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Title: name of this
Post by: Sarge1 on November 06, 2003, 10:01:57 AM
1 hint = it's a tank...lol

(http://www.332nd.org/dogs/sarge/tanks/tank.jpg)
Title: name of this
Post by: pugg666 on November 06, 2003, 10:09:03 AM
M6A2 heavy tank, experimental

50 tons
3 in gun with a 37MM coaxial.
Title: name of this
Post by: Sarge1 on November 06, 2003, 10:21:42 AM
1941 - USA M6A2 Heavy Tank
Armament:       1 - 3" gun (modified AA gun)
                            1 - coaxial 37mm AT gun
                            3 -  0.5" MG
                            1 -  0.3" MG
Engine:             Wright G-200, radial, 9 cyl, air
                             cooled, 800 hp
Speed:              22 mph
Range:              100 miles
Crew:                 6
Weight:              50 tons
Only 40 built. Trials led to M-26 tank series. Designed
to break through defenses in the European theater. Used
GE electric transmission. This is a sole survivor.
Title: what i would like in AH2 For a US tank
Post by: Sarge1 on November 06, 2003, 10:29:35 AM
(http://www.332nd.org/dogs/sarge/tanks/M18_Hellcat-2.jpg)


1943 - USA M18 Gun Motor Carriage "Hellcat"
Armament:       1 - 76mm gun
                            1 - 0.5" MG AA
Engine:             Continental, 9 cyl., radial air-
                             cooled, gas, 340 or 400 hp
Speed;               55 mph
Range;               105 miles
Crew:                  5
Weight;               17 tons

Much smaller and lighter than M-10. Over 2,500 built.
Only AFV designed specifically for TD. Excellent
power-to-weight ratio. Fastest production AFV of WWII .
Used "shoot and scoot" tactics. Also used as an assault
gun and Self-Propelled Artillery. Used the same 76mm gun
as the Sherman. Light  weight and a 400 hp engine gave it
excellent speed and mobility. One of the best Tank Destroyers
of WWII
Title: name of this
Post by: frank3 on November 06, 2003, 11:27:06 AM
Looks pretty fast/cool!
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Post by: Arlo on November 06, 2003, 03:18:24 PM
Also looks like one hit and it's dead. While the same may hold true for the Sherman I'll stick with petitioning for it and the T-34. There's definately a need for both since they were out in numbers and would fill in the main gap in a tank vs tank portion of most scenarios.
Title: name of this
Post by: Sarge1 on November 07, 2003, 08:06:10 AM
It is as fast as the M8 but with more punch and the US during the war went with numbers when it came to tanks. thats why the m4 was famous. M4 was dead with one shot had a weak 76mm than the panzer, was slow and with the gas engine burst into flames alot, Used too many types of engines and they were on short demand to rplace them. wasnt that good but you cant kill 50,000. when your tank production gets shut down from airraids, they would win from shere numbers not for advancement in tank technology, But it had numbers to overwhelm the enemy to attack pnzrs and tigers and the panther,
well we did have the halftrack with the arty piece in it for antitank too
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Post by: VO101_Isegrim on November 07, 2003, 08:16:56 AM
Sarge, do you have details of armor protection of that experimental heavy tank ?

Looks quite small for it`s weight, I`d guess it was well armored.
Title: name of this
Post by: Sarge1 on November 07, 2003, 10:37:10 AM
Date of first acceptance   January 1943   Total acceptances   12
Manufacturer   · Fisher Tank Arsenal · Baldwin Locomotive Works    
Crew   6 men:· Commander in turret · Gunner in turret ·
Loader in turret · Driver in hull left front · Assistant driver in hull right front ·
Bow machine gunner in hull right front

M6A1: Dimensions         
Combat weight   126,300lbs 57,300kg   Height   127" 323cm
Length without gun   297" 754cm   Gun overhang forward   35" 89cm
Width   122.5" 311.2cm   Tread   93" 240cm
Ground clearance   21" 53cm   Turret ring diameter   69" 175cm

