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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: FUNKED1 on November 26, 2003, 06:16:52 PM
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http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/iraq_missile_france
It would be really tragic if those "journalists" got caught in a crossfire.
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Also a big to Russia for giving them the missiles.
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Meh everyone knows Euro-press are the scum of the earth. Sooner or later that camera will get mistaken for an RPG and karma will kick in.
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Here is the video sent anonymously to the French media - (hope it doesn't get the thread deleted - factual information shouldn't be deleted - although I suppose if it causes undue strife among paying customers, I will understand.) You need Real Audio unfortunately. This is from an exrtremist site.
missle (http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/video/39526000/rm/_39526586_iraq22_guerin_vi.ram)
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Next time we will see some feked journalist film a murder ... for educational purpose I guess?
to those "Journalistes" they deserve a cross fire.
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:rofl Hypocrites on the roll! As was said before it wasn't filmed by the French, no one got killed, and neither the plane or the crew were Americans.
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PARIS (AFP) - French weekly magazine, Paris Match, is to publish exclusive pictures....
The images were taken by one of the magazine's photographers, Jerome Sessini, who was with the attackers.... editor-in-chief Alain Genestar told AFP on Wednesday.
posted by Mora
As was said before it wasn't filmed by the French
The editor of the magazine said it was.... or maybe stills are okay, as long as it is not video.
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The images were taken by one of the magazine's photographers, Jerome Sessini, who was with the attackers -- described in the accompanying article as "Iraqi guerrillas" -- at the time of Saturday's missile strike, editor-in-chief Alain Genestar told AFP on Wednesday.
French Journalists!
So basically this French bastard was with them as they carried out a terrorist attack on a civilian aircraft! I hope our boys over there shoot him and his buddies.
FCKU Again...
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Originally posted by mora
:rofl Hypocrites on the roll! As was said before it wasn't filmed by the French, no one got killed, and neither the plane or the crew were Americans.
So by firing the the AA missle at the airliner type plane thet were not inyending to shoot it down? How stupid are you?
You remind me of that SNL skit of a Rumsfeld press conference where the idiot reporters asked if it was fair that US troops fired back on taliban that attacked them even if the taliban missed...
I cant stand your stupidity...
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OK this was news to me... I didn't bother to read the article because I "knew" that the video was shot by the ragheads and subsequently sent to a French journalist. Apparently thy changed their story, not very good journalism.
In wars there are often reporters on the battlefield and sometimes they get killed, it's part of the job.
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Originally posted by mora
In wars there are often reporters on the battlefield and sometimes they get killed, it's part of the job.
Heres to hoping! But this is different, these French bastards stood by as the terrorits attacked a civilan airliner transport. I wonder if they would have done the same if it was Orly or de DeGaulle instead of Baghdad Airport?
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Originally posted by straffo
Next time we will see some feked journalist film a murder ... for educational purpose I guess?
to those "Journalistes" they deserve a cross fire.
WTG Straffo!
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
I wonder if they would have done the same if it was Orly or de DeGaulle instead of Baghdad Airport?
It sure would be a scoop!
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orly or Degualle. lol
Those bastages would still have been on the sidelines if it was Kennedy or LAX. Its time for a new chevauchee.
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Heres to hoping! But this is different, these French bastards stood by as the terrorits attacked a civilan airliner transport. I wonder if they would have done the same if it was Orly or de DeGaulle instead of Baghdad Airport?
Of course, they are reporters.
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So they are not responsible citizens? Tell me if a reporter was with a group of terrorists who were just about to set a nuke off in a big city, does the reporter do anything to stop them?
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What and miss the story of the century?
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There have been many cases of reporters shooting instead of helping. What were those reporters supposed to do when the ragheads pulled their missile, call 911?
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Originally posted by mora
There have been many cases of reporters shooting instead of helping. What were those reporters supposed to do when the ragheads pulled their missile, call 911?
Push the button of course...
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so you don't like the OTHER side of the fence.....
again with all the French comments....
was fun seeing you american pigs shakin in your boots, holdin your fists out like little school girls....you scare no one you pansy prettythang....
so the french journalist SHOWED you the truth.....little girly man didn't like the truth....
are your american journalist SCARED to actually SHOW you the truth....or just shot scenes from a safe distance surrounded by 100 000 soldiers.....
there is NO resistance to the American invasion of Iraq....its the truth....
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Originally posted by SLO
so you don't like the OTHER side of the fence.....
again with all the French comments....
was fun seeing you american pigs shakin in your boots, holdin your fists out like little school girls....you scare no one you pansy prettythang....
so the french journalist SHOWED you the truth.....little girly man didn't like the truth....
are your american journalist SCARED to actually SHOW you the truth....or just shot scenes from a safe distance surrounded by 100 000 soldiers.....
there is NO resistance to the American invasion of Iraq....its the truth....
Oh our media is ore than happy to show us the resistance, in fact CNN tells you about the casualties and attacks so often that it seems we are loosing 1000 dead every day. However even in their lowest I have not seen CNN participate on a terror attack on a civilian plane.
Basically what you are saying is that French journalists are demonstarting their bravery by helping teoorists to shoot down civilian airliner transports.
SLO in all honesty I think your post makes you look crazy....
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I snapped this from another forum:
"There's an article in Paris Match from one of their reporters who, it seems, knew the day before it happened that the bas*ards were going to have a go at the A300. They'd never heard of DHL but knew the aircraft was deliveing mail to the GI's and therefore classed it as a 'legitimate' target. If your French is up to it, try http://www.parismatch.com and click 'Actualite'.
Well if they relly knew in advance then I agree that their actions were pretty low.
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I reckon the US air crews are covered if a Spectre or a squad of Marines makes hamburger-meat out of a bunch of French "journalists" traveling in the company of terrorists.
Hell, a French "journalist" anywhere in Iraq should be considered "hostile" and a legitimate target.........
C 'est La Vie..........
C.
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1 day young man your gonna learn there are 2 sides to a coin.....
