political rants certainly have a different value on them...~8-)
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Nash
Don't know if its a troll, but the effect on us here is the same - a reminder that behind every avatar is a live human being :)
You won't be the only 12 stepper here, either.
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Man, you are a dip**** for blowing through all that cash. You should have blown through it buying DVDs and pinball machines and other stupid **** like me. Tardling. Money comes and goes tho' and certainly ain't everything, so fo'getaboutit. Don't continue to be a dip****. You took the first step, which is good, now get your bellybutton to a rehab center. Surely your socialist government will cover that under your national health care ... they'll probably confine you to an igloo and make you eat whale blubber or something, but hell you canucks do that anyhow. Now get sober, and don't get lame in the process like Aerosmith. I wanna see more psychadellic uterus map art in the future! What the hell even if you do get lame it's better than dead...I hear being dead kinda sucks.
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Heroin addict have about the lowest recovery rates.. to be drunk every day for seven years would indicate that you are an addict in any case. good luck.
AA is what you need... all the rehab you go to will simply dry yu out (not a bad thing) and then send you to AA.... if you don't get AA you probly won't make it. That is just the way it is. not impossible without AA but odds are really against you.
I have 15 years now... heroin was not a factor because I used other drugs to get off it. As was mentioned tho... heroin users romance the drug more than any other type of user. Just talking about it sometimes causes them to go out and relapse... hence, the need for some type of program.
Tough road for most folks.... was for me. Like I said, good luck.
lazs
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Hang in there, Nash. Get some professional help, too.
Please!
We'll be here for ya. :)
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Sobriety is a good thing. I discovered it about 13 years ago. Good luck to you.
PS. Getting help is a good thing.
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Where is the "Legalize drugs! they're a victimless crime!" crowd???
http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=96103&referrerid=3203
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Get some professional help, please. You've already made the decision to kick the habit, please make sure you can follow through. Good luck man, my thoughts are with you.
Charon
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Where is the "Legalize drugs! they're a victimless crime!" crowd???
Great job Rip, lets have a political debate in this personal problem. Really saw a chance to score a point here I guess. WTG! I don't recall legalize Heroin being part of the debate, beyond decriminalize (So nash Doesn't detox in prison) and get treatment for those who need it.
Charon
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Charon,
My point being...unless you want to kill your friends, don't even considering legalization. Probably not the thread to bring it up in, but just a reminder that its a rediculous idea when I read posts like this. I wish Nash all the luck in the world(as I previously mentioned in my first post)
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Charon,
My point being...unless you want to kill your friends, don't even considering legalization.
The legality is irrelevant. Quite obviously, the fact that heroin is a controlled substance matters little or not at all.
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Nash, you're one of the brightest guys here. I hope you're bright enough to seek help with your addiction- it won't mean you're weak, it'll mean you're strong enough to seek the help you need.
Man, I'm always amazed at this- Life is so fleeting and short, and so full of new discoveries and fun things to do, why spend part of it zonked out on dope?
Get help Nash and come back to the world of the living. I know the grip drugs can have on a person, unfortunately, and I know you need AA to kick this crap.
-Airhead, former cocaine addict/pusher, straight for almost twenty years now.
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You're not the only one who's been there Nash. Good 1st step Bud.
Now get to rehab, get a sponser and hang in there, it only gets better from now on.
Best of Luck and God Bless ya Nash!
:aok
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Hang in there bro. I know you can do it!!
Best wishes for a speedy recovery.
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Nash I hope you recover and get well, but nothing can change the fact that you are a tard.
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Nash,
We're all tards in our own special way. Email me at kbman(at)verizon.net and we can exchange phone numbers and talk if you want to. It's a tough row to hoe, you have friends pulling for you. I'll spare you the tired homilies here, good luck.
kbman
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Hope it all works out for you nash. I've never been hooked an any drugs myself, but I hear heroins tough to kick. Keep yer chin up man. Also, keep your eye out for animals tips, he might have a tip on kicking addiction or something.
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
now all your political rants certainly have a different value on them...~8-)
Geez Rip, if you're going to hid it in background color, just don't type it.
As for legalization of drugs thing, I don't see you arguing for banning of alcohol. Why not ?
Nash, get better bud. Good luck.
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Hang in there Nash,
Hope things work out for ya.
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Good luck, Nash - get well mate.
Nim
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AA/NA works for those who aren't really addicted, and just need something else to do to keep their minds off of whatever they stopped doing. As a son of someone who went to AA, I've seen it not work at all. Addiction it was, and AA could not help it. Its all up to you now, you have one relapse and its almost guaranteed you will be relapsing the rest of your life.
For the heroin, you should go to NA (Narcotics Anonymous) - you can become acquainted with people who have walked your walk and could probably help you out better than the people who attend AA.
Once you get over the physical withdrawals, find something that occupies all of your time when you aren't at work. Whatever you use to do while on something won't work - cuz you'll only think about how it was when you were all smacked up.
Fly a kite, join the FDBs and be the meat for a MiniD/SOB sandwich with some Animal on the side, or just do volunteer work somewhere, or whatever. Just keep yourself occupied physically and mentally.
-SW
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I think Lazs is talking about doing the steps and getting a sponsor, etc. If Nash doesn't do that, and just does detox, he's going to relapse. Heroin has a pretty high mortality rate. Don't **** around, get busy.
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I think you guys should all take thoses hooks out of your mouths if you notice he sure hasnt answered back at all!
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I guess that explains some things......
Best wishes to you Nash
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Nash good luck m8 ---Do it any way You can---just do it....
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Originally posted by boxboy28
I think you guys should all take thoses hooks out of your mouths if you notice he sure hasnt answered back at all!
Trolling with a topic like this isn't Nash's style.
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Originally posted by Sandman_SBM
Trolling with a topic like this isn't Nash's style.
Something about the way he wrote it makes me think he isn't trolling at all.
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If you go to AA without working the steps you might as well go drink again. The steps ARE the program. I quit working them and within 2 months I smoked a joint.....
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don't listen to udie... he's a psycho. or is it skitzo? One of the two.
My advice to you, Nash, is to do whatever SOB says. Especially if it involves sex. It may very well be the only way you'll be cured. Funked used to be addicted to tic tacs until SOB straightened him out.
I'd give you some real expert advice, but I'd have to charge you $50,000 for it... and I see you've already blown that money on something else.
MiniD
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Originally posted by Udie
If you go to AA without working the steps you might as well go drink again. The steps ARE the program. I quit working them and within 2 months I smoked a joint.....
time to start taking them again then ...
didn't you feel like you threw all that effort right out the window? bet you felt like crap the next morning for letting yourself down ..
don't quit - try again
sad part is, it is a life changing experience - you have to do 95% of everything different and with different ppl
some think its worth it, others don't and fall back
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Seek professional help, Nash....we're hoping you can beat the habbit and get back to your old self.
Umm, would you mind getting Rush's autograph while there? JK!
Seriously, best of luck to you, it can be beaten...I'm sure you have friends and family that can help you thru it. :aok
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Charon,
My point being...unless you want to kill your friends, don't even considering legalization. Probably not the thread to bring it up in, but just a reminder that its a rediculous idea when I read posts like this. I wish Nash all the luck in the world(as I previously mentioned in my first post)
And by extension you not only wish Nash all the luck in the world but also that he be arrested and jailed for the possession and use of Heroin. Tasteful, Rip - very tasteful. :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Eagler
time to start taking them again then ...
didn't you feel like you threw all that effort right out the window? bet you felt like crap the next morning for letting yourself down ..
don't quit - try again
sad part is, it is a life changing experience - you have to do 95% of everything different and with different ppl
some think its worth it, others don't and fall back
Well to be honest eagler I didn't feel bad about it. Not until I talked to a rehab friend about it a week later, then I felt like I had let them down. My 'justification' was that I'm not an alcoholic, which is true, I'm a drug addict (prescription drugs to be more accurate). So I'd get up there each time and say "my name is sean and I'm an alcoholic (kind of manditory at AA) and I'd know that wasn't true, honesty is a huge part of that program. So it started getting to me after a while that I was 'lying' each time I spoke. I tried some NA meetings but they gave me cravings seeing all the pot and junkheads. So, I stopped going and stopped working the steps.
