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Title: Does RUmsfeld know......
Post by: fffreeze220 on November 19, 2003, 03:50:43 AM
that Bush is in Europe ? Did some 1 show him on the map where it is ?
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Post by: Nilsen on November 19, 2003, 04:04:51 AM
rumsfeld and his buddies has prolly done several simulated nuke attacks on london, so they know where it is :D
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Post by: Gunslinger on November 19, 2003, 04:05:04 AM
ummmm.....why do you ask?????????     Do you really think the secdef doesnt know were europe is or that the president is currently there.


Are you as stupid as your thread makes you out to be
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Post by: Nilsen on November 19, 2003, 04:08:42 AM
I think you may have hooked one freeze :D
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Post by: fffreeze220 on November 19, 2003, 04:25:18 AM
LoL Nilsen :) yep i have :D
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Post by: Gunslinger on November 19, 2003, 04:26:07 AM
did I fall for the troll (DOGHE...in my best homer simson voice)
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/ah_176_1067114113.jpg)
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Post by: Saurdaukar on November 19, 2003, 06:50:08 AM
What is a 'Europe?'
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Post by: Vermillion on November 19, 2003, 07:00:41 AM
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What is a 'Europe?'


Saurdaukar, Isn't that something like the "Fantasy Land part of Disney?!?!"  :lol
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Post by: ravells on November 19, 2003, 07:04:06 AM
Now don't be nasty....we invented you. :)

Ravs
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Post by: Nilsen on November 19, 2003, 07:25:58 AM
not our finest hour ravs :D
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Post by: muckmaw on November 19, 2003, 07:51:12 AM
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Originally posted by Nilsen10
not our finest hour ravs :D


Do we have to do the whole 'We saved your arnold from a horde of goose-stepping lunatics?";)
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Post by: Naso on November 19, 2003, 07:51:54 AM
Yeah!

:D
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Post by: fffreeze220 on November 19, 2003, 08:31:07 AM
Hehe i started a troll thread YEA :)
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Post by: ravells on November 19, 2003, 08:34:27 AM
But Muck....you arrived 3 years late! :p
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Post by: GRUNHERZ on November 19, 2003, 08:39:20 AM
Funny Rummy and Bush dont know georgraphy!!!  :) What a knee-slapper!!!!  HEEEE LAAAAR IUUS!

However you guys should be more happy that Al Qaeda still hasnt found europe on their maps, though with the recent bombings in Turkey I'm not sure how much longer you kids will be able to mainatin this distant smugness about our efforts and ultimately joint responsibility in the global battle against the extremist islamic terror ideology....


:aok
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Post by: muckmaw on November 19, 2003, 08:43:32 AM
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Originally posted by ravells
But Muck....you arrived 3 years late! :p


We had to stop twice to get directions....;)
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Post by: fffreeze220 on November 19, 2003, 08:44:10 AM
Woha Mr. USA showed up. Now it will become funny :D

BTW look how effective ur anti terror camapain is. Where is Osama ? Where is Saddam ?
Who made both of them Strong ? USA is producing their own enemy. Thats what it is. :aok
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Post by: Ripsnort on November 19, 2003, 08:48:30 AM
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ


However you guys should be more happy that Al Qaeda still hasnt found europe on their maps, though with the recent bombings in Turkey I'm not sure how much longer you kids will be able to mainatin this distant smugness about our efforts and ultimately joint responsibility in the global battle against the extremist islamic terror ideology....




SHACK!
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Post by: GRUNHERZ on November 19, 2003, 08:49:32 AM
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Originally posted by fffreeze220
Woha Mr. USA showed up. Now it will become funny :D


These bizzare euro whine threads are always funny! :)
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Post by: Dowding on November 19, 2003, 08:51:19 AM
Not as funny as the self-pitying 'poor old US' threads though!
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Post by: GRUNHERZ on November 19, 2003, 08:53:43 AM
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Originally posted by Dowding
Not as funny as the self-pitying 'poor old US' threads though!