1 of them you will not like.....its 1 thing to know about it....its alot different to see it.....
that journalist..may he be french(or a raghead, like you guys seem to call em) did NOT pull any trigger.......he showed you the truth
now go ahead and cry.....truth hurts.
don't forget....you callin me crazy is actually a nice comment.....thx you.
at least I accept the truth.....do you?
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Originally posted by SLO
1 day young man your gonna learn there are 2 sides to a coin.....
1 of them you will not like.....its 1 thing to know about it....its alot different to see it.....
that journalist..may he be french(or a raghead, like you guys seem to call em) did NOT pull any trigger.......he showed you the truth
now go ahead and cry.....truth hurts.
don't forget....you callin me crazy is actually a nice comment.....thx you.
at least I accept the truth.....do you?
I accept the truth! The french press stood ny as terrorists tried to blow up an airliner, thats not easy to forget.
Even more troubling is the fact that you seem to be bragging about it like you are proud of their brave act. Strange ethics you got there...
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To SLO aka "Zippy the Pinhead":
I say the French "journalist" is an accessory to attempted murder. That's the "truth", you moron..........
C.
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Originally posted by Cabby44
^I say the French "journalist" is an accessory to murder. That's the "truth", pinhead...........
C.
He should definitely be investigated.
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
I accept the truth! The french press stood ny as terrorists tried to blow up an airliner, thats not easy to forget.
Even more troubling is the fact that you seem to be bragging about it like you are proud of their brave act. Strange ethics you got there...
he's a journalist not a soldier...out to get the truth...you can't accept that...to bad...I do
I ain't bragging about anything...I just accept it however it is.
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Originally posted by SLO
1 day young man your gonna learn there are 2 sides to a coin.....
1 of them you will not like.....its 1 thing to know about it....its alot different to see it.....
that journalist..may he be french(or a raghead, like you guys seem to call em) did NOT pull any trigger.......he showed you the truth
now go ahead and cry.....truth hurts.
don't forget....you callin me crazy is actually a nice comment.....thx you.
at least I accept the truth.....do you?
I see. It's ok to stand by and watch innocent people die as long as it's journalism.
I'm going to laugh when you're on here crying about how the horrid americans killed the poor defenseless journalists.
You are truly an idiot.
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Originally posted by SLO
he's a journalist not a soldier...out to get the truth...you can't accept that...to bad...I do
I ain't bragging about anything...I just accept it however it is.
There is getting the truth and then there is participating and acting as a propagandist - my concern is that perhaps this man and his magazine may be crossing over the line.
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Originally posted by Martlet
I see. It's ok to stand by and watch innocent people die as long as it's journalism.
I'm going to laugh when you're on here crying about how the horrid americans killed the poor defenseless journalists.
You are truly an idiot.
another who can't accept.....name calling becomes you martlet...as usual
woow there is resistance to your invasion.....try and deny that truth you innocent ****
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
There is getting the truth and then there is participating and acting as a propagandist - my concern is that perhaps this man and his magazine may be crossing over the line.
maybe......
but thats not for you to decide....
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Originally posted by SLO
another who can't accept.....name calling becomes you martlet...as usual
woow there is resistance to your invasion.....try and deny that truth you innocent ****
Who said there wasn't resistance to the troops in Iraq? What the hell does that prove?
Would you condone reporters who stood by and videotaped the rape and murder of a child in Paris, just to show the truth?
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Originally posted by Martlet
Who said there wasn't resistance to the troops in Iraq? What the hell does that prove?
Would you condone reporters who stood by and videotaped the rape and murder of a child in Paris, just to show the truth?
better for me to see it, so then I can decide for myself.....then hearing it from your filthy lips and your right wing propaganda machine.
sorry mart....but I accept the truth...be it Hell on earth or beautiful blue skies.
WAR sucks.....and seeing it from only 1 side(which is yours) tends to make me constipated.....
being objective is knowing full well both sides of the coin....and seeing it tends to make you think twice before making WAR you ****in moron....
if it was only me.....i'd show you EVERY american soldier dead...stick it right there in your face.....hopefully you'll get BAD really bad dreams.....then you'll develope a brain.....and say 'hell....lets compromise instead of makin war'
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'hell....lets compromise instead of makin war'
You mean like you French buddies did with Hitler? Thank goodness for Daladier - if it wasnt fir him there miht have been a war in 1938!
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Originally posted by SLO
maybe......
but thats not for you to decide....
Yes it is. Just like you decided this war is evil...
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The real reason you are upset isn't the fact journalists were with the Iraqui but more that no intel guy were able to prevent the missile launch ...
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Originally posted by SLO
better for me to see it, so then I can decide for myself.....then hearing it from your filthy lips and your right wing propaganda machine.
sorry mart....but I accept the truth...be it Hell on earth or beautiful blue skies.
WAR sucks.....and seeing it from only 1 side(which is yours) tends to make me constipated.....
being objective is knowing full well both sides of the coin....and seeing it tends to make you think twice before making WAR you ****in moron....
if it was only me.....i'd show you EVERY american soldier dead...stick it right there in your face.....hopefully you'll get BAD really bad dreams.....then you'll develope a brain.....and say 'hell....lets compromise instead of makin war'
You didn't answer my question:
Would you condone reporters who stood by and videotaped the rape and murder of a child in Paris, just to show the truth?
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Good lord, SLO, it's not possible that you are this stupid. Either that, or your care provider helped you log onto the BBS and set you at the keyboard. Either way, you're a sorry individual. But then again you're from Quebec, so who can really be suprised at that?
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[if it was only me.....i'd show you EVERY american soldier dead...stick it right there in your face.....hopefully you'll get BAD really bad dreams.....then you'll develope a brain.....and say 'hell....lets compromise instead of makin war' [/B]
Why don't you balance that with the showing of EVERY dead and tortured Iraqi at the hands of your buddy Saddam and stick it right there in YOUR face.
That way you could get the picture of how bad war is, then explain to the victims why we need to comprimise instead of making war.
