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General Forums => Axis vs Allies => Topic started by: LtMagee on November 29, 2003, 08:52:31 PM
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This is a typical BOB unless you can do something about these guys milking England Bases. Can you increase troops to 25 to capture? This will keep them from milking England bases. This map is for FRance right?
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I played all after noon and non of the bases In England were in Fact Milked their was hard fighting around all of them, it was a lot of fun. The Battle is as you say is intended to be in France but realy the Plane set is what matter's and that plane set was in use in England. I intended to take a look at the map late tonight or early Tomarow Morning after the fighting has died down and move the front back to France. I have no intention of increasing the Hardness beyond 10 Troops it's a huge map and we will get to see more of this way, the front on the Contnent has not moved very much anyway.
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I think Magee's point is that it's the "Battle of France" not the "Battle of Britain" but apparently German bases on English soil is such an irresistable lure to most Luftwaffe fans that you WON'T see much of a battle on the continent (given the numbers playing in CT). ;)
Just sayin'.
Happens all the time. :D
By the by .... both carrier fleets have their aircraft disabled, yes? I haven't had a chance to try both sides yet.
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well Brady I get sick andf tired of hearing you say "its not what I intended on this map...." then you change something. Well, This is the France BOF so change it. If it were anything else you would.
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When I logged in it was 16 LW to 6 RAF/French. By the time I logged off the numbers were even and the fighting was intense. I could care less if you take bases or we take bases. I am more interesed in an even scrap.
JG-3 was hard at it last night and did some good for the Axis side - we'll get them. I was not too interested in defending FRANCE anyway .....:lol
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ok fine have it your way. IN that case just give the CT one map with two bases. Then you can just furball all you want and when it is captured it will simply reset two bases. Remove the "Theme" and just call it the FurBall Arena...much like the TA, and the Capture Arena much like the MA.
I simply complained that Brady "Intended" for this to be the French war (BOF) and the Axis guys took advantage and moved into England. No different than a PTO map and the Tempest being available to the allies and the allies using it. The Axis guys cry thier eyes out when that happens. Im not complaining about the plane set other than if the fight is going to be in England, remove the BOF theme and enable the spits at all fields and call it the BoB.
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Better yet ... "Operation Sealion (The weather in the channel was good this time and the British fleet mysteriously sank itself ... AND the Spitfires all turned into P-40s with French markings)." ;)
*ShruG* ... I'm easy just paint the right picture. :D
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OK-fine, raise the number of troops, reset the map, give LT. MaGee what he wants. Then we will stay on our side of the water (maybe). But give us the unperked tiger to defend the bases on our front that will be taken by the allies. No wait a minute this would just lead to the same whine with a different theme.
The bottom line is that last night it was actually a Combat Theater. There was an offensive campaign-there were bases taken-bases defended-bases taken back. IT WAS A WELL FOUGHT WAR ON ALL SIDES!
The balance of each side was seen, and good fights were had by all.
GOOD GOD MEN-Find something to really be upset about
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I see what Magee is saying, but maybe not for the same reason. For what it is worth I would have rather seen the LW capture most or all of the bases on the East side “before” they hopped over to England. I am not going to lose any sleep over it, but with the low numbers the CT struggles with it does tend to open up multiple fronts and the time to find a fight lengthens. For that reason alone I would avoid those kinds of base captures.
On the flip side it is a lot of fun with be on with your squadies and “reach” for a base that would be out of the norm. I don’t know who captured the bases in England, but I bet they had a lot of fun.
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There where some good GV battles also and as the governer of Calif said " WE"LL BE BACK".:aok
The Gear
JGIII/Drachen 1
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Brady,
There is nothing wrong with this set up. Magee is just mad because we took the initative and the fight to them. If it was intended that the fighting be only in France then England should not be on the map. Well it was and we took advantage of it.
Magee, I don't know what the problem is. You used to be a good guy when we were in the 325th, but man you have become the biggest whiner in the CT. It's a fricken game. Just play it and have fun and give the rest of us a break.
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Just think about it for a momment....
If hitler could have done what we did,not saying that he didn't try do you think the front lines would have stayed in france?
The Gear
JG III/Drachen 1
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You think about it. If Hitler had stopped his invasion of France six hours into the Blitzkreig and tried to invade England at that point would he have been in a better position to carry out an Operation like Sea Lion (which he wasn't in a very good position to carry out even after France was secure)?
