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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: mrblack on November 19, 2003, 12:23:29 AM
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Hey Fester !
first off Love the map.
But the dang auto ack is WAY to leathal man.
And Hard as heck to kill even with 30mm and 20mm.
Is there any way to adjust it to be like the other maps?
I noticed it on a119
Thx .
Again thx fer the great map.
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FBcobra above me.
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Fester had nothing to do with ack leathality. Thats htc's department.
And..... 50cals are best ack killers...
k
AoM
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Originally posted by kappa
Fester had nothing to do with ack leathality. Thats htc's department.
And..... 50cals are best ack killers...
k
AoM
Well it still needs to be fixed then.
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I think you need to be fixed.
Deacking, if done correctly, is one of the easiest things to do.
Come in at a comfortably steep angle, fire a short burst of .50 cal, alter course (quick bank left/right and nudge back on the stick to line yourself for the next ack), fire a quick burst, rinse and repeat.
DO NOT wait to visibly see the ack being destroyed... you'll lose some parts guaranteed.
In heavily acked areas, work the edges first, and then make your way in. Dont expect to nail every ack in one pass. Patience is required.
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Oct don't you think I have tried that.
As well 4 other squad mates had the some issues with the ack at that field.
Now I might be a boob but not all my squadies are LOL.
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Originally posted by mrblack
Oct don't you think I have tried that.
As well 4 other squad mates had the some issues with the ack at that field.
Now I might be a boob but not all my squadies are LOL.
Bottomline...don't fly straight in the ack. The AI for the ack sucks at hitting manuevering targets. It excels at hitting targets that fly straight. Speed is not an issue.
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The ack is too lethal? Are you serious? If you and 3 squadies can't destroy the ack at a field with 20mm or 30mm... you really need to just hang up the spurs and try a different game. Either that or stop trying to convince everyone you're correct with your observation and actually listen to what they are saying.
MiniD
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Ack lethality was turned up sometime two tours ago.
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Originally posted by mrblack
Oct don't you think I have tried that.
As well 4 other squad mates had the some issues with the ack at that field.
Now I might be a boob but not all my squadies are LOL.
Um, obviously you haven't. Ack can't be lethal if it never hits your crate.
Now if it's accuracy you're complaining about, then start a new thread :)
Ya dolt, dont get hit! :D
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o 20mm 30mm ballistics are increasingly poor with range.
o Fly straight for too long at any range, you will die.
You are ignoring the above points, with predictable results. Likely you primary failing is you are waiting for the guns to die before you manuver for the next gun.
You cannot just sit there and wait for the gun to blow up. Wastes ammo and makes you easier to hit. Take your shot then immediately aim for the next, etc. etc.
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You dudes ate not reading this right!
i was not flying right at the ack.
And i opened up with 12.7 mm 20mm and 30 mm load out 109 G10
the ack locked on to me even while macking violent turns.
Anyway thanks for you/r tips:rolleyes:
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You were firing with three different types of gun, each with different ballistics and more than likely missing with every shot. To kill ack you need to be able to hit it while in the middle of evasive turns. Fly straight for a second and you'll get hit. If you and 3 of your squaddies can't deack a field together easily I recommend the following steps:
Go offline
Learn to shoot
Learn to deack
Get online
Go to TA with squaddies and practise deacking together
On another note mrblack, eere's some free advice to ponder:
Your signal:noise ratio is very low, even for a newbie. Try listening to what more experienced players are trying to teach you and you will get better. Keep insisting that your opinion is fact and you'll stay a newbie forever.
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noobie.
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the ack does seem about 2X as accurate on fester's map.
didn't he say something like there are quad 37mm's instead of the normal guns?
i know the VH bases have much more ack and you cant do 1 decent pass withough losing 1/2 a wing minnium (and YES i know how to de-ack... and am considered the best one @ it in the squad)
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Originally posted by NHattila
noobie.
Noobie huh LOL You'r a fool.
check out my squad dipchit.
Last tour one of my squad mates was ranked #1
And most others where under 100.