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Slowhand is so anti-American it makes me wonder why he gives his money to an American Gaming Company :rofl
was fun seeing you american pigs shakin in your boots, holdin your fists out like little school girls....you scare no one you pansy prettythang....
another who can't accept.....name calling becomes you martlet...as usual
Looks like you started with the name calling, then confront Martlet when he does it.....just how hypocritical is that? :rofl
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There is an ethical gray area in journalism. A journalist is supposed to be neutral and supposed to report fairly and tell the full story, even if the reporting is unpleasant. Combat reporters of all sides have sat and filmed ambushes, air strikes etc. There were American journalists covering the Mujahideen in Afghanistan that filmed Soviet soldiers being massacred. I have heard this issue directly debated on an ethics program with some big names in the media, and it seemed to come down to how close the reporter is to the side being attacked.
American journalists tended to state that they would have a hard time sitting there and watching Americans die, even if that was a course more true to the pure profession. However, the same journalists would have no trouble if the target of the attack wasn't so close to home (nationality and/or cause). So here is a potential gray area, and it's clear what these particular journalists chose.
As pointed out though, this was not some attack on a military convoy. Linking the civilian cargo airliner to a military target is a stretch, and had it been shot down it could have crashed in a burning fireball killing hundreds of civilians. This was a propaganda event designed to be dramatic and to show some degree of powerlessness among American forces and potentially suggest to the viewing audience that this can potentially happen even closer to home. These journalists were happy to play along, at whatever the cost in lives.
Frankly though, I have to agree in a limited way with Slo (lacking the personal venom), that as disturbing as these types of images are they do remind people what war is about, and how serious the decision must be to support the drive to war. The people being killed every day are real, and the camera can turn them into real people instead of a statistic that is easy to dismiss. "Why, more people die from murder in L.A. each day..." It doesn't matter if there are 100 or 100,000 causalities to the families of the dead and wounded. Young American's are on the firing line, they are being killed, and a bunch of American's who will be enjoying a tranquil Thanksgiving far removed from the war zone helped put them there. Whether or not the cause is ultimately proven worth their sacrifice, it is a reality that must be acknowledged along with counter images like Saddam’s statue being pulled down.
Charon
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What about the american journalist who met Bin Laden?
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What about him and how is it even the slightest bit relevant to the current discussion?
Did that reporter watch Bin laden or his men commit a terrorist act? Or have knowledge of a pending terror attack?
Try to follow the flow, it as simple as point A to B.
Read what Mora wrote:
snapped this from another forum:
"There's an article in Paris Match from one of their reporters who, it seems, knew the day before it happened that the bas*ards were going to have a go at the A300. They'd never heard of DHL but knew the aircraft was deliveing mail to the GI's and therefore classed it as a 'legitimate' target. If your French is up to it, try http://www.parismatch.com and click 'Actualite'.
Well if they relly knew in advance then I agree that their actions were pretty low.
Should journalist make themselves available as tools for terror by filming and aiding the terrorist propaganda?
No one said the journalist should throw down his or her cameras, and pencils and stop the terrorists. Just they shouldn't make themselves available as their propagandists and PR service. If journalist have information before an attack (especially one that seems staged for their benefit) they should have the correct morale compass to report what they know so innocent folks aren't killed needlessly despite how good a story it may be.
As much as I disagree with the Israelis they may have right in their treatment of journalist.
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Spot on Charon, you sail an even keel.:aok
My apologies fer SLO, but if he is a true francophone they get very passionate on issues, on the upside they also give some very diverse arts and culture.
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Originally posted by mora
I snapped this from another forum:
"There's an article in Paris Match from one of their reporters who, it seems, knew the day before it happened that the bas*ards were going to have a go at the A300. They'd never heard of DHL but knew the aircraft was deliveing mail to the GI's and therefore classed it as a 'legitimate' target. If your French is up to it, try http://www.parismatch.com and click 'Actualite'.
Well if they relly knew in advance then I agree that their actions were pretty low.
Look like the french of the other's forum guys is pretty rusty.
Or we don't speak the same French.
It's the iraqui guy who is speaking of the legitimity of the attack not the reporter.
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Man the 418th is like some kind of moron magnet.
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Originally posted by FUNKED1
Man the 418th is like some kind of moron magnet.
its 1 thing to insult me...its another too insult my friends....just cause i have different pov then yours...
funked if ya have nothing intelligent to say...i suggest you STFU:aok
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Originally posted by SOB
Good lord, SLO, it's not possible that you are this stupid. Either that, or your care provider helped you log onto the BBS and set you at the keyboard. Either way, you're a sorry individual. But then again you're from Quebec, so who can really be suprised at that?
I won't even bother lowering myself to your level.....the step is too steep
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Originally posted by SLO
just cause i have different pov then yours...
No it's because you're an stunninghunk.
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Originally posted by Martlet
You didn't answer my question:
Would you condone reporters who stood by and videotaped the rape and murder of a child in Paris, just to show the truth?
was a time of war?
get your situations straight please..then I'll give you MY opinion.....not what these moronic followers think on these boards.:aok
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Originally posted by FUNKED1
No it's because you're an stunninghunk.
likewise :cool:
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Originally posted by SLO
was a time of war?
get your situations straight please..then I'll give you MY opinion.....not what these moronic followers think on these boards.:aok
It can be a time of war, or not a time of war. You're choice. Are you going to answer the question?
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Slo's just pissed cos the Yanks actually kicked Saddams arse, unlike a certain other country whos flag seems to get accidentally bleached in the time of war ;)
Go back to selling your onions Slo.
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Originally posted by Martlet
It can be a time of war, or not a time of war. You're choice. Are you going to answer the question?
I've read lotsa books describing horrible details of rape, murder, genocide etc. etc.
I bet so have you...
There's 1 video that comes to mind when you talk about seeing hell on earth....
it was a video series of 3....was a long time ago...called 'Angel of the dead'.....but I saw it in french....it was actually made by an American Investigative/Coronar(spelled wrong..oh well)
maybe you've seen these too....early 80's i think.....
they showed a guy gettin the electric chair.....they snuck a camera in.....they showed underground groups actually eating the intestines of 1 of there fellows who died.....was a satanic cult if memory serves me right.
anyways Mart....I just don't agree at Shooting the messenger.....and thats all the journalist was.
