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Title: The Future - something to think when dating; maybe she's not she
Post by: Fishu on November 13, 2003, 11:04:34 AM
http://media.guardian.co.uk/bskyb/story/0,13935,1074333,00.html

Try to see the difference!
I'm amazed the producer didn't get killed instead of just being punched at face.
Title: The Future - something to think when dating; maybe she's not she
Post by: FUNKED1 on November 13, 2003, 11:07:32 AM
If it had happened in the US they would have called it a "hate crime" if they had punched it or killed it.  :rolleyes:
Title: The Future - something to think when dating; maybe she's not she
Post by: Mini D on November 13, 2003, 11:09:06 AM
Actually funked... the man punched the producer.  I don't believe that is considered a crime in the U.S.

MiniD
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Post by: FUNKED1 on November 13, 2003, 11:11:27 AM
I R Tard
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Post by: LePaul on November 13, 2003, 11:15:04 AM
Errr....I don't wanna have THAT much in common with my dream girl...oye!
Title: The Future - something to think when dating; maybe she's not she
Post by: Chairboy on November 13, 2003, 11:29:21 AM
On the plus side....

No arguments about leaving up the toilet seat
No embarrassing store trips to buy tampons
They can both watch and enjoy the ball game
Title: The Future - something to think when dating; maybe she's not she
Post by: john9001 on November 13, 2003, 12:31:54 PM
thats why i don't pick up girls in bars, can't tell the she from the he-she.
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Post by: Lance on November 13, 2003, 12:38:37 PM
What, no 'I'd hit it' posts?
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Post by: Mickey1992 on November 13, 2003, 12:50:51 PM
"It" doesn't have a spot to hit, at least not until the upcoming operation is complete.
Title: The Future - something to think when dating; maybe she's not she
Post by: Lance on November 13, 2003, 12:57:37 PM
Okay, so then you'd hit it?
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Post by: Mickey1992 on November 13, 2003, 01:03:19 PM
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Originally posted by Lance
Okay, so then you'd hit it?

No.  I have not yet waded through the entire pool of true females yet.  I see no need to start hitting on transexuals. :eek:
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Post by: Ripsnort on November 13, 2003, 01:07:12 PM
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Originally posted by Chairboy
On the plus side....

No arguments about leaving up the toilet seat
No embarrassing store trips to buy tampons
They can both watch and enjoy the ball game


Hmm, I better check my wifes sex again...we never have qualms about toilet seats and she loves sports!(As well as camping, hunting, fishing) :eek:
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Post by: Ripsnort on November 13, 2003, 01:08:27 PM
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Originally posted by Lance
Okay, so then you'd hit it?


Yeah, I'd hit it..like this: (http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/images/smilies/throw.gif)
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Post by: Tumor on November 13, 2003, 01:18:53 PM
They'd STILL be trying to wedge my foot outta that producers ass.
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Post by: lazs2 on November 13, 2003, 02:18:25 PM
damn... i could tell some funny stories but I allready traumatized deja/mini d....  I don't think he could take any more of my funny stories.
lazs
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Post by: midnight Target on November 13, 2003, 04:08:51 PM
Well dam!!

No one else would be willing to take that for a test spin when the new options are installed???
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Post by: mrblack on November 13, 2003, 04:13:09 PM
I think they have a case don't you?
Seems they where tricked in some way.
Title: The Future - something to think when dating; maybe she's not she
Post by: Thrawn on November 13, 2003, 04:16:57 PM
My wife just said she would do her.  :D
Title: The Future - something to think when dating; maybe she's not she
Post by: Chairboy on November 13, 2003, 05:21:16 PM
Ok, then let's talk about another aspect of this, does anyone else think it's lame that they sued the producer?  C'mon, there aren't enough lawsuits in this world?
Title: The Future - something to think when dating; maybe she's not she
Post by: Fishu on November 13, 2003, 05:28:38 PM
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Originally posted by Chairboy
Ok, then let's talk about another aspect of this, does anyone else think it's lame that they sued the producer?  C'mon, there aren't enough lawsuits in this world?


I don't think that was easy for the guys who thought she was actually he.
So it can be an actual crime, unlike some lard arse sueing mcdonalds for being fat.