Poor old US?  I though we were a bunch of brash young undisiplined agressive uncultured cowboys... Please Dowding, do take care keep to your insults consitent...  :eek:
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Post by: Dowding on November 19, 2003, 08:55:39 AM
So no-one ever *****es about 'anti-US' posts... Riiiiiiiight.
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Post by: GRUNHERZ on November 19, 2003, 09:01:56 AM
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Originally posted by Dowding
So no-one ever *****es about 'anti-US' posts... Riiiiiiiight.


Is this where you interject some compltely unrelated point for some reason known only to you?  What on earth does what you just said have anything to do with our little exchange in the last few posts...  Are you suggesting we US guys cant argue aginst anti US posts?
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Post by: Dowding on November 19, 2003, 09:04:17 AM
You asked for clarification about the 'self-pitying' remark and received it. Do I really have to join the dots for you?
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Post by: GRUNHERZ on November 19, 2003, 09:08:15 AM
Well actually yes Dowding, I need you to clarify it beacuse your thinking seems very odd. Am I to take it that you  view standing up to insults directed at your people to be an act of self-pity?
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Post by: lazs2 on November 19, 2003, 09:08:27 AM
well... if the terrorists find england it will be no big deal... just leave milk and cookies out and lock yourselves in your safe rooms till they go away.
lazs
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Post by: GRUNHERZ on November 19, 2003, 09:10:36 AM
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Originally posted by lazs2
well... if the terrorists find england it will be no big deal... just leave milk and cookies out and lock yourselves in your safe rooms till they go away.
lazs


I think that the current Euro stance on this global terror ideology is precisely that lazs.  They hope that somehow, perhaps magically, it will just go away and leave them alone.
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Post by: Dowding on November 19, 2003, 09:21:27 AM
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Am I to take it that you view standing up to insults directed at your people to be an act of self-pity?


It is when it becomes a knee-jerk reaction to each and every remark concerning US foreign policy. You know exactly what I am talking about.

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well... if the terrorists find england it will be no big deal... just leave milk and cookies out and lock yourselves in your safe rooms till they go away.


Funny. What you say makes sense, because Britain has never experienced terrorism before. What on earth shall we do? Save us Lazs!
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Post by: Naso on November 19, 2003, 09:28:11 AM
"Hic sunt leones"

;)
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Post by: GRUNHERZ on November 19, 2003, 09:36:31 AM
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Originally posted by Dowding
It is when it becomes a knee-jerk reaction to each and every remark concerning US foreign policy. You know exactly what I am talking about.
 


Well no I don't Dowding, it's not so clear cut. Your perception, as somebody who is opposed to the USA in this case, is much different on this matter than mine as an American who supports his nation. It's very likely that we have different understandings of what rises to the level of a knee jerk reaction. Likewise I'm sure you dont view your objections to certain US policies as a knee-jerk reaction even though I might see it as such in certain cases...
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Post by: GRUNHERZ on November 19, 2003, 09:40:00 AM
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Originally posted by Dowding
Funny. What you say makes sense, because Britain has never experienced terrorism before. What on earth shall we do? Save us Lazs!


And you were evil imperialist nazi religiously intollerant bastards for your behavior in Ireland. You baby killers!!! You were only fighting in northern Irealand to pkacate yoyr religious extremists who wanted to poress the poor suffering catholic natives of ireland. Pull out the troops...  NO WAR FOR PROTESTANTISM!!!  How you like that Dowding?
 
:aok
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Post by: muckmaw on November 19, 2003, 10:11:27 AM
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Originally posted by fffreeze220
Woha Mr. USA showed up. Now it will become funny :D

BTW look how effective ur anti terror camapain is. Where is Osama ? Where is Saddam ?
Who made both of them Strong ? USA is producing their own enemy. Thats what it is. :aok


Seems to be going well, actually. Nothing blowing up in the Good Ol' USA so I'm a happy camper today.

Saddam and Osama...We'll get them eventually. Feel free to lend a hand anytime.
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Post by: muckmaw on November 19, 2003, 10:12:58 AM
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
I think that the current Euro stance on this global terror ideology is precisely that lazs.  They hope that somehow, perhaps magically, it will just go away and leave them alone.