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Originally posted by Vulcan
Slo's just pissed cos the Yanks actually kicked Saddams arse, unlike a certain other country whos flag seems to get accidentally bleached in the time of war ;)
Go back to selling your onions Slo.
actually Vulcan.....I'm glad everything went OK when you guys went in.
It was great seeing how fast it was done....with no casualties.
since the beginning I never agreed with the REASONS.
and I still don't agree......I hate seeing dead 19 years old soldiers coming home in body bags.
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Originally posted by SLO
actually Vulcan.....I'm glad everything went OK when you guys went in.
It was great seeing how fast it was done....with no casualties.
since the beginning I never agreed with the REASONS.
and I still don't agree......I hate seeing dead 19 years old soldiers coming home in body bags.
Thats a nice reasonable post that manages to express disagreement without offending or calling the usa evil, good job! :)
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Good lord you guys are morons on this board.
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Originally posted by SLO
I've read lotsa books describing horrible details of rape, murder, genocide etc. etc.
I bet so have you...
There's 1 video that comes to mind when you talk about seeing hell on earth....
it was a video series of 3....was a long time ago...called 'Angel of the dead'.....but I saw it in french....it was actually made by an American Investigative/Coronar(spelled wrong..oh well)
maybe you've seen these too....early 80's i think.....
they showed a guy gettin the electric chair.....they snuck a camera in.....they showed underground groups actually eating the intestines of 1 of there fellows who died.....was a satanic cult if memory serves me right.
anyways Mart....I just don't agree at Shooting the messenger.....and thats all the journalist was.
Are you going to answer the question, or dance?
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Originally posted by SLO
so you don't like the OTHER side of the fence.....
again with all the French comments....
was fun seeing you american pigs shakin in your boots, holdin your fists out like little school girls....you scare no one you pansy prettythang....
so the french journalist SHOWED you the truth.....little girly man didn't like the truth....
are your american journalist SCARED to actually SHOW you the truth....or just shot scenes from a safe distance surrounded by 100 000 soldiers.....
there is NO resistance to the American invasion of Iraq....its the truth....
American pigs? School girls?
Nice try.
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Originally posted by SLO
1 day young man your gonna learn there are 2 sides to a coin.....
1 of them you will not like.....its 1 thing to know about it....its alot different to see it.....
that journalist..may he be french(or a raghead, like you guys seem to call em) did NOT pull any trigger.......he showed you the truth
now go ahead and cry.....truth hurts.
don't forget....you callin me crazy is actually a nice comment.....thx you.
at least I accept the truth.....do you?
Who's truth?
You're a bitter little fella sittin behind a puter tossin out insults....feelin good about yourself yet?
East coast of Canada too....imagine that.
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Originally posted by SLO
its 1 thing to insult me...its another too insult my friends....just cause i have different pov then yours...
funked if ya have nothing intelligent to say...i suggest you STFU:aok
I suggest you come to the con next year....make sure and bring this same cheerful attitude with ya.
I mean, Dale does a great job puttin the con together, but maybe Slo could be the guest speaker.
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Originally posted by Stridr417
Good lord you guys are morons on this board.
Look who's talking.
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Originally posted by SLO
its 1 thing to insult me...its another too insult my friends...
WTF do you think this was:
was fun seeing you american pigs shakin in your boots, holdin your fists out like little school girls....you scare no one you pansy prettythang....
Just giving you a taste of your own medicine, jackhole.
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Mike pour l'instant je trouve que l'on a pas atteint la parité au niveau de la bétise ... même si c'est tentant parfois ;)
(et NON ,je suis pas impartial ;))
voila , que je me met à faires des fautes ENAURMES en français ... tout fout le camp ...
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This is interesting.
Martlet I would not film it.
Would you film an AC 130 circling a village killing targets of opertunity?
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Originally posted by Pongo
This is interesting.
Martlet I would not film it.
Would you film an AC 130 circling a village killing targets of opertunity?
I didn't ask you if you would film it. I asked if you would condone it.
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No I would not condone the filming of it.
Answer my question please.
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Originally posted by Pongo
No I would not condone the filming of it.
Answer my question please.
Of course I would. Why not? Targets of opportunity are combatants.
Very nice of you to admit hypocrisy. You wear it well. I thought that was going to be much harder than it actually was.
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Speaking of which have you stepped up to the plate yet ?
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Batz,
So... if a french journalist is going along with some small time terrorists to see how they try to shoot down a plane, it's bad
However, if an american journalist goes to meet the head honcho, theres nothing bad.
hmm.. :confused:
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So you have no problem then with the filming US soldiers being killed, Civilian transport planes being shot down etc etc.
Nor do I, glad we agree. War is war. Men die, Planes get shot down, villiges get reduced to rubble.
Its war. So what is your point again?
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Originally posted by Pongo
So you have no problem then with the filming US soldiers being killed, Civilian transport planes being shot down etc etc.
Nor do I, glad we agree. War is war. Men die, Planes get shot down, villiges get reduced to rubble.
Its war. So what is your point again?
Terrorists shooting down civilian aircraft is war? Silly me I thought it was terrorism.
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Originally posted by Pongo
So you have no problem then with the filming US soldiers being killed, Civilian transport planes being shot down etc etc.
Nor do I, glad we agree. War is war. Men die, Planes get shot down, villiges get reduced to rubble.
Its war. So what is your point again?
I'm sorry, obviously you have a problem with reading comprehension. Let me spell it out for you again. If you have trouble with the 4 letter words, feel free to use dictionary.com.
I said, I have no problem with photographers filming combatants. They are called war correspondents or embedded journalists.
You said you do not condone the filming of civilians being killed. Then you said you agree with filming civilians getting killed. Are you following me so far? Can you see the contradiction, re: hypocrisy?
I don't even need to continue down that road, since you've freely labeled yourself a hypocrite. All else can be discounted.