2 months later I smoked a joint. 4 months after that I'm emotionally almost back where I was before rehab, minus the insanity caused by the xanax and other psychotropic drugs I got from the shrink. You know what? They were right. I'm going back to the same lifestyle that lead me there in the first place. I've kind of known this for the last couple of months but have been fighting it. Last night after reading this thread I decided to start back at my rehab "aftercare" meetings every thursday night. And take it from there.....
Nash,
I wish you post something to let us know you're ok. I'm worried about you dude....
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Originally posted by Sandman_SBM
Trolling with a topic like this isn't Nash's style.
You got that right Sandman. Nash you have our best wishes. Let me know if we can help any any way squadie.
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Udie good news.
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Never heard of anyone kicking Heroine on their own.
You HAVE to get help Nash.
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For Nash: http://robpongi.com/pages/comboMOKINHI.html
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OMG, get better soon!
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I think you guys should all take thoses hooks out of your mouths if you notice he sure hasnt answered back at all!
if he's serious he's probably unable to get to a computer right now.
given a choice I'd rather risk falling for a tastless troll, than to risk having someone make a serious post like this and not take him seriously.
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if he's serious he's probably unable to get to a computer right now.
To say the least, i hope he have somebody with him if hes doing this alone :(
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yep, he could really use someone just being in the house to stop him from leaving when he hits the his weak point.
I've done the 'babysitter' job before, it sucks.
basicly just sit in the living room and watch tv for a few days while your friend goes through hell in the bedroom and bathroom. bring them soup a couple times a day, and unplug the phone and refuse to let them leave when they think about giving up.
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All the luck in the world Nash! you can do it man, my mom was really hardcore on that watermelon as well as numerous other stuff back in the day, saw it all while i was a young kid early teens and on. I can tell you one thing i hear all this talk bout AA and admitting you have a problem etc, but in all honestly AA and NA meetings as well and rehab wont do watermelon for you unless you fully 100% just dont want to be on the durgs anymore which is a hard point to get to, from what you posted you sound bout just how hardcore my mom was, she went through 3 rehabs tons of meetings all of that stuff, it was until one night she came home after she told us she went to order a pizza 4 nights earlier and i told her i was completely done with her BS, and i called my dad and moved my sis bro and me to his house, that fineally made her relize just how bad she was and what was goin on, shes been clean for 2 and a half years now, shes going to college for her degree at 40 late start, got a new house,working a good job part time, but i support her fully for doing somethin which after the first 4 years of her watermelon i thought would never happen and was impossible, man oh man have i seen some stuff in my day, anyways you can do it Nash you dont want that watermelon man, g'luck sir.:)
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akwolfie... sorry bout your friend but..... you don't have the faintest idea what you are talking about.
lazs
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Well, I do know what I'm talking about... but don't let me change your mind Lazs. AA/NA isn't some miracle, it requires the willpower of those attending it to change their lives.
-SW
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You guys can both be right and wrong, there ain't no panacea for kicking the habit. Leave no stone unturned is the best outlook.
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dbl.
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This pic should kill two birds with one stone... putting the "trolling" questions to rest I hope, and at the same time answering Creamo's post in language that he can understand. :lol
(http://modena.intergate.ca/personal/cwharton/sbm/chrs.jpg)
Yegads tho. Who would troll about something like this? Weird. But nah... I laughed when I read your reply Creamo... It was an incredibly stupid thing to do. I didn't do this "over a girl" though, as if I needed to pick up a heroin habit in order to win her over or something absurd like that. She did it, I tried it out, and that's pretty much it. And the money...yeah that does suck but I made it when I wasn't all there... I've done everything at 10% capacity for so so long. Clean, I'll get it back. If not, oh well. It's the least of my problems at any rate. Hmm...I did say posts like this were entertaining....and if you really did "lol", my work here is done. :)
Thanks SO much everyone for all the kind words, support and emails! It came as a total suprise to me just how much a simple "good luck" and "my prayers are with you" ended up really making me feel better, a LOT better, about this entire thing. It choked me up reading the posts here to be honest. I haven't let anyone in on my little secret, and seeing the responses here makes things... much more real. I don't know how I've gotten away with this for so long, with practically nobody (but you guys now) knowing the extent of it... or even close to it. This is a big relief to me, somehow. Like a long exhail.
The suggestions re detox/rehab centers is a great idea. I want to try and kick this on my own for the time being... but if I fail even just once I'll be checking into one of those immediately- without a doubt. I'm worn out and sick of this... so whatever it takes is what it'll take.
It's day 3.... I feel like complete hell so I'm gonna take a break from typing, but I'll be checking in and writing again later to maybe respond a bit more specifically to the posts here and to let you know how things are going.
Thanks for 'listening' and thanks again for all of your support. It's incredible how much good this is doing me right now, and its taught me that if you're in a pickle, share it. It helps. A great bunch of guys you all are.
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Where is the "Legalize drugs! they're a victimless crime!" crowd???
I wish nash the best of luck kicking his addiction, but the only thing he's a victim of is his own stupid decisions.
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Glad to see you post Nash!
This is your row to hoe so to speak, but I really do wish you'd go to a detox center at least. They can help with the medical side effects of withdrawal. That's YOUR decision though and only you can make it. They say xanax is just as bad or worse than heroine, so man I know what you're going through first hand! I was stupid and tried to do mine cold turkey and I almost died because of it. The siezure changed my life and probably took a few years off of it too. If I had it to do over I would have checked into rehab before I quit. They have meds that can help you quit and keep your mood 'somewhat' stable.
Anyway man glad to see you post, been worried about you all day. 512-372-8218 if you want to talk man I'll be home in about 1.5 hours from now but I'm there all night, call anytime........
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Nash, please see a Doc about your veins, seems you may have early signs of cerebral-vein thrombosis.
Heres a good link to start with regarding withdrawl:
http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/heroin/herowith.htm
And theres help out there WHEN not IF, you need it.
http://www.heroinabuse.net/
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Just saw this thread...
Nash I wish you success. But I wouldn't wait to fail once to go to AA or NA. You've already made your 'coming out' here. You need to do it in front of 'real people' (the more the better) to help you go on day after day. And those people at AA or NA lived or are living what you're going through, they'll be a great support and they'll give you some tips too.
Never been through something like this myself, but I've met this 'community' of yours a few times in my job. Get out of it ASAP.
Keep it up, Mate, this is probably THE fight of your life.
Ripsnort, I once thought you were a decent, honest person....Your background colored quote murdered this illusion I had.
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Thanks for the update Nash, keep it up man! :)
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Keep yer resolve Nash.
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Originally posted by deSelys
Ripsnort, I once thought you were a decent, honest person....Your background colored quote murdered this illusion I had.
Like I could give a rats *** what anyone thinks. If you can't see the joke, then don't comment on it.
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Nash you are hot even with your skinny smack addict posture and complexion. :)
P.S: now you have to turn conservative like Udie did.
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Good luck Nash.
Frodo
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Please update when you feel up to it. It's good to hear that you are still pulling through. :)
PS: Crap, I just realised this means you still managed to kick my bellybutton in the DA, way back when, while pissed. :o
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Nash,
Dont say 'I will go to NA if I fail even once'. You will not fail, not even once, this is too friggin important. Its your whole life man. Yeah its gonna be hard, yeah your gonna feel like a piece of crap, but it wont last forever. You will be clean and have a great life to look forward to. I knew a girl, an old neighbour who thought she could control heroin, shes dead, she was wrong. Just think to yourself, that aint gonna happen to me. Cause it aint. You aint gonna beat it tomorrow, you beat it today and everyday my friend.