And im sorry who are you:rofl
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Rank is gamed so easily it's no basis for anything.
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Originally posted by Blue Mako
You were firing with three different types of gun, each with different ballistics and more than likely missing with every shot. To kill ack you need to be able to hit it while in the middle of evasive turns. Fly straight for a second and you'll get hit. If you and 3 of your squaddies can't deack a field together easily I recommend the following steps:
Go offline
Learn to shoot
Learn to deack
Get online
Go to TA with squaddies and practise deacking together
On another note mrblack, eere's some free advice to ponder:
Your signal:noise ratio is very low, even for a newbie. Try listening to what more experienced players are trying to teach you and you will get better. Keep insisting that your opinion is fact and you'll stay a newbie forever.
Did you bother reading the above post?
Or is reading a skill that has eluded you?
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Originally posted by Rutilant
Rank is gamed so easily it's no basis for anything.
Said by those with crappy ranks LOL:aok
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Originally posted by JB73
the ack does seem about 2X as accurate on fester's map.
didn't he say something like there are quad 37mm's instead of the normal guns?
i know the VH bases have much more ack and you cant do 1 decent pass withough losing 1/2 a wing minnium (and YES i know how to de-ack... and am considered the best one @ it in the squad)
Thx JB I was begining to think it might just be me.
:aok
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Originally posted by mrblack
Noobie huh LOL You'r a fool.
check out my squad dipchit.
Last tour one of my squad mates was ranked #1
And most others where under 100.
And im sorry who are you:rofl
How exactly is that relevant to anything they are talking about? My rank is really crappy, but I'm a pretty decent pilot. As far as the ack problem goes, just don't deack if it gives you that much grief.
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No you aren't! Estes is a noob!
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Originally posted by mrblack
Said by those with crappy ranks LOL:aok
Um? Check last tour. It's not #1 but it's not bad, considering i played more than twice that tour.
That was my scorepotato tour.. not very fun.
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Originally posted by Estes
How exactly is that relevant to anything they are talking about? My rank is really crappy, but I'm a pretty decent pilot. As far as the ack problem goes, just don't deack if it gives you that much grief.
It don't I was just responding to an idiot.
My point Is Auto ack aint got no buissnes in the Game Anyway.
If we are going to call it a Sim.
Now if you want to call it an arcade game that would be more accurate.
Cause last time I checked there where NO automated ack in WW2.
So to keep the game life like as possible do away with the arcade like auto ack.
And man the acks with people.
Is that too much?
Hell next the dang bombers wont need gunners they will just open up on you on there own:rolleyes:
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Tour 43 i was ranked 482
Tour 41 (under Rutilant) i was ranked 468
Tour 39 i was ranked 377
I was ranked around 190 for the beginning and towards the end of tour 39, but i took a break near the end.
I can pull a semi-decent score outta my arse whenever i need to or feel like it.
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Originally posted by Rutilant
Tour 43 i was ranked 482
Tour 41 (under Rutilant) i was ranked 468
Tour 39 i was ranked 377
I was ranked around 190 for the beginning and towards the end of tour 39, but i took a break near the end.
I can pull a semi-decent score outta my arse whenever i need to or feel like it.
Thats pretty good :aok
The point I was trying to make was the Feebirds aint no rookie squad!!.
We do pretty good Not the best yet but we are working on it.
We do have some outsatnding players like FBvirgle FBgrumbl
FBrapror and so on.............
I would do better ranking wise but I hate to fly bombers and GVs
LOL.
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I'm not great at anything.. Or very good anymore, i'm out of practice. I got the ACM part down but my aim is reeeeeeally poor :p
Then again, i can bomb at least.
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Originally posted by mrblack
Noobie huh LOL You'r a fool.
check out my squad dipchit.
Last tour one of my squad mates was ranked #1
And most others where under 100.
I'm ranked 1544 and I de-acked a field solo on festers map two days ago. If you and 3 squadies can't do it you must truly suck. Noobs thinking they're someone cause of rank... how sad.
MiniD
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Originally posted by mrblack
Did you bother reading the above post?
Or is reading a skill that has eluded you?