M6A1: Armament            
Type   Mount   Ammunition   Traverse   Elevation
3" Gun M7   In turret   75 rounds   360°(manual or electrical)   +30° to -10
37mm Gun M6   Coaxial to 3" gun   202 rounds   360°(manual or electrical)   +30° to -10
.50cal M2HB MG   AA mount   5700 rounds   Manual   Manual
Two .50cal M2HB MGs   Right bow      Manual   Manual
Stabilizer            
Elevation only            

M6A1: Armor         
Assembly         
Welding         
Maximum   4" 10cm   Minimum   1" 2.5cm
Hull      Rolled homogeneous steel   
Turret      Cast homogeneous steel   

M6A1: Automotive         
Engine   Wright G-200; 9 cylinder, 4 cycle, radial gasoline      
Horsepower   Gross: 900@2300rpm   Fuel capacity   477gal 1810L
Transmission   Torqmatic      

M6A1: Suspension   
Type   Road wheels
Horizontal volute spring   4 double bogies/track;4 wheels/double bogie
Drive sprockets   Idlers
Rear drive   Adjustable at front of track;auxiliary track tension wheel behind idler

M6A1: Track                     
T31                     
                     
Dual outside guide, double pin, steel                     
Width   25.75" 65.41cm   Pitch   6" 15cm   Shoes/track   99   Ground contact length   188" 478cm

M6A1: Performance         
Max level road speed   22mph 35kph   Max trench   132" 335cm
Max vertical obstacle   36" 91cm   Max fording depth   48" 120cm
Cruising range      ~100mi, roads ~160km, roads   


The M6A1 was identical to the M6 except for the M6A1's welded versus cast hull.
Although never standardized, twenty heavy tanks T1E1 were built and were unofficially called "M6A2." This variant had a cast hull like the heavy tank M6, but was built with an electric transmission that was later tested in the medium tank T23.
Title: name of this
Post by: Widewing on November 07, 2003, 12:03:56 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Arlo
Also looks like one hit and it's dead. While the same may hold true for the Sherman I'll stick with petitioning for it and the T-34. There's definately a need for both since they were out in numbers and would fill in the main gap in a tank vs tank portion of most scenarios.


Yes, it wasn't heavily armored. However, it was the fastest armored vehicle (tracked) on the planet (55 mph cross country, 65 on roads). It was faster than the M2 and M3 halftracks of the support units. In addition, its 76mm gun firing HVAP ammo could kill anything it might encounter. Finally, it is a Tank Destroyer, not a tank, and it was the best TD of WWII, bar none. German tankers positively feared and hated the M18. It would fire from concealment and scoot to a new location at breakneck speeds.  Even in open country, its speed was such that German tanks couldn't not track it even at 2,000 yards (turret rotation speed was far too slow for that). It was sometimes used as a breakthrough vehicle, simply because nothing else could maneuver into the enemy's rear as quickly. At the end of the war, the M18 had the best kill to loss ratio of any allied armored vehicle, including the newly arrived M26 Pershing.

The best way to deal with the M18 was to ambush it, usually with shoulder launched weapons like the Panzerfaust or Panzerschrek.

My regards,

Widewing
Title: name of this
Post by: Sarge1 on November 07, 2003, 04:58:11 PM
I would be happy with the M18.. that would cause some of the feerless tigers in game that up with not much fear of being taken out. and in defense of tiger guys if you can hit it it is dead so both could win and bring balance to GV game.. you would see less use of M8 that is for sure for anti tank. and the T34 for a russian era tank. the Panther came out to get the t 34 pic of t34's killer below



(http://www.battletanks.com/images/PzKw_VI_Panther_G-2.jpg)