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NAsh,
You need to seek professional help, the chances your body could give up because of the break in the addiction's usage pattern is very high. You run the risk of heart attack, seizure, or worse, death. For your own sake, seek a doctor. Lastly, if you reuse after this break, you run a very high risk of an OD related death because of the issues in your brain from the heroin.
Please Nash, go get help, or call your parents.... I pray you will, because if you do not, the chances are we will not get to hear from you in the future.
Take care, and if I can be of help, email me @
dgreen4@triad.rr.com
You can do it, but you need help.
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Thinking about you man. Don't give up.
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Nash,
I want you to face the facts. Call a rehab center and let them know where you live, and what you are doing. You owe it to yourself not to keep this a secret within yourself anymore. You have proved you are strong, and have the will to kick this addiction. But, when you get sick, and your mind is playing tricks on you, you need to have an experienced person to call. This person will not let you go it alone. ALONE is the inner demon within all of us. Please pick up the phone and call a rehab center. Finish the want of your will, you cannot let yourself be fooled. This is a serious decision you have to make. Do it now. You are in my prayers, God's speed.
Thorns
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Like I could give a rats *** what anyone thinks. If you can't see the joke, then don't comment on it.
Bull**** Flag thrown on the play!
You live to impress this board. It's OK to do that, but not to act like you don't give a rat's bellybutton about what anyone thinks....if you didn't we would have never seen your carpeted garage, your picture of NW Mountains that just happen to have your BMW in the foreground, etc, etc, ad naseum.
Rip...you're a blow-hard, gas-bag on this board. I've got no problem with that actually...but don't deny it.
Nash,
Sorry for the hijack. Don't go it alone. Let some professional help know your situation, and stick with it!
Best of luck.
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I’m not much of a praying man but I’ll put in a word for you tonight Nash.
Good luck. Kick its ARSE.
Grip that MOFO by the B’s and let it know who’s in charge.
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Nash, I always believed in the power of prayer. Hour by hour, day by day, month in to months, I know you shall be in many prayer groups.
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Nash,
Words sent to the Man upstairs. Don't give up, don't give in and don't go back. All the best steps are taken moving forward. Talk to the guy in the mirror and convince him to help ya out. As for what most others said, I concur, seek professional help to put this behind you. You have the rest of your life to think about and it all goes one day at a time. My email in\s in my profile, if you want to "talk".
As for creamo and the other dipsticks who love to post crap, just STFU. You really do need to get a life. If drugs are SUCH a good thing, how come it has to hurt someone so much by using them. Life is meant to be lived by FULLY functional people. If you can't do that then get help.
Addiction, to ANYTHING is hardly victimless. Someone is always hurt even if it's only the adict.
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Hey Nash,
There's one more household praying for you man!
I wish my brother had half the balls you did to come out and face this (he's still a "functioning" alchololic, etc. whatever).
Don't back down in the weak times, and keep in touch with us. HANG TIGHT
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Thanks for checking in Nash.
I think any day that you don't check in your going to have a LOT of people worried.
As diverse and divided as this community can be the cream does tend to rise to the top. It shows through loud & clear in this thread. (doesn't mean you don't get the stray fly stuck in it though, Creamo grow some class man)
let me know what I can do to help.
You can lick this but outside help will make it a lot easier.
Best of luck bro
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So this is all true, eh?
Well, Jeebus Cripes! If you fly AH that well when your knee-walking drunk, I'm scared spitless just thinking about how good you'll be when you come back clean.
Life ain't fair...... I never could shoot as well as you when I was either drunk or sober! ;)
Well, during the "bad times" (and there were lots of those) my old ops officer used to say "life is a sh t sandwich. Every day you take another bite. Eat it or starve."
You'll have a rough time of it, no doubt. Stick with it though and you'll choke down this sandwich and maybe get ham and cheese next.
Seems you're handling the responsibility/accountability part of it straight up and honestly. Good sign... I think you'll make it.
I also think the advice to seek pro help is excellent. You are in the deep doo-doo and it'd be smart to call in some wingmen to help you out.
Good luck Nash, and Best Regards.
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and good luck
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Nash - Stop ****ing around and get professional help. Listen to what Bodhi is saying about dependance and the effects withdrawl can have on your system. Aside from that, you need to avoid finding out how easy it is to fall back into the habit. Find a group, call someone who has offered help, etc.
Youd be surprised how many people use this **** - but that doesnt make it ok.
Good luck and best wishes.
Oh, and the usual '**** you' to Creamo. (I should just add that to my sig as a time saver)
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Nash,
I agree wholeheartedly with those recommending the professional help.
THIS*IS*TOO*IMPORTANT!
Good luck.
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day three, get up and type damn you.
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Get all of the help you can find !
Take care friend.
Mike Bowman
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Nash glad to hear you werent just trolling and i wish you the best of lucky my friend and dont be affraid of AA or NA theres a lot of great people there~!:aok
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Nash
I don't know you at all but please get help - real people help. My guess is that addiction hides something you are going to have to deal with after the stuffs out of your system - the drink and drugs are a cover and to confront the next step you need people - real people who know what they are doing and care.
I hope and wish all the best for you - you sound like an itelligent guy - do it right.
If I was religious I'd pray.
Good luck
Sparks
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Self respect is always worth fighting for...........and when you fight to claw back from addiction the world will help you........if you let it.
best of luck Nash...........ask for help..........be true to those who try to help you and most of all be true to yourself.
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Yo Nash, we're still here for you, buddy.
How ya doing today?
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Nash has your number changed? Mind if I give you a jingle?
jwg11@mlode.com if your number has changed.
Lots of good advice here. You need help. Don't try to do this alone.
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Nash I am so sorry to hear this. You have received a lot of good advice here and I don't think I can add any more except to say listen to your friends. We all have your best interests at heart and want you to succeed. I really hope you come through this and will be thinking about you - best of luck.
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Hope you recover, and remember, you ll never get cured, just controlled. When you feel you are cured, you ll fall back right into it.
Buena suerte!
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Nash, Take as long as you need too...
Good luck, Will Hyman
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Coming from a meth addicted, good luck and don't be afraid to talk about it. People find it strange when I start going on and on about it... If I can save one person through some hearing my stories, I feel that I'm doing the right thing.
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Good Luck Nash. you WILL make it :)
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Where are ya man?
Come on...drag your bellybutton to that computer and tell us you are doing okay.
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Wow, it's hard to know what to say. I don't know much about drug addiction - all I can say is good luck. Get some help, Nash - thinking about ya mate.
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It's always safer flying with your squad.
Keep checking in. We all want you to pull through.
It seems a little strange how close I feel to people I only know by the plane they fly and sometimes the sound of their voice. Even though it's just a game, (there I've said it) flying together, teamwork and just having fun over the years has forged some remarkable bonds.
It really hurts when one of us is in trouble.
I'll be looking for you Nash. I'll be watching this post in the meantime.
Killjoy
Flying Zoo
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C'mon Nash, check in mate, were gettin a lil jumpy with no word.
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Hope you're OK, Nash..... thinking of you.... :(
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(http://modena.intergate.ca/personal/cwharton/sbm/thanks3.jpg)
Still alive and kicking (and screaming and pulling my hair out).
Here's for your support (got around to finishing up one of my songs):BeatDownWastedStrungOutSpent (http://modena.intergate.ca/personal/cwharton/songs/beatdownwastedstrungoutspent.mp3)
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wtg man, hang in there!:aok
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:aok :aok :aok :aok :aok :aok
Dont give in Nash!
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Good song Nash!
What kind of recording setup do you have? Who's doing the drums?
