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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Yeager on November 27, 2003, 12:08:41 PM
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Flys Air Force One into Baghdad Intl Airport for a Thanksgiving with his troops today.
Im sure some will call it a sincere desire to thank the troops, others will call it a publicity stunt but I consider it simply foolish to risk his life for such a small thing.
Word has it he is already on the way back to US. At least he made it out ok
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I like him more and more actually.
Its nice that he spent thanksgiving with the troops.
But no matter what he does, some ppl will critizise him. *shrug* that is how the liberal mind works...
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Agreed, Hortland. While I disagree with our commander in chief on some domestic issues, he is a leaders' leader. I'm proud of him. Not since FDR have we had a president visit what amounts to a hot-zone. Again, he is doing what a leader should do. Oh, and happy Thanksgiving Day to all, especially our troops. God bless them.
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I call it a PR stunt for the troops and the folks at home. Prolly works to.
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Originally posted by Nilsen10
I call it a PR stunt for the troops and the folks at home. Prolly works to.
Just out of curiosity, what would be the difference between a morale-boost for the troops, and a "PR stunt"?
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A PR stunt of this nature is done by the president to boost his ratings back home and to make the troops feel important.
A pure moral boost aimed at the troops on the ground would be aimed primarily at the troops and does not have to be sent over and over again on TV all over the world.
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Originally posted by Yeager
Flys Air Force One into Baghdad Intl Airport for a Thanksgiving with his troops today.
Im sure some will call it a sincere desire to thank the troops, others will call it a publicity stunt but I consider it simply foolish to risk his life for such a small thing.
Word has it he is already on the way back to US. At least he made it out ok
AF1 has all the best countermeasures in the world. Anyway it's very hard to bring even a stock 747 down with a manpad, you would need multiple hits.
Of course the ignorant public doesn't know that.
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PR stunt or no, his visit took courage. Probably meant a ton to the troops he visited more than anything else. In this case I tip my hat to him.
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Originally posted by Nilsen10
A PR stunt of this nature is done by the president to boost his ratings back home and to make the troops feel important.
A pure moral boost aimed at the troops on the ground would be aimed primarily at the troops and does not have to be sent over and over again on TV all over the world.
Well, can he help it if the news outlets report it? Seriously, no politician does anything without considering the PR side of it. However, there was absolutely no advance notice to the media, not even a hint to "be prepared for some special news" kind of heads-up. The fact is, this president has been very consistant in his dealing with the military, insuring they know how much he and the country appreciate their sacrifice. He came to town here Monday, and I got to watch his motorcade drive by. He spoke with the troops at Fort Carson, then visited with a number of families that has lost members in Iraq. Those visits were in private. It takes a measure of courage to look into the faces of people who's sons and daughters, or husbands and wifes have made the ultimate sacrifice on your say so. It takes conviction that that say so was worth the price.
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Let's not forget that recently an Airbus operated by DHL did take a hit from a MANPAD. I've seen some up-close photos of the damage.
Once again, President Bush has done the right thing.
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Smart and daring move.
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Originally posted by Hortlund
Just out of curiosity, what would be the difference between a morale-boost for the troops, and a "PR stunt"?
Why making a distinction ?
It can be both equaly , no-one will know for sure except GWB himself.
It's smart
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I think it was good idea regardless of the motive. :p
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Salute to him for this. First American President in Iraq.
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I call it a PR stunt for the troops and the folks at home. Prolly works to.
Had he spent a quite Thanksgiving in the Whitehouse, would you have bashed him because the troops had to celebrate that day in the field, while he was safe and warm at home?
I think some would find fault with the man no matter what he did.
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Big balls.
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If he can send them to fight the least he can do Is come see them.
WTFG GWB:aok
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ROFL AKWeav
How did you arrive at the assumtion that i was bashing Bush????
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umm
sure, it was nice of him to go visit the troops. pr stunt or morale booster, whatever. good job. right move either way.
but acting like he just crossed omaha beach? give me a break.
i suppose since he was a draft dodger that was the closest he's ever been to a dangerous situation though, which merits praise. :rolleyes:
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Well the bush haters... You simply hate Bush, it is the way of things...
Pathetic of you!
WTG President Bush!!!!
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Damn Bush ..... send our troops HOME .... many were told they would be home by NOW.....
ya good man to 'visit' his men on thanksgiving ... (guess you can feel the sarcasim)
He didn't know what he was doing as governor .. and is the worst statemen we've seen in my lifetime.
Ya keep on cheering to his propoganda BS... have fun ... Maybe if he sent some of the troops home who were promised this by now i would find some ray of truth to all this BS .. but as it stands he's paying lip service in my eyes ... and he couldn't give a crap about american grunts.
He's a bloody 'daddy' draft dodger to start ... he's not changed much- still a coward or a hipocrate.... take your pick...
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Originally posted by Manedew
Damn Bush ..... send our troops HOME .... many were told they would be home by NOW.....
ya good man to 'visit' his men on thanksgiving ... (guess you can feel the sarcasim)
He didn't know what he was doing as governor .. and is the worst statemen we've seen in my lifetime.
