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Title: made some 'essential' purchases at Army surplus store :)
Post by: udet on October 30, 2003, 12:05:22 PM

50 cal bullet, looks tiny next to my 20mm shell :)
Army Survival Manual, highly reccomended book, was only $6!!!!

:aok

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Post by: mrblack on October 30, 2003, 02:33:19 PM

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Originally posted by udet
50 cal bullet, looks tiny next to my 20mm shell :)
Army Survival Manual, highly reccomended book, was only $6!!!!

:aok

Udet you been peeking at me again at the urinal:D

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Post by: FUNKED1 on October 30, 2003, 02:57:29 PM

That was me.  :)

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Post by: mrblack on October 30, 2003, 02:58:14 PM

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Originally posted by FUNKED1
That was me.  :)

 :rofl

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Post by: Gunthr on October 30, 2003, 03:08:29 PM

I've got a 20mm dummy, 50 cal, 303, 30 cal and a little 9mm just for fun sitting on my credenza shelf here at work :D I guess this could be the basis for a new hobby ... I'd love to have more samples of the workhorse ammo and ordnance from the different countries.

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Post by: Dune on October 30, 2003, 03:14:37 PM

What you really need is an inert 105mm training round.  My dad has one and calls it Spot.  They make a dandy doorstop.

;)

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Post by: Ripsnort on October 30, 2003, 03:47:45 PM

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Originally posted by udet
50 cal bullet, looks tiny next to my 20mm shell :)
Army Survival Manual, highly reccomended book, was only $6!!!!

:aok

Hey, I got a 20mm and a .50 cal too...problem is, the .50 is hot. Anyone know how to remove the powder safely?  (If anyone tells me to drill a hole, I'll let them go first. :D )

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Post by: Eagler on October 30, 2003, 03:49:23 PM

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Originally posted by Gunthr
I've got a 20mm dummy, 50 cal, 303, 30 cal and a little 9mm just for fun sitting on my credenza shelf here at work :D I guess this could be the basis for a new hobby ... I'd love to have more samples of the workhorse ammo and ordnance from the different countries.

try ebay

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Post by: Scootter on October 30, 2003, 04:19:09 PM

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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Hey, I got a 20mm and a .50 cal too...problem is, the .50 is hot. Anyone know how to remove the powder safely?  (If anyone tells me to drill a hole, I'll let them go first. :D )

take it to a gunsmith and have them pull the bullet drain powder and reset the bullet (spray some WD-40 in the primer to kill it).

If you lived closer I could do it for you. I have access to a reload press for .50 BMG and it would take about 3 min.

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Post by: Replicant on October 30, 2003, 04:23:30 PM

I got a few rounds on my hi-fi ranging from 9mm, 38 special, .44 mag,  5.56, 7.62, .303, .50, 20mm... here's the latter three
(http://www.btinternet.com/~nexx/rounds.jpg)

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Post by: Ripsnort on October 30, 2003, 04:38:06 PM

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Originally posted by Scootter
take it to a gunsmith and have them pull the bullet drain powder and reset the bullet (spray some WD-40 in the primer to kill it).

If you lived closer I could do it for you. I have access to a reload press for .50 BMG and it would take about 3 min.

Thks, was hoping for a DIY job though. (shy of blowing my hand off)

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Post by: Ripsnort on October 30, 2003, 04:39:06 PM

Pyro beats us all, Pyro, or any co-goer's from 2000 have  a pic of his ammunition?

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Post by: straffo on October 30, 2003, 04:40:47 PM

Nexx it look like your ruler is inverted :)

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Post by: Ripsnort on October 30, 2003, 04:54:38 PM

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Originally posted by straffo
Nexx it look like your ruler is inverted :)

We measure in bigger sections, frankly, because "we're bigger" if you know what I mean. :)

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Post by: rpm on October 30, 2003, 04:55:27 PM

I have a 5in. powder casing from my old Ship. That thing was a pain in the prettythang to get back home in a seabag.