Sounds good :)
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just listend to it, great song man!:aok
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Just listened to it again: there's some clever, subtle and cool production in that tune.
Again, nice job Nash!
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He lives!
WTFG man! Hang in there..
Great tune too... :aok
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Kick this ****ing **** nash, you have showed talent in so numerous ways i could not...
I have NO doubt you wil kick this ****...
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I dont even know you Nash but my family and I are praying for you.
As I read this thread, more than once I had to wipe the tears from my eyes, real concern from all of you for someone most of you have never and will most likely not ever meet is a real tear jerker for me.
Nash post for us everyday just so we know you are still kicking out there :)
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fediddlein awesome song man. You got any more like that? You should get an album together, i'd buy it. Geez man you touch that **** again and ill personally come over there and kick your butt real frikkin hard.
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Ooh look the content filter blocked out the 'sh' word :D First for me:)
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Good to see you Nash.... bit late now for me to listen to your song, but I will make a point of doing so first thing in the morning. Hang in there! ;)
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that is some amazing artwork :eek:
is that you singing? talented!
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When you get to feeling better I'd like to talk to you about the recording :)
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You are the man! Hang tough.
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Nash,
Great work! You can make it! Don't give up! We're listening.
Thorns
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:)
I was thinking about you for the last two days. I know for a fact that people are praying for you. If you want help... it's out there. Heck, no shame in using resources available. Heck, (some) ;) of the folks here in the board are a great resource too. :)
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lol, dunno how many time ive playd that song tonight, know for sure id buy it!:aok
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Nash,
I don't know what to say, man.
You've got so much talent. Great song. Wow.
I really am glad that you're making progress against your demons (hopefully).
I really hope you'll seek professional help as you're way too
valuable to lose. This is just too important. You're too important.
The best of luck to you sir ~S~!
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NASH 2 WORDS:
STRUCTURED
PROGRAM
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Awesome Nash
Hang in there bro.
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Keep at it Nash ... your better then the demon ....
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Originally posted by Nash
This pic should kill two birds with one stone... putting the "trolling" questions to rest I hope, and at the same time answering Creamo's post in language that he can understand. :lol
Yegads tho. Who would troll about something like this? Weird. But nah... I laughed when I read your reply Creamo... It was an incredibly stupid thing to do. I didn't do this "over a girl" though, as if I needed to pick up a heroin habit in order to win her over or something absurd like that. She did it, I tried it out, and that's pretty much it. And the money...yeah that does suck but I made it when I wasn't all there.
Don't hang your fukup on me. I made a simple observation. It was a goof. It meant zilch to me at the time, now it does. Your a tard.
Ok, after you complete your next studio song, and complete your next photoshop picture in picture flipping me off post, crawl to the keyboard Nash, please, update us, tell us your alive?
Hell, you finished a song, (I liked it very much) did more than I could do in 3 months of Photoshop training to get your point across to me, and then did a 190 "Thank You" pictorial, all the while ?
I always liked you, but damn. I'm not on the pity party. If you get any more near death, please do the tracers for AH2. They look crappy.
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[EDIT] editted out because upon further reflection the above statement actually looks like some sort of sick apology from Creamo.
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Relax, Creamo. Maybe he was goofing back?
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jeeezus, i dont understand people like you creamo, poor guy made a mistake, everyone makes mistakes, some bigger than others, no ones on a pity trip, if your not that heartless put one of your close friends in his shoes, are you just gonna sit there and say, Heh, was your **** up man later, or you gonna try and help em out, i bet because of all these words of truthful honest encourgement Nash is doing alot better, he knows hes got full support from the majority of the community in kicking this ****, dont beat someone down when their already at their lowest.:( although i agree that looks like some sort of a sorry, just in a wierd form.:rolleyes: oh and btw i do agree on one thing with Creamo, Nash do them damn tracers for AH2, they could use some work.:aok
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creamo,
I don't see what the big problem is or where your original post was comming from.
he never asked for help from you. just stated his situation, blamed no-one else for it, and stated what he intended to do about it.
many of us chose to leave a few words of suport, or take a second for a prayer, nobody asked that you do that.
you just chose the oportumnity to take a cheap shot when all you really had to do was resist the urge to be a dick and let this thread go by without a coment from you.
I've never had any kind of problem with you before but I find your first post pretty low and well deserving of the big FU pic (in the very least) I find it suprising that you are somehow now offended when you got the very responce you where expecting (or should have been expecting)
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Pity party turns nasty! News at 11!
Oh well... at least this whole thing added some drama to the O'Club. I guess Nash is good for something after all.
MiniD
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Originally posted by capt. apathy
creamo,
I don't see what the big problem is or where your original post was comming from.
he never asked for help from you. just stated his situation, blamed no-one else for it, and stated what he intended to do about it.
many of us chose to leave a few words of suport, or take a second for a prayer, nobody asked that you do that.
you just chose the oportumnity to take a cheap shot when all you really had to do was resist the urge to be a dick and let this thread go by without a coment from you.
I've never had any kind of problem with you before but I find your first post pretty low and well deserving of the big FU pic (in the very least) I find it suprising that you are somehow now offended when you got the very responce you where expecting (or should have been expecting)
Pretty standard form for creamtard. was about the same reaction he had to my meltdown last year. He'll get his one day, he'll be down and out and nobody will give a crap because he's a salamander and we'll laugh....
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I never really saw it as pity anyway. I have respect for a man who realizes he's made a mistake and takes it on himself to fix it.
a much different kind of guy than one who decides to do rehab to lower his sentence. or only after his housekeeper/suplyer rats him out.
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Originally posted by Udie
Pretty standard form for creamtard. was about the same reaction he had to my meltdown last year. He'll get his one day, he'll be down and out and nobody will give a crap because he's a salamander and we'll laugh....
Nash has 200 times your talent, I just noted he was a fool to blow 60 Grand. Several dipfools *****piled in, it snowballed. He got bent, I responded accordingly.
Your just a broke man. In all counts. Lets not discuss it.
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Originally posted by capt. apathy
I never really saw it as pity anyway. I have respect for a man who realizes he's made a mistake and takes it on himself to fix it.
a much different kind of guy than one who decides to do rehab to lower his sentence. or only after his housekeeper/suplyer rats him out.
WOW! EXCELLENT RUSH LIMBAU DIG! Does this mean people have to apologize to Rip for bringing politics into this thread?
You really don't know the person, you really don't know if they were using heroin, you really don't know if they're actually trying to recover or not, and you really don't know anything about heroin addiction. But hell... let's all give advice and kudos whenever he says he's done something positive. If you work it right, he can use the positive high he gets from the BBS as a substitute for heroin!
It's not cool that someone is sharing this with a bunch of virtual strangers. It's not neeto that you get to give completely uninformed (either in regards to the recipient or advisor) advice to someone trying to kick the monkey. It's not wonderfull that the O'Club gets to share this experience with Nash.
MiniD
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Originally posted by Creamo
Nash has 200 times your talent, I just noted he was a fool to blow 60 Grand. Several dipfools *****piled in, it snowballed. He got bent, I responded accordingly.
Your just a broke man. In all counts. Lets not discuss it.
Heheh broke? na, flawed maybe yeah. At least I'm working on my flaws. Talent? yeah nash has obviously got alot of it. You've got no clue how much or little I've got. Can't remember seeing you at any of my gigs or at the studio's I've recorded at. As a matter of fact I can't remember much from you but the kind of crap you've spewed in this thread. You're such a freakin jerk you had to order your wife from a mail catalog because all the American chicks no better than to even be seen with an assclown like yourself.
good day sir!
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Damn Nash, after listening to a few of these guys, I think it's safe to say your problems are pretty small by comparison. Say a prayer for these guys, willya? I sure did.
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Agreed. But 3D trees might be a stretch for him.
Baby steps.