Ya keep on cheering to his propoganda BS... have fun ... Maybe if he sent some of the troops home who were promised this by now i would find some ray of truth to all this BS .. but as it stands he's paying lip service in my eyes ... and he couldn't give a crap about american grunts.
He's a bloody 'daddy' draft dodger to start ... he's not changed much- still a coward or a hipocrate.... take your pick...
Shouldn't you be home with your life partner giving thanks for your recent victory in Mass.?
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President Bush is a good man for going to Iraq. Hes not afraid of the little things.
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Originally posted by Manedew
Damn Bush ..... send our troops HOME .... many were told they would be home by NOW.....
ya good man to 'visit' his men on thanksgiving ... (guess you can feel the sarcasim)
He didn't know what he was doing as governor .. and is the worst statemen we've seen in my lifetime.
Ya keep on cheering to his propoganda BS... have fun ... Maybe if he sent some of the troops home who were promised this by now i would find some ray of truth to all this BS .. but as it stands he's paying lip service in my eyes ... and he couldn't give a crap about american grunts.
He's a bloody 'daddy' draft dodger to start ... he's not changed much- still a coward or a hipocrate.... take your pick...
Like clockwork! Thanks Mane....
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This visit was an unmistable message to the troops, the country and the enemy...
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speaking of clockwork GRUNHERZ...
welcome to this thread (http://forum.hardware.no/html/emoticons/thumbs.gif)
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At all costs, he went to Iraq. I think it was a good idea.
:aok
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Originally posted by Nilsen10
speaking of clockwork GRUNHERZ...
welcome to this thread (http://forum.hardware.no/html/emoticons/thumbs.gif)
;)
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Sabre..he had filled Air Force one with his "favorite" press..they knew he was going I think. Since they were there with him.
I wonder if he will award himself a Bronze Star? Does this make him eligible for veterans benifits?
How many times do you think he will say somthing to the effect of
"When I visited the troops in Iraq' at a speech between now and the election...
The man has a natural gift for making his supporters look like idiots.
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What would you guys say if he had no reporters along? That he was being too secretive?
Why dont you fellas just be honest and put "I hate Bush and I will view everything he does through this prism of my prejudice against him and will reach the same conclusion every time - that he is evil and evrything he does is evil." Wouldnt that save you so much time?
Why cant you be like normal people who agree with some things he does and disagree with others - no to you guys its just he is the great evil.... Just like all the Clinton bashers in the 1990s...
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Now now ..dont get all sensitve on us GH. If he ever does anything right I will be right there cheering him on.
Just think. If he was a democrat everything he did would be wrong..isnt that funny?
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Originally posted by Pongo
If he was a democrat everything he did would be wrong..isnt that funny?
Why say that Pongo? Are you implying thats how I would behave? I agreed with large number of things Clinton, he is a Democrat, did and I disagreed with some too. But yes I imagine all of the partisan types would switch sides, and it would be the same just reversed.
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Originally posted by Manedew
Damn Bush ..... send our troops HOME .... many were told they would be home by NOW.....
He's a bloody 'daddy' draft dodger to start ... he's not changed much- still a coward or a hipocrate.... take your pick...
hmmm funny GWB served in Air National Guard..... hmmmm now where was it Clinton served? let me thinkkkkkkkkkkkkk
NO where or in anything, he is/was the draft dodger
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Give him credit for pulling it off. Imagine the thoughts of the people who protect him, "we're going where?, when?, boy, this guy has some balls".
It shows the troops that they are not alone in taking all the risk while the decision makers sit in a cozy office.
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Originally posted by whels
hmmm funny GWB served in Air National Guard..... hmmmm now where was it Clinton served? let me thinkkkkkkkkkkkkk
NO where or in anything, he is/was the draft dodger
who said clinton had anything to do with it? **** him too, he was a salamander and worthless. we havent had a president ive felt i could be proud of in forever.
however can anyone account for GWBs time spent AWOL during vietnam as a member of the Texas ANG?
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Big salute to the Commander in Chief for his Thanksgiving morale booster with the troops in the field. Whatever he does, some will like it and some won't. Democracy at work.
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Originally posted by moose
however can anyone account for GWBs time spent AWOL during vietnam as a member of the Texas ANG?
That's odd. I've never seen any documents charging Bush of being AWOL. Could you give me some links?
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This makes him brave and have big balls? LMAO!
As if he not going to be completely safe. He's probably one the most protected individuals in the world. Give me a break. The people he sent to war are the ones with the balls.
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I'm curious what the visit by the US CinC does for morale of the troops?
Just asking, since it doesn't seem like a factor that would improve morale. Getting real cooked food every day, some beer, and a set of brand new body armor with invincibility mode certainly would be a morale booster for me... I just don't understand how the president does anything for morale?
-SW
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Pongo, thanks for making me a part of every post.
I'm honored.
I actually think there's better lines in that thread to quote but it's your sig.