It's far to easy to point out the inconsistencies of most liberals. Condemnation of actions based only on the hatred of a person.
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Originally posted by FUNKED1
Terrorists shooting down civilian aircraft is war? Silly me I thought it was terrorism.
Yes silly Amreekan, deth to you!
But yea Pongo it kinda crosses the line, those DHL pilots were just civilans in their offices doing their jobs, they were not soldiers.
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blowhand..u are a classic french canadian..
then you'll develope a brain.....and say 'hell....lets compromise instead of makin war'
are u really this frikn dumb? Can you understand that the civilized world cannot "compromise" with the frikn muslim wacos?/
So..why didnt Hitler get "compromised instead of war"?
oh..he said F off and kileld everyone..
ok..lets just say..ok you frikn muslim waco's..go ahead and kill and christioan or non muslim..
go to canada first..
why is it you lilly livered beaches cant understand there is no "compromise"
moron
Love
BiGB
xoxo
Love to kill u
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Woah! Hey think about it. Had these freak journalists been driving along and notice what was about to happen and got it on film, well... thats journalism.
Is it true these jackballs knew 24hrs (or say.. 1hr?) in advance... even knew the target? LOL... GOOD.
Assuming this is true, lets take a look at the situation.
First, they put the lives of the aircraft crew, and any passengers on the line for thier chance at journalistic fame.
Second, the crew/passengers fit the description of NON-COMBATANT status, maybe even civilian status. What difference is there between us and them? Well, we go to great lengths NOT to kill civilians or non-combatants.
Third, the manpad crew... "combatant" or "terrorist". Either way, they broke some major international laws. I'll wager they make the terrorist list.
ewww baaaad news for the manpad crew, but hey, they are willing to die for thier cause no? So be it.
The "journalists", news is even worse. It's quite likely they are, or will be, branded enemy collaborators (terrorist collaborators would be extra good).
I would suggest these "journalists" make for the desert and get the hell outta dodge lol. The "troops" might be gettin a little trigger happy.
This is good stuff, journalists painting a bad-guy bullseye on thier foreheads.
Oh ya... I can't wait to see how this develops.
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Circling a village with an AC130 shooting anything that moves is war..
Shooting down an airliner just like the 100s used by your enemy to bring supplies and troops to the occupation of your country is not war.
I get it.
LOL
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Those guys accepted the risk when they decided to fly there and were paid accordingly. The plane was on a military mission, which should have been flown by the USAF.
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Originally posted by mora
Those guys accepted the risk when they decided to fly there and were paid accordingly. The plane was on a military mission, which should have been flown by the USAF.
Admit it you just wanna see americans die... :(
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Originally posted by Stridr417
Good lord you guys are morons on this board.
Yep..more than the national average for sure...
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Have to rephrase that.....one hopes that it's higher than the national average....what if these are the sane sensible one's and the real knuckle draggers are still trying to figure out how to plug in their pc's....
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Grow up Grunherz.... Every time someone even slightly disagrees with you, you start your " death to amreeka" crap.:rolleyes:
I've never said that I would like to see Americans die and secondly I do hope that you hunt these SOBs down.
And back to the subject. Why was DHL the only company that flew to Baghdad? Because they were greedy enough to accept the risk and that cost them a plane and almost a crew.
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Maybe they arent afraid of terrorist scum! ;)
But you are right, I think Air France should handle all the cargo for Baghdad Airport! I'm sure the French know the route and layount of the hangars at the airport. :)
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Amazing ... zillions of CIA/US ARMY are looking for those gorillas, and the french journalist find them?:confused:
Oh and for the ones who say:" Why they didn't stop them?", I guess it's easy to run your mouth when you don't have a bunch of diaperheads with AK47s around you.:lol
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Originally posted by SFRT - Frenchy
Amazing ... zillions of CIA/US ARMY are looking for those gorillas, and the french journalist find them?:confused:
Its much easier if you are on the same side, duh... :)
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American intel retards should role playing French journalist, you may get something done:aok
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Originally posted by SFRT - Frenchy
American intel retards should role playing French journalist, you may get something done:aok
I know and I bet they thought of that, but that would then put all real journalists in even more jeopardy.
Now I'm being bombastic on the BBS because I'm pissed at these journalits but I dont want them getting killed. I mean I do, of course in a angry joking BBS sort of way but not in actual reality.
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So Rude.....you can call the French every name in the book.....yet you get a little pissed cause I called you a pansy prettythang retard....
you'd like to see me at the CON.....whatta ya think you gonna do little boy.....I see you like making threats.....feelin tough little man, behind your screen....like you said to me....your not worth the dirt under my shoes.....sorry
hey skuzzy....you call this diplomatic.....you let them call the French anything they want yet they don't accept recieving it.....and makin little boy threats....is that american diplomacy.
and to answer your question mart....you took something out of context....you film WARTIME.....yet if you go on the other side its TERRORISM.....sorry my friend....you invaded a SOVERIEGN country....under international law...your the terrorist.
and to answer your question yes I have seen what you mentioned....not a long time ago up here there was a guy who filmed himself torturing and rapin 2 teenage girls....I got part of that film on the net....its something i don't wish to remember....yet its the truth of things...humans can be cruel.
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Originally posted by Pongo
Circling a village with an AC130 shooting anything that moves is war..
Shooting down an airliner just like the 100s used by your enemy to bring supplies and troops to the occupation of your country is not war.
I get it.
LOL
Are you still talking? It's too late to try to spin your hypocrisy now. You've been exposed. Keep yapping, though, I'm enjoying the laughs.
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Martlet talking about hypocrisy?
I guess hes allowed, as the master of it.
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Originally posted by Fishu
Martlet talking about hypocrisy?
I guess hes allowed, as the master of it.
Really? Give me an example, please.
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Slo, go away.