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Originally posted by Mini D
WOW! EXCELLENT RUSH LIMBAU DIG! Does this mean people have to apologize to Rip for bringing politics into this thread?
You really don't know the person, you really don't know if they were using heroin, you really don't know if they're actually trying to recover or not, and you really don't know anything about heroin addiction. But hell... let's all give advice and kudos whenever he says he's done something positive. If you work it right, he can use the positive high he gets from the BBS as a substitute for heroin!
It's not cool that someone is sharing this with a bunch of virtual strangers. It's not neeto that you get to give completely uninformed (either in regards to the recipient or advisor) advice to someone trying to kick the monkey. It's not wonderfull that the O'Club gets to share this experience with Nash.
MiniD
Most of the advice in this thread is the exact same advice I had given to me and saw given to herroine addicts in rehab last december. I've known Nash online long enough to know that he doesn't troll like this. I've known enough H addicts to know that the arm in that pic has had needles in it ;)
and the O'club can be a wonderful place to come for support. I came here durring my melt down and got a lot of good supportive emails from most in here. Got the same reaction out of creamo as this thread, but he's an stunninghunk so it was expected and easily ignored at the time. Hell even Animal gave me sort of supportive words when I was 'in the ****'
Creamo's just a lame human being, not that it matters though a definitive FDB.....
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LOL Creamo, you are a bastard. Don't listen to Udie tho', when you're down and out I'll care about you and love you...and fondle your wife. Take care Nash, I still think you should go to a clinic, but you're the one who's got to deal with this **** so good luck. Oh, and this thread needs the psychadellic uterus map pic - I tried to find it but had no luck!
PS...Udie, in case you were wondering - yes, you do look like an idiot critisizing Creamo's marriage you shamu cassinova you.
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wow.
that song is very very cool.
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I see no problem with the mail order bride thing, except it wasn't a catalog. That would infer shipping and extra costs. It was an internet site and a $1 charge for the address.
People make it seem like a Sears & Robuck order. It wasn't. They have nothing for $1. Ok, maybe a votive candle replacment, but usually expensive lawn tractors capable of using ground-engaging attachments and a 5 gal. fuel tank for fewer stops while mowing.
Its nothing like that.
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Creamo, I just want to know if she came accessorized or you had to buy the cheerleader outfit aftermarket. :D
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Ebay.
Was a Jr. High fire sale.
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That's cool udie... because second hand information is the best. So is internet diagnosis and prognosis. That's why doctors don't even have to see patients anymore... they just set up internet BBSs.
I'm not thrilled that anyone is diagnosed with an illness. I'm not thrilled when people confess an addiction. I just don't believe this is the place where that person needs to be going to seek help. And I don't believe in the insta championing of someone based solely on what they write you about themselves... especially in a circumstance like this. Saying what people want to hear to make them feel better might or might not be helpfull in situations like this. But... the warm fuzzies abound because that's the only way people can qualify anything they're saying here. Nobody knows if what they are saying is helping or hurting the situation, because everyone is convinced that listening to someone that just admitted they were going through heroin withdrawl is a prudent thing to do.
And the extra plus... there's no lack of people willing to throw their own advice in on the situation.
It's not a nash dig nor an Udie dig. The internet is not the place to seek social and psychological help. This is not the world you walk around in... its the one you escape to.
MiniD
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Your wife can fit in a Junior High cheerleader outfit? You are a lucky man Creamo.
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Creamo and Co. Why dont you just STFU and go thrash another thread. In case you hadnt noticed this is the one where people who care what happens to nash hang out. Go inflate your ego elsewhere.
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If you care anymore he's going to go #1 on the pop billboards for best new artist, win a Fark.com Photoshop contest for the FU Creamo goof, have a Hallmark deal for the History Channel graphical thankyou cards, and insult me till I pee myself while he's shivering in the corner.
My ego isn't in question. I'm wondering when he will do the next IL-2 Pacific Theater for Christs sake. I wish I had his talent in these hard times.
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Nash, I wish you nothing but the best, but if you think you are going to kick it without getting involved in a structured program, you are in for a bad time. You need to get in touch with a doctor as well as NA. If you don't do these things, and you end up relapsing, I WILL say I told you so. You need to trust guys like Lazs - they have been there, done that, got the t-shirt. Please make your next post a report on your contacts with medical help and structured treatment. Spend your time doing that instead of spending it producing (admittedly excellent) works of art which will only delay your relapse slightly.
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Well if we're lucky maybe DjV and Creamo will donate their both kidneys to people in need.
Sooner the better :)
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Nash You've taken first steps and that's how everything beguns.
It's up to you how you continue from that but it sure would be a sad day to see such a talent guy drift away.
Stay with us and finish more of your songs; there's lots of crappier songs in top-10...
Good luck to you and I hope you can find strenght you're needing right now.
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Well maybe Creamo could keep one of his kidneys.... :)
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I think Creamo and MiniD were pointing out just how meaningless it is for us to say nice things to Nash. The only thing that's going to help Nash is getting in touch with an MD and NA or similar. All the rest of the stuff in this thread is pure BS and does nothing to help him. Most of you are just reinforcing stupid behavior.
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I now what to bear Funks love child!
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Oh no you di-ent! Keep yo hands off ma man you skanky beeyatch! :mad:
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Originally posted by FUNKED1
I think Creamo and MiniD were pointing out just how meaningless it is for us to say nice things to Nash. The only thing that's going to help Nash is getting in touch with an MD and NA or similar. All the rest of the stuff in this thread is pure BS and does nothing to help him. Most of you are just reinforcing stupid behavior.
I think that's being a tad bit cynical, don't you? Some of us actually know Nash professionally and/or personally, and have a genuine concern for his well-being.
We all know that he needs to get professional help, but what's wrong with trying to show the man a little respect and encouragement?
At least he knows that there are people out here in the world who care about him.
And I don't agree with Mini-D's assessment that this BBS is nothing but an escape from reality. These are real people posting real thoughts and sharing real experiences. Sure, we have our share of worthless trifle day in and day out, and our share of troll-meisters, but once in a while there is a meaningful thread that means something to someone.
I hope Nash goes in immediately for professional treatment, but that's not going to stop me from letting him know I'm still here for him if he needs someone to talk to, or just to show him someone cares.
Sentimental? Perhaps, but I'm a sentimental kind of guy. Deal with it.
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Not real responses banana... contrived ones. Always. Anyone that says otherwise is kidding themselves.
This world is not real. These arguments are not real. This advice is completely worthless in the real world.
MiniD
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I couldn't disagree more.
I'm not naiive enough to believe that everyone who posts on this BBS are being their true selves all the time, but I do believe that a great majority of people here write out their real beliefs and thoughts.
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What does that have to do with this situation banana? What does that really have to do with anything.
Put all of your beliefs into words banana. Put all of your thoughts into words. Do it without trying to make yourself look just a little more inteligent or a little more thoughtfull to those that don't know you. Really... give it a try.
You show people on the internet only the things you chose to show them. They are doing the same for you. That is not knowing each other. That is the difference between reality and the net... the ability to hide things that you couldn't otherwise.
You can get a feel for people and their beliefs. Sometimes its based on what they write, or what they don't write. But it is not the same as knowing someone. To imply otherwise is downright silly. To think you know someone enough through internet contact to help him through an attempt to quit heroin is downright dangerous.
MiniD
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Originally posted by FUNKED1
I think Creamo and MiniD were pointing out just how meaningless it is for us to say nice things to Nash. The only thing that's going to help Nash is getting in touch with an MD and NA or similar. All the rest of the stuff in this thread is pure BS and does nothing to help him. Most of you are just reinforcing stupid behavior.
Yes I agree that professional help is a must. However, telling the guy that we genuinely care what happens to him can only help. Why do we care you might ask? Many people posting here never spoke to nash before. We care because of what nash has done for this comminity, we care because we can see such talent and such potential, we care because another human being, read that again, a human being with feelings, with flesh and blood is in trouble. All the detractors are doing is trying to show that they're cleverer than the rest of us. This is someones life, not an excuse for people who couldnt give a rats prettythang about nash to look clever.