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Originally posted by Martlet
That's odd. I've never seen any documents charging Bush of being AWOL. Could you give me some links?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&node=&contentId=A59151-2000Jun25¬Found=true
http://web.archive.org/web/20001205003400/http://www.al.com/news/birmingham/Oct2000/14-e414023b.html
http://www.awolbush.com/
What I figure happened is that Bush did do some sort of guard duty but his political background helped make sure he didn't goto Vietnam.
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I caught the sarcasm, yeager. I was going to make a similiar post ;)
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Originally posted by moose
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&node=&contentId=A59151-2000Jun25¬Found=true
http://web.archive.org/web/20001205003400/http://www.al.com/news/birmingham/Oct2000/14-e414023b.html
http://www.awolbush.com/
What I figure happened is that Bush did do some sort of guard duty but his political background helped make sure he didn't goto Vietnam.
Great links. All they prove was Bush was in the service.
Now you say he did do guard duty? Do you even know what AWOL means?
So, I ask again, are you going to substantiate your claims that Bush was AWOL, or should I just file your baseless accusations over there with Manedunce's blather?
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Tax cuts, then economy coming around, then the Medicare bill, then this....man, that must have the libs frothing at the mouth. :)
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Tax cuts, then economy coming around, then the Medicare bill, then this....man, that must have the libs frothing at the mouth. :)
They don't know what the heck to do. Unemployment rate dropping faster than they can track, all the Democratic candidates making fools of themselves.
Not a good time to be a Lib.
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IIRC, Bush was given 'extended leave' during his tour to assist in his brothers campaign.
Im sure I red that somewhere - although not on http://www.bushawol.com :rolleyes:
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Your welcome Toad. I dont know..that one caught my eye..I really like it.
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I favor the line with the cell phone myself.
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though i dont support Bush's rebuilding Iraq, i think it's good of him to spend Thanksgiving with the troops. it means alot to soldiers to have their leader on the battlefield rather than cowering in a building in the security of their home country. *cough*like Clinton*cough*
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Publicity stunt and a class act thought.:aok
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How did you arrive at the assumtion that i was bashing Bush????
Your choice of words when you said: I call it a PR stunt for the troops and the folks at home. Prolly works to.
That implies a negitive image to assume that he only went there for PR.
Maybe, just maybe he did it to show his gratitude to the troops for the job they are doing, and to help keep their moral up. But like I said, some folks will bash the man no matter what he does.
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Just earlier this week the lefties were bashing bush for not devoting attantion to the troops and instead attending fundraisers. Now Bush risks his security and to go to Baghdad and spend his Thanksgiving away from his familiy to be with the troops, and still the lefties are complaing....
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Originally posted by whels
hmmm funny GWB served in Air National Guard..... hmmmm now where was it Clinton served? let me thinkkkkkkkkkkkkk
NO where or in anything, he is/was the draft dodger
obviously the term 'daddy' draft doger was lost on you .... he was givin' a nice postion in the national guard (out of Houston I think) A postion almost impossible to get during Veitnam .... I wonder if daddy(Bush Sr.), head of the CIA, might have helped him get that spot ....
and Don't assume I like Clinton, I've never voted democrat in my life....proably will this time around just to get rid of Bush....And well Dean's allright.
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And Bush fan boy Martlet ... is that the best you got, To Imply I'm gay?... that i like ****? ..Why, because I live in VT?.... that is what your saying by that ...no? I found in my life most people who give crap about gay folks, alot, are gay themselves .. (most striaght people don't think about it that much)
Don't swing that way myself Martty .. but come up to VT .. sure I can hook you up with cute guy. My one close freind, she's big into the Bi-lifestyle .. sure she could find you some friends .....
I know how you like that big cowboy Bush.... They proably got some country boys up here for you...
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"And well Dean's allright."
Not really, his economics are really scary he thinks higher taxes, more regulations and mandated higher wage levels will encourage economic growth.
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allright doesn't mean perfect ... better than Bush by miles in my eyes
Why do you think I've never voted democrat before....? I sure as hell didn't vote Republican...
I didn't want Gore as president ethir...
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Originally posted by Manedew
allright doesn't mean perfect ... better than Bush by miles in my eyes
That comparison is up to your personal choice of course. However nobody has floored me on ecocomics as has Dean. I sicererely hope he is deliberatly lying about his economic policies to attract left wingers because the last thing we need in this recovering economy is higher taxes, regulatory inefficiencies and the cost of reimplienting them and staffing new regulatory agencies. Now of course higer minimium wages are an emotinal subject but it is a fact that they increase unemployment - which is also bad.
Maybe he is strong in other areas, but he is one bad guy on economics if he is honest about his campaign promises.
Would you be willing to share where you prefer Dean to bush, perhaps issue by issue?
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not going spend all morning looking at platforms .... but off the top of my head ...
He doesn't think we should be in Iraq ... and he says so. Right now that's enough for me.
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Originally posted by Manedew
not going spend all morning looking at platforms .... but off the top of my head ...
