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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Curval on November 30, 2003, 08:51:29 AM
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I picked this up Friday evening.
I wanted the silver-grey model but my son is a huge "Red Ranger" fan and he loves to ride on the bike...so I got the red one.
It is just a 125cc Honda...but it is the biggest engine size allowed on this tiny nannied little island.
Good fun to ride though. :)
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-11/465565/trewranger2176.jpg)
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-11/465565/trewranger.jpg)
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nice bike curval. What Island is that? They impose a limit on CC's? Are the roads juist very short or something?:)
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just curious... what is your governments excuse for not allowing you to have a motorcyle (anything over 125cc)?
oh... and you are fine with that?
lazs
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I don't know about the Government restrictions on engine size, but they sure don't have a minimum age on driver's licenses.
And why does the Government make Curval wear that mask instead of a helmet :confused:
Nice Scooter, Curval :aok
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Oh lazs, lazs lazs...you are so predictable.
The limit is set for a varierty of reasons.
The roads are very small and narrow. Large bikes would need to cross into the other lane to be able to make many of the turns, especially at any kind of speed.
Given the speed limits are very low you would never get out of 3rd gear with a larger cc bike. My understanding is that there are speed limits in the US as well. Ours are set low for probably the same reasons your are...safety.
I doubt you agree with the limits in Dixon and surrounding area lazs....but unless you stick to 'em the man is gonna ticket you. Same here.
Helmets are also required...this shot was my son in his Halloween costume.
This I know grinds you lazs...but it is another commanlity between my island and your country.
Let us celebrate our nannnyhood together. :)
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See now this is why I could never, ever, ever live in Bermuda.
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2002-9/48257/20029211530-0-Swoop.gif)
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You should have gotten a 2-stroke bike and tune the hell out of it.
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Two strokes sound like high speed blenders.
lol Swoop...I figured YOU would say something like that.
:p
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Originally posted by Curval
I picked this up Friday evening.
I wanted the silver-grey model but my son is a huge "Red Ranger" fan and he loves to ride on the bike...so I got the red one.
It is just a 125cc Honda...but it is the biggest engine size allowed on this tiny nannied little island.
Good fun to ride though. :)
Nice bike Curval!
p.s. I have a Honda too, but it's only an 1800cc cruiser :)
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Use to have a Dragster 175 for racing around town, Great fun! Thing could do 160kph and out accelerate anything for the first few meters.
Plus you could get your knee down on the corners quite easily. And with titanium knee sliders able to put on quite a show for your mates at night. lol
...-Gixer
~Hells Angels~
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LOL... a real bike would be too big to go around corners? Is that what they toldya? Yu are "safer" on a little tiny bike? is that what they toldya? You can't have a gun cause you will hurt yourself? is that what they told ya?
It's not so much how fast ya go it's how much fun ya have gettin there. It all about variety, freedom and choice... anyone who tries to take those things away from you should be considered the enemy.... yes... that really is all there is to it.
lazs
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The roads are very small and narrow. Large bikes would need to cross into the other lane to be able to make many of the turns, especially at any kind of speed.
do you have cars?
I only had 1 bike in my life that couldn't out corner any car(42"forks, turned like a ship)
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I couldnt live there. I love my 1 liter rocket.
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Okinawa has many 1 lane roads and they used to limit bikes to 750cc. However, that wasn't due to road conditions or safety but rather that was the largest driven by the police and they didn't want be out run.
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It all about variety, freedom and choice... anyone who tries to take those things away from you should be considered the enemy.... yes... that really is all there is to it.
Wheres Grun? Bermuda must be a communist country!!!
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Lazs
Motorbike CC engine size are restricted for a good reason. Stop inexperienced riders from killing themselves on a bigger bikes then they can handle.
Though this rule worked well a few decades ago, I think today it would be alot more effective to restrict bikes by HP. As there are alot of production 125's that can do 100 plus mph.
...-Gixer
~Hells Angels~
Originally posted by lazs2
just curious... what is your governments excuse for not allowing you to have a motorcyle (anything over 125cc)?
oh... and you are fine with that?
lazs
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Originally posted by Gixer
Lazs
Motorbike CC engine size are restricted for a good reason. Stop inexperienced riders from killing themselves on a bigger bikes then they can handle.
Though this rule worked well a few decades ago, I think today it would be alot more effective to restrict bikes by HP. As there are alot of production 125's that can do 100 plus mph.