Totally disgusted. (BTW not aimed at you Funked:)
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Originally posted by banana
I think that's being a tad bit cynical, don't you?
Pragmatic.
Summary of this thread as seen by me.
Nash: I have a possibly fatal medical condition and am trying a half-assed cure with 0.1% chance of success.
Everybody: Blah blah we love you, get well.
Creamo and MiniD: You idiot, don't listen to them, get some real help.
Everybody: You meanies! Happy thoughts and smileys and peace and love and bunny rabbits will cure him!
Me: WTF???????????
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Wow Nash, see how destructive drugs are?
This flamewar is one of the consequences of the heroin addiction you had.
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Originally posted by Mini D
Not real responses banana... contrived ones. Always. Anyone that says otherwise is kidding themselves.
This world is not real. These arguments are not real. This advice is completely worthless in the real world.
MiniD
Did you contrive that response?
Get a clue Mini-D and stay out of this thread please.
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Originally posted by Mini D
You show people on the internet only the things you chose to show them. They are doing the same for you. That is not knowing each other. That is the difference between reality and the net... the ability to hide things that you couldn't otherwise.
You can get a feel for people and their beliefs. Sometimes its based on what they write, or what they don't write. But it is not the same as knowing someone. To imply otherwise is downright silly.
MiniD
Actually, I think people reveal more of themselves here than they do in RL. I figured out a long time ago that all people put up a facade. Some are bigger and fancier than others, but everyone is a facade. You see a real person, talk to a real person, but you never really know what that persons thinking. You never know what they hide. What they think, but are to afraid of rejection to actually say or do.
On the internet, they put up a facade in a name or handle. Then they generally let you know what they're about. Not everything mind you. Something are just to much for even here.
Everyone hides something, some hide everything.
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I like the internet because I can hide the fact that I sit around the house in women's undergarments.
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Originally posted by FUNKED1
Summary of this thread as seen by me.
Nash: I have a possibly fatal medical condition and am trying a half-assed cure with 0.1% chance of success.
Everybody: Blah blah we love you, get well.
Creamo and MiniD: You idiot, don't listen to them, get some real help.
Everybody: You meanies! Happy thoughts and smileys and peace and love and bunny rabbits will cure him!
Me: WTF???????????
What Utter BS.
Maybe More Like:
Nash: I'm ill.
Everybody: You dumb twit, get some help and remember were here for you if you need to offload cause we care.
Creamo etc: Dont listen to them were much cleverer
Me: My opinion isnt worth a damn.
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Originally posted by NUKE
Did you contrive that response?
Get a clue Mini-D and stay out of this thread please.
Tell me, who should stay in?
Originally posted by Lizard3
Actually, I think people reveal more of themselves here than they do in RL. I figured out a long time ago that all people put up a facade. Some are bigger and fancier than others, but everyone is a facade. You see a real person, talk to a real person, but you never really know what that persons thinking. You never know what they hide. What they think, but are to afraid of rejection to actually say or do.
On the internet, they put up a facade in a name or handle. Then they generally let you know what they're about. Not everything mind you. Something are just to much for even here.
Everyone hides something, some hide everything.
I think its the contrary. In real life, you can look at someone in the eyes.
You can hear their tone of voice and body movement.
In here people can just write and post pictures to make themselves seem like what they want to be.
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Miniman and Creamtard have a point, regardless of the 'tactful' delivery method. Although, I think they are the only two having trouble seperating real medical advise from the support and/or motivation one sees in this thread.
Too bad it had to turn into a childish pissing contest.
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Everyone knows that a Flight-Sim BBS is the best place EVAH for getting GREAT advice!
Look no further than Mia's love-life for proof!
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Originally posted by Lizard3
Actually, I think people reveal more of themselves here than they do in RL. I figured out a long time ago that all people put up a facade. Some are bigger and fancier than others, but everyone is a facade. You see a real person, talk to a real person, but you never really know what that persons thinking. You never know what they hide. What they think, but are to afraid of rejection to actually say or do.
On the internet, they put up a facade in a name or handle. Then they generally let you know what they're about. Not everything mind you. Something are just to much for even here.
Everyone hides something, some hide everything.
Thats why everyone feels a bit akward first day of a con. Then they get drunk and its...like...all ok man:D Thats why some people NEVER show up to cons.
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Originally posted by Saurdaukar
Miniman and Creamtard have a point, regardless of the 'tactful' delivery method. Although, I think they are the only two having trouble seperating real medical advise from the support and/or motivation one sees in this thread.
Too bad it had to turn into a childish pissing contest.
Yah... you don't say saur.
We are the only two not kidding ourselves into thinking we are actually helping.
The "cry for help" threads are always like this. A cry for help to people who only think they can. Its the curse of the internet... everyone is always ready with their pre-defined advice.
Me... I hope everything turns out OK for Nash. And I'll remember that nobody suggested he just try to cut back on the heroin since its really just a victimless crime.
MiniD
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Originally posted by Mini D
Pity party turns nasty! News at 11!
Oh well... at least this whole thing added some drama to the O'Club. I guess Nash is good for something after all.
MiniD
This sums it up for me Mini D
You didn't add anything positive to this thread.
Me? All I said was get help and good luck. I also said good song.
What you have done is piss on everyone for just trying to send best wishes to Nash.
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I'm sorry if I have brought negativity into this otherwise positive experience for everyone else in the community.
Maybe I should have tried to express my romantic experiences or notions on the subject instead?
Well... at least nobody posted poetry in this one.
MiniD
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Originally posted by Mini D
I'm sorry if I have brought negativity into this otherwise positive experience for everyone else in the community.
Maybe I should have tried to express my romantic experiences or notions on the subject instead?
Well... at least nobody posted poetry in this one.
MiniD
You are a true moron. Has anyone here glorified a heroin addiction? The people here mostly have just responded with acknowlegdment of his problem and good luck, get help response. But not you. You have to piss on everyone.
You dismiss out of hand the internet as being a viable means of communication of ones thoughts or personality. How do you feel about written letters?
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Originally posted by Mini D
Well... at least nobody posted poetry in this one.
MiniD
Please get better Nash
Winter is here, dark and cold
Spring will be here soon
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Heyas Nash....
Just found this thread....I want to tell ya something.
You're not alone man:)
You have mine and my families prayers.....like Toad said, ham and cheese is next.
Godspeed and keep checkin in with all of us.
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Nash...speak to us....let us all know you are still alive out there :)
Just dont pay any attn to the 2 people who are acting like jerks :)
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I think most of you TARDs are missing the point hes making here. The first few step in a 12 step program(NA or AA) is admiting to your higher power that you are powerless to the effects of (what ever it is) and to another human being, as well as admiting your wrongs to those who it wll not hurt.
And it for sure isnt hurting you fools but hes admiting his problem which for alot of people is very very very hard to do! let that man take back his life and keep moving forward your negativity isnt helping anyone except the other caring members of this community realize what arse holes you are..........
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Its intersting when people are crying out for help, but can't find the nerve to start thier own thread.
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Mini D you are lucky. I know of someone who was put on probation for saying "it's just a cat" in a thread someone started to grieve the loss of their cat.
What you have done is far worse.
of course that's just something someone posted on the internet, so it means nothing
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You know how much I care about Nash? Enough to keep checking on here to see if there is any news..... even late last night before I went to bed, first thing this morning when I got up and again at lunchtime, and several times since getting home this evening. I know I've never met him in real life, but have worked with him in the CM Team and I have a great deal of respect for him. I was very concerned to hear of his problems and sincerely hope he makes a complete recovery.
Take care, Nash, I'm still thinking of you.