I wouldn't take it easily if tricked into that.
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Post by: mrblack on November 13, 2003, 05:31:57 PM
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Originally posted by Chairboy
Ok, then let's talk about another aspect of this, does anyone else think it's lame that they sued the producer?  C'mon, there aren't enough lawsuits in this world?


Come on man don't you think you would be pissed If you got trickid into kissing some person and it turned out to be a DUDE!!
And then they where gonna show it on TV:(

Although kinda funny to us maybe If I where one of the guys it happend to I would be mad as hell:mad:
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Post by: Chairboy on November 13, 2003, 06:21:09 PM
Sure, I'd be pissed, but if I sued someone every time I got mad....
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Post by: udet on November 13, 2003, 07:15:32 PM
so...would you let him/her perform oral on you???
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Post by: Torque on November 13, 2003, 07:28:32 PM
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Originally posted by udet
so...would you let him/her perform oral on you???


What are you trying to say?:eek:
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Post by: Tumor on November 13, 2003, 09:31:29 PM
Chairboy... you gay, or just don't mind chicks with "them things" :D
Title: The Future - something to think when dating; maybe she's not she
Post by: Chairboy on November 13, 2003, 10:09:05 PM
I mind frivolous lawsuits.  This was in England, sure, but this sort of thing is ridiculous no matter where it is.

What do you expect, these days, when you're put on a reality tv show?
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Post by: BEVO on November 14, 2003, 09:59:41 AM
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Originally posted by Chairboy
I mind frivolous lawsuits.  This was in England, sure, but this sort of thing is ridiculous no matter where it is.

What do you expect, these days, when you're put on a reality tv show?


if this happened to you, you would be pissed, right? you would want to take some sort of action right? well if you kill the guy, you go to jail, if you kick his prettythang, he sues you! and you probably go to jail anyway. so your only option is to sue him. Maybe this will stop him from doing stupid crap like this in the future. I'm sick of frivolous lawsuits too, but I don't think this is one of them. These producers are making a ton of money off of tricking these guys into kissing this SHIM. I think these guys deserve a cut of the money, don't you?
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Post by: lazs2 on November 14, 2003, 10:01:35 AM
Older guys would probly laugh it off but young guys are a little insecure and think people care about what they do for more than about 5 minutes.

one of my brothers was gay and when I was visiting him we went bar hoping... They were all gay bars so I was pleased to find a really attractive woman at one of em who paid a lot of atttention to me... even danced grab bellybutton that sort of thing..  my brother pulled me asside and told me I better back off unless I wanted a surprise.   I couldn't believe it...  but, being me... I asked "her" if it was true... "she" said yes and I said "no way"... Everyone was amused.   I said.. "lemme see those tits"  and she showed me a relly great pair... "she" Offered to... well... I said I didn't think that would be a great idea but thanks....   I reallly thought it was funny and it was an interesting experiance.  

 Course.... it wasn't the same thing... I was in a place where I was the foreigner and nobody was trying to fool me... least not on purpose...

Oddly... girlfriends often have the same reaction as thrawns wife to the story.    That is a threesome that I have so far avoided tho.
lazs
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Post by: LePaul on November 14, 2003, 10:05:50 AM
LOL...we man a booth at the Miami Boat Show every year.  One year, after a day at the show, I'm with a coworker as we hit one of the convenience stores in Miami Beach.  He's tugging my arm and going ga ga for this gorgeous brunette.  They start talking and its all smiles.  He's one of those super christian types, has to mention "Jesus" at least 100 times a day.  So I decided I just had to clue him in and whispered "Please notice the adam's apple"...the horrified look on his face was priceless.

I so wish I had let this romance unfurl...LMAO!
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Post by: Curval on November 14, 2003, 10:17:44 AM
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Originally posted by lazs2
one of my brothers was gay


Is he not still gay?  Or did he pass on?  Personal question, I realise...just curious.

My only experience with a gay "bar" was actually a gay restaurant.  A friend of mine and I were heading out to grab a bite to eat and saw a nice looking place that offered 2 meals for the price of one.  We said "What the heck" and went in.  It took us about ten minutes to figure out it was a gay establishment but as we were both guys we fit right in.  No-one bothered us, we had a great meal and the service was outstanding.