...-Gixer
~Hells Angels~
Lazs is usually capable of speaking for himself but I think you just made his point.
Are you saying that experienced riders are then allowed more horsepower?
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I thought curbs and asphalt were the arbiters of power vs experience?
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I was just saying that engine size isn't the great restriction on bike performance that it use to be. Since alot of 125's are very very fast.
And yes HP should be restricted to inexperienced riders (meaning less then 6 months experience) as I can gurantee most new riders would kill themselves on my bike within 2 weeks. Or at best end up with a couple of injuries and a written off bike.
Of course goverments don't really need to restrict bike performance. As insurance companies do it from them with unafordable premiums.
Even an experienced rider can't afford to insure anything over 600cc in some countries.
...-Gixer
~Hells Angles~
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Originally posted by Gixer
And yes HP should be restricted to inexperienced riders (meaning less then 6 months experience) as I can gurantee most new riders would kill themselves on my bike within 2 weeks. Or at best end up with a couple of injuries and a written off bike.
...-Gixer
~Hells Angles~
Actually you cant garauntee that at all. Age (or maturity level rather ) plays a HUGE role in that equation. I am 36, hadn't owned a bike for 18 years and now ride my fz1. I am inexperienced, but argue that I make much better decisions than a younger, more inmature rider would. I simply understand the possible consequences of a high speed crash. I ride "briskly" but have yet to go down. I have had a few cagers test my reflexes though, and have made a couple of mistakes, though not catestrophic.
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It doesn't matter what size your bike is, there are only 3 basic types of riders, those that have crashed, those that are gonna crash, and those that are kidding themselves.
that said, I spent the first 3-4 years of my adult life using a bike as my only transportation (except Dec, Jan, Feb where the wifes car had to fill in when the road had ice or the temp got below 35)
I've put it on the ground twice (once my fault and once an old woman who couldn't see over her stearing wheel did the infamous 'left turn'.
I've actually taken more damage in car accidents than either of the bike wrecks, and at slower speeds.
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True I can't gurantee that. But the statistics unfortunetly show that the highest rate of fatal accidents for bikers fall to the 40 plus age group.
Those getting back into biking after a few years off and are use to the performance of their old Triumph Twin.
...-Gixer
~Hells Angles~
Originally posted by -ammo-
Actually you cant garauntee that at all. Age (or maturity level rather ) plays a HUGE role in that equation. I am 36, hadn't owned a bike for 18 years and now ride my fz1. I am inexperienced, but argue that I make much better decisions than a younger, more inmature rider would. I simply understand the possible consequences of a high speed crash. I ride "briskly" but have yet to go down. I have had a few cagers test my reflexes though, and have made a couple of mistakes, though not catestrophic.
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what statistics do you have? I would perceive from all the accident reports I have seen that teenage-25 year old riders would be the most prone to an accident.
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well... now I am confused... is it because he lives in munchkinville and the roads are big enough for cars but not motorcycles or... is it because he will hurt himself if his government doesn't watch over him?
seems like just another case of big nanny taking away rights because she can with no real reason..
600cc? who came up with that magic number? you guys really roll over and spread your legs for your governments out there eh?
here you can buy a 502 cubic inch, 600 hp motorcycle and insure it for very little cost. It is all about what you want to do not what the government or the effeminate guy in the city wants you to do.... for a while yet anyway. combine that with your concealled carry permit for your 44 mag and you will make euros faint.
lazs
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Nothing wrong with small engines on small bikes. Its the power/weight ratio and how its optimized.
I think the Red Ranger and the red cycle with the spikey tail are a perfect match!
You gonna put a windscreen on it?
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Lazs...I'll try and find the government regulations specific to mototcycles.
One thing you guys need to understand..sure we have cars. But those cars MUST fit certain dimension crieria..ie they need to be small. Now it wouldn't make much sense to allow ANY car here because 2 large ones would meet on a road and be unable to pass each other. This is not a case of nannying...just COMMON FREAKING SENSE. We also have yer two way streets on which there is only room for one car...you have to go slow and be careful. If you meet another car, someone has to back up until they fund a driveway they can back into to allow the other car to pass. Such occurances would no doubt lead to massive road rage incidents in the US....here it is part of life.
Now, you could have larger bikes, because as many have pointed out many big bikes have quite small turn radius' but hey...rules are rules. This island is 21 miles long. Just how far do you want to drive a 1,000 CC bullet bike?
