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Title: Poll: Dish or cable
Post by: Gunslinger on November 22, 2003, 12:55:24 PM
I have to say I'm impressed.  After years of putting up with Adelphia's crappy service and selection I got a dish in three rooms with more channles for cheaper.  

I ALMOST wanted to hug the installer like in the comercial but I resisted.  In a couple months I shall add TIVO and my life will almost be complete.:D
Title: Poll: Dish or cable
Post by: mrblack on November 22, 2003, 01:01:18 PM
I love the dish as well.
But when i comes a bid rain storm It goes out due to interference.
But a small price to pay I think.
Title: Poll: Dish or cable
Post by: Sundiver on November 22, 2003, 01:46:27 PM
I think the dish is certainly the better source for television assuming you have a means other than cable for high-speed access.

 I am curious though. Why use Tivio when you can purchase a TV card for your computer for under 50 bucks and record direct to your HD AND watch tv on your computer? What's the advantage of a TIVO type device over a television capture card?
Title: Poll: Dish or cable
Post by: Martlet on November 22, 2003, 01:53:35 PM
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Originally posted by Sundiver
I think the dish is certainly the better source for television assuming you have a means other than cable for high-speed access.

 I am curious though. Why use Tivio when you can purchase a TV card for your computer for under 50 bucks and record direct to your HD AND watch tv on your computer? What's the advantage of a TIVO type device over a television capture card?


My computer screen is 21 inches.

My tv is 53.
Title: Poll: Dish or cable
Post by: Sundiver on November 22, 2003, 01:55:19 PM
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Originally posted by Martlet
My computer screen is 21 inches.

My tv is 53.


Ever hear of something called video out?
Title: Poll: Dish or cable
Post by: Martlet on November 22, 2003, 02:02:17 PM
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Originally posted by Sundiver
Ever hear of something called video out?


Sure, if I care to move my tv to my office, my computer to my tv, or run a cable across my house.

Tivo is easier.  I set the programs I want it to record, and it records them.
Title: Poll: Dish or cable
Post by: Raubvogel on November 22, 2003, 02:47:31 PM
Direct TV is the bomb
Title: Poll: Dish or cable
Post by: FUNKED1 on November 22, 2003, 03:03:46 PM
DirecTV with TiVo.  Integrated unit with 2 tuners.  :aok
Title: Poll: Dish or cable
Post by: FUNKED1 on November 22, 2003, 03:06:49 PM
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Originally posted by Sundiver
I think the dish is certainly the better source for television assuming you have a means other than cable for high-speed access.

 I am curious though. Why use Tivio when you can purchase a TV card for your computer for under 50 bucks and record direct to your HD AND watch tv on your computer? What's the advantage of a TIVO type device over a television capture card?


I've yet to see a TV tuner card that can decode dish signals.

The DirecTV/TiVo units have two tuners built in.  The software is great (integrated with the programming guide), so it finds what you want, and uses the tuners to record it, even if I'm asleep or not home.
Title: Poll: Dish or cable
Post by: Dinger on November 22, 2003, 03:15:47 PM
Yeah TV cards on computers:

A) Well, they do include recording software, and even timeshifting.  Of course, many of the card manufacturers run the audio into the computer via a line in, so in order to get Tivo-like timeshifting, you'll need to have the live audio enabled == worthless.

B) If you're watching a lot of TV, why tie up the computer?

C) In any case, a tv-in solution has to sit on top of windows, video card drivers and audio card drivers.  It's just not optimal.
Title: Poll: Dish or cable
Post by: Sundiver on November 22, 2003, 05:52:59 PM
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Originally posted by Dinger
Yeah TV cards on computers:

A) Well, they do include recording software, and even timeshifting.  Of course, many of the card manufacturers run the audio into the computer via a line in, so in order to get Tivo-like timeshifting, you'll need to have the live audio enabled == worthless.

B) If you're watching a lot of TV, why tie up the computer?

C) In any case, a tv-in solution has to sit on top of windows, video card drivers and audio card drivers.  It's just not optimal.


