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Title: Goodyear F2G-2 Corsair
Post by: MajorDay on November 14, 2003, 01:11:44 PM
I wonder if F2G-2 ever went to World War 2?
Title: Goodyear F2G-2 Corsair
Post by: davidpt40 on November 14, 2003, 05:18:34 PM
Something about the F2G caused some major malfunctions.  The F2G only had a top speed of 450mph, and it had lateral stability problems.

I don't think it saw combat.
Title: Goodyear F2G-2 Corsair
Post by: MajorDay on November 14, 2003, 06:13:38 PM
Goodyear FG2-2 "Super Corsair" look pretty good that FG2 have Bubble canopy like North American P-51D "Mustang" and probably much faster than any prop plane, but im not sure if FG2 is the fastest prop fighter and i like to learn more about that Fighter plane.  :aok
Title: Goodyear F2G-2 Corsair
Post by: F4UDOA on November 14, 2003, 08:29:14 PM
Two things.

1. It never saw combat or for that matter squadron strength. The contract was cancelled before serious production could begin for two reasons F8F and F4U-4.

2. It was very fast at sea level. 400MPH at 3,500HP.

I have full performance charts compared to the P-51, F8F, F7F, P-47 and others on my webpage.
Title: Goodyear F2G-2 Corsair
Post by: MajorDay on November 14, 2003, 08:31:41 PM
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Originally posted by F4UDOA
Two things.

1. It never saw combat or for that matter squadron strength. The contract was cancelled before serious production could begin for two reasons F8F and F4U-4.

2. It was very fast at sea level. 400MPH at 3,500HP.

I have full performance charts compared to the P-51, F8F, F7F, P-47 and others on my webpage.
Thanks!  All I know that F4U-4 went to war at Japan before WW2 was ending.  =S=
Title: Goodyear F2G-2 Corsair
Post by: davidpt40 on November 15, 2003, 02:34:16 AM
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1. It never saw combat or for that matter squadron strength. The contract was cancelled before serious production could begin for two reasons F8F and F4U-4.


I must contest.  I believe the reasons it was cancelled were due to the lateral stability issues and engine overheating problems.
Title: Goodyear F2G-2 Corsair
Post by: MajorDay on November 16, 2003, 11:34:55 AM
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Originally posted by davidpt40
I must contest.  I believe the reasons it was cancelled were due to the lateral stability issues and engine overheating problems.
Yeah I believe your right about that and they only make them 10 Goodyear F2G-2 Super Corsair(BuNo. 88459/88468).
Title: Goodyear F2G-2 Corsair
Post by: Vermillion on November 17, 2003, 08:47:36 AM
I disagree.  The Super Corsair was canceled because the war was winding down, and they simply had no need for it.

Aircraft were heading into the jet age, supersonic speeds (in a few more years at least), and very hight altitude fighting.  The Super Corsair's strengths were speed on the deck and climb rate, something that didn't matter so much in the upcoming jet era.
Title: Goodyear F2G-2 Corsair
Post by: F4UDOA on November 17, 2003, 09:37:32 AM
Indeed,

I have Don Armstrongs book (He was the chief test pilot on the F2G) he details the enlargement of the rudder correcting any lateral control issues. The Co2 levels in the cockpit were never really overcome but the solution was to use Oxegen all the time.

The Navy did accept some for delivery but the end of the war and lack of a mission doomed it in the end. The -4 could fill the same roll while not using the R-4360 needed for B-29's. That is another hidden factor.
Title: Goodyear F2G-2 Corsair
Post by: Red Tail 444 on November 17, 2003, 11:32:24 AM
I saw the Super Corsair up and personal a few years ago. Note: no bores on the wings for machine guns. She was to be used primarily for anti-kamikaze duty, according to Odegaard, and yes, she is a monster, in size and performance.

Photos available upon request.
Title: Goodyear F2G-2 Corsair
Post by: Nod on November 17, 2003, 05:57:47 PM
I saw her close up also, she is a beautiful bird. I watched it go into a steep climb and it didn't look to have a ton of troubles when it was goin verticel and stalling. Although it didn't hang on its nose for very long. (shrugs)
Title: Goodyear F2G-2 Corsair
Post by: F4UDOA on November 17, 2003, 07:56:05 PM
Redtail you spoke to Oregard:eek:

I would bug that guy to death about the details of the airplane.