Funny how you can really argue a point about the laws of this island lazs, but this is one place you haven't been yet and this dosen't qualify you to express an opinion at all.
Come visit...stay at my place, and I'll show you what it is like. Then we can have a civil discussion.
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so curval.... you can see no reason for the law just that "rules are rules"??? man, I hope I never get that complacent..
How bout the government let me decide what is practical? I know that is a pretty big concept and you don't need to answer right away... give yourself some time to wrap your brain around it.
I am not an island person but thanks for the offer.
lazs
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Maybe they don't wanna scare the tourists with any big loud motorcycles? Not knocking it, a country has the right to protect a source of income.
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Curval,
Nice scooter you got there. I bet it won't be too long before that "Ranger" decides he needs some quality time on it :).
I grew up in Brasil and where I grew up most of the streets and roads were so poor that anything bigger than something like you bought was impractical. No government restrictions were there, some guys had some cool 4 cyl. Indians and there were a couple of old Harleys but it just wasn't very practical.
Hope you have fun with it.
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Originally posted by lazs2
so curval.... you can see no reason for the law just that "rules are rules"??? man, I hope I never get that complacent..
How bout the government let me decide what is practical? I know that is a pretty big concept and you don't need to answer right away... give yourself some time to wrap your brain around it.
I am not an island person but thanks for the offer.
lazs
Perhaps I need an arsenal of guns to show that I will refuse to be complacent?
Strange though...I didn't hear anything about a Waco style shootout when helmet laws were passed in California...I would have thought it would have centered around a little hovel in Dixon. Afterall..how could anyone with any dignity or self respect put up with such an imposition on your freedom?
What "did" you do when these laws were imposed lazs? Surley you didn't take it "lying down"?
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Punt to see if Lazs just likes to just throw poo about and won't answer a very simple question.
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I thought you were taller than that Curval ...
No need to be ashamed of your power ranger passion in a flightsim nerd BBS ;)
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LOL
nice pics Curval...do you always mask your children in public ;) (Couldnt resist!) Hmm....who else does that... :lol
He I had an old Ninja 250cc when I was 17...full fairing, etc. It looked fast....sounded silly with a pipe ;)
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I have to ask ... what theft prevention measures have you applied to this ride or what measures are you going to take ?
Is that a banana plant in the background ?
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He has that bike lock laying on the rear wheel... not going through anything else. That should deter theft.
MiniD
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curval.. I do not ride motorcycles anymore.. quit before the helmet law but... I do everything I can to prevent the government from running my life short of armed rebeliion. I have signed petitions and voted and attended rallies. even tho I don't ride....
that is the difference.... I am not making excuses for my state... I am not making excuses for my government and getting on here justifying draconian nanny laws and saying anyone else needs to follow Californias example.. I am not voting to restrict other people.... to protect them from themselves.
California is on a socialist, nanny, busybody downhill slide. I will probly not retire here. I will move somewhere that leaves me alone more.
lazs
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Originally posted by Mini D
He has that bike lock laying on the rear wheel... not going through anything else. That should deter theft.
MiniD
Bike lock through the rear wheel as pointed out above, steering lock is also "on"...and the bike sits under a sensor light so that if anyone approaches it the light goes on.
The dog will be there too soon.
:)
I'm sure if this is stolen it will somehow STILL be my fault.
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Originally posted by SlapShot
Is that a banana plant in the background ?
Yes. ;)
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Originally posted by lazs2
California is on a socialist, nanny, busybody downhill slide. I will probly not retire here. I will move somewhere that leaves me alone more.
lazs
Montana (http://www.cnn.com/US/freemen/) is a possibility.
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Lazs, "here you can buy a 502 cubic inch, 600 hp motorcycle and insure it for very little cost." LMAO, bet that's not a Harley.
Lazs, out of interest. Ask an insurance company you've just obtained your bike licence and want to insure your new GSXR1000 for $10,000USD or what ever they cost new there. See what they come up with. Gurantee it will be alot more then "very little".
By the way, shame you gave up biking just over helmet laws. I guess the government was looking to reduce head injuries and fatalities on bikes. Yet for you they stopped you from riding altogether.
...-Gixer
~Hells Angels~
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Originally posted by Curval
Bike lock through the rear wheel as pointed out above, steering lock is also "on"...and the bike sits under a sensor light so that if anyone approaches it the light goes on.