We left a great big tip and recommended the place wholeheartedly to all of our friends.
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Post by: LePaul on November 14, 2003, 10:25:03 AM
Curval, my brother is gay and my parents thought he would pass thru it like a phase.  He's a great guy, almost identical to the guy from Will n Grace as far as demanor and such

He's always had a lot of female friends who are model-types and one weekend they were all showing off their gorgeous nipple piercings....eeesh...if that couldnt make him change teams, nothing will !  (I was dying! Come to me, ladies!)

When I go see him, he takes me to his hangouts where his friends go...no one has ever bugged me and its always been a good time.

Like the movie said, same guy...just a different kind of porn  :)
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Post by: lazs2 on November 14, 2003, 10:25:04 AM
lepaul... that's funny... my current girlfriend... when she is in a mean mood... will tell me that whatever girl I am starring at has "an adams apple".   We watched a tv show tho where half were and half weren't and neither one of us did that great in figuring out which was which.   We looked up a site for them on the internet and I feel a lot better about being fooled... they are pretty much women with... well...  

ya gotta have a sense of humor to get through life.
lazs
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Post by: lazs2 on November 14, 2003, 10:28:40 AM
curval... sorry... he "was gay" till he died.   No one knew about aids back then.   Not a very good thing to watch someone die of... but then... dying is rarely a pleasant thing.

lepaul... yep, that was my experiance.   My brother or I would tell his freinds that I was straight and they would not hit on me... well... not agressively..   They would still joke around and all but.... no big deal.   I have never felt threatened by gay people but I don't want to see em lip locking or worse.   I think as humans we empathize (yes liberals, even lazs empathizes) and we don't like to put ourselves in that mental picture if we are straight.   Other than that.... they are interesting to be around in small doses.   They tend to be *****y and emotional tho in large doses.
lazs
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Post by: Chairboy on November 14, 2003, 10:30:49 AM
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I think these guys deserve a cut of the money, don't you?

This mindset is why I have a problem with these lawsuits.

We are not communists.  There is no requirement that there be a 100% equal distribution of all wealth.  Tell me, if you get on The Price Is Right and win $5000 in prizes, then you find out that the episode got really good ratings and that the show producers made a lot of money, would you go back and demand that they give you more prizes?

If you want 100% control over every aspect of how your will be presented on TV, then buy commercial time and film your own ad.  If you're not rich enough to do that but you still want that control, then don't go on somebody elses TV show.  If you're too stupid to understand that you're playing in someone elses world, and that they have a financial incentive to make things 'wacky', then don't reproduce.
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Post by: Charon on November 14, 2003, 11:23:09 AM
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They tend to be *****y and emotional tho in large doses.
lazs


Much like the AH community :)

Charon
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Post by: Curval on November 14, 2003, 11:38:46 AM
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Originally posted by lazs2
curval... sorry... he "was gay" till he died.   No one knew about aids back then.   Not a very good thing to watch someone die of... but then... dying is rarely a pleasant thing.


Sorry to hear that man.:(
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Post by: miko2d on November 14, 2003, 11:40:25 AM
There is a simple way to tell a woman from a man.

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MEN and women blink differently when startled. That simple and well-established observation has led Qazi Rahman of the University of East London, in England, and his colleagues to evidence supporting the idea that homosexuality is a characteristic which people are born with, rather than one they acquire as they grow up. The team's research, just published in Behavioral Neuroscience, shows that lesbians blink like heterosexual men. That, in turn, suggests that the part of their brain that controls this reflex has been masculinised in the womb.

Anyone who is startled by an unexpected noise tends to blink. If, however, the startling noise is preceded by a quieter sound, this blink is not so vigorous as it would otherwise have been. It is this lack of vigour which differs between the sexes. Men blink less vigorously than women when primed in this way.

In the latter case, as compared with the former, straight men had blinks that were 40% less vigorous. In the case of straight women the drop was 13%. Lesbians dropped 33% which, statistically, made them more similar to straight men than straight women. Gay men were also intermediate, although in their case the difference was not statistically significant.