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Post by: straffo on October 30, 2003, 05:02:00 PM

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Originally posted by Ripsnort
We measure in bigger sections, frankly, because "we're bigger" if you know what I mean. :)

err ... no :confused:



Guess it's related to morning wood ...
so I'll give you a nice french proveb (well ... not so nice indeed :p) :

Erection du matin...
Pipi sans les mains


(and no I won't translate it :D)

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Post by: Dune on October 30, 2003, 05:02:37 PM

Rip, if you put the bullet in a vise and torque on the shell, you can get the neck loose enough to get the bullet out.  The casing is just brass after all.  However you run the risk of making the neck so loose it doesn't look right.

Unfortunatly I don't think RCBS makes kinetic bullet pullers that big   :)

(http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/ctd_images/product_images/203/64836.jpg)



I wouldn't worry about the .50 being live.  Unless you set it on a burner or put a nail against the primer and whack it with a hammer it isn't going to go off.

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Post by: Ripsnort on October 30, 2003, 05:06:38 PM

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Originally posted by Dune
Rip, if you put the bullet in a vise and torque on the shell, you can get the neck loose enough to get the bullet out.  The casing is just brass after all.  However you run the risk of making the neck so loose it doesn't look right.

Unfortunatly I don't think RCBS makes kinetic bullet pullers that big   :)

(http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/ctd_images/product_images/203/64836.jpg)



I wouldn't worry about the .50 being live.  Unless you set it on a burner or put a nail against the primer and whack it with a hammer it isn't going to go off.

rgr, thks Dune!

Title: made some 'essential' purchases at Army surplus store :)
Post by: NUKE on October 30, 2003, 05:09:05 PM

Just a question: how much velocity or energy would a round have if it is set off in the open, not being in a gun or barrel?

Doesn't the bullet get it's energey from the pressure of the gases combined in the barrel?

If you just set off a round in the open, what kind of energy would the bullet have ? What would the shell have?

Title: made some 'essential' purchases at Army surplus store :)
Post by: Dune on October 30, 2003, 05:14:18 PM

More than likely you will get a split in the casing and an explosion out the side of the casing.  The bullet probably wont go far at all.

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Post by: Gixer on October 30, 2003, 05:58:05 PM

"RCBS makes kinetic bullet pullers that big"

Wow haven't seen one of those in a while, brings back memories. Use to do alot of my own reloading and all RCBS gear including the old fashioned bullet puller (couldn't afford a flasher one at the time) worked great though.

I once read an article on reloading 50 cal rounds. The press would of looked pretty impressive on anyone's workbench.


...-Gixer
~Hells Angels~

Title: made some 'essential' purchases at Army surplus store :)
Post by: Gixer on October 30, 2003, 05:58:06 PM

"RCBS makes kinetic bullet pullers that big"

Wow haven't seen one of those in a while, brings back memories. Use to do alot of my own reloading and all RCBS gear including the old fashioned bullet puller (couldn't afford a flasher one at the time) worked great though.

I once read an article on reloading 50 cal rounds. The press would of looked pretty impressive on anyone's workbench.


...-Gixer
~Hells Angels~

Title: made some 'essential' purchases at Army surplus store :)
Post by: crabofix on October 30, 2003, 08:25:03 PM

Well Nuke, I can tell you that its not happening much.
During a military exercise, I attended, some lamer had to go smoking in the small arms munition storage. and you know the law of Murphy. It catched a fire, of course.

Now, what to do? Open the door, throw in the foamhose and fill the place with foam, while the rounds was poping of.
The inspection showed that no bullet had penetrated the ammocrates while exploding.

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Post by: GRUNHERZ on October 30, 2003, 08:28:58 PM

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Originally posted by crabofix

During a military exercise, I attended, some lamer had to go smoking in the small arms munition storage.  

Why on earth did he do that?

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Post by: capt. apathy on October 30, 2003, 08:32:05 PM

the case keeps the powder dry and controls the spacing to the projectile, thats about it.

actually when you need to make a case for a rare cartridge you fire-form it.  basicly you take a shell that is close to size but small enough to fit in the chamber and load a round with powder and a ball of wadded up bread (to replace the bullet), when you fire it the chamber keeps the case from splitting (hopefully), and afterwords the case is now shaped like the chamber.  this wouldn't work if you had any more strength in the case than just enough to keep everything together