He doesn't think we should be in Iraq ... and he says so. Right now that's enough for me.
Fair enough! Then vote that way. However lets focus on that issue.
Do you want us to pull out the second dean is elected?
Would you take responsibility for the ensuing chaos?
What alternative is Dean proposing, if it is ot to simply pack up and leave?
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Grun, Laura found your posts highly entertaining last night. Keep up the good work. :)
Outta here for 9 days, off to Disney World! Cya!
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This was the first intelligent thing this character has done in his tenure..
Morale is low in Iraq and this was a definite boost...
And he was smart by doing it the way he did. No press until hes out and back torward the USA....
Normally im very critical of his actions, but this was the first honorable thing the guy has done so props to him.. (breaks fingers on the keys.. now..)
2 cents
DoctorYo
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Troops were thrilled, unless they did "PR" for the cameras by the hundreds.
I'm impressed.
If he has any control over the ATF he won't ever get my vote, but I like what he does. Too bad actually, not that it will make a diffrence.
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Originally posted by Manedew
Damn Bush ..... send our troops HOME .... many were told they would be home by NOW.....
ya good man to 'visit' his men on thanksgiving ... (guess you can feel the sarcasim)
He didn't know what he was doing as governor .. and is the worst statemen we've seen in my lifetime.
Ya keep on cheering to his propoganda BS... have fun ... Maybe if he sent some of the troops home who were promised this by now i would find some ray of truth to all this BS .. but as it stands he's paying lip service in my eyes ... and he couldn't give a crap about american grunts.
He's a bloody 'daddy' draft dodger to start ... he's not changed much- still a coward or a hipocrate.... take your pick...
You're such a whiner....typical liberal offering. Most of you are still pissed Gore isn't the man in office...course that doesn't fly as well as propaganda and draft dodger, etc.
Nice effort.
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Originally posted by Pongo
Sabre..he had filled Air Force one with his "favorite" press..they knew he was going I think. Since they were there with him.
I wonder if he will award himself a Bronze Star? Does this make him eligible for veterans benifits?
How many times do you think he will say somthing to the effect of
"When I visited the troops in Iraq' at a speech between now and the election...
The man has a natural gift for making his supporters look like idiots.
I love this stuff.
Just remember this Pongo....whine all you want, there is not a damn thing you can do about it other than make yourself known here to us as just one more malcontent.
You live on the East coast by chance....some Canadian friends of mine said the left coasters are the whiney ones.
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Originally posted by moose
who said clinton had anything to do with it? **** him too, he was a salamander and worthless. we havent had a president ive felt i could be proud of in forever.
however can anyone account for GWBs time spent AWOL during vietnam as a member of the Texas ANG?
He was risking his life flyin jets Moose....you ever done that? Is flyin jets dangerous? Yup.
I met you at the con and like ya....still do. Just don't get too caught up in all this crap....despite Bush's flaws, he cares about the men and women he sent into war...my bet, is it made him feel more comfortable just going there himself....meant alot to the men and women there.
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Originally posted by Thrawn
This makes him brave and have big balls? LMAO!
As if he not going to be completely safe. He's probably one the most protected individuals in the world. Give me a break. The people he sent to war are the ones with the balls.
Hey lookie...another Canadian malcontent....you guys meet monthly to collect your thoughts...all one of them?
The ones fighting there do have balls, you're right about that.
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Was'nt Hillary in Iraq at the same time?
Ooops...guess she lost the front page, huh?
Way to stick it to her, Dubya.
God, it must suck to be a Bush Hater today.
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Originally posted by AKS\/\/ulfe
I'm curious what the visit by the US CinC does for morale of the troops?
Just asking, since it doesn't seem like a factor that would improve morale. Getting real cooked food every day, some beer, and a set of brand new body armor with invincibility mode certainly would be a morale booster for me... I just don't understand how the president does anything for morale?
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Exactly.
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Because if Hitech would personally email and repy to you and say you were a real asset to the AH community, even though you are a liberal avacado blow tard that agrees with only every post what you think supports your agenda, you'd shat yourself and pry frame the email.
Same thing, but at a 1000X' times more important and reality.
The troops needed a Commander to make a terrific effort to do something for them. Bush did.
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Rude.
How did you ever delude yourself into believing that anyone with a brain and a spine gives a dam what you think of them?
Really. your posts could all be summed up by..
"I dont like you..your against the war in Iraq, you should feel shamed cause Rude doenst like you"
Exibit one, So that you know which direction to invade next...
"You live on the East coast by chance....some Canadian friends of mine said the left coasters are the whiney ones."
point your beady eyes north.... Now, which hand is pointing east?
And the only person whining here is you.
Call your canadian friends. They can fill you in.
99 % of canadians, even the 1000 that are fighting the war on terror in Afganistan right now so that 1000 more US boys can try to suppress the resistance in Iraq, feel that your president and therfore you are full of crap. But thats ok every american with a brain knows your full of crap too.