Did'nt they do that with Hitler for the first few years.

I think they called it "Appeasement" and "Containment".

How'd that work out?
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Post by: ravells on November 19, 2003, 10:17:47 AM
You might also want to add 'isolationist' to that list, Muck ;)
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Post by: muckmaw on November 19, 2003, 10:18:54 AM
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Originally posted by ravells
You might also want to add 'isolationist' to that list, Muck ;)


Does'nt work so good unless ya got a couple of oceans around you.;)
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Post by: ravells on November 19, 2003, 10:22:02 AM
Except when the Japs have carriers...

Ravs
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Post by: muckmaw on November 19, 2003, 10:35:58 AM
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Originally posted by ravells
Except when the Japs have carriers...

Ravs


Yeah, how'd they do with those..

Did you get the final score on that one?

Lemme check my sheet..

Ah...

Japan.....Pearl Harbor
USA.......Hiroshima

We'll just put this one in the "W" column....
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Post by: ravells on November 19, 2003, 10:41:27 AM
Lol! Wasn't arguing about who won...

But what I was hinting at was that if it hadn't have been for Pearl Harbour you guys could well have sat out of WW2. (BTW I'm very glad you didn't)

:)

Ravs
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Post by: muckmaw on November 19, 2003, 10:51:13 AM
Thats the problem, though, Ravs.

Some folks in this country think we can simply close our eyes and the problems of the world will go away.

Howard Dean McGoven is one such person. And unfortunately for the democratic party, he is the front runner to win the nomination for the 04 election.

Imagine if you will, if the United States sat out WWII. If people did not have the strength to stand up to people holding a knife to the throat of the civilized world.

Imagine if you will, the Isolationists, and Appeasers were in power in the US at that time.

How different would the world look? No one will ever know.

Now apply the same doctrine of the appeasement crowd to global terrorism.

You see why I am so worried?

*PS, saw a documentary last week on the Blitz. I sat and watched how the Nazi's killed your nations children without remorse, and was disgusted anew. I was expecially bothered by that ship with 170 childred who were fleeing to Canada which was topredo's by the nazi sub. to your brave ancestors.
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Post by: lord dolf vader on November 19, 2003, 11:26:41 AM
the policys of one twisted unamerican party are not america.

i am an american veteran who thinks gw2 is a dangerous twit along with his other credits from public drunk to wartime deserter and cocain abusor.

but rumsfeld is evil, strait up bad man as unamerican as they come.

in our defense most americans voted against these idiots. we just have a absolutly moraly bankrupt party in power, elections to come.
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Post by: rabbidrabbit on November 19, 2003, 12:08:18 PM
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in our defense most americans voted against these idiots. we just have a absolutly moraly bankrupt party in power, elections to come. [/B]



YA...  we could use more people of high moral scruples like Clinton... ya.. that's it...  he my hero!
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Post by: rpm on November 19, 2003, 12:49:13 PM
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
did I fall for the troll (DOGHE...in my best homer simson voice)
 


What the hell is a DOGHE? A male dog? A man dressed as a dog?
I think you mean D'oh...(insert low intellect Marine remark here)
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Post by: ravells on November 19, 2003, 02:34:31 PM
Thanks Muck

FWIW, I think that global terrorism is an entirely different ball game to conventional war (obvious statement, I know).

Of course the US must be involved in global politics, but it's a two way street - in that if the US is to retain any credibility in global politics she should play the game and listen to what the rest of the world are saying.

It may be that the UK/US decision to invade Iraq was the right one - we shall never know because we will never know how the alternative would have panned out.

What gets me mad is that I swallowed the WMD line and was 'pro war' until I found out that I had been lied to. Trying to now justify it on the grounds that we got rid of a mad dictator doesn't alter the fact that I was lied to on an issue where honesty ought to have been paramount.

I shall not be voting for Tony Blair at the next election.

