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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Yeager on November 01, 2003, 02:46:47 AM
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That lawyer did one hell of a job utilizing minimal cover to save his life. Sure, he took a few rounds -but at three feet distance he saved himself quite nicely with the help of a mere shrub!
For those that didnt see it: The lawyer guy, in his mid 50s, was approached outside a courthouse in Kalifornia by a distraught client of about the same age with what appeared to be medium sized caliber revolver. The lawyer managed to put a small pruned tree between himself and the shooter maintaining about two to three feet serparation and ducking left/right up/down like the wiley coyote for 5 or 6 shots. The lawyer took several rounds to the upper torso/neck/head region but none proved to be lethal. The shooter, looking somewhat surpirzed with his aim, suddenly turned and walked away. The lawyer kind of walked himself away in the opposite direction and set himself down a few seconds later. The shooter walked away but was man-tackled by a security gaurd and several others.
The footage was captured by several different cameras. Fascinating to watch.
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Yea I just the video a few hours ago, fascinating...
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Any links to clips or anything?
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The guy that tackled him was a lawyer and off duty Sheriff's Deputy. They had him on Jimmy Kimmel last night.
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I saw that. Amazing that he was hit a few times and didn't even flinch..because he was still dodging bullets. Adreniline must be one of the powerful naturally produced drugs in the world!
Too bad the lawyer wasn't armed with some rum and a sandwich (http://www.itechnology.co.za/index.php?click_id=29&art_id=vn20031031054713476C439677&set_id=1) . This whole nasty incident could have been avoided.:p
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didn't the lawyer have a cell phone?
lazs
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what's he going to do with a cell phone? Beat him over the head?:rolleyes:
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Morpheus believes he is The One.
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LOL Animal
Yeah I saw that on FOX news yesterday, pretty surreal scene: a woman on the payphone in the background, cameras everywhere and this poor guy is dodging bullets at point blank range behind a small tree. You can see what looks like some hits at times.
Then the shooter runs out of ammo and kinda looks perplexed for a second, then calmly walks down the street, with cameramen in tow, for about 15 seconds as if nothing happened. The guy who was shot just puts both hands in the air and walks into the street, as if to say "wtf? didn't any of you people just see that?"
Then this guy comes flying into the shot and tackles the shooter.
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Originally posted by lazs2
didn't the lawyer have a cell phone?
lazs
HAHHAHA, I just saw this, LMAO Laz!
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I bet the sherrifs deputy was watching the whole incident from the court house and waited for the guy to run out of ammo. Then he ran onto the scene "Heres my big chance to be a hero, even though the victim has been shot several times and the suspect is out of ammo!"
Just goes to show, in this world, you have to protect yourself.
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Anybody have a link?
Do all news websites now charge to see videos?
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Originally posted by Tarmac
Anybody have a link?
Good ol Beeb.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/3232897.stm
Gatso
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You guys missed the best part of this story. Most of the cameras (there for the Robert Blake trial) were initially distracted by a lady exiting the courtroom at the same time as the shootings. She was dressed as a Hooters Girl for halloween.
Play the video from this site (http://www.msnbc.com/news/987626.asp?0dm=C1BPN) and you can see her on the payphone in the background.
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Originally posted by Curval
I saw that. Amazing that he was hit a few times and didn't even flinch..because he was still dodging bullets. Adreniline must be one of the powerful naturally produced drugs in the world!
It wasn't amazing at all in light of the fact dodging bullets from disgruntled clients is a prerequisite in law school. The fact the barrister took two rounds convinces me he got no better than a C minus in that course.
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M'F'er was playing tree elf, for sure.
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pretty sad all the people around and no one stops him for a LONG time after he stops shooting and puts the gun away.
Dang....
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Good proof that handgun hits are not at all like Hollywood.
I believe he was using a .38 spl, based on the smoke and slight recoil from the round, could have been smaller though.
Makes ya think about stoping power, as the lawer was not a druged up nut case ( I don't think:D ).
I think the shooter should sue the gun maker and Hollywood for his failing to drop the Barrester on the first shot.
BB most peeps don't just run toward someone shooting someone, I know I would be a bit slow on the run myself, and I am carring most of the time. Gun shots are BAD things to happen to you.
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Originally posted by GScholz
Hollywood always gets it wrong!
It looked kind of like 'Police Squad'.
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Originally posted by davidpt40
I bet the sherrifs deputy was watching the whole incident from the court house and waited for the guy to run out of ammo. Then he ran onto the scene "Heres my big chance to be a hero, even though the victim has been shot several times and the suspect is out of ammo!"
Just goes to show, in this world, you have to protect yourself.
You know you really ought to get a life. Your post smacks of a gross lack of experiance in any situation remotely like this. The time for someone to get out of a building was rather short. He then moved to attack an armed suspect while he himself was unarmed due to court regulations. That is conduct hardly deserving of your comments. :mad:
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Be sure to set the drag, david... you got one.
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whats the big deal? he only shot a lawyer, not like a real human being. watch the news, listen to why he went off on this lawyer. seems almost justified to me.
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Originally posted by bigsky
whats the big deal? he only shot a lawyer, not like a real human being. watch the news, listen to why he went off on this lawyer. seems almost justified to me.
:aok :lol :rofl :eek: :D :p
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Originally posted by Airhead
It wasn't amazing at all in light of the fact dodging bullets from disgruntled clients is a prerequisite in law school. The fact the barrister took two rounds convinces me he got no better than a C minus in that course.
LOL!
Much safer being an accountant I guess....although I've heard that there are courses being offered on "off balance sheet" transactions and how to keep them that way.;)
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It was pretty obvious this clown had no prior experience with hand guns. Guys like this give licensed prudent gun owners a bad name, and gives more fuel to the anti-gun crowd.:mad:
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Rip,
Thanks putting a quote of mine in your sig line!