And please. Cut the Bush was a hero to be to fly F102s(when he felt like it) in the national guard crap. It was a privilage. That he took advantage of and never paid the price for.
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Originally posted by Pongo
Rude.
How did you ever delude yourself into believing that anyone with a brain and a spine gives a dam what you think of them?
Really. your posts could all be summed up by..
"I dont like you..your against the war in Iraq, you should feel shamed cause Rude doenst like you"
Exibit one, So that you know which direction to invade next...
"You live on the East coast by chance....some Canadian friends of mine said the left coasters are the whiney ones."
point your beady eyes north.... Now, which hand is pointing east?
And the only person whining here is you.
Call your canadian friends. They can fill you in.
99 % of canadians, even the 1000 that are fighting the war on terror in Afganistan right now so that 1000 more US boys can try to suppress the resistance in Iraq, feel that your president and therfore you are full of crap. But thats ok every american with a brain knows your full of crap too.
And please. Cut the Bush was a hero to be to fly F102s(when he felt like it) in the national guard crap. It was a privilage. That he took advantage of and never paid the price for.
My Canadian friends have filled me in....they said those who live in the East of your country are mostly of french origin and had their balls removed at birth....were they close?
BTW....joyrides in jets is not what the US reserves do...they train...it's dangerous and folks die. So by your analogy, all in the reserves are just hangin out in the national guard crap eh?
Do you fly any longer or just spout off on the boards...haven't seen ya up ina while.
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Originally posted by Sandman_SBM
Exactly.
Originally posted by Creamo
Because if Hitech would personally email and repy to you and say you were a real asset to the AH community, even though you are a liberal avacado blow tard that agrees with only every post what you think supports your agenda, you'd shat yourself and pry frame the email.
Same thing, but at a 1000X' times more important and reality.
The troops needed a Commander to make a terrific effort to do something for them. Bush did.
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Originally posted by Pongo
Call your canadian friends. They can fill you in.
99 % of canadians, even the 1000 that are fighting the war on terror in Afganistan right now so that 1000 more US boys can try to suppress the resistance in Iraq, feel that your president and therfore you are full of crap. But thats ok every american with a brain knows your full of crap too.
You may speak for 99% of Canadians but you don't speak for even one American, just so you know.
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Originally posted by Rude
My Canadian friends have filled me in....they said those who live in the East of your country are mostly of french origin and had their balls removed at birth....were they close?
BTW....joyrides in jets is not what the US reserves do...they train...it's dangerous and folks die. So by your analogy, all in the reserves are just hangin out in the national guard crap eh?
Do you fly any longer or just spout off on the boards...haven't seen ya up ina while.
Ya but did they tell you whether the east was left or right? lol
Look up where Victoria BC is..you will be reasured that I have all my parts I guess.
Go to the scores page and see. I fly under the handle "pongo"
I know its kind of tricky.
And you used the term Joyride not me. puting words in peoples mouths might come easy to you but it is a form of dishonesty and says alot about you.
AKIron. I am not speaking for anyone. Do you believe that no Americans are against the invasion of Iraq, do you believe you speak for all americans?
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BTW as a former soldier who served overseas which most of our heros here can not attest too.
I think it was a publicity stunt. But that regardless of how they feel about Bush and the invasion. Many of the troops would be uplifted by the visit. Its probably all the rage arround the barracks..
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Gee, ya think?
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Originally posted by Pongo
BTW as a former soldier who served overseas which most of our heros here can not attest too.
I think it was a publicity stunt. But that regardless of how they feel about Bush and the invasion. Many of the troops would be uplifted by the visit. Its probably all the rage arround the barracks..
I applaud your service to your country. I served also and with many years overseas as well. I don't presume to speak for anyone other than myself. It wasn't me claiming that 99% of my countrymen agreed with my viewpoint.
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Originally posted by AKIron
I applaud your service to your country. I served also and with many years overseas as well. I don't presume to speak for anyone other than myself. It wasn't me claiming that 99% of my countrymen agreed with my viewpoint.
Here's another vet that agrees with your viewpoint. That's two.
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Were you in the Navy AKiron? You had to shower with men then?
Cool.
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Although I was a little skeptical when Bush was elected (I didn't vote for either of the big ticket candidates), this was an excellent display of support from the Commander In Chief. The sentiments garnered by this event were not surprising. Indeed it was the first thought in my mind after learning about the event on NBC - just like the carrier visit it would be labeled as "grandstanding," or a mere publicity stunt. However, after seeing the reactions of the servicemen and women who were there, it did seem that they, at least, appreciated the gesture. This sentiment is repeated in the other forums I frequent, which are populated by those who have been and those who still are in the service.
This event, as well as the story which aired on NBC about the Iraqi baby who underwent surgery in Israel for a fatal condition, has left me particulary upbeat today.
mauser
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I would just like to add nothing here.
Thank You.
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Originally posted by Creamo
Were you in the Navy AKiron? You had to shower with men then?
Cool.
Sorry Creamo, Air Force, no naked men in shower pics for you. I hear you can find 'em on the web tho.