Ravs

p.s. the Imperial War Museum had a special exhibit on the kids that died in that merchantman sinking. Some of the letters were so touching that many of the people reading them were in tears.
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Post by: DmdNexus on November 19, 2003, 02:51:21 PM
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Originally posted by rabbidrabbit
YA...  we could use more people of high moral scruples like Clinton... ya.. that's it...  he my hero!


You American puritan hypocrits....

I don't have exact statistics... but I think most of you will agree because this has been reported over and over...

In most marriages, there is some infidelity...
Most people have had multiple partners even when they told each partner they were monogamous... usually when they are younger and irresponsible.

Having consentual sex with someone doesn't make someone immoral...,.and that's what Clinton did in the oval office.

JFK screwed around.... that's common knowledge.
Clinton screwed around.. that's common knowledge.

Is Clinton a sexual preditor - yep he sure is.... just like most CEO's and Congressmen... and Religious televangulist.

The only thing Ken Star could get Clinton on after 7 years of being his Personal Prosecutor was lying about having sex.

Clinton was a fool to lie under oath.... yet he still got acquitted.
And Monica got the cigar....

Bush would screw around on his wife too if he could get it up.. but because he's an alcoholic and cocain user it won't inflate!
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Post by: ravells on November 19, 2003, 02:56:40 PM
Let me put myself forward as the President's warm up man for Laura - she's lovely!

Can't we have her for president instead?

Ravs
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Post by: AKIron on November 19, 2003, 02:57:20 PM
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Originally posted by fffreeze220
USA is producing their own enemy. Thats what it is. :aok


The enemies of freedom are those who would oppress and enslave. I think it's ok, maybe even good that we have a few enemies. How many do you have?
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Post by: mrblack on November 19, 2003, 03:41:36 PM
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Originally posted by fffreeze220
Woha Mr. USA showed up. Now it will become funny :D

BTW look how effective ur anti terror camapain is. Where is Osama ? Where is Saddam ?
Who made both of them Strong ? USA is producing their own enemy. Thats what it is. :aok


Like it or not there is some truth to freezes statement!
America did create these frankenstiens:(
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Post by: Torque on November 19, 2003, 03:58:09 PM
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Originally posted by mrblack
Like it or not there is some truth to freezes statement!
America did create these frankenstiens:(


The conservative with the liberal conscience, mrblack the enigma of sorts.:aok
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Post by: mrblack on November 19, 2003, 04:00:49 PM
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Originally posted by Torque
The conservative with the liberal conscience, mrblack the enigma of sorts.:aok


No I'm a realist really:aok
I don't like the Idea that my government screwed up but it did in this case.
Now it will cost many many lives and billions of dollars to fix.
Geezus how I hate polatitions.
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Post by: rabbidrabbit on November 19, 2003, 07:10:43 PM
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Originally posted by DmdNexus
You American puritan hypocrits....

I don't have exact statistics... but I think most of you will agree because this has been reported over and over...

In most marriages, there is some infidelity...
Most people have had multiple partners even when they told each partner they were monogamous... usually when they are younger and irresponsible.

Having consentual sex with someone doesn't make someone immoral...,.and that's what Clinton did in the oval office.

JFK screwed around.... that's common knowledge.
Clinton screwed around.. that's common knowledge.

Is Clinton a sexual preditor - yep he sure is.... just like most CEO's and Congressmen... and Religious televangulist.

The only thing Ken Star could get Clinton on after 7 years of being his Personal Prosecutor was lying about having sex.

Clinton was a fool to lie under oath.... yet he still got acquitted.
And Monica got the cigar....

Bush would screw around on his wife too if he could get it up.. but because he's an alcoholic and cocain user it won't inflate!



umm.. ya... thanks for going so far out of your way to prove my point...  he is a sleaze bag....
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Post by: Kieran on November 19, 2003, 08:32:45 PM
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Funny. What you say makes sense, because Britain has never experienced terrorism before. What on earth shall we do? Save us Lazs!


I guess Lockerbie was a big misunderstanding.
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Post by: Dowding on November 20, 2003, 02:55:37 AM
It must have been in Lazs eyes, Kieran.

BTW, I was being sarcastic.