Originally posted by SLO
So Rude.....you can call the French every name in the book.....yet you get a little pissed cause I called you a pansy prettythang retard....
you'd like to see me at the CON.....whatta ya think you gonna do little boy.....I see you like making threats.....feelin tough little man, behind your screen....like you said to me....your not worth the dirt under my shoes.....sorry
hey skuzzy....you call this diplomatic.....you let them call the French anything they want yet they don't accept recieving it.....and makin little boy threats....is that american diplomacy.
and to answer your question mart....you took something out of context....you film WARTIME.....yet if you go on the other side its TERRORISM.....sorry my friend....you invaded a SOVERIEGN country....under international law...your the terrorist.
and to answer your question yes I have seen what you mentioned....not a long time ago up here there was a guy who filmed himself torturing and rapin 2 teenage girls....I got part of that film on the net....its something i don't wish to remember....yet its the truth of things...humans can be cruel.
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Originally posted by SLO
So Rude.....you can call the French every name in the book.....yet you get a little pissed cause I called you a pansy prettythang retard....
you'd like to see me at the CON.....whatta ya think you gonna do little boy.....I see you like making threats.....feelin tough little man, behind your screen....like you said to me....your not worth the dirt under my shoes.....sorry
hey skuzzy....you call this diplomatic.....you let them call the French anything they want yet they don't accept recieving it.....and makin little boy threats....is that american diplomacy.
and to answer your question mart....you took something out of context....you film WARTIME.....yet if you go on the other side its TERRORISM.....sorry my friend....you invaded a SOVERIEGN country....under international law...your the terrorist.
and to answer your question yes I have seen what you mentioned....not a long time ago up here there was a guy who filmed himself torturing and rapin 2 teenage girls....I got part of that film on the net....its something i don't wish to remember....yet its the truth of things...humans can be cruel.
This is what happens when mom lets you stay up past your bed time.
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Originally posted by Martlet
Really? Give me an example, please.
Well.. actually, this for one :D
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Originally posted by Fishu
Well.. actually, this for one :D
You do realize that makes absolutely zero sense.
As usual, I can write off everything you say as garbage. Just like in your gun thread. Just like in your last AWOL thread. Just like in your thread about the illegality of the war in Iraq.
You post factless blather, then dance around supporting it. Keep posting. I'm enjoying the laughs.
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Actually it is quite educational reading the convoluted nonsense of guys like SLO.
The human gene pool is wide deep and diverse. And at some branch in its evolution some people realized that if you stand at the back of an army in a battle you have a better chance of surviving than if you lead the charge.
Thus french Canadian logic was born.
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Martlet,
Why would I bother proving it to you, when you wouldn't accept it?
I believe you yourself have proved enough for the community of yourself, thats what matters, not whether you accept it or not.
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Journalism at its best... I'm speechless.
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Originally posted by Fishu
Martlet,
Why would I bother proving it to you, when you wouldn't accept it?
I believe you yourself have proved enough for the community of yourself, thats what matters, not whether you accept it or not.
I think that journalists with prior knowlage of a terrorist act that do not report it should have their journalism credentials revoked and thrown in an Iraqi prison. When they get out in a couple of years they should then be deported back to whatever sorry country they are from. After first being fined the cost of their ticket and incarceration of course.
I also think that such journalists should not be treated any different than the terrorists if they are caught with them.
The only thing lower than journalists trying to get some good footage of American being killed is those people who support their right to do so.
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Originally posted by Martlet
Are you still talking? It's too late to try to spin your hypocrisy now. You've been exposed. Keep yapping, though, I'm enjoying the laughs.
Ya I didnt think you could reply to that one..back to your cell.
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Originally posted by Saintaw
Journalism at its best... I'm speechless.
Essaye de lire l'original l'interpretation vaseuse de nos amis anglos saxon est au mieux erronée au pire diffamatoire.
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Originally posted by Pongo
Circling a village with an AC130 shooting anything that moves is war..
You obviously have no idea what your talking about, let alone the fire coordination involved in the use of Gunships. "We" do not run around arbitrarily shooting anything that moves.
Originally posted by Pongo
Shooting down an airliner just like the 100s used by your enemy to bring supplies and troops to the occupation of your country is not war.
I get it.
Ok Pongo... please do learn me what airlines we use to supply our troops, g'head! :rofl
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Originally posted by SFRT - Frenchy
Amazing ... zillions of CIA/US ARMY....:
Show me the numbers Frenchy.. c'mon... pleeeze :rofl :lol :rofl
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According to the article, the journalists didn't know what was happening until it happened. Up until the point they published the tape, I don't see how they did anything wrong. What were they supposed to do, tell the terrorists to go F themselves? However, their first stop after parting company with the terrorists should have been the nearest U.S. Military base of operations to turn over the tape.
As far as footage recorded from U.S. Military weapons systems...How does that fall into the same category as a third party filming purely for publication? I mean, without even judging one or the other, I don't see how they compare.
PS...Slo, you're still retarded, keep up the good work.
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Habu,
It's a bit hard to say whos actions journalists should be watching or reporting.
When theres been wars, theres been journalists on both sides of the fence.
If you expect them to report of enemy actions to US, then you would also obligate them to report US actions to the enemy.
(sure they do it already, however not that what US forces doesn't want them to see)
There were journalists going along with the US forces in Iraq... should they have called Iraqies and later on the supposed terrorists with a cellphone?
What people has to understand here, is that the fence has two sides, you cannot look at it from the one side only.
And what is terrorism?
These fellas didn't really shoot at a civilian target, since it was working for the supposed enemy forces and bringing in supplies for them, thereby making it a legal target of war.
I'm sure the pilots knew the risks when they took for the job, which they could have refused and stayed on their regular civilian flights.
As far as they engage on military targets, I cannot say there would be something wrong with reporter sticking with them, after all, they're sticking with the coalition forces just as well.
I don't think these guys told the reporter either "hey, we're gonna go shoot down an airbus tomorrow, come with us!"
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LOL...you've lost it, Fishu, and you're never going to get it back.
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SOB it look like you were able to translate the original source but will you survive this :
Ce soir au bar
De la gare
Igor hagard est noir
Il n'arrêt' guer' de boir'
Car sa Katia, sa jolie Katia vient de le quitter
Sa Katie l'a quitté
Il a fait chou blanc
Ce grand duc avec ses trucs, ses astuces,
Ses ruses de Russe blanc
"Ma tactique était toc" dit Igor qui s'endort,
Ivre mort au comptoir
Du bar.
