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Title: Courtesy- Is it too much to expect here?
Post by: Max on November 06, 2003, 05:21:12 PM

This morning I came into the Main for a few sorties. On same country radio, someone asks for the gun mode keyboard command for ship's guns. The requiste, "alt + F4" is typed back...by another same-country player. The newbie asks again...same reply. Newbie goes on to say he switched countries to help the underdog numbers out, and is somewhat bewildered that his "team" members can dis him, or give bogus information on...but can't give him a straight answer to the question.

What's going on here folks? Is it THAT DIFFICULT to show a new player a little bit of common courtesy?

DmdMax
The Damned MkXX

Title: Courtesy- Is it too much to expect here?
Post by: john9001 on November 06, 2003, 05:32:43 PM

well max , not all of us are a-holes, some of us actualy try to help new players.

44MAG

Title: Re: Courtesy- Is it too much to expect here?
Post by: AVRO1 on November 06, 2003, 05:46:34 PM

Quote

Originally posted by DMax
What's going on here folks? Is it THAT DIFFICULT to show a new player a little bit of common courtesy?

DmdMax
The Damned MkXX

Formany if unfortunatly is. :(

Title: Courtesy- Is it too much to expect here?
Post by: F4i on November 06, 2003, 05:58:44 PM

Personally, I miss the old days in AW when we would trick the  newbies into punching out of their airplanes and dangle in their parachutes forever.  :D I don't know why we haven't adopted that joke here in AH.

If they use computers and don't know what "ALT+F4" does, it's about damn time they learn.  :aok :rofl

But, yes Max...courtesy would be expected on same-country channels.  On the open channel; however, the proverbial gloves come off.  :lol


TBolt

Title: Courtesy- Is it too much to expect here?
Post by: A_Clown on November 06, 2003, 06:15:51 PM

I most always help new people, unless im in the heat of battle.
 I even occasionally visit tha TA, & offer a lil 1on1 training. Not long ago I had a pilot I helped in TA, tell me how much he appreciated & learned from the help I gave him, & how much he enjoys the game. Made me feel pretty good I must admit.
A_Clown

Title: Courtesy- Is it too much to expect here?
Post by: Ozark on November 06, 2003, 07:06:26 PM

It’s sad that the 12-year-old mindset is so pervasive with the “Loud Crowd”.

May be it’s time that when someone types "alt + F4" or variations of it on the any channel… they ALT-F4! :) Live by your BS… disconnects by your BS. I bet HTC could build a "Back-Fire" code. ;)

Title: Courtesy- Is it too much to expect here?
Post by: aztec on November 06, 2003, 08:22:41 PM

And it's also sad there are so many here who delight in such antics with new folks when there are so many, loudmouth, arrogant  know it alls here who are much more interesting to laugh at. Right on Ozark, !

Title: Courtesy- Is it too much to expect here?
Post by: Roscoroo on November 06, 2003, 08:59:18 PM

they just have to add alt f4 to the swearword mute list ..

Title: Courtesy- Is it too much to expect here?
Post by: Gloves on November 07, 2003, 07:31:39 AM

Ah, the old ALT-F4.  I agree with Max that it was not appropriate in the example he gave or anytime somebody is asking for legitimate help.
 
But when a newbie asks for the cheat codes, I think it's the best one to give them. :D


Glove

Title: Courtesy- Is it too much to expect here?
Post by: Innominate on November 07, 2003, 08:10:09 AM

I fail to see anything reallly wrong with telling people to alt-f4.
Yes it can be counterproductive, and yes many of the people who tell others to do it are being jackoffs.
But its not like it's anything more than mildly annoying when you do it.  And also, anyone who doesnt know what alt-f4 does, really should learn.

Title: Courtesy- Is it too much to expect here?
Post by: LePaul on November 07, 2003, 10:01:08 AM

I'll stop saying Alt-F4 when the "Two Weeks" expression goes away  :)

I don't mind giving out key commands here and there.  But when someone clearly hasn't made any effort to learn the game and demands help constantly...then I'm all for the alt-f4 comments.

Title: Courtesy- Is it too much to expect here?
Post by: scJazz on November 07, 2003, 10:24:00 AM

I generally help 2 or 3 times each login answering some question or other. When the same person is repeatedly asking for this or that I then try sending them to the TA or suggesting RTFM. If it doesn't stop most of the time I just squelch them.