Truly? I run mine under Linux so wouldn't know about the windows issues but I get full surround sound on my Bose speakers right out of the computer. But my tuner card doesn't use line in so that may be the difference. It has full search functions and uses TV Guide online. Guess it's just a matter of different tastes. With wireless I can broadcast direct from the computer to the TV.
Title: Poll: Dish or cable
Post by: rpm on November 22, 2003, 06:06:58 PM
I have had Dish Network since '99. Will NEVER go cable again. Yeah, when a big storm cloud is in line with the dish it does go out...but in 5 min or so it's back. With cable, a big storm would knock it out and in 2-3 days it would come back on. Plus Dish Network is cheaper than DirecTv. Too bad the merger got nixed.
Title: Poll: Dish or cable
Post by: Sixpence on November 22, 2003, 06:12:18 PM
NFL Sunday ticket.
Title: Poll: Dish or cable
Post by: OIO on November 22, 2003, 06:21:54 PM
I work for a cable company.

I use Direct TV at home.


The ONLY two advantages cable has over dish is that cable alllows you to have (if you pay for the service), Video on Demand.

(aka, if you missed BAND OF BROTHERS and have HBO VOD, you can simply menu over and tell HBO to play it for you)

and that cable can carry broadband internet connection.

Dish has a ****load more channels, waaaay cheaper (100 channels cable in my area= $64, 600+channels in dish for $40).

Dish's only drawbacks are the LOS (storms you lose signal for a few mins) and the 'digitizing' issue (signal not received correctly, birds crapping on your dish, etc.. makes the 'black boxes' and 'screeches' in your screen).

But, as the original poster said, dish's problems usually last only a few minutes. If something screws up with cable, its a few days wait for the cable tech.
Title: Poll: Dish or cable
Post by: Halo on November 22, 2003, 06:47:11 PM
I gotta put in a good word for Comcast digital cable.  Pricey, but great pic and great options, especially with Video On Demand via the cable tuner's 80-meg hard drive.  

Finally now I'm in charge of my TV programming and can watch what I want when I want, and even pause and rerun live TV programs.  Couldn't be easier -- light years away from VHS quality and recording challenges.  

Use it for TV and computer.  Once you have it, would be very difficult to go back to anything slower or less quality.  

The underground cable is generally very reliable and provides digital quality pics, and Comcast always responds very quickly to any calls for service or tech support.
Title: Poll: Dish or cable
Post by: Gunslinger on November 22, 2003, 07:24:45 PM
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Originally posted by Sundiver
I think the dish is certainly the better source for television assuming you have a means other than cable for high-speed access.

 I am curious though. Why use Tivio when you can purchase a TV card for your computer for under 50 bucks and record direct to your HD AND watch tv on your computer? What's the advantage of a TIVO type device over a television capture card?


with tivo I can record one thing, watch another...i can watch somthing from the begining thats been recording for however long.  

I can pause live broadcast....instant replay....Its really no that much money and I really dont want to tie up my computer like that
Title: Poll: Dish or cable
Post by: Martlet on November 22, 2003, 09:14:58 PM
I use Comcast.  I pray to the cable gods that the day I can drop them comes quickly.

I HATE Comcast.
Title: Poll: Dish or cable
Post by: capt. apathy on November 22, 2003, 10:11:21 PM
I've had comcast for awhile (just the cheap channles)  they are acutually free with the cable internet.

my parents have the dish, and that's a nightmare for me.  the wiring was hooked up for them by the guy who installed the dish.  between the dish , the vcr, the dvd, and the tv remote, my father can have it so screwed up that he can't watch it about 3 times a week.

he will actually watch 2 hours of tv he doesn't want to see because he's afraid if he tries to change a chanle he wont be able to watch tv again until someone can come over and fix it.

it may be less of a mess if I'd hooked it up myself, but it's pretty screwed up as it is.

we did finally get the situation workable by setting everything up to a universal remote.  then taking the origanals to my house, and taking apart the universal and cutting off all of the buttons except volume and chanle up and down.


btw- he had no problem with cable.
Title: Poll: Dish or cable
Post by: GRUNHERZ on November 22, 2003, 10:30:12 PM
Absoloutely 100%, no doubt about it - Dish! I have DirectTV.