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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Wanker on November 06, 2003, 10:21:30 AM
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I understand you wanting to run a tight ship in the troll-infested waters of this BBS, but in the case of removing Eagler's thread about partial-birth abortion, I think it was inapproporiate to lock the thread and remove the animated gif.
While disturbing to look at, that gif merely demonstrates how the partial-birth abortion is performed. So if you remove it from the boards, that still does not change the fact of how the procedure is performed.
Actually, I think that thread was very educational. From a pro-choice perspective, I can see why they would feel relieved that you removed the gif, since the reality of the procedure makes their defense of it unconscionable.
Just my humble 2 cents....I don't mean to make waves, but I really think you went a little overboard on this one.
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Eagler posting a URL and saying "Here is a link for when Skuzzy removes the pic" should be a clue to the poster that it was inapproporiate.
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"Translation"
Hey skuzzy we know that posting controversial stuff may get us banned and the post deleted or locked, but we still have to push the envelope and test you to see if you are still monitoring us. And when you remove the controversial posts or lock the thread we are still going to whine incessantly about it:)
Just humor!!! relax!!!
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Originally posted by 1K0N
"Translation"
Hey skuzzy we know that posting controversial stuff may get us banned and the post deleted or locked, but we still have to push the envelope and test you to see if you are still monitoring us. And when you remove the controversial posts or lock the thread we are still going to whine incessantly about it:)
Just humor!!! relax!!!
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Ok, point taken. But this whole BBS is about controversy. Why not just remove the gif if it goes beyond the boundary of good taste. I don't see why the thread had to be locked. Heck, we've got a good 200+ post thread about a Gay Bishop. What makes that less contraversial than abortion?
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I agree with banana on this, and see no reason for the lock. It was for the most part staying flame free. Considering the content.
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The graphics
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Was eagler banned?
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This whole BBS should not be about controversy. That is the first problem. Check the desciption of the O'Club and then look at its contents. Is there a descrepancy?
banana, you missed the entire reason why that thread is locked. Read my response again.
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Originally posted by banana
While disturbing to look at, that gif merely demonstrates how the partial-birth abortion is performed. So if you remove it from the boards, that still does not change the fact of how the procedure is performed.
Actually, I think that thread was very educational. From a pro-choice perspective, I can see why they would feel relieved that you removed the gif, since the reality of the procedure makes their defense of it unconscionable.
It would also be educational to see what I would do with a consenting Britney Spears. That doesn't mean I would post pics here. Me not posting pics would not change how the 'procedure' is performed.
Discussion was good, pic was over the top. The pic didn't add anything but shock value to the discussion.
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(http://www.kolumbus.fi/latesoft/def-nazimod.jpg)
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:rofl IN
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That is going way WAY to far. You deserve to be banned and I hope you do.
You are a despicable person for ever posting anything like that.
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Oooh, another one who doesn't know when a pic isn't appropriate!
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Just gotta keep pushin don't ya...
cya.....
directed at the above pic, not to banana
:rolleyes:
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I disagree banana. That thread added nothing to the anti-choice argument.
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The post by Eagler was just a bad idea. He knew very well that the animated gif would be removed. He went so far as to provide a link to that gif for when it was removed, and threw it the face of HTC when he did. Skuzzy's response was appropriate. For his blatant disregard for the folks at HTC, Eagler should and probably has been, banned.
On the other hand, the replies to the topic were definitely appropriate. People debating about partial-term abortion has just as much of a right to be on this board as does any other debate, be it over consecration of an openly gay Bishop, to what the best way to cook a steak is.
So, to sum up, it is my opinion that the removal of the gif, link, and possibly Eagler was completely justified. The locking of the thread was not.
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Originally posted by banana
..........But this whole BBS is about controversy.
IMO, that's exactly what creates so many of the locked and deleted threads, as well as assorted acrimonious discussions and on-line mean spirited relationships. In simple terms, it shouldn't be about sponsoring an environment that deliberately creates and fosters controversy. There are already enough general subject boards available throughout the internet that encourage divisive and adversarial posting, so I really don't understand why HTC feels compelled to provide another one.
I've never seen a corporately sponsored BBS anywhere, that permits such openly hostile posts involving religion, abortion, anti-Semitism, borderline pornography and other questionable material for adults, let alone the probable reading by minors, as we see here. I haven't noticed any links to snuff flicks yet, but perhaps I've missed those.
I don't understand what value any of these posts bring to HTC in a business sense, nor what this kind of content adds to any sense of creating a community around virtual flight simming.
If I were HTC, I'd hope that only a minority of my customer base ever read the BBS, let alone visited the OT area. ;)
Just my two cents.....
Regards,
Badger
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There is nothing saying that the discussion cannot be resurrected. Never really had any problems with people having civil discussions about controversial topics. I would hope some common sense would prevail in all topics or threads that get started.
This is a corporate bulletin board. There are limits to what should and should not be discussed here. If you have to ask what the limits are, then you probably will step over the limit.
Such as the one poster in this thread has done. Completely inappropriate and lends nothing to the discussion in this thread and, apparently, is only for shock value.
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I monitor a Company BBS for work.... I have every right to delete or lock content not pertaining to company business or what I feel is inappropriate material. It is considered a "Public" forum like This forum is for HTC. Sure it is open to customers to post about company business or matters pertaining to it, in a responsible manor.
