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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: DmdNexus on November 12, 2003, 09:33:33 AM
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Tell me it isn't so!!! :lol
http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/West/11/12/girl.scouts.trapping.ap/index.html
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Never confuse "Skinning" with "Shaving" ;) If you do confuse them, you'll end up like Ted Bundy! :eek:
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I prefer munching beaver over shaving and skinning.
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Well, it beats dissecting a frog. I'm not sure I would want to marry a girl that good with knife though:eek:
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Originally posted by Sixpence
I'm not sure I would want to marry a girl that good with knife though:eek:
Especially if you haven't been circumsized yet!
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so??? everone should know that sort of stuff...and if the animal rights activists think otherwise...get them lost in a forest somewhere...
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Originally posted by vorticon
so??? everone should know that sort of stuff...and if the animal rights activists think otherwise...get them lost in a forest somewhere...
Which brings to mind...if an animal rights activist fell in the forest, would anyone hear it?
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Which brings to mind...if an animal rights activist fell in the forest, would anyone hear it?
And the corolary to that hypothesis... if you stab an animal rights activist in the forest... would he/she/it scream...
and if someone heard it, would they clap with one hand...
and would maggots still eat the body?
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LOL, if peta had been around during any winter, of my highschool days, to see the wall where I tacked up hides before I had enough to bother selling, they would have declared a 'mass grave' and held a candle light vigil.
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What kind of traps are they using? Do the traps kill the beavers instantly, or do they suffer?
Seems to me there's nothing wrong with trying to make sure the beavers are killed quickly and without suffering, if indeed you must kill them.
I suppose I'll be slapped with the PETA label now, but I don't care. I don't like to see any animals suffer.
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Accept the ones you leave on the side of the road?
(nudge nudge wink wink)
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Originally posted by banana
What kind of traps are they using? Do the traps kill the beavers instantly, or do they suffer?
Seems to me there's nothing wrong with trying to make sure the beavers are killed quickly and without suffering, if indeed you must kill them.
I suppose I'll be slapped with the PETA label now, but I don't care. I don't like to see any animals suffer.
Sadly I'm with you banana, I'll go get a court order restriction against you now..;) :lol
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Its not hunting for the sport, its hunting for education and cultural awareness. I put that on the same grounds as knowing how to build a fire and erect a tent and collect drinking water. Its something young people should learn, even if they don't plan on using it as adults.
When I was in Boy Scouts, we skinned a cow as a group (talk about a load of crap coming out the back-end!), then skinned rabbits in smaller groups and ate them (not the cow, just the rabbits). I remember trying to pack the rabbit's foot in salt to try and preserve it as a souvenir. Not sure what happened to it though. I think my mom probably threw it out while cleaning my room. :mad:
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Opps, thought this might be a thread with hot adolescents and a Wicked Weasel Swimsuit :p
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this just goes to show that peta would rather see animals starve to death slowly rather than taken out instantly (in most cases) I dont know a single hunter that lets an animal suffer for too long.
These people wanna act like if an animal group gets over populated they just magically (and painlessly) dwindle down to the appropriate number.
I dont laugh when I hear about animal rights activeistsgetting killed by the animals they are trying to protect I just think were is AETH (animals for ethical treatment of humans) when all this goes down. OH WAIT there ANIMALS they usually just think about SURVIVAL!
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Originally posted by Furious
Accept the ones you leave on the side of the road?
(nudge nudge wink wink)
LOL!:rofl
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Which brings to mind...if an animal rights activist fell in the forest, would anyone hear it?
Rip, the question should be:
If an animal rights activist fell in the woods:
a) would a bear **** on it?
b) would anyone care?
c) both a & b
d) none of the above
The correct answer is: c
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Originally posted by Furious
Accept the ones you leave on the side of the road?
(nudge nudge wink wink)
Furious, I resemble that remark!
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Originally posted by banana
What kind of traps are they using? Do the traps kill the beavers instantly, or do they suffer?
Seems to me there's nothing wrong with trying to make sure the beavers are killed quickly and without suffering, if indeed you must kill them.
I suppose I'll be slapped with the PETA label now, but I don't care. I don't like to see any animals suffer.
Have you ever been to a slaughter house, banana? It's a revealing experience. I used to go with my grandfather to get animal blood for a fishbait ingredient.
When cattle are being slaughtered (at least in my experience,) they are milling around in a pen adjacent to the door which takes them to the killing chamber. They are uneasy (smell of blood I suppose,) but give no indication of what lies beyond the door.
Indeed, one can be docilely driven through the door to the killing chamber.
Pigs OTOH are 100% aware of what's going on. They are screaming, frantically running around the pen searching for a way out. And no pig docilely enters the door. They know ... smart critters pigs. :)
Beavers are trapped by holding them under water until they drown. Typically, a leg-hold trap is used.
curly
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"We think it sends a very, very bad message that when animals cause a problem you kill them,"
:rofl
"Almost everything about beavers is good except when they flood your yard"
OK I have to disagree here, a yard full of beaver has GOT to be good :D
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Eat a beaver and save a tree. :aok
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PETA has no idea of what kind of people and culture they are dealing with. Most Alaskans just don't give a darn what groups like PETA might think, espescially when you get out of Anchorage.
I lived in Fairbanks (where this GS Troop resides). In the U. of Alaska - Fairbanks bookstore, you can buy a hatchet.
In one clas at UAF I was the oddball of the group, because I didn't have my own dogsled team. That's right, in a class of mostly women, most of the side conversations revolved around dog team care, racing, adventures, etc.
Telling Alaskans that they can't teach kids how to trap beavers is like telling us that we shouldn't play computer war games.
eskimo
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PETA and other similar groups will never "get it". Fact is, animals aren't PEOPLE! Nor do animals deserve the same RIGHTS as PEOPLE.
Now, IMHO... there are MANY people who do not DESERVE the same rights as animals, but thats besides the point.
Anyway... In my younger years I did a LOT of trapping. It's like an art. Being successful as a "trapper" genuinely requires more knowledge and skill than hunting does. A good trapper does what he can to minimize the suffering of the animal, which includes running your trapline as often a possible and killing the animal as humanely as possible, but this is very hard to do. I was just getting good when I realized it just "wasn't right". I got to where I couldn't sleep thinking there might be a fox sitting in one of my traps for 8hrs in the freezing cold, or a Beaver slowly drowning as the harder he fought the line the deeper he went.
I'm not against trapping, but I don't agree with it. There are better ways to enjoy outdoor sports.