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Originally posted by Animal
I think its the contrary. In real life, you can look at someone in the eyes.
You can hear their tone of voice and body movement.
Animal is the "human whisperer"
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LOL!
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I haven't let anyone in on my little secret, and seeing the responses here makes things... much more real. I don't know how I've gotten away with this for so long, with practically nobody (but you guys now) knowing the extent of it... or even close to it.
Nash, this thread is not about coming clean. This is a half-assed measure on your part to make you feel like you have a handle on your addiction. You don't. Quit ****ing around and call your family and/or friends. Tell them what you have posted here and ask them for help.
You well wishers that keep coming back to this thread to support Nash are co-dependent jerkoffs that are helping him to avoid really confronting his addiction.
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Originally posted by boxboy28
I think most of you TARDs are missing the point hes making here. The first few step in a 12 step program(NA or AA) is admiting to your higher power that you are powerless to the effects of (what ever it is) and to another human being, as well as admiting your wrongs to those who it wll not hurt.
And it for sure isnt hurting you fools but hes admiting his problem which for alot of people is very very very hard to do! let that man take back his life and keep moving forward your negativity isnt helping anyone except the other caring members of this community realize what arse holes you are..........
LOL! classic. Except... he's not in a 12 step program and he's admitting his problems to nameless faceless virtual strangers. He even says he hasn't told anyone he knows.
This is escapism and hiding from the REAL problem.
MiniD
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Mini d,
First, you don't speak for me, not now and not in the past. Please don't patronize people by saying everything is contrived. You have no clue about other people here and your generalization is just a rationalization for your ill mannered posting. By saying it's all contrived you try to make it unimportant and meaningless. Perhaps for you the things you say in life are meaningless, don't think you speak for others however.
As to the tripe about it being a victimless crime. I suppose you have never dealt with an addicted person. They themselves are the first victim. Virtually all the people around them can be affected by that addiction. Hardly victimless, but then it's another rationalization for you to spew. :rolleyes:
Nash HAS been encouraged to get help. The fact of the matter is, for ANY help to work the addict HAS to WANT to kick the addiction and they need all the encouragement they can get. Treatment when involuntary is hardly successful. If you can't bother to lend an encouraging word then just pass the threads by and don't post anything.
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Originally posted by Lance
Nash, this thread is not about coming clean. This is a half-assed measure on your part to make you feel like you have a handle on your addiction. You don't. Quit ****ing around and call your family and/or friends. Tell them what you have posted here and ask them for help.
You well wishers that keep coming back to this thread to support Nash are co-dependent jerkoffs that are helping him to avoid really confronting his addiction.
so are you a well wisher?
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Originally posted by Lance
Nash, this thread is not about coming clean. This is a half-assed measure on your part to make you feel like you have a handle on your addiction. You don't. Quit ****ing around and call your family and/or friends. Tell them what you have posted here and ask them for help.
You well wishers that keep coming back to this thread to support Nash are co-dependent jerkoffs that are helping him to avoid really confronting his addiction.
I actually have to reply again, because you seem so damn stupid.
Are you saying that everyone that has said Nash should seek help and wished him well are co-dependant jerkoffs? What about you? Is your advice better? what a freakin moron you are.
God forbid someone posts in support of Nash.
Instead I guess it's better to come here and bash people that support Nash.
IDIOT
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No, Nuke, it's cooler if you start the crowd chanting, "Jump! Jump! Jump!"
Damn.
Can't even post a comment of support without getting express written permission. There should be a fricken' form or somethin' we could fill out in advance.
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The internet also allows me to seem normal while in reality I pour cheerios down my pants and put fruit loops in my shoes so that atleast the birds and squirrels will follow me around for a little while. It comforts me to know that something actually needs me, even if it is only until my trail of delectable cereals has been consumed.
-SW
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Confessing here really is nothing. Somehow, I think that this addict knows that.
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It is entirely possible to wish someone well and not offer advice on their particular issue. It is also possible to give a damn about someone based upon a corespondence instead of a face to face meeting. Sometimes people can be too cynical.
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This DRUG ADDICT named "Nash" has to care. Take that in the right way MT. :)
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Good luck Nash, you are gonna need it.
Though I think posting your admission here was probably a fairly big step to take, these guys are right, we arent 'real'.
When you are lying in a pool of your own vomit in the corner, shivering, sweating, and hoping your heart keeps on ticking, none of us are any good to you at all, all the best wishes and prayers in the world are no good to you in that situation, you need a real live person who cares, close by.
Talk to your family, friends, GP....whoever, just talk to them, let them know what is going on in your world, maybe they can then help out in some way.
Having said that, I too wish you the best.
Junkies discust me, ( reminds me too much of how weak and pathetic I once was too) , but ex-junkies have nothing but my respect. Its a long, hard road, and only you can walk it, there are no shortcuts, and no one will pick you up and give you a lift, but if you have what it takes to get past the **** sandwich turnoff, ham and cheese will be waiting when you reach the end.
Once again, good luck my friend, hope to see you at the other end of your road.
Blue
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Wouldn't it be nice if there was someplace you could deal with your personal shortcomings online? Problem is, it would be a screw job. These things are done face to face.
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Nuke, with all due respect, pull your head out of your anus. Cyber hugs and three cheers are nice when someone stumbles and needs a pick me up, but that is not what this is. We are talking about someone with a heroin addiction that is avoiding getting real, serious help for it. Moral support for Nash's chosen course will not help him kick heroin, it will help him to stay addicted.
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My take on all this:
Fact 1: He needs REAL WORLD, REAL LIFE HELP to survive this condition
Fact 2: The AH BBS is in no way a substitute for Fact 1
Fact 3: Good wishes and knowing people care for Nash don't do him any wrong. No one told him this would cure him, we are just saying that he better get help, and that he has our full support.
Fact 4: It'll take less than 3 replies to read something that questions the intentions or validity of this post.
Carry on...
Daniel
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For all you people know, Nash could be sitting at home right now with a needle in his arm. Telling him he is a good guy and **** ain't going to help him do anyhting but continue his present course of action. He needs help.
Do I hope he is able to beat the habit? Of course, I wouldn't wish what my brother went through on anyone. Do I think he is doing the right thing? Hell no.
He is destined to fail unless he gets some help. I won't be one to tell him that he is doing well. I think he is ****ing stupid. Hopefully he proves me wrong and he is smart and gets help.
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Seems like most people here arrive at the same conclusion.
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Does anyone think it would be a good idea to send this thread to Nash's parents?
eskimo
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Nash kick this ****,
please. :confused:
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Nash hows it hangin bro? Let us know dude.
BTW I played your track for some guys at work today. They couldnt beleive that this wasnt some million dollar recording by some big shot band.
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I don't need anyone's permission to wish someone well. I don't appreciate the contention it is insincere, and I highly suspect the people saying such are overcompensating for some perceived shortcoming.
Hey! I'm an amatuer psychologist now, too!
Here's a hearty STFU to the FDB's.
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Kieran,
We already know that you are morally superior. You don't have to try to prove it anymore.
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Originally posted by NUKE
Mini D you are lucky. I know of someone who was put on probation for saying "it's just a cat" in a thread someone started to grieve the loss of their cat.
What you have done is far worse.
of course that's just something someone posted on the internet, so it means nothing
I remember saying something to that effect about someones dog dying - didnt get probation though - maybe because I apologized three posts later. Forget who is was but I seem to recall there being a reason I was an ass.
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I won't get into my background, but I think I'm probably more qualified in this area than 99% of the posters on this BBS. This guy needs to get REAL help. The best thing you can do is push him towards that. Heroin addiction is serious watermelon and going cold turkey outside of a structured program is not the smartest course of action.
That's my 2 cents, carry on.
