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Title: What goes up................
Post by: Lazerus on November 25, 2003, 01:41:46 PM
...must come down. (http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/South/11/24/klan.initiation.ap/index.html) .
Title: What goes up................
Post by: kappa on November 25, 2003, 01:48:25 PM
Karma, with you everywhere you go... 8)

k
AoM
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Post by: Dago on November 25, 2003, 01:58:08 PM
Luckily it struck the KKK member in the head, and not in a part of his anatomy he uses.

dago
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Post by: Tarmac on November 25, 2003, 02:11:08 PM
Reminds me of that pakistani wedding where the groom and a bunch of others blew themselves up trying to fire a mortar in celebration.  

I feel kinda bad about not feeling bad for them.
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Post by: Maverick on November 25, 2003, 04:12:48 PM
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Originally posted by Dago
Luckily it struck the KKK member in the head, and not in a part of his anatomy he uses.

dago


:rofl  :aok
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Post by: Duedel on November 25, 2003, 04:15:12 PM
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Originally posted by Dago
Luckily it struck the KKK member in the head, and not in a part of his anatomy he uses.

dago


ROTFL :rofl
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Post by: VOR on November 25, 2003, 04:16:09 PM
Funny how some problems ultimately contain their own solutions.
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Post by: LePaul on November 25, 2003, 04:38:53 PM
Wow.  God acts in weird ways....certainly a Darwin nominee
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Post by: rogwar on November 25, 2003, 04:46:58 PM
Hmm...something strange about this story. Lets see... assuming it didn't go in a balistic arc (which would not be possible coming straight back down) then it would have actually stopped, ran out of energy, at some altitude, maybe like 500 - 1000 feet, dpending on the caliber and round fired. Now as it's coming back down and falling at gravity's sake, it could only reach it's terminal velocity which should not be enough to penetrate someone's skull. Maybe bing them in the head pretty good. I used to know how to calculate this kinda stuff but am too lazy nowadays.

Any comments?
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Post by: Duedel on November 25, 2003, 04:53:02 PM
I guess a bullet with at least 300km/h is able to penetrate a head, at least a KKK head cause a KKK head is unbelievable squashy
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Post by: mars01 on November 25, 2003, 05:06:23 PM
Yeah besides rogwars comment - what are the odds that out of 10 to 12 people the bullet hits anyone let alone the person being initiated.

Somethings very fishy.
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Post by: Lazerus on November 25, 2003, 05:28:25 PM
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Originally posted by mars01
Somethings very fishy.


Jesus was a fisherman, and miracles do still happen apparently.

Hell, it's CNN. It has to be factual.:D
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Post by: Duedel on November 25, 2003, 05:35:38 PM
This story is way too nice to be hoax.
Title: What goes up................
Post by: Lazerus on November 25, 2003, 05:40:10 PM
Vt = sqrt( 2W/(Cd * rho * A))


Vt = terminal velocity in feet/second
W = weight in pounds
Cd = drag coefficient - assume 0.75
rho = atmospheric density (about 0.0024 at sea level)
A = surface area in square feet


   Vt=134.14(d - .039) .972



d=median grain size in millimeters.





My head hurts.
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Post by: Capt. Pork on November 25, 2003, 10:54:22 PM
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Originally posted by rogwar
Hmm...something strange about this story. Lets see... assuming it didn't go in a balistic arc (which would not be possible coming straight back down) then it would have actually stopped, ran out of energy, at some altitude, maybe like 500 - 1000 feet, dpending on the caliber and round fired. Now as it's coming back down and falling at gravity's sake, it could only reach it's terminal velocity which should not be enough to penetrate someone's skull. Maybe bing them in the head pretty good. I used to know how to calculate this kinda stuff but am too lazy nowadays.

Any comments?


Terminal velocity of an undeformed rifle bullet can approach the sound barrier, and the apex of such a round starting off at a muzzle velocity of around 3000fps will go well beyond the 2000 foot mark, allowing for the round to approach its terminal velocity. The other question to ask is just how many inches of solid bone did the roof of his skull consist of.
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Post by: Torque on November 26, 2003, 01:17:35 AM
Maybe he wasn't white enough.:D
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Post by: Holden McGroin on November 26, 2003, 01:26:35 AM
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Gregory Allen Freeman, 45, was charged with aggravated assault and reckless endangerment in the Saturday night incident that wounded Jeffery S. Murr, 24.


As the KKK is a racist organization, wouldn't it follow that this is a racially motivated crime?  

Shouldn't federal hate crime statutes be invoked?

Where's the FBI?
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Post by: mrblack on November 26, 2003, 01:50:46 AM
LOL True justice indeed.:rofl :rofl
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Post by: mars01 on November 26, 2003, 10:18:31 AM
LOL your right Laz.

So with all that formula stuff could it reach a speed to penetrate a scumbags head?  8)   Wheres the conclusion lol.  Or was that homework?
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Post by: Capt. Pork on November 26, 2003, 10:38:39 AM
The main variable that needs to be established, Mars, is the caliber of the bullet. That would give us the initial velocity, the diameter and the mass. Like I said before, if it was a deer rifle, or something similar, it would penetrate a normal human head. This guy's head in particular--who knows.