Don't confuse this CT setup with any possible reasonable variation of history. It just ain't there. Better to stick with the rationalization of "we did it because we could do it, whatcha gonna do `bout it?!" ;) :aok
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If Hitler had been able to capture an airbase in england with 10 men then he likley would have. Especialy if it had majically been in logistical supply as soon as it was captured with a limitless supply of vehicles and aircraft. Hell he would have tried for a few fields in the US with that kind of capability..but what has that got to do with anything.?
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Disable goons and LVTs.
Now England is safe, and the battle goes where it should.
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Actually dadog that is it. Why doesnt brady just neutral those bases as Rook bases and make them off limits?
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Bear you guys took advantage of a good set-up. I look down on your operation sorry but I do. Just as you guys would if we did the same thing. Fighting 109s vs P-40s is bad enough. The P-40B actually seams to be more acuratley modeled with the P-36 so this is a good match-up considering the historical setting. Everything the axis has will outrun the allied fighters. If this were an allied historical map and the allies had the edge (which they do at times) you guys will and do whine. As a matter of fact, if it had been allies taking advantage Brady would of had a heart attack trying to correct it. This for the first time ever...he ignored what was against his intentions.
This is a great historical map but lets keep it in France. P-40s earn every kill they land. They cant climb, run or turn. No where to hide.
If we are going to fight in England then lets enable the spits and call it the BoB.
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Magee,
I guess Brady got tired of your bellyaching and reset the map.
You always, and I mean always, complain the allies have the disadvantage. Been awhile since you flew axis I guess. P40's been catching me with no problem. And when did 303's hit harder than a 20MM? Try flying one and see for yourself. It took two 109's expending all cannon and half the machine guns to kill an A20. No wonder so many guys are dogfighting in an A20. If we were dogfighting in 88"s you'd have a hissyfit. We just accept we usually don't have the plane selection or the numbers the allies have. Try to be a little more objective before you start your whine fest.
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Actually dadog that is it. Why doesnt brady just neutral those bases as Rook bases and make them off limits?
Like I said it is fun for squads to reach. I am sure those guys had fun taking bases in England. The downside is it tends to thin the skies with multiple fronts. Beyond that I don’t really worry about it. ;) It bothers some and others don’t care. In a week it will be different. Life goes on. :)
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Originally posted by Bear76
Magee,
I guess Brady got tired of your bellyaching and reset the map.
Like has been done for Axis protesters time and again in the past. And?[/color]
You always, and I mean always, complain the allies have the disadvantage.
For irony watch what comes next.[/color]
Been awhile since you flew axis I guess. P40's been catching me with no problem. And when did 303's hit harder than a 20MM? Try flying one and see for yourself. It took two 109's expending all cannon and half the machine guns to kill an A20. No wonder so many guys are dogfighting in an A20. If we were dogfighting in 88"s you'd have a hissyfit.
See? And he doesn't even realize he's doing it, I bet.[/color]
We just accept we usually don't have the plane selection or the numbers the allies have.
Allies:
P40B(French)
Boston(French)
Huricane I
Spit I (Whoops - axed due to Axis whining - heh)
C47
The M's
Panzer IV
Germans:
109E-4
110C-4
JU-87
JU-88
C47
The M's
Panzer IV
Come again? ROFL
Try to be a little more objective before you start your whine fest.
EXACTLY! Ahem.[/color]
:aok :rofl
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I will just say for the record I couldnt give a tinkers crap about base capture. Go capture all the bases you want. The CT isnt about that. To me its a non issue. Fly there and have fun, capture, dont capture, furball, dont furball, fly alone, fly with 10 mates, fly bombers, or dont.
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Thanks for proving my point Arlene, no wonder you have the reputation you do...you are a riot.
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Thanks for proving my point Arlene
LOL, Shane has rubbed off on Storch and storch has rubbed off on Bear...wait, too much rubbing going on over on the axis side.
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Originally posted by Bear76
Thanks for proving my point Arlene, no wonder you have the reputation you do...you are a riot.
LOL
How in the world did my post prove Magee whines too much? :rolleyes:
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Must be talkin' to you cause I'm on his ignore list. ;)