LOL
Are you asking if I read something that was posted AFTER my reply?
I responded to your statement that you fired all three guns on your 109, how could I do that if I didn't read your post?
Thinking is a skill that has eluded you.
As far as your arguments go, if four squadmates working together couldn't deack a field, even with the changes Fester made to gun number and location, then you need practise. Period.
And btw rank means absolutely squat.
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Originally posted by Mini D
I'm ranked 1544 and I de-acked a field solo on festers map two days ago. If you and 3 squadies can't do it you must truly suck. Noobs thinking they're someone cause of rank... how sad.
MiniD
1544 geez YOU do suck LOL:rofl
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Originally posted by Blue Mako
LOL
Are you asking if I read something that was posted AFTER my reply?
I responded to your statement that you fired all three guns on your 109, how could I do that if I didn't read your post?
Thinking is a skill that has eluded you.
As far as your arguments go, if four squadmates working together couldn't deack a field, even with the changes Fester made to gun number and location, then you need practise. Period.
And btw rank means absolutely squat.
I will meet you any time in the DA:aok
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DA? I love the DA, If he doesn't want to go, I'll go. :)
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Sheesh...another one that just don't get it.....:rolleyes:
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Kappa is a woman... pass it on.:p
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Originally posted by mrblack
I will meet you any time in the DA:aok
how about me? can i get in line for the ravaging?
:cool:
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Originally posted by Shane
how about me? can i get in line for the ravaging?
:cool:
Shane, there won't be enough of this baby seal to go around once I'm finished. If you ask nice I'll only use a small club though. ;)
black, if you see me online at the same time as you, I will gladly go to the DA on one condition: You promise to shut up once you've been wooped.
P.S. I've been ranked about 1000th for the last few tours. I'm sure the other guys on this board will tell you how much suckage I have to display to get that ranking...
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Originally posted by mrblack
1544 geez YOU do suck LOL:rofl
Never said otherwise. But then... I can de-ack a field and your squad can't.
MiniD
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Originally posted by Mini D
Never said otherwise. But then... I can de-ack a field and your squad can't.
MiniD
LOL what squad you in again?
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Originally posted by Blue Mako
Shane, there won't be enough of this baby seal to go around once I'm finished. If you ask nice I'll only use a small club though. ;)
black, if you see me online at the same time as you, I will gladly go to the DA on one condition: You promise to shut up once you've been wooped.
P.S. I've been ranked about 1000th for the last few tours. I'm sure the other guys on this board will tell you how much suckage I have to display to get that ranking...
Just meet me in the MA on wed nights.
Its my squads DA night .
you and me will find a nice quite field :aok
Oh LOL Shane you too:D
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mrblack, your uber-rank properly displays the magnitude of your greatness.
Why not make a wager to shut these foolish, no-skill bananas up?
Loser must make a thread with the title: "I suck. Sheep shag ME instead." - and explain who beat ya and how bad.
Yeah! That'll teach those no-rank fools.
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give him a break... he is a ninja and in a squad that is named after the worst/sappiest song ever written by skynard.
lazs
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I have $10 on MrBlack. You never know... if he wins, I'm a rich man.
-- Todd/Leviathn
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Originally posted by lazs2
give him a break... he is a ninja and in a squad that is named after the worst/sappiest song ever written by skynard.
lazs
perhapes.
but we seem to take evry base we want:rofl
But then again when you have close to 50 members thats pretty easy.:rofl
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Are these the same FBs I've seen work their "magic" on an undefended base before? They had one P-51 for every hangar and fuel at the field, and each plane then plowed Kamikazi-style into the structure it wished to destroy, jettisoning bombs and rockets at the minimum possible altitude before taking a quick trip back to the tower to do it again.
The result? One porked base but hardly something to go bragging about on the forums.
-- Todd/Leviathn
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Lol I love this thread!!!
While I have nuttin against the FB's as a squad...this mrblack dude is a classic.... In for the schooling sessions on Wednesday DA... Shane a little time for a couple of rounds w/ me?