I have alot to do everyday and monitoring the BBS is just one of 500 responsibilities I perform. I dont have time to play games with users on the BBS, when a user posts inappropriate material I get 10 private emails to myself from customers *****ing about the inappropriate material another user posted... So I weighed the pros and cons of allowing inappropriate material and decided that in order to fulfill my job resposibilities something had to give.. Bull@#it posts lost that battle hands down! My company can't afford to pay one persons salary a year to monitor a free company BBS bottom line.
Consider that all you guys waiting for AH2 and pissing and moaning about the delay could be responsible in some small way
by distracting skuzzy from testing AH2 with him having to monitor the BBS all day for inappropriate material...?
Food for thought!
1K0N
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Skuzzy makes perfect sense. It would be like an anti gun thread starting off with a gif of a nine year old blowing his little brother away with a 357.
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Originally posted by Tarmac
It would also be educational to see what I would do with a consenting Britney Spears. That doesn't mean I would post pics here. Me not posting pics would not change how the 'procedure' is performed.
Just for medical discussion, you got any pics like that? Just for discussion, of course. :p
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Originally posted by Tarmac
It would also be educational to see what I would do with a consenting Britney Spears. That doesn't mean I would post pics here. Me not posting pics would not change how the 'procedure' is performed.
Discussion was good, pic was over the top. The pic didn't add anything but shock value to the discussion.
Tarmac, I think we all know what the procedure looks like of you going at it with Britney Spears. But a partial-birth abortion procedure is probably not as well-known outside the medical profession. That's why I considered that animated gif, repugnant as it was, educational. I have never seen how the procedure was performed.
Anyway, I've alreayd said enough, so I'm out of this thread.
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I think it's pretty safe to say that everyone on this BBS is Internet saavy enough to find any and all the information they need on D&X / Partial Birth Abortion if they are so inclined. I just did a google search and that pic was in the very first link.
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Some of you "IN" dorks are'nt "IN" yet...hurry, times awastin.
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I too found the animated gif replusive, yet educational. I didnt realize that abortions were done that late during pregnancy. It would have been in better taste for Eagler to just post the link and those who wished to view it could have simply clicked on it. OTOH...there was absolutely no reason why Skuzzy couldnt have just removed the gif and allowed the perfectly civil discussion to continue. This isnt the first time Skuzzy has locked or deleted a perfectly civil discussion :rolleyes:
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I'm sorry but I did not see anything wrong with that post.
Skuzzy I think you jumped the gun there my friend.
But then again you are the ring leader iin this circus :aok
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Damn that evil Skuzzy bastard! He locked a thread that was started improperly, and to continue the discussion someone actually had to START A NEW THREAD! Oh the horror!
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Mr Black, I want to hug Saintaw in retrospect.
How can I loathe someone but know better than repond to feed your addiction to posting to everything?
Ok, it's worth it.
Clever alludes you at every post. It's amazing. I could take MEGS of pictures of Ripsnorts car photos and find fun reading, but you...
I mean some people like to sing, and they do so in their cars, but my Gad, they don't just pipe off in public all the time. You don't have the restraint of a drunken Japanese buisnessman in a Karoke bar as if they would have to kill him, then unplug the MIC.
Truely, it's uncanny.
And how can you be so not funny with all those :p in every post?
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Eagler could have done worse, he could have posted a movie clip showing the procedure :eek: Thankfully he only posted an animated gif ;)
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Originally posted by Creamo
Mr Black, I want to hug Saintaw in retrospect.
How can I loathe someone but know better than repond to feed your addiction to posting to everything?
Ok, it's worth it.
Clever alludes you at every post. It's amazing. I could take MEGS of pictures of Ripsnorts car photos and find fun reading, but you...
I mean some people like to sing, and they do so in their cars, but my Gad, they don't just pipe off in public all the time. You don't have the restraint of a drunken Japanese buisnessman in a Karoke bar as if they would have to kill him, then unplug the MIC.
Truely, it's uncanny.
And how can you be so not funny with all those :p in every post?
Lets see my 678 post to you'r 4.358
Now do you still ant to run you'r head about who pipes off on this BBS most:rofl
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I'm the only one Tuomio's post make laugth ?
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Originally posted by straffo
I'm the only one Tuomio's post make laugth ?
Yeah but is Skuzzy laughing?
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I knew better, but the point was made.
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Originally posted by Creamo
I knew better, but the point was made.
Yes and you made it for me THANKS:aok
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Skuzzy makes perfect sense. It would be like an anti gun thread starting off with a gif of a nine year old blowing his little brother away with a 357.
Just remove the offending .gif, warn/put on probation/ban the offender as appropriate. No need to kill the thread if the rest of it is acceptable to the moderator :)
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Originally posted by mrblack
Yeah but is Skuzzy laughing?
You think I've read the whole thread ?
Naaaa ,subject is to polemic for tonight I've just seen a funny ridiculous pict so far from a correct description of Skuzzy that I was rotlmao :)
that's all
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Oh I agree Straffo the pic is Funny as watermelon LOL.
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As badly as some of the users want to belive that this BBS is their own personal soapbox to push their own agendas, this is not true. This BBS is run by HTC and is subject to HTC's regulation. Don't like it? Go to another venue, or better yet start your own.:aok