Un Russe blanc qu'est noir
Quel bizarre hasard se marr'nt
Les fêtards paillards du bar.
Car encore Igor y dort
Mais près d'son oreille
Merveille un réveil vermeil
Lui prodigue des conseils
Pendant son sommeil :
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Tic tac tic tac
Ta Katic t'a quitté
Tic tac tic tac
Ta Katie t'a quitté
Tic tac tic tac
T'es cocu, qu'attends tu ?
Cuites-toi, t'es cocu
T'as qu'à, ta qu'à t'cuiter
Et quitter ton quartier
Ta Katie t'a quitté
Ta tactique était toc
Ta tactique était toc
Ta Katie t'a quitté.
Otes ta toque et troques
Ton tricot tout crotté
Et ta croute au couteau
Qu'on t'a tant attaqué
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Contre un tacot coté
Quatre écus tout compté
Et quittes ton quartier
Ta Katie t'a quitté
Ta Katie t'a quitté.
Tout à côté, des catins décaties taquinaient
Un coker coquin,
Et d'étiques coquettes, tout en tricotant,
Caquettaient et
Discutaient et critiquaient
Un conte toqué, qui comptait en tiquant,
Tout un tas de tickets
De quai
Quand tout à coup... Tic Tac tic... Brrrrrrr...
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"Oh mâtin quel réveil
Mâtin quel réveille-matin"
S'écrie le Russe blanc de peur
"Pour une sonnerie
C'est une belle sonnerie !..."
I've worst :D
Le papa du papa du papa de mon papa
Etait un petit pioupiou
La maman du papa du papa de mon papa,
Ell', ell' était nounou
Lui son nom, c'était Aimé Dépèch'
Et elle s'appelait Amélie Vite
Et attendez, attendez vous allez voir la suite...
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Le papa du papa du papa de mon papa
S'affolait pour les mollets
D'la maman du papa du papa de mon papa,
Qui rêvait de convoler
Quand Aimé lutinait les jolis
Mollets moulés de la molle Amélie
Ell' frétillait, tortillait comm' l'anguille alanguie
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Et de fil en aiguill' il est arrivé ce que vous pensez
Aimé a pris d'assaut les faveurs qu'Amélie voulait lui refuser
Mais l'papa du papa du papa de mon papa
A dit : "J'suis pas un pourceau
J'voudrais pas qu'à cause d'un faux pas un' fill' tombat
Dans l'opprob' du ruisseau
J'vas d'ce pas demander à son papa
La main de la belle Amélie Vite
Qui de ce fait va devenir Amélie Dépêche
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Et leur fils, le papa du papa de mon papa
Qu'on nomma : Yvan Dépêche
Eut pour fils mon grand'papa Guilo qui était un saint
C'était Saint Guilo Dépêch'
Qui en bégayant eut trois jumeaux :
Mon papa, mon tonton Dédé Dépêche
Et ma tata qui s'appell' Dépêch Al-Aline
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Tante Aline épousa un Noyau et eut pour fille Amédée Noyau Dépêch'
Amédée épousantun"bossac"pourdevenir bossac de Noyau Dépêch'
A un fils doté de trois prénoms
En souvenir de ses glorieux ancêtres
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Yvan-Sévère-Aimé Bossac de Noyau Dépêche
(C'est mon cousin)
Yvan-Sévère-Aimé Bossac de Noyau Dépêche
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Originally posted by SOB
LOL...you've lost it, Fishu, and you're never going to get it back.
Why? because I don't rate guerrilla fighters to terrorists when they don't attack civilian targets?
I wonder how many american terrorists there would been if US would been suddenly succesfully invaded by soviet troops... oh wait.. they'd be freedom fighters, yeah thats it.
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Originally posted by Fishu
Martlet,
Why would I bother proving it to you, when you wouldn't accept it?
I believe you yourself have proved enough for the community of yourself, thats what matters, not whether you accept it or not.
Isn't that the same argument you used last time?
"Well Martlet, I COULD prove it to you, but I'm not going to."
That translates into: "Dang Martlet, you caught me talking out my sphincter again. When will I ever learn."
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Originally posted by straffo
SOB it look like you were able to translate the original source but will you survive this :
Oh yeah? Try this!
Frere Jacques, Frere Jacques,
Dormez-vous? Dormez-vous?
Sonnez les matines, sonnez les matines
Ding ding dong, ding ding dong.
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Originally posted by Tumor
Show me the numbers Frenchy.. c'mon... pleeeze :rofl :lol :rofl
Tumor, are you that clueless on an "image"? At any rate, do you mean that USA didn't put all available assets to get those guys? Or does all available asset are "10 guys in a dark room"? " " is an another image, or whatever you call that in English.
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Originally posted by SFRT - Frenchy
Tumor, are you that clueless on an "image"? At any rate, do you mean that USA didn't put all available assets to get those guys? Or does all available asset are "10 guys in a dark room"? " " is an another image, or whatever you call that in English.
I don't need an "image" Frenchy... I "know" whats going on. You and just about everyone else here do not.
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Originally posted by mora
And back to the subject. Why was DHL the only company that flew to Baghdad? Because they were greedy enough to accept the risk and that cost them a plane and almost a crew.
DHL is a shipment company which is worldwide, with Euro Express and Danzas forming 2/3rds of it's base. They offer relatively cheap airfares, so they were probably the cheapest delivery method to Baghdad. But, the plane wasn't lost - needs the wing to be fixed.
BTW, they are owned by Deutsche Post World Net. You already know where the word 'Deutsche' is from. So, as everyone can see, it wasn't just Americans that were the target here.
-SW
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http://cryptome.org/dhl-sam.htm
Looks write-off to me, considering the planes age and location.