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Originally posted by Dead Man Flying
Are these the same FBs I've seen work their "magic" on an undefended base before? They had one P-51 for every hangar and fuel at the field, and each plane then plowed Kamikazi-style into the structure it wished to destroy, jettisoning bombs and rockets at the minimum possible altitude before taking a quick trip back to the tower to do it again.
The result? One porked base but hardly something to go bragging about on the forums.
-- Todd/Leviathn
We take bases like yo momma takes all cumers
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Originally posted by Steve
Lol I love this thread!!!
While I have nuttin against the FB's as a squad...this mrblack dude is a classic.... In for the schooling sessions on Wednesday DA... Shane a little time for a couple of rounds w/ me?
You must enjoy being spanked LOL
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Actually, I enjoy myself in the DA, win or lose. If I lose, I tend to learn something. ? Your smack talking could lead you to trouble... I'm sure several will have film on.. ready to post in this thread.
I won't know who to look for in the DA, what is your cpid?
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Fbcobra
And if you beat me I will give a
Cause to me all this watermelon is is fun.
Even the smack talkin it's all funny to me.
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Cool. do you guys get a lot off guys in the DA on Wednesdays? Having 10 or 20 guys going at it sounds like a good time.
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yeah wed is our squad DA night.
We like to go there and kill each other lOL.
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Originally posted by Dead Man Flying
Are these the same FBs I've seen work their "magic" on an undefended base before? They had one P-51 for every hangar and fuel at the field, and each plane then plowed Kamikazi-style into the structure it wished to destroy, jettisoning bombs and rockets at the minimum possible altitude before taking a quick trip back to the tower to do it again.
Seems like proxy heaven.
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Maybe ur just pissed cause we had the # 1 player last tour LOL.
FB virgil
Don't be mad not every one can be FREEBIRDS.
:aok
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Originally posted by mrblack
Maybe ur just pissed cause we had the # 1 player last tour LOL.
FB virgil
Don't be mad not every one can be FREEBIRDS.
:aok
mrblack OBVIOUSLY doesn't get it. Rank/Points in a game like this have one purpose...and only one. Give dweebs some way to measure their perceived virility. Hell, give me 2 weeks and I can have the rankest dweeb scoring in the top 20 consistantly. The most difficult thing about maintaining a high rank is overcoming the boredom. Vulch, spawn camp, milkrun and suicide bombing are all that it takes :).
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Mrblack, I think I know the perfect squad for you. You'd fit right in. Talk to CDR Akira, he needs some like-minded individuals in his squad.
http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=52499
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Originally posted by WldThing
Seems like proxy heaven.
How do ya think I knew it was the FBs? :)
-- Todd/Leviathn
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Originally posted by mrblack
Maybe ur just pissed cause we had the # 1 player last tour LOL.
FB virgil
You obviously don't understand that very few of us care about rank. I play Aces High for enjoyment, and I measure my success by how much fun I'm having. Rank is a superficial criteria that hardly gauges skill or enjoyment, and many of us choose to ignore it.
I don't even remember the last time I grabbed a bomber or a ground vehicle. Woe is me for my lowly rank!
-- Todd/Leviathn
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Originally posted by Dead Man Flying
How do ya think I knew it was the FBs? :)
-- Todd/Leviathn
So thats how you rack up them double digit sorties?? Ya bastad!! I knew you had no skill!!
:p
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Originally posted by Dead Man Flying
You obviously don't understand that very few of us care about rank. I play Aces High for enjoyment, and I measure my success by how much fun I'm having. Rank is a superficial criteria that hardly gauges skill or enjoyment, and many of us choose to ignore it.
I don't even remember the last time I grabbed a bomber or a ground vehicle. Woe is me for my lowly rank!
-- Todd/Leviathn
LOL thats obvious
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black... I know that leviathn is no way near as good as you or your squaddies at this but.... if you give me the right odds.... say 5/1... I would be willing to put a bet on the king of clumsy, leviathn, but.... you have to listen to freebird (tweet tweet) the whole time on a headset.
lazs
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Originally posted by Steve
Cool. do you guys get a lot off guys in the DA on Wednesdays? Having 10 or 20 guys going at it sounds like a good time.
