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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Minotaur on September 27, 2000, 10:24:00 AM
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Lately there has been more whine than normal about 1 or 2 planes dominating the MA. Especially with the new FM in effect. I am admittedly against "whine for the sake of it", but it got me to thinking. I took a look at some numbers, to my embaressment I realized "They could be right!"
Presented are numbers for K/D Ratios and Total Use(TU). (Total Use = Kill + Die) These numbers are not absolute and I consider them relative feeling type numbers for analysis only.
IMO K/D represents the relative competativness plane. The TU number represents how much the particular plane gets used. A high K/D combined with a high TU IMO represents how successful overall the plane is in the MA.
Presented are number for fighters only. I have not factured out ground vehicle or bomber kills. Therefore the data is somewhat raw.
Tour 6 Tour 7 Tour 8
K/D Total K/D Total K/D Total
P-51D 1.10 10115 1.16 12998 1.02 10809
109G-10 1.12 7311 1.10 15466 1.08 7014
Spit IX 1.05 19023 1.07 24668 1.00 14267
P-47D-25 1.07 3297 1.15 3334 0.83 1098
P-47D-30 1.23 13296 1.19 14455 0.86 5572
A6M5b 0.56 4559 0.64 5061 0.59 2948
Yak-9U 0.84 3037 0.95 4243 1.06 4448
190A-5 1.54 13813 1.42 16723 1.20 5353
Typh 1B 0.90 1741 1.11 2307 1.03 3690
C.202 0.57 313 0.54 606 0.40 275
P-38L 0.80 9107 0.77 13331 0.63 5539
Spit V 0.59 3309 0.63 4919 0.66 2914
F4U-1C 1.79 12984 1.72 19495 1.68 16482
109G-6 0.84 1840 0.78 2457 0.73 1439
109G-2 0.73 951 0.89 1024 1.00 767
109F-4 0.65 1057 0.59 1198 0.81 1050
F4U-1D 0.70 1977 0.69 2228 0.64 3360
C.205 0.89 4547 0.96 5581 0.82 2398
190A-8 0.91 2822 1.09 4605 1.05 3738
N1K2 1.02 11213 0.95 15791 1.18 10341
La5-FN 0.69 1852 0.82 2357 0.98 1951
If are wondering about the scrabled order, contact HTC this is how they organize the above data.
Looking forward to your comments! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Mino
The Wrecking Crew
"This is a social game, it's up to you to fit into it, not for everyone else to fit into you."
Pyro
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This page represents what I consider to be a "Composite Success Number". Basically it is K/D * TU / 100. This Composite Success Number (CSN) is only relative and of use for quick analysis only. More to get a feel for how particular plane is performing and how successful it is in the MA.
Tour 6 Tour 7 Tour 8
P-51D 111 151 110
109G-10 82 170 76
Spit IX 201 263 142
P-47D-25 35 38 9
P-47D-30 164 172 48
A6M5b 25 33 17
Yak-9U 25 40 47
190A-5 213 237 64
Typh 1B 16 26 38
C.202 2 3 1
P-38L 73 102 35
Spit V 20 31 19
F4U-1C 232 336 276
109G-6 15 19 10
109G-2 7 9 8
109F-4 7 7 9
F4U-1D 14 15 21
C.205 41 53 20
190A-8 26 50 39
N1K2 114 151 122
La5-FN 13 19 19
Comments are welcomed! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Mino
The Wrecking Crew
"This is a social game, it's up to you to fit into it, not for everyone else to fit into you."
Pyro
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And Oops....
Keep in mind that the number for Tour 8 are not complete as Tour 8 is unfinished.
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Mino
The Wrecking Crew
"This is a social game, it's up to you to fit into it, not for everyone else to fit into you."
Pyro
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The Ostwind has 9913 kills and has been killed 4330 times.
Ever wonder where most of the pilots are hanging out?
The new uber plane doesn't have wings.
AKDejaVu
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Sure, but the Ostwind is dull as hell when your NOT defending. I only use it very occasionally - flying is best.
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Some planes are favored by new players and that must severely affect their stats. If you could only include sorties for expperienced pilots, they may look quite different.
In WB LW planes seemed deadly to me, mostly because they were flown by expert players. Newbies went for spits or F6F giving those planes the worse name. Remeber save (if that is a correct handle?) - absolutely deadly in F4F even during the late-war planeset. He suckered late war planes and shot them down when they tried to turn.
miko
[This message has been edited by miko2d (edited 09-27-2000).]
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stsanta has 36 kills and has been killed 22 times against the Ostwind.
stsanta has 5 kills and has been killed 5 times in the Fw 190A-5 against the Ostwind.
stsanta has 9 kills and has been killed 6 times in the Fw 190A-8 against the Ostwind.
(http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
<swears about Ostwinds>
Gonna givvum another egg.
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StSanta
JG54 "Grünherz"
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Below is a rating of fighters for Tours 6, 7 and 8. I have added the CSN for each tour and the higher the number the better the plane competed in the MA. I have also included the current CSN for Tour 8 next to each plane for current tour comparison. Planes are rated best to worst.
Plane 6-8 8
F4U-1C 844 276
Spit IX 606 142
190A-5 515 64
N1K2 386 122
P-47D-30 384 48
P-51D 372 110
109G-10 328 76
P-38L 210 35
190A-8 115 39
C.205 114 20
Yak-9U 113 47
P-47D-25 83 9
Typh 1B 79 38
A6M5b 75 17
Spit V 70 19
La5-FN 51 19
F4U-1D 50 21
109G-6 45 10
109G-2 24 8
109G-2 24 8
C.202 6 1
The results are not final for the Tour 8, but the 104 FM has had some significant effects so far. Some planes that were more successful under 103 have tumbled.
190A-5 515 64
P-47D-30 384 48
109G-10 328 76
P-38L 210 35
Are the ones I notice the most drop.
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Mino
The Wrecking Crew
"This is a social game, it's up to you to fit into it, not for everyone else to fit into you."
Pyro