1943- German PzKw V Panther Model G
Armament:       1 - 75mm gun KwK 42 L/70
                            1 - 7.92mm MG
Engine:             Maybach HL230P30, V-12 gas, 700 hp
Speed:              28.6 mph
Range:             125 miles
Crew:                5
Weight:             50.2 tons
Developed in response to Russian T-34.  One of the best tanks of WWII.  Had much influence on post-war tank design.  Ausf G was the final model of this tank. Early versions suffered from mechanical problems, due to lack of adequate testing. Produced until 1945. Saw action on all fronts. Gun had excellent anti- armor capability. Could out duel T-34 at long range. Excellent suspension system . Could traverse rough  terrain at speed. Over 5900 built. Served with the French army after  the war
Title: name of this
Post by: Sarge1 on November 07, 2003, 05:04:43 PM
wish i could skin and make a protype of that tank for ah. but dont know how to do that. and i heard it isnt easy to make a funtional tank. well for me anyways i thkn if people made some of the ones they wanted better chance of seeing it. the less they do the more we can get maybe.. dont know much about the programing of it. i think if you modify the othe tanks codes and change the settings to match the m18 it coudl work. but then i could be wrong about programming...lol
Title: name of this
Post by: bigsky on November 08, 2003, 01:34:33 AM
m-18:aok
 i sugested it long ago, AH2 comes first. then i hope we get new stuff like the m18. GVs will get some demention in ah2.
Title: name of this
Post by: Arlo on November 08, 2003, 03:00:22 AM
Got nothin' against the M-18 being added .... after the Sherman and the T-34. :D
Title: name of this
Post by: frank3 on November 09, 2003, 03:45:55 AM
<--- Agrees
Title: name of this
Post by: Sarge1 on November 09, 2003, 06:35:05 PM
yes the M4 too, with M18 and T34  those would be the best. I would never be in a german tank once a US tank comes in.
Title: And of course .....
Post by: Arlo on November 09, 2003, 06:53:49 PM
.... any thread that supports the Shermie, baby ....

(http://www.homevideos.com/photosaction/kelys.jpeg)
Title: name of this
Post by: Corsair on November 09, 2003, 07:39:50 PM
I would like to see a T34 modeled before any American tanks. The T34 was excellent against Panzers and Tigers, while American tanks were more 'quantity over quality'.

Hell, I'd be happy with any new GV.
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Post by: frank3 on November 10, 2003, 10:11:27 AM
Sherman would be allright yes.
or a Catalina?

Btw, 2000 posts!!! :)
Title: name of this
Post by: Sarge1 on November 12, 2003, 12:55:05 PM
Sherman should be in cause it was used the most in ww2 than any other tank.. (allies)  but just will get K/D ratios for the pnzr/tiger guys a boost in perks and kills. why pass up a 55mph tank that could serve to help stop taking of bases and also kill tanks and the M8 and the M18 could chase down those pnzr/tiger and it could keep up with the M3 and kill it, also for those m3 that race to the town to beat out tanks ..guys in tgr/pnzr that run out of ammo and try to retreat..lol thinking of the all around the M18 could do/ with the higher velocity round and speed

If the M4 is modeled correctly it can be taken out in any angle 1 shot and tiger has distance where the m4 has shorter range and has to get closer to those two german tanks and if the t 34 if it gets in which is not good for m4, But if it is used in Historical sceneros would be great..


the other reason I want a US tank in it cause I really dont like having a swastika associated with my name...it bugs me when i forget it is a game...lol  

tanks to put in should be
t 34
m 18
m 4 cause it was the most widely Used
Title: name of this
Post by: Furious on November 12, 2003, 01:29:42 PM
no more gv's until we have all WW2 planes modeled.
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Post by: Arlo on November 12, 2003, 05:31:23 PM
Silly Furry-fuss. :D
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Post by: frank3 on November 13, 2003, 09:52:51 AM
<--- agrees with Furie, the tanks come in 2nd place
Title: name of this
Post by: Arlo on November 13, 2003, 01:57:23 PM
To modeling every single airplane that flew in WWII?

Naaaah! :D