Really, Im gonna have to make it one of these Wednesdays. Havnt been there for couple months and am getting very rusty.
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Originally posted by Dead Man Flying
Are these the same FBs I've seen work their "magic" on an undefended base before? They had one P-51 for every hangar and fuel at the field, and each plane then plowed Kamikazi-style into the structure it wished to destroy, jettisoning bombs and rockets at the minimum possible altitude before taking a quick trip back to the tower to do it again.
The result? One porked base but hardly something to go bragging about on the forums.
-- Todd/Leviathn
Lev let me start off by saying this to u.......
Yes FB Missions have guys that face plant, But the FB guys themselves have a 99% hit ratio on any target we aim to destroy.... We believe in having only PROFISANT Pilots and spend Hours training our guys in every asspect of the game.... And we also have a 90-98.8% base capture rate when we destroy it even with defence so as u can see we r no NOOB Squad:mad:
As a matter of fact we had 205 Base Captures alone Last tour, add another 25-30 or more Captures from FB Missions And FB's hardly ever take a goon in our own missions Due to the fact we assign our ppl as Flight leads :aok
In closing and this goes to the For the entire AH Community.... We Freebirds do not verbally attack any squad unless prevocted.
I presonally frown upon bringing anyones squad into a private dispute... So i employ u all to leave squad names out of threads like this unless using them as an exsample like what Mr.Black did.
I thank u all and >>S<< See yea in the Skys
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Originally posted by FBJoker
We believe in having only PROFISANT Pilots and spend Hours training our guys in every asspect of the game.... And we also have a 90-98.8% base capture rate when we destroy it even with defence so as u can see we r no NOOB Squad:mad:
Obviously you want PROFICIENT pilots but not literate ones... ;)
Looking at the stats for FBdred's squad for this tour, the FBs need:
1643 Fighter sorties
252 Bomber sorties
530 Attack sorties
933 Vehicle sorties
for 16 field captures
This equates to 209.9 sorties per capture.
Being kind and leaving out fighter sorties is 1,715 sorties, giving 107.2 sorties per field capture.
Combined squad fighter k/d is 0.745
Combined attack k/d is 1.072
Combined vehicle k/d is 0.996
Looks to me like you guys are still noobies, either that or you really need to learn how to capture a field without screaming "kamikaze". Wouldn't hurt to brush up on your air-to-air skills either.
Oh, and if you think I wouldn't know, just FYI my personal record against FBdred's squad is better than 5:1 in all vehicles...
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Originally posted by Blue Mako
Obviously you want PROFICIENT pilots but not literate ones... ;)
Looking at the stats for FBdred's squad for this tour, the FBs need:
1643 Fighter sorties
252 Bomber sorties
530 Attack sorties
933 Vehicle sorties
for 16 field captures
This equates to 209.9 sorties per capture.
Being kind and leaving out fighter sorties is 1,715 sorties, giving 107.2 sorties per field capture.
Combined squad fighter k/d is 0.745
Combined attack k/d is 1.072
Combined vehicle k/d is 0.996
Looks to me like you guys are still noobies, either that or you really need to learn how to capture a field without screaming "kamikaze". Wouldn't hurt to brush up on your air-to-air skills either.
Oh, and if you think I wouldn't know, just FYI my personal record against FBdred's squad is better than 5:1 in all vehicles...
Ok I'll give u that one for dreds squad, but u failed to look @ the squad as a whole. Did u even look take the time to look and add in the other wing under FBRaptor. any way u go having 40+ members and alot of new pilots in the last few months takes time to train and makes it even harder to maintane good K/D ratio's . I mean after all we r only the 2nd largest squad in the game.
But hey what do i know i've only been here a year.