I always wondered how those guys can own those planes without testing it to see what it could do.
Title: Goodyear F2G-2 Corsair
Post by: Red Tail 444 on November 17, 2003, 09:47:34 PM
August 2000, that big red and white machine was at the St. Paul Airshow.
Title: Goodyear F2G-2 Corsair
Post by: Widewing on November 17, 2003, 10:38:55 PM
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Originally posted by F4UDOA
Indeed,

The Navy did accept some for delivery but the end of the war and lack of a mission doomed it in the end. The -4 could fill the same roll while not using the R-4360 needed for B-29's. That is another hidden factor.


B-29 used the Wright R-3350. P&Ws R-4360 was still early in the development stages when it was selected by Vought for the F2G-2 and by Republic for the XP-72 "Superbolt". Both were cancelled, but not for a lack of performance. The XP-72 made 490 mph on test flights and nearly 430 mph right on the deck, but had a higher rated 3,450 hp -13 engine, whereas the F2G-2 was powered by the -4 version of 3,000 hp.

My regards,

Widewing
Title: Goodyear F2G-2 Corsair
Post by: Red Tail 444 on November 17, 2003, 11:29:09 PM
Widewing, respectfully, No more stats,  LOL ..the fantasy stats are killin' me.

I'm soooooooo upset now, we'll never see these rides, perked or not, in AH:mad: :(
Title: Goodyear F2G-2 Corsair
Post by: F4UDOA on November 18, 2003, 02:08:16 PM
Err,

B-36 not B-29.
Title: Goodyear F2G-2 Corsair
Post by: MajorDay on November 18, 2003, 02:27:37 PM
Goodyear produced a number of Corsair models identical to the Vought models. But since it was easier to interrupt Goodyear production than Vought, some experimental models were also constructed. Most notably the F2G series which featured an entirely new engine; the Pratt-Whitney R-4360-4 "Wasp Major". The airframe received significant alterations in order to mount this engine. The Wasp Major could deliver 3,000 hp (2,238.8 kW) for take-off and 2,400 hp (1,791 kW) at 13,500 feet (4,114.8 m). Top speed was 431 at 16,400 ft (4,998.7 m). It was armed with four .50 cal. (12.7 mm) Browning machine guns with 300 rounds per gun, and could carry two 1,600 lb (725.8 kg) bombs on wing pylons. The F2G-1 was the land based version, while the F2G-2 was the carrier model. Although hundreds were on order by August 1945, only 5 examples of each were built due to cancellations at the end of hostilities. All ten of these were sold as surplus, and a few could be found at various air races around the country after the war.
Title: Goodyear F2G-2 Corsair
Post by: Red Tail 444 on November 18, 2003, 03:26:03 PM
Why only 4 guns?
Title: Goodyear F2G-2 Corsair
Post by: F4UDOA on November 18, 2003, 04:18:26 PM
Redtail,

The 4 gun thing wasn't really all there was.

They were more built with 6 50 cals as well. I have pictures of the 6 50 cal version.

The 50 cal and the 20 were somewhat interchangable as well.
Title: Goodyear F2G-2 Corsair
Post by: Klank on November 18, 2003, 09:54:33 PM
In 1946 Cletus Cleland entered into the National air races in a F4U-4,He lost terribly.He talked an Old Navy Admiral into releasing 3 F2-G's.He won the 1947 Thompson Cup race by a landslide with #74.#94 placed 2nd.#84 crashed and burned when the pilot was overcome from Carbodioxide fumes .It was the fastest PropPlane for the next 4 yearsIn the National Airracing Circuit.
Title: Goodyear F2G-2 Corsair
Post by: mipoikel on November 19, 2003, 01:34:48 AM
Buy it!!:D

Super Corsair for sale (http://store.challengegaming.com/browse.cfm/4,264.html) :D
Title: Goodyear F2G-2 Corsair
Post by: MajorDay on November 19, 2003, 05:37:11 PM
Blah, Im planning to buy real Vought F4U-1A(Hope they VF-17) and if i did brought, lol I'll fly everyday. :D
Title: Goodyear F2G-2 Corsair
Post by: F4UDOA on November 19, 2003, 09:08:30 PM
Actually Klank that was a F4U-1. There were no -4 released to surplus until after Korea.

BTW he ran 6th at average lap speeds of 357MPH. Not bad for a stock -1.