Dyed in the womb (http://www.economist.com/displaystory.cfm?story_id=2121955)

 So, 40% - straight or gay man, 33% - a lesbian, 13% - a woman.

 There may even be a market for simple devices or just software that would measure such things inobtrusively.

 miko
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Post by: Curval on November 14, 2003, 11:41:32 AM
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Originally posted by LePaul
Curval, my brother is gay and my parents thought he would pass thru it like a phase.  He's a great guy, almost identical to the guy from Will n Grace as far as demanor and such

He's always had a lot of female friends who are model-types and one weekend they were all showing off their gorgeous nipple piercings....eeesh...if that couldnt make him change teams, nothing will !  (I was dying! Come to me, ladies!)

When I go see him, he takes me to his hangouts where his friends go...no one has ever bugged me and its always been a good time.

Like the movie said, same guy...just a different kind of porn  :)


How did your folks take it?  The question applies to lazs too.

I have two sons.  If either of them, or both of them, turn out to be gay I'm not sure how I'd react.  Obviously I'd still love them...but it would be...I dunno...weird.
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Post by: gofaster on November 14, 2003, 12:08:57 PM
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Cameras filmed the men attempting to woo Miriam, including scenes of them kissing and fondling her.


That's why I wouldn't want to appear on reality tv shows.  It requires too much faith in the producers to do what you expect them to do - be honest with you and give you a reasonable level of expectations.  That doesn't happen with reality tv shows.  Even the biggest reality show - "Survivor" - manipulates "the game" to achieve a desired reaction.
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Post by: DmdNexus on November 14, 2003, 12:21:40 PM
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Originally posted by miko2d
There is a simple way to tell a woman from a man.


Take your right (or left) hand... fingers spread and slightly clawed... swing the  hand towards the other person's crotch... take a firm grip and squeeze....feel through their clothing. if  external genitalia is present IT is a male.

This is called the GENDER CHECK MANUEVER.

Be prepared to duck and receive a volley of blows... or warmly greated with an embrace...

You choice of what to do in the later circumstance and based up the results of the maneuver.

carry on!
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Post by: Tumor on November 14, 2003, 12:23:29 PM
Gay people are fine with me.  It's the ridiculously obnoxious types you see in those gay pride parades irritate the crap outta me.  The wife has a very good gay friend (male), one of those guys who decided to come out of the closet after he'd been married a number of years.  Can't say I appreciate those who put thier kids through that, gay men or women.  Anyway... took me awhile to figure out they are just people with a different way of going bout life.

Oh lol, I still gotta be careful what I say around this guy.... him and the wife were having a "***** session" (lol) while I was playing Aces High one night... someone shot me down and I scream "YOU FU**ING studmuffinGOT!" at the top of my lungs.  That was embarrasing.
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Post by: LePaul on November 14, 2003, 12:28:46 PM
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Originally posted by Curval
How did your folks take it?  The question applies to lazs too.

I have two sons.  If either of them, or both of them, turn out to be gay I'm not sure how I'd react.  Obviously I'd still love them...but it would be...I dunno...weird.


Ha ha, I look back at it and laugh...I mean, my Dad was the assistant principal of the school we went to, and a high ranking officer/commander at the local Air Guard base (Lt Col).  Having one of your kids go pink wasnt easy.  At first, they thought it was a phase.  I pointed out the kid was the president of the Santa Barbara fan club (recall the soap?) and was an active Madonna fan, coat and all (From "Whose that Girl").

I pretty much kept out of it, as my folks tell me now, I was very easy to raise.  My brother was the rebel.  He'd go out and come back whenever.  Where he went, we didnt know...just that he hung out with a bunch of the "grunge" kids who kinda did their own thing.  Not trouble makers, just a lil off...all very intelligent kids...National Honor Society kids...but just not the normal preppy types you'd expect.

How they took it, I dont know.  They did do the counseling thing and made some headway there.  They tried really hard to understand the kid, and my brother realized they werent real sure how to handle him either.  So while the relationship seemed strained and awkward, they did talk a lot and give him that extra space he felt he needed.