The dog will be there too soon.
How about two U-shaped pipes sunk in concrete at either end of the motorcycle, to go along with those U-locks?
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Originally posted by Curval
Bike lock through the rear wheel as pointed out above, steering lock is also "on"...and the bike sits under a sensor light so that if anyone approaches it the light goes on.
I'm sure if this is stolen it will somehow STILL be my fault.
Stearing locks are completely ineffective. What I mean to say is... THEY ARE TOTALLY INEFFECTIVE.
It's not a matter of it being your fault the bike was stolen... it's a matter of you not wanting to take steps to make it more secure. A cable lock going through the frame to something secure (in concrete) nearby is all it takes.
MiniD
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Originally posted by Gixer
Lazs, out of interest. Ask an insurance company you've just obtained your bike licence and want to insure your new GSXR1000 for $10,000USD or what ever they cost new there. See what they come up with. Gurantee it will be alot more then "very little".
Here in Florida, if you get $10k in insurance, you don't need to wear a helmet. I guess the gov'ts thinking there was that only stupid people would pay the insurance premiums for that much coverage, and if they did then they'd get "Darwined" out of the gene pool eventually. Either that or it was a conspiracy between the gov't and the insurance companies to jack up revenues. I suspect the latter more than the former.
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Originally posted by Mini D
Stearing locks are completely ineffective. What I mean to say is... THEY ARE TOTALLY INEFFECTIVE.
It's not a matter of it being your fault the bike was stolen... it's a matter of you not wanting to take steps to make it more secure. A cable lock going through the frame to something secure (in concrete) nearby is all it takes.
MiniD
I see your point Mini, but did you see my list? I have the U-Lock (which I was told was the reason I was at fault for not having one prior), I have the useless strearing lock, and I have also installed sensor lights above where I place my bike...no longer on the driveway.
Now I guess I will need a mason to come in and concrete some metal posts (probably re-bar) so that I can now chain it to an imovable object in order to take the "necessary steps" to which you refer?
My goodness.
Is it just me...or is this over-freakin-kill?
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Originally posted by lazs2
so curval.... you can see no reason for the law just that "rules are rules"??? man, I hope I never get that complacent..
How bout the government let me decide what is practical? I know that is a pretty big concept and you don't need to answer right away... give yourself some time to wrap your brain around it.
I am not an island person but thanks for the offer.
lazs
1. they have maybe 25 miles of road there...owning a big bike is like using a nuke to take out a mosquito...
2. practical is practical...just because the government decided to stop morons from killing people with there big cars and bikes doesnt mean its not practical...
next laz is going to be denouncing the government because its deciding things for him...
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Curval, you put that u-lock on the most ineffective location possible. What I see is you passively waiving your had at "securing" the bike... and acting defensive when someone points it out to you.
MiniD
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Originally posted by Mini D
Curval, you put that u-lock on the most ineffective location possible. What I see is you passively waiving your had at "securing" the bike... and acting defensive when someone points it out to you.
MiniD
He's right. You really should put the U-lock to something secure. Heck, you could take the easy way out and fill a garbage can full of concrete and lock the bike to that. Take a can, drill a hole, insert a piece of rebar or piping, fill the can, let dry, lock the bike to it, and you're good to go.
Or, if you want to be decorative, see if you can score one of those concrete jockey statues with the metal ring in its outstretched hand.
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Originally posted by Mini D
Curval, you put that u-lock on the most ineffective location possible. What I see is you passively waiving your had at "securing" the bike... and acting defensive when someone points it out to you.
MiniD
I'm not passively waving my hand at securing my bike. I have placed the U-Lock on the bike...there are better spots, no denying it...but I don't have anything secured to a wall or anything to put it around as well....I will have to install something.
I actually had to think about your initial post...I couldn't figure out if you were pointing out the positive..in that I actually have a U-lock...or that you were being critical at the location on which I placed the lock.
I assumed the latter after two or three reads, and based upon our BBS relationship. :) Turns out I was right. Whodathunk it?
You have ignored the other facts though, and concentrated only on the locks.
I repeat...I have moved the bike out of the drive-way and under the stairs to the back door (it cannot be seen from the road now btw). I have installed a sensor-light that will go on if anyone approaches the bike.
So I'm not really being defensive...just being my usual argumentative self. ;)
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Originally posted by gofaster
Heck, you could take the easy way out and fill a garbage can full of concrete and lock the bike to that. Take a can, drill a hole, insert a piece of rebar or piping, fill the can, let dry, lock the bike to it, and you're good to go.