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Originally posted by muckmaw
Was'nt Hillary in Iraq at the same time?
Ooops...guess she lost the front page, huh?
Way to stick it to her, Dubya.
God, it must suck to be a Bush Hater today.
No... Hillary was in Afghanistan.
MiniD
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Originally posted by Rude
My Canadian friends have filled me in....they said those who live in the East of your country are mostly of french origin and had their balls removed at birth....were they close?
I'm afraid your friends have misinformed you. Although there is a large number of francaphones in New Brunswick that are decendants of the Acadians, certainly most of the Maritimes are decended from Scots, English, Irish and United Empire Loyalist stock.
And they are no more or less brave than any other Canadian. Same with those Canadians that live in British Columbia.
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Originally posted by Creamo
Gee, ya think?
Yeah, I think Packer fans are lower than liberals on the food chain.
Here are Liberals celebrating victory over the Packers.
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Originally posted by Pongo
Ya but did they tell you whether the east was left or right? lol
Look up where Victoria BC is..you will be reasured that I have all my parts I guess.
Go to the scores page and see. I fly under the handle "pongo"
I know its kind of tricky.
And you used the term Joyride not me. puting words in peoples mouths might come easy to you but it is a form of dishonesty and says alot about you.
AKIron. I am not speaking for anyone. Do you believe that no Americans are against the invasion of Iraq, do you believe you speak for all americans?
And please. Cut the Bush was a hero to be to fly F102s(when he felt like it) in the national guard crap. It was a privilage. That he took advantage of and never paid the price for.
The above is what you said before....never said he was a hero...national guard crap? That mean all who serves in the guard are less in your opinion...clear it up for me and the others.
Me thinks you just have a hardon for Bush and that you like to argue...I even believe you may not like me much, which speaks volumes as to what kind of person you may be....ya see, unlike you, I realize that I don't even know you...I respond only to the typed words on this puter and reserve judgement on you personally until I meet you.
I disagree with you in principle....I still am not aware of why you hold these views and seem to be so upset over Bush...care to explain?
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Originally posted by Thrawn
I'm afraid your friends have misinformed you. Although there is a large number of francaphones in New Brunswick that are decendants of the Acadians, certainly most of the Maritimes are decended from Scots, English, Irish and United Empire Loyalist stock.
And they are no more or less brave than any other Canadian. Same with those Canadians that live in British Columbia.
Thanks:)
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While I do not agree with everything Bush has done since being elected, I do agree with what he has done here. Took courage. To those of you who would wish to take this opportunity to bash Bush for whatever reason, well I just want to say the following;
Oh, be sure to hit the print button, you'll need this later.
Get on a plane and travel to Anchorage. In the center of town you will find a small fish market called "Abe's Cods." Go inside ask for Nilvana. Tell him you need transport to the sacred place; he'll understand. While he makes the arrangements you'll need to get your hands on a diving bell and two stout men to work the bellows. Return to the harbor and Nilvana will be waiting with the boat. He will take you into the open area of the pacific, but trust his judgment. When the time is right, descend into the icy water a distance of four hundred feet. You will come across a large cave carefully hidden behind a reef, and inside there will be an open pocket of air for you to change back into your clothes. Follow the cave, always taking the left path or you'll become trapped in a magma pocket. After several miles you'll come across a bell; ring it three times. At the sound, a horse will come, and he will transport you to the magical city. That's where the people who care what you think live. Good luck.
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"....Why dont you fellas just be honest and put "I hate Bush and I will view everything he does through this prism of my prejudice against him and will reach the same conclusion every time - that he is evil and evrything he does is evil." Wouldnt that save you so much time?"
Or you could use that other "prism of prejudice":
"I simply adore Bush and I will view everything he does through this prism of my prejudice for him and will reach the same conclusion every time - that he is yummy and evrything he does is brilliant."
yowser
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Originally posted by AKS\/\/ulfe
I'm curious what the visit by the US CinC does for morale of the troops?
Just asking, since it doesn't seem like a factor that would improve morale. Getting real cooked food every day, some beer, and a set of brand new body armor with invincibility mode certainly would be a morale booster for me... I just don't understand how the president does anything for morale?
-SW
Have you ever served? If so than you may be the exception. If not how can you guage what us troops are thinking/feeling. I know that when I served If a vip came out to the field or somthing similar I thaught it was cool they were willing to get dirty or at least take the time to say hi.
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Originally posted by Rude
My Canadian friends have filled me in....they said those who live in the East of your country are mostly of french origin and had their balls removed at birth....were they close?
Should someone tell Rude about how the term Acadian became the name Cajun?:p
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
If not how can you guage what us troops are thinking/feeling.
I didn't, question marks are not used when making a statement.
-SW
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Originally posted by Torque
Should someone tell Rude about how the term Acadian became the name Cajun?:p
All the Acadian's with huevos left Canada and went to Louisiana, of course.
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Originally posted by Toad
All the Acadian's with huevos left Canada and went to Louisiana, of course.