My brother has always been a bit of a ditz...had he been born a girl, I'm certain he'd be Jessica Simpson.  He's a lot of fun, the life of the party, very smart...but lacks a bit in the common sense, like most super bright people do.

I don't know how well that answers your question, Curval.  Yea, its all different, but as time has gone on, its just how things are.  I still love the kid and am always worried when you read of hate crimes and such...people that just cant accept others as they are.  It took me a while to fully accept and understand it
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Post by: BEVO on November 14, 2003, 01:46:22 PM
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Originally posted by Chairboy
This mindset is why I have a problem with these lawsuits.

We are not communists.  There is no requirement that there be a 100% equal distribution of all wealth.  Tell me, if you get on The Price Is Right and win $5000 in prizes, then you find out that the episode got really good ratings and that the show producers made a lot of money, would you go back and demand that they give you more prizes?

If you want 100% control over every aspect of how your will be presented on TV, then buy commercial time and film your own ad.  If you're not rich enough to do that but you still want that control, then don't go on somebody elses TV show.  If you're too stupid to understand that you're playing in someone elses world, and that they have a financial incentive to make things 'wacky', then don't reproduce.

ok, take that quote out, the fact still remains: these guys did you wrong, now are you gonna do something about it, or sit there like a little biotch? you can't kill'em, you can't fight'em so what do you do?
Title: The Future - something to think when dating; maybe she's not she
Post by: lazs2 on November 14, 2003, 01:48:55 PM
Curval...My parents took it very well I think... I was startled but surprised at how little it affected me and our relationship.   My folks cared for him in their home the last year of his life...  I visited when I could, every weekend about and it was an extremely unpleasant wasting way to die.   It must have been hard on the folks..  My brother never complained much and allways told us he would recover even when it was apparent he wouldn't.   I have watched straight men die with much less dignity with far easier deaths.  

I have a feeling that you would take it very well if for some reason a loved one turned out to be gay.

The problem is as some say... I told him that i refused to quit useing words like studmuffingot unless it really was a big deal to him... it wasn't.    The biggest problem was some of my friends who were unable to deal with it.    I actually had to go to blows with a couple of people over the whole silly thing.   Nowdays I don't think it is such a big deal maybe tho...  In any case... I have never shyied from the opportunity to make stupid people feel stupid so it was no big deal for me.   Sometimes being insensitive has it's advantages.... I didn't really look for answers or question the whole thing I just accepted it and looked at it like just another strange thing about humans.   Was more interesting than anything else.
lazs
Title: The Future - something to think when dating; maybe she's not she
Post by: Curval on November 14, 2003, 01:53:59 PM
Thanks, both of you.

Interesting...it is something I genuinely don't want to have to deal with, but the possibilty does exist I suppose.
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Post by: StSanta on November 14, 2003, 11:10:42 PM
You think ya know a guy...

Interesting reading lazs. Would have never guessed. Gotta give respect for the way ya deal and dealt with it.
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Post by: Holden McGroin on November 15, 2003, 01:04:04 AM
The first time I visited New York, I made friends with this cabbie, and we went to a bar.  We were having a good time, telling stories, having a few, when I noticed a good looker at the end of the bar and I struck up a conversation.

I thought I was making some progress, when my buddy the cabbie told me, "I've been trying to tell ya, she's a guy!"  I would couldn't believe him but had to make sure, so I grabbed her, and found out she had more meat than was appropriate.

The whole bar laughed, and.....


No wait I think that was a movie.....
Title: The Future - something to think when dating; maybe she's not she
Post by: Dinger on November 15, 2003, 01:21:31 AM
If you go on a reality show, you expose yourself to ridicule. period.

Adam's Apple is always a classic. That kinda separation just screams implants.  If you're gonna be groping, get a quick grab to see if it's a preop.

Of course, a significant percentage of kids are born "sex-ambiguous", and the doctors have to guess.
Title: The Future - something to think when dating; maybe she's not she
Post by: lazs2 on November 15, 2003, 10:09:50 AM
st santa..  I am a very simple man.   Come to me as an individual and I will treat you as an individual.   That doesn't mean that I will like or agree with you but I will listen...Come at me as a group with an agenda and I will treat you as a potential threat to my freedom and as a brainwashed tool.
lazs