Could you please do me a favor and include the whole quote (i.e the last line)
Thanks!
:aok
"You live to impress this board. It's OK to do that, but not to act like you don't give a rat's bellybutton about what anyone thinks....if you didn't we would have never seen your carpeted garage, your picture of NW Mountains that just happen to have your BMW in the foreground, etc, etc, ad naseum.
Rip...you're a blow-hard, gas-bag on this board. I've got no problem with that actually...but don't deny it."
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
It was pretty obvious this clown had no prior experience with hand guns. Guys like this give licensed prudent gun owners a bad name, and gives more fuel to the anti-gun crowd.:mad:
You're angry he missed?
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Although my avitar is somewhat derrogatory of "tree huggers", if the guy that was being shot at was me, I'd change my opinion and hug every tree I saw. That tree saved his life without question.
Simply amazing
P.S. perhaps he should have saved a bullet or two for all the cameramen that did nothing but continue filming. Then they would have had an excuse for not grabbing the SOB as he nonchalantly walked away after he ran out of bullets. The news media again stifles me with their cowardice. The old song "Dirty Laundry" always comes to mind.
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Clients always blame their attorneys when things don't go their way. Still, if the shooter was upset that his attorney was being paid from a trust fund, I have to wonder why his attorney didn't tell him that but instead he had to find out from the court hearing. I almost wonder if the attorney was double-dipping; getting paid a flat fee by the shooter and also a percentage from the fund.
Pretty dramatic stuff. Love a tree. It just might save your life!
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The lawyer was on TV this morning. Hand injuries and a bullet in his neck, but he is going home from the hospital already.
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the way i heard it. he couldnt run. the trust fund was from a car accident he was in. the lawyer wouldnt let him get the operation he needed to fix the pain he was in because if the trust was paid out in medical fees the lawyer couldnt keep milking the trust for his fees. thats why the guy went postal on his butt.
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OK, one more time.......... if you see someone shooting at me, kicking my prettythang, or robbing me........ get a good shot of his face, then, PUT DOWN THE CAMERA AND HELP ME!
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Sad but true fact out of this is the anti-gun zealots will use this as another example of why we need more gun laws. They will conviently ignore the fact that the shooter was already breaking more than a couple laws, why they think anymore laws would have prevented this incident is beyond me.
I can just imagine the shooter thinking just before he was going to pull out his gun "oh no, I better not shoot him, I will be breaking that new gun law", or "I better not pull out my gun and shoot him, I will now be breaking six laws, not just five".
If someone is going to try to kill someone he will find a way to do it regardless of the laws.
dago
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Originally posted by Dago
If someone is going to try to kill someone he will find a way to do it regardless of the laws.
dago
In this case, the shooter would've probably been more dangerous if he had a knife instead of a gun..:)
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Originally posted by Dago
Sad but true fact out of this is the anti-gun zealots will use this as another example of why we need more gun laws.
dago
I thought it was a perfect example of why even republicans should learn how to plant and hug a tree. :aok
Btw i was always curious about your handle?
dago
n : ethnic slur; offensive terms for a person of Italian descent.
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Originally posted by bigsky
the way i heard it. he couldnt run. the trust fund was from a car accident he was in. the lawyer wouldnt let him get the operation he needed to fix the pain he was in because if the trust was paid out in medical fees the lawyer couldnt keep milking the trust for his fees. thats why the guy went postal on his butt.
If this is true, I have a feeling the shooter just might end up sueing the attorney for breach of trust and malfeasance; after the attempted manslaughter charge is addressed at trial. It will be interesting to see if the defense attorney at the criminal trial brings this information to light as a motive for the shooting, to try and mitigate the offensiveness of the crime and go for a lighter sentence.
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In this case, the shooter would've probably been more dangerous if he had a knife instead of a gun..
Or ran his lawyer over with his car in the parking lot. That certainly happens enough.
dago
[n : ethnic slur; offensive terms for a person of Italian descent./QUOTE]
Dont know which dictionary you used, but mine says
"Etymology: alteration of earlier diego, from Diego, a common Spanish given name
Date: 1832
a person of Italian or Spanish birth or descent"
I'll give you the short and sad story of the handle:
Years ago when I signed up for Warbirds, somewhere in the early versions (1995?), before 1.0, I needed a 4 letter handle. Hadn't prepared for that, needed to come up with one quick while setting up my account, and Dago came to mind (**** also camed to mind, but figured I might regret that one). My best friend in high school (years ago) was an Italian kid who called himself "dago", and even had a custom plate on the front of his car with that printed on it. So, lacking any better idea at the moment, I used it to get the account going. Never got around to taking a differant one, and since alot of people know me by that handle, I just stuck with it. I know that calling an Italian a "dago" is considered derogatory in our culture, but like many handles, calling yourself that handle I dont see as an insult to others, just a little joke or jab at yourself.
Many times people have tried to insult me and my "Italian heritage" (wop jokes etc) since. I have found that amusing since I have zero Italian blood in me, (no Spanish either).
I am a blond haired, fair skinned American of half English, half Irish descent. (well armed too) :)
dago
and proud of it. :D
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Years ago when I signed up for Warbirds, somewhere in the early versions (1995?), before 1.0, I needed a 4 letter handle. Hadn't prepared for that, needed to come up with one quick while setting up my account, and Dago came to mind
lol, same here. I remember sitting there in 1996 registering for Warbirds, and being surprised by the four letter callsign. I mentally fumbled around for a couple minutes before I picked the last name of one of my favorite composer(Bax).