And Old Orchard Beach.
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To Bush no matter what the motive was!
Took balls!
BTW our local paper thought so much of it they put it on page 8.
PAGE 8?!
Just when I thought I couldn't hate that paper any more.
Liberal piece of cheese!
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Originally posted by Sixpence
Yeah, I think Packer fans are lower than liberals on the food chain.
Here are Liberals celebrating victory over the Packers.
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/ah_55_1070050803.jpg)
Who are you and why are you yappin and chewing on my pant leg all a sudden?
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
Have you ever served? If so than you may be the exception. If not how can you guage what us troops are thinking/feeling. I know that when I served If a vip came out to the field or somthing similar I thaught it was cool they were willing to get dirty or at least take the time to say hi.
Gunslinger, you should have joined the Navy instead of the Marines. The VIPs might have visited you and gotten dirty with you during the daytime, but at night they always helo'd back to the fleet and showered with the sailors. You would have liked that.
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Originally posted by Airhead
Gunslinger, you should have joined the Navy instead of the Marines. The VIPs might have visited you and gotten dirty with you during the daytime, but at night they always helo'd back to the fleet and showered with the sailors. You would have liked that.
Living up to your name I see.
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Originally posted by Toad
All the Acadian's with huevos left Canada and went to Louisiana, of course.
You meant exiled right? ;)
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Have it your way.
All the Acadian's with huevos were exiled; they left Canada and went to Louisiana, of course.
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Originally posted by Creamo
Who are you and why are you yappin and chewing on my pant leg all a sudden?
Ahh, you don't remember chiming in on the abortion thread with packer mania huh? Well here's an abortion.
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/ah_55_1070084552.jpg)
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Originally posted by Manedew
Damn Bush ..... send our troops HOME .... many were told they would be home by NOW.....
ya good man to 'visit' his men on thanksgiving ... (guess you can feel the sarcasim)
He didn't know what he was doing as governor .. and is the worst statemen we've seen in my lifetime.
Ya keep on cheering to his propoganda BS... have fun ... Maybe if he sent some of the troops home who were promised this by now i would find some ray of truth to all this BS .. but as it stands he's paying lip service in my eyes ... and he couldn't give a crap about american grunts.
He's a bloody 'daddy' draft dodger to start ... he's not changed much- still a coward or a hipocrate.... take your pick...
Awwwwwww.... Did George make duh wittle wibewal mad?
At least the "troops" know this president doesn't "loath" them... punk.
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Rude, it's not my intention to say that those who fly in the guard now, or even then, are worth any less to this country. However, I do think Bush's military history is flawed, and I would be certain that the reason he stayed stateside during vietnam is because of his father's political ties. Unfortunately thats how this country works.
Two grandfathers of mine as well as my dad didn't get the same preferential treatment. One died as a result of his wounds from fighting somewhere in France.
As I said, him going over there was the right move, but to me it wasn't a 'brave' thing to do. Not compared to what we're asking of our guys there already. (which amounts to occupation of a hostile nation)
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Lets put it this way.
If you where of fighting age during veit nam.
And you where Balck you got drafted and went end of story!!
If you where white you had a better chance of going to college
and staying out of the war.
It was not right but It was how It was.
So I'm sure old George got some kid glove treatment.
Hard to believe he did not.
But If people can say that Clinton although he was a lier and adultier and draft dodger.
Then I think we should not judge old george to harsh on being In the guard as apossed to the RA.
I mean good lord atleast he serverd :aok
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There are LOTS of people who didn't complete thier Guard committment. Just up and quit. It still happens. More often than not, it's not worth the trouble to go after them in a disciplinary action. One of my brother in laws did that... the USANG eventually found him, and sent him his General Discharge papers. It's all up to the commander.
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Originally posted by Mini D
No... Hillary was in Afghanistan.
MiniD
She went to Iraq too, after Afganistan.
104 posts so far, and only two or three even mention Hillary.
Intresting that someone looking to gain political advantage by visiting troops is a publicity potato... except demos.
By the way, the DHL plane didn't have flares and other countermeasures, AF1 does.
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Also interesting that your brave to go to Iraq. Unless your a democrat.
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Also interesting that your brave to go to Iraq. Unless your a democrat.
The 3 or so posts on this thread that mention Senator Clinton do not back up your statement, the posts in this thread only note that she traveled. They do not make a value judgement about her trip.
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You lost track of something there...
Your mad that people call bush a publicity potato for going to Iraq but dont say the same about Clinton.
I pointed out that some have said that Bush is brave for going to Iraq but none attribute that to Hillery..
Not supprising you dont see it.
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I am not mad at all. I am generally quite happy.:)
I was just pointing out hypocricy comes from the left side as well. (both sides are filled with human beings after all.)
Not supprising you dont see it.
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I see Bush is following the fine example of Bill Clinton, who had Thanksgiving dinner with his troops serving in Kosovo in 1999.
I guess Bill Clinton is also a brave man with big balls.
LMAO!