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Originally posted by Tumor
I don't need an "image" Frenchy... I "know" whats going on. You and just about everyone else here do not.
ego:aok
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Originally posted by SOB
PS...Slo, you're still retarded, keep up the good work.
likewise :aok
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Originally posted by Martlet
Isn't that the same argument you used last time?
"Well Martlet, I COULD prove it to you, but I'm not going to."
That translates into: "Dang Martlet, you caught me talking out my sphincter again. When will I ever learn."
Nah, I just don't bother wasting too much time on you.
Could be different if you would be smart, rather than smart wannabe who refuses every and all accusations against himself, regardless of how deep in crap he is.
I already bagged you twice in the past, remember?
Proved enough of you, you ain't worth my time.
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Originally posted by Fishu
Nah, I just don't bother wasting too much time on you.
Could be different if you would be smart, rather than smart wannabe who refuses every and all accusations against himself, regardless of how deep in crap he is.
I already bagged you twice in the past, remember?
Proved enough of you, you ain't worth my time.
Heh, that's how you tried to get out of the last two that you are now claiming as "bagged".
"Well Martlet, I "could" answer you but I'm not going to waste my time."
Translates to: Well Martlet, you got me again. This is getting to be a habit. I know you're right, but I'll die before I admit it."
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Originally posted by SLO
ego:aok
...and fact.
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Originally posted by Fishu
Why? because I don't rate guerrilla fighters to terrorists when they don't attack civilian targets?
I wonder how many american terrorists there would been if US would been suddenly succesfully invaded by soviet troops... oh wait.. they'd be freedom fighters, yeah thats it.
They'd be elves and hobbits cause that's only gonna happen in fantasy land.
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Oo... I heard US troops killed some 46 OpFors in iraq, who were trying to ambush separate convoys.
They were also reported to be actually wearing uniforms.
Martlet,
Use whatever dictionary you want, since it isn't my problem if the translation isn't right.
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Originally posted by SLO
"not a long time ago up here there was a guy
who filmed himself torturing and rapin 2 teenage girls....
I got part of that film on the net....
its something i don't wish to remember....
yet its the truth of things..."
"I've read lotsa books describing horrible details of rape, murder, genocide etc. etc"
"maybe you've seen these too....(video's) early 80's i think.....
they showed a guy gettin the electric chair.....
they snuck a camera in.....
they showed underground groups actually eating the intestines of 1 of there fellows who died.....
was a satanic cult if memory serves me right."
"if it was only me.....
i'd show you EVERY american soldier dead...
stick it right there in your face....."
WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS SLO person???? Normal people don't want to see a guy torture and kill two teenage girls. Most people would try to avoid seeing Satanic worshipers eating their congregation. I for one would not care to view a person being electrocuted.
BUT here you are bragging about all these sick videos and books you own/read. Makes me wonder what else you have on that PC of yours, "all in the name of research of course...."
you OBVIOUSLY revel in the suffering and carnage. PLEASE show up at the next AH convention. I want to see your face as you stumble over yourself attemting to apologise for being such a low life, because people like you don't have the balls to back it. Would be worth the trip just to watch you fill your "Depends" when your confronted by all the people you talk smack to.
-Lute III/JG26 9th ST WidowMakers
p.s. i tried to "keep it simple stupid". Do you need me to dumb it down some more?
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wow..
so Slohand and mind ..actually went and dowloaded video of a guy raping and torturing teenage girls?
omfg...
nuff said about slo i guess eh? if its true..ya..id love to meet you in person too.....:cool:
Ying Yang as they say
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If like Straffo we need to post prose, I post the following:
She offered her honor,
I honored her offer,
'twas all night long,
I was off her and on her
La traduction française à suivre, althought it may lose something.
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hu ?
Look like I've used a "faux-amis" you posted some poetry not prose (well not prose according to my French dictionnary :))
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Sweet Bouncing Buddha you go and download that crap then brag about it and want to show it to one and all here?
edit: (better not say dat.)
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Pooh I was also kind of shocked that Slo downloads that kind of stuff and likes to watch it. Makes you wonder what kind of person he is.
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:( i truly am disappointed with the several of SLO's remarks, however bashing the 418th was uncalled for(yes i am in this squad), however , i find it disturbing condoning in one way or another the shooting of any plane down, as with the 418th several of our squad members are in fact airline pilots, i would think that would bother slo, also in fact we have a couple men in our squad serving active duty in the US army,,Slo i hope they dont read this thread:( , as for showing up to con remark, well he is still my squad mate and i will cover his back ,idle threats are after all ignorant,as far as the watching those things on tape or movie well thats just sick (in my opinion) ,i'm not really into bashing any country,as the 418TH is such i diverse and international squad, but as i said i do not have to agree with my squadmates all the time,or for that matter at all. NUFF SAID.
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oh my....hugahunks actually changin what i said...read carefully you morons.
I never did mention 'LIKE' anywhere.....you pansy prettythanges did....I said I saw and read....
and there's another one who threatens me If i go to the CON...my my.....you guys sure have lotsa of confidence in your ignorance....stupidity is a marvel....little boys and there toys:rofl
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Right.
You were just watching that sick stuff for the educational value.
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lmfao..
I never did mention 'LIKE' anywhere.....you pansy prettythanges did....I said I saw and read....
ok..so the Downloaded video .."just" did it by itself..
DOWLOAD RAPING OF WOMEN NOW...
SAVE or OPEN...
ahhhhh it did it byitself!!!!
yes..you are dirt for sure...
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Skuzzy remember the movie Old Yeller.:rolleyes:
it's time.:aok
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Originally posted by FUNKED1
Man the 418th is like some kind of moron magnet.
NIce...I always thought AH Squads and The O'Club were seperate entities.I wonder where this is going to lead.
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Originally posted by Habu
Right.
You were just watching that sick stuff for the educational value.
right on preacher man....:aok
then if you would like try this 'Journey into Darkness' by John Douglas F.B.I.
I got a few more, but I'm a sick man....I like studyin what sick humans can do to each other....I'm a sick man...just cause Habu said so.
get off your pedestal peewee:aok
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Hey everyone leave SLO alone. Can't you see it is all my fault?