Or, if you want to be decorative, see if you can score one of those concrete jockey statues with the metal ring in its outstretched hand.
On your first point...I could also just drag out an old used washing machine/ toilet/ basin/pick-up truck engine and set them in concrete and attach the U-lock to that. I'm sure it will go down well with the entire neighboorhood. ;) Well....maybe in Dixon, California (jk lazs)
Those concrete jockeys you refer to are generally wee little black men. Good way to get a molotov cocktail through my window from a local who thinks I'm a racist. I guess I could try and find a white one..or paint the black guy white maybe.
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Can you pop a wheelie on that thing?
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hmmm curval... don't think you quite have this 'freedom" concept down yet...
let's just say that the govenrment let's YOU decide what is practical eh?
and... I am a little confused.... are you saying that big cars and motorcycles would kill everyone and so your government is banning them for your own good and you are fine with that?
lazs
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and... I am a little confused.... are you saying that big cars and motorcycles would kill everyone and so your government is banning them for your own good and you are fine with that?
i think hes saying there really isnt much use for big cars...and they get in the way of the regular traffic...so they've banned them because it would interupt commerce
let's just say that the govenrment let's YOU decide what is practical eh?
you dont seem to understand that in some cases its BEST the government lay down laws...why should the people of bermuda have to suffer with traffic jams because 1 or 2 people decided to buy a big car or fast motorcycle then crashed into something or couldent get around a corner...
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Originally posted by Curval
On your first point...I could also just drag out an old used washing machine/ toilet/ basin/pick-up truck engine and set them in concrete and attach the U-lock to that. I'm sure it will go down well with the entire neighboorhood. ;) Well....maybe in Dixon, California (jk lazs)
Those concrete jockeys you refer to are generally wee little black men. Good way to get a molotov cocktail through my window from a local who thinks I'm a racist. I guess I could try and find a white one..or paint the black guy white maybe.
If you painted the can red, black, and yellow, you could call it a souvenir from Key West (http://www.firstboat.schoolreference.com/southernmost.jpg) :lol
Here in Florida the jockey statues are sold unpainted. My neighbor painted his up to look like an old-school UF college student, with varsity jacket and football pants. Your kids would get a kick out of it.
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Whoa curval... no reason to take so much time to explain your obtuse behavior. The cop said you should have a u-bolt on there... it doesn't really matter that you could have just left it in the package sitting on the seat and had it be as effective as the way you put it on the tire.
Make fun of not wanting to actually lock the bike up all you want. Of corse, you may also want to expect the usual barage of "you moron" when you post another thread about another stolen scooter. It's not you're fault... it's the criminals. Remember that and you can be as dumb as you like.
MiniD
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lazs...Vorticon has the idea down pat....you can learn alot from young guys like him.
lol Gofaster...I was in fact thinking more along the lines of a guy in a suit of armour...might fit in well with the "Helms Deep" concept.
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Mini...keep ignoring the other points I've raised and focus on the brilliant obsevation you made about how I put the lock on.
You look cooler and cooler every time.
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Originally posted by Curval
lol Gofaster...I was in fact thinking more along the lines of a guy in a suit of armour...might fit in well with the "Helms Deep" concept.
Interesting piece of history (http://www.horseinfo.com/info/misc/jockeyinfo.html) about those little yard statues. You can safely secure your new bike and teach your kids some history at the same time!
(http://www.lawnornamentsandfountains.com/images/products/massatellis/2620.jpg)
Seems the going rate for these things is in the $150 ballpark.
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Those concrete jockeys you refer to are generally wee little black men. Good way to get a molotov cocktail through my window from a local who thinks I'm a racist. I guess I could try and find a white one..or paint the black guy white maybe.
dont you keep it under your back stairs so that no one will see the bike...if they cant see the bike they cant see the little black man...houses dont "clip" in real life you know
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vorticon... despite curvals assurance that you have it down pat... I still don't see how a motorcycle with a bigger engine will cause taffic jams by crashing more than one with a 125cc engine or even a small car.
as for the car thing... I didn't really care about the cars but if you live in a little theme park then perhaps you can't have a large car but... that would be apparent to the owner in short order. practicality would rule it out... I imagine gas prices are pretty high too... What do they do for taxis and buses?
lazs