Being that this is my first time ever playing a Online sim/game
Call me a Noob i dont care, your opion of me and my squadmates is just that your opion. So that and a cowpatty might get u a few mushrooms. Hey Just a thought :lol :rofl
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Originally posted by Blue Mako
Obviously you want PROFICIENT pilots but not literate ones... ;)
Looking at the stats for FBdred's squad for this tour, the FBs need:
1643 Fighter sorties
252 Bomber sorties
530 Attack sorties
933 Vehicle sorties
for 16 field captures
This equates to 209.9 sorties per capture.
Being kind and leaving out fighter sorties is 1,715 sorties, giving 107.2 sorties per field capture.
Combined squad fighter k/d is 0.745
Combined attack k/d is 1.072
Combined vehicle k/d is 0.996
Looks to me like you guys are still noobies, either that or you really need to learn how to capture a field without screaming "kamikaze". Wouldn't hurt to brush up on your air-to-air skills either.
Oh, and if you think I wouldn't know, just FYI my personal record against FBdred's squad is better than 5:1 in all vehicles...
LOL dipchit why don't you look at a completed tour?
Like last tour!
Gee who had the #1 player?
And look at both wings.
I think our score will be just fine thank you.
And I ask again WHO ARE YOU Funny I have nevver heard or seen you in the MA.
Do you even belong to a squad?:rofl
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Blue Mako
Senior Member
Registered: Apr 2001
Location: Down Under (Syd-a-knee)
Posts: 1240
LOL you'r one to talk about spelling:aok
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Originally posted by mrblack
Do you even belong to a squad?:rofl
BLUEmako
A "Runstang Weenie" and proud of it.
412thFS "Braunco Mustangs"
Smells like a squad duel brewing. This should be funny.
-Sik
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Hehe... stats in the MA actually have meaning?
You guys crack me up.
Get the duel on already...
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Originally posted by mrblack
LOL dipchit why don't you look at a completed tour?
Why, are all of your squad's deaths going to magically disappear at the end of the tour, leaving a score to be proud of?
I doubt it and frankly I don't even care.
Like last tour!
Gee who had the #1 player?
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A good rank is not an indicator of skill. I pity you if you think otherwise. Individual stats indicate skill in some areas but overall rank doesn't mean a thing.
And look at both wings.
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Why, are you ashamed to only look at your own part of the squad? Gotta hang on to someone elses shirt to try and say you aren't a newbie?
I think our score will be just fine thank you.
And I ask again WHO ARE YOU Funny I have nevver heard or seen you in the MA.
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If you continue to fly in the same manner that your current tour stats show your score will be anything but "fine". As I asked before, are you expecting your squad's deaths to magically disappear from the score logs at the end of the tour?
Fly in Aussie prime time and you'll see me.
You probably wouldn't notice me in the MA anyway because you're too busy screaming "banzai" and planting your plane in a building, contributing to your squads fantastic sortie/capture ratio.
And exactly when did you ask me who I was before? I think you really need to engage your brain before hitting the keyboard.
Do you even belong to a squad?:rofl
I'm not surprised you don't know how to read a sig line and/or look up a player's squad. Refer to above comment.
If you see me online, I'll meet ya wherever on one condition: The tardness stops when you get sent back to the tower. If you can't guarantee that then I won't waste my time.
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Originally posted by Sikboy
Smells like a squad duel brewing. This should be funny.
That would take effort and frankly it wouldn't be worth it... ;)
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Originally posted by mrblack
Hey Fester !
first off Love the map.
But the dang auto ack is WAY to leathal man.
And Hard as heck to kill even with 30mm and 20mm.
Is there any way to adjust it to be like the other maps?
I noticed it on a119
Thx .
Again thx fer the great map.
Did anyone notice that the question was posed to fester?
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Originally posted by Blue Mako
That would take effort and frankly it wouldn't be worth it... ;)
You might wanna try the Omega drivers.
they give much better picture quality.
And yeppers I would love to deul ya any time.
As with anyone If you woop up on my I will give ya a big
Cause the Freebirds Are good losers as well as winners.
It's all a game m8.
Ps Checked out you'r squad web page.
Nice.
I also see you are a diver!
Me to Padi dive master .
Never been down under but wife has.
Oh well back to slinging barbs LOL
No lets fight you silly aussie.