This is not a First Person Shooter. There are a hell of a lot of keys to learn quite aside from the ACM aspect. Need to apply yourself a bit to play.

Title: Courtesy- Is it too much to expect here?
Post by: Max on November 07, 2003, 11:00:03 AM

There's a difference (IMHO) between someone asking umpteen "how do ya...." questions on Ch 1 VS a new player asking a specific question on same-country...a relatively obscure question at that. I've been playen 2 years and I forgot how to set ships guns in "sea mode"

It seems the opinion is divided on this issue...all I'm saying is a little courtesy isn't going to set you back anything.

DmdMax
The Damend MkXX

Title: Courtesy- Is it too much to expect here?
Post by: mars01 on November 07, 2003, 11:31:43 AM

Neither is a little joke like Alt F4.  8)

Title: Courtesy- Is it too much to expect here?
Post by: Reschke on November 07, 2003, 12:15:27 PM

Yet another reason for the permanent squelch list to be brought to AH2.

[soapbox] If some of these ID10T's that spend so much time offering their "help/answers" to legitimate questions would actually do something about it then we would have more noob targets to shoot at. [/soapbox]

Title: Courtesy- Is it too much to expect here?
Post by: AKIron on November 07, 2003, 12:17:57 PM

I have the land mode for the guns set to alt-f4. ;)

Title: Courtesy- Is it too much to expect here?
Post by: SOB on November 07, 2003, 01:28:55 PM

Fly4beer AKA PC was my squaddie at the time...and we were flying in a scenario.  :D

(http://www.matthoffman.us/dl/altf4.jpg)

Title: Courtesy- Is it too much to expect here?
Post by: wetrat on November 10, 2003, 02:19:42 PM

I'm not going to read your post, but I can answer the question in the thread title. Yes, yes it is.

Title: RE: COMMON COURTESY...
Post by: agflit01 on November 10, 2003, 07:27:16 PM

Surely u jest........ I ain't sayin it's right, but I long since given up on hopeing for a stable maturity level to develope in the sim........

Title: Courtesy- Is it too much to expect here?
Post by: kj714 on November 10, 2003, 08:00:12 PM

Well, everybody has to go thru the unwritten psychological training program to be able to really enjoy the game. If you cant take the heat get outta the BBQ, but leave us your beer on the way out.  :D

I personally get a chuckle out of the alt f4's even though I dont throw them myself. It's just funny to see them all pop up at once. Poor newb byotches.

The only thing that ticks me off anymore is my own teammates dropping in on my fight and shooting through me to get a kill when I'm at d300 or less on the nme 6.:mad: Even with K/S on, the sudden burst of tracers makes me wonder who the heck is firing at my 6! Always love it when I hit a quick evasive and see a green plane back there. Talk about discourteous!!!!

I could just kill wilby for showing me this dang game on his laptop one day about 6 months ago! At least I got Duchess on too, so the wife ack problem went away!:aok

Title: Courtesy- Is it too much to expect here?
Post by: Ack-Ack on November 10, 2003, 09:02:00 PM

Quote

Originally posted by F4i
Personally, I miss the old days in AW when we would trick the  newbies into punching out of their airplanes and dangle in their parachutes forever.  :D I don't know why we haven't adopted that joke here in AH.

If they use computers and don't know what "ALT+F4" does, it's about damn time they learn.  :aok :rofl

But, yes Max...courtesy would be expected on same-country channels.  On the open channel; however, the proverbial gloves come off.  :lol


TBolt

One of my favorite tricks when AW3 introduced the Esc+OJ1 command was to say that the command was to check pilot rank and in-flight score.  All the they got when they entered the command was nothing but the input numbers from their controllers spamming their chat buffer.  It was far easier to get people to fall for this than it was for the Esc+P for more power trick.


ack-ack

Title: Courtesy- Is it too much to expect here?
Post by: killnu on November 12, 2003, 07:09:39 PM

Ah, ESC+P, memories:)

Title: Courtesy- Is it too much to expect here?
Post by: NUKE on November 12, 2003, 09:35:53 PM

What was the AW command to force the controls to switch to the mouse? That was a good one too.