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I have limited experience with this sort of stuff, I've only had to bury one friend from drug abuse. He was only 19 and one of the most intelligent and happy people I knew. Almost 3 years ago to the day as chance would have it. He ended up hanging himself presumably because it all became too much.
The worst thing was sitting through the coroners inquest with his parents and family listening to all the **** that was floating around in his blood. I never ever ever want to have to do that again.
To be honest think your a complete avacado for even considering doing the evil H in the first place. But you've admitted you have a problem and I suppose that’s a good first step and worthy of some praise. So now that’s out of the way the next step of telling a real person, like a doctor, shouldn't be too hard. Stop pissing about and go and do it.
Gatso
btw. The song you linked is very good.
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I suggest anyone who knows Nash, where he lives, and his phone number, notify someone at the nearest rehab clinic, let them know what's going on, and have them contact Nash in person. Invading Nash's privacy is something I would normally never want to do, but his well being is the top priority now, and he needs someone who can help him. I am a Grandfather, and I want Nash to enjoy the rest of his life, and don't really care if I upset his feelings at this point. It's time for the real people to step up now. I hope all agree to the point someone will have the brains to make the call.
Respectfully,
Thorns
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Whoah... slow down. And stop killing eachother. :)
Everything's cool (as can be under the circumstances). I have no time to post right now, but should be able to a bit later. Your concern truly *is* appreciated... and truly *does* help. I'll bring you up-to-date asap.
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Nash, you really should have someone there with you at all times if you don't allready, don't want anything happening to a fellow virtual pilot... And God Speed nash!
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Originally posted by Furious
Kieran,
We already know that you are morally superior. You don't have to try to prove it anymore.
You know what'd be nice? To be able to say something like, I dunno, "Good luck, Nash, I'll be praying for you" without an ******* berating me for it. Moral superiority? Pfft.
Didn't know you were an FDB wannabe. Does explain a lot, though.
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Man, those FDBs are jerks.
And more for Nash...it'll never get old:
http://fury.com/mirror/badger.html
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Furry-us is a BasTard, not a wannabee.
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Jeez Kieran, I thought you were a nice person. Doesn't god tell you to love everyone?
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Hang on Nash, keep us infomed daily if possible and go get professional help!
To MiniD and the like:
Please have the decency to continue the flame war into another thread...
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Nash,Good luck to you..If you are feeling really down try listening to Stevie Ray Vaughn's "In Step" CD...It was recorded after he cleaned up and the lyrics are the truth man.
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Nash, you CAN kick this all by yourself IF you really want to. It's all about what you want to do. Going to rehab is fine if you need people to tell you drugs are bad and keep them away from you. If you want this bad enough you can do it all by yourself. The reason so many people go back to using after rehab is they never wanted to quit in the first place. I had a meth addiction and kicked it when I decided it wasn't what I wanted. People who say heroin is more addictive than meth, never did meth. If you make up your mind that you don't like the toejam, that's the biggest step to kicking it. Bottom line is nobody will make you quit, except you. Good Luck, Bro!
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Good to hear you are doing okay Nash.
Keep the updates coming and PLEASE ignore some of the stuff being thrown around in here....
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Originally posted by Furious
Jeez Kieran, I thought you were a nice person. Doesn't god tell you to love everyone?
Yeah, I was such a mean guy I said "Good luck Nash, said a prayer for you." Then the nice choir boys from the FDB's informed us evil well-wishers we were stupid to do so, and insincere.
Anyway.... if you're acting like an *******, there's no reason I can't point it out. I'll tell you this though... the wrong guy got banned here yesterday. Two of your squad were clearly the antagonizers and are posting away. That's bull.
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I don't think that it is all that helpful to do anything but point the guy toward proffessional (in person) help.
When I went to AA I told my sad tale of ruin and hoplessness in great detail to a sympathetic group of older guys and women and they.... well.... they laughed their bellybutton off... They really thought I had a pretty funny story... they would be amused by nash blowing 60 grand and confessing on the internet.
I thought.... "well... this isn't what I had expected..." one of they guys said "could be worse... you could have a doctor tell ya that you have 6 months to live".. I think he died 5 months latter.
They were all taking bets on weather I would make it or not... smart money was about 8 to 1 that I wouldn't.... I was so pissed.... I recovered to spite em....
I got more help, and of the kind I needed than I would ever have thought possible from AA... Your experiance could be different... I seen those whose was. People died cause they didn't get it.
people lived cause they got it.
lazs
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Originally posted by Kieran
Yeah, I was such a mean guy I said "Good luck Nash, said a prayer for you." Then the nice choir boys from the FDB's informed us evil well-wishers we were stupid to do so, and insincere.
Anyway.... if you're acting like an *******, there's no reason I can't point it out. I'll tell you this though... the wrong guy got banned here yesterday. Two of your squad were clearly the antagonizers and are posting away. That's bull.
Which thread were you reading that had the innocent masses being assaulted by Creamy & Mini-dork? The crap has been flung in both directions. And if you're referring to Udie, he checked himself out voluntarily.
Nash - Find a drug treatment clinic, it does a body good. Hell, at least look for an NA group.
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...any news from Nash?? His latest post seems to be in this thread.
Or is he already forgotten?
Nash keep us updated pls. And tell us you finally went to see at least a doctor.
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why don't you e-mail him and ask him yourself?
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DOH never thought about looking into his sig.
I'll do it right now.
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Goodluck Nash...
1K0N
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Nash, good luck, I am pulling for you.
Everyone here is right though about you getting into rehab. Getting clean for the moment isn't beating this thing. I know the nature of these drugs, use them everyday in my job (I am an Intensive Care Unit Nurse for the Army) and I know the negative side effects of these drugs. I have also known quite a few health care givers that have gotten hooked on these things.
Support from friends and family is important to the rehab of an addict. Few people can get past this without outside help, the streets are littered with addicts without a support structure. As screwed up as a flight sim message board can be it is better than nothing.
Nash, please get into some kind of rehab, there will be people there who can check up on you regularly. Don't think that this is a controllable addiction, it isn't. The support groups in NA has people who have gone through what you are going through, they know the addiction, they know the cravings, they know what it is like to 'fall off the wagon'. Very few of us here do, I don't, so all we can offer is moral support. While that is better than nothing it ultimately isn't much and people with a background in this will do more to get you clean than anything else.
Pulling for you bud.
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Originally posted by lazs2
I don't think that it is all that helpful to do anything but point the guy toward proffessional (in person) help.
When I went to AA I told my sad tale of ruin and hoplessness in great detail to a sympathetic group of older guys and women and they.... well.... they laughed their bellybutton off... They really thought I had a pretty funny story... they would be amused by nash blowing 60 grand and confessing on the internet.
I thought.... "well... this isn't what I had expected..." one of they guys said "could be worse... you could have a doctor tell ya that you have 6 months to live".. I think he died 5 months latter.
They were all taking bets on weather I would make it or not... smart money was about 8 to 1 that I wouldn't.... I was so pissed.... I recovered to spite em....
I got more help, and of the kind I needed than I would ever have thought possible from AA... Your experiance could be different... I seen those whose was. People died cause they didn't get it.
people lived cause they got it.
lazs
Nash, he is not kidding. Lazs is the "real deal". Do it.
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I feel pretty damn powerless. I mean I can keep on chiming in hear saying, "Yo Nash, hope you make it.". And I do. But there is so little context here for me to say what you need to hear, to get better. I honestly do not want to get "sunshine blown up my ass". I want you to kick this.
I don't want to hear from you every few day, while you may or may not be doing the drug, I have no way to confirm if you have or have not. Just please don't be an ultra melon and take a risk that will make you die.
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Hey Nash Buddy. How you been doin. Just been listening to "beat down wasted strung out spent" and wondering how your doin bro?
Hope your well.
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Well nash you still talkin to us buddy?
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Here's hoping you're doing OK, Nash.....
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Yo! Nash! Let us know if youre out there!