"November 22, 1999, 4:30pm EST
CLINTON VISITS BULGARIA
President Clinton addressed 30,000 cheering Bulgarians Monday in a rally to celebrate the 10-year anniversary"
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"Clinton is expected to speak at a sports center in the southern town of Urosevac before having Thanksgiving dinner with troops at a Camp Bondsteel, a U.S. military base."
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/updates/november99/clinton_update_11-22.html
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Originally posted by Thrawn
I see Bush is following the fine example of Bill Clinton, who had Thanksgiving dinner with his troops serving in Kosovo in 1999.
I guess Bill Clinton is also a brave man with big balls.
LMAO!
"November 22, 1999, 4:30pm EST
CLINTON VISITS BULGARIA
President Clinton addressed 30,000 cheering Bulgarians Monday in a rally to celebrate the 10-year anniversary"
...
"Clinton is expected to speak at a sports center in the southern town of Urosevac before having Thanksgiving dinner with troops at a Camp Bondsteel, a U.S. military base."
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/updates/november99/clinton_update_11-22.html
Clinton's visit to Kosovo in '99 is akin to Bush's visit to London over a week ago.
A great gesture, but hardly the same threat level as his trip to Iraq. Odd that it came years after Clinton says he was sending them all home. That's probably why it didn't get the press time. Libs like to cover up that fact.
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Debate sometime in 04
Bush runs in late, apologizes, said he came up with an idea, and figured out how to cure AIDS with his chemistry set that afternoon. His 1st experiment didnt quite turn all that well, except for its a spiffy fertilizer/burnable matierial thus solving the worlds food/energy worries.
Hillary stands up and proceeds to strangle a cocker spanial puppy on national television, then proceeds to beat a toddler to death with said puppy corpse, all the while cursing the audience.
The AH lib population will come online post on this bbs on how evil bush and his haliburton money grubbing industrial babykilling telepathic illuminati mason friends from mars are
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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
She went to Iraq too, after Afganistan.
Please find a source that says Hillary was in Iraq on Thanksgiving, or even that she was going to Iraq after visiting Afghanistan. I have not seen this mentioned anywhere but here.
MiniD
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Originally posted by Airhead
Gunslinger, you should have joined the Navy instead of the Marines. The VIPs might have visited you and gotten dirty with you during the daytime, but at night they always helo'd back to the fleet and showered with the sailors. You would have liked that.
Especially this line:
lways helo'd back to the fleet and showered with the sailors
LMAO!
That is exactly why I didnt join the navy....especially submarines....150 sailors set sail......75 couples come back
JK of course :rofl
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Originally posted by Mini D
No... Hillary was in Afghanistan.
MiniD
hehe... I'd really like to see the troops reaction to her over there lol.
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Originally posted by Mini D
Please find a source that says Hillary was in Iraq on Thanksgiving, or even that she was going to Iraq after visiting Afghanistan. I have not seen this mentioned anywhere but here.
MiniD
She did go to Iraq yesterday but was not there on Thanksgiving I believe.
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Originally posted by Pongo
You lost track of something there...
Your mad that people call bush a publicity potato for going to Iraq but dont say the same about Clinton.
lol... because it's blatantly obvious, and who cares what Billary did? Appreciate the effort but knowing her history sets me on edge.
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Originally posted by Pooh21
Debate sometime in 04
Bush runs in late, apologizes, said he came up with an idea, and figured out how to cure AIDS with his chemistry set that afternoon. His 1st experiment didnt quite turn all that well, except for its a spiffy fertilizer/burnable matierial thus solving the worlds food/energy worries.
Hillary stands up and proceeds to strangle a cocker spanial puppy on national television, then proceeds to beat a toddler to death with said puppy corpse, all the while cursing the audience.
The AH lib population will come online post on this bbs on how evil bush and his haliburton money grubbing industrial babykilling telepathic illuminati mason friends from mars are
Bet you they won't ;)
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Originally posted by AKIron
She did go to Iraq yesterday but was not there on Thanksgiving I believe.
Yeah, some of the troops said they were more excited about their meal and to see Geraldo than Hillary.
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Originally posted by Mini D
Please find a source that says Hillary was in Iraq on Thanksgiving, or even that she was going to Iraq after visiting Afghanistan. I have not seen this mentioned anywhere but here.
MiniD
Hillary Clinton visits Iraq
Sat Nov 29, 7:05 AM ET Add Local - Allentown Morning Call to My Yahoo!
By Jim Krane
BAGHDAD, Iraq (news - web sites) | A day after President Bush (news - web sites)'s surprise visit, Sens. Hillary Rodham Clinton (news - web sites) and Jack Reed arrived Friday in less-dramatic style, saying it isn't too late to bring the United Nations (news - web sites) back to Iraq.
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So hillary wasn't in Iraq until the next day... but a few comment as if she were. Then people wonder why there was no mention of her there. Actually, there was mention of her in Afghanistan in both the press and here... which is where she was at the time.
MiniD
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You mean deported?:rolleyes: