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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: FUNKED1 on November 30, 2003, 06:33:16 PM
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MiniD is in the race hosting business. If you have this game and those mods, sound off, so I can pwn j00 all with my 1337 4 wheel drifting 5k33115.
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Originally posted by FUNKED1
MiniD is in the race hosting business. If you have this game and those mods, sound off, so I can pwn j00 all with my 1337 4 wheel drifting 5k33115.
I play gpl all other racing sims suk compared to it:D
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That was true about 5 years ago when GPL came out. There are several games out now with better physics, netcode, graphics, sounds, etc. F1 Challenge 99-02 is one of them. GPL is a great game, but showing its age.
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Funked u finally decided to get it? ETCC, M3C, soon MiniC and leman ... F1RST is a good place for online races.
But if MiniD is hosting, let's do a AH challenge :)
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OK I'm hosting on F1RST. It's called "Aces High M3 Challenge". Password is "dolts".
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Shutting down for the night.
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If you have NASCAR 2003, there is a excellent MOD of TransAm cars out.
http://www.theuspits.com
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I think you mean this: http://www.onlineracin.com/pwf/
It's not exactly "out" yet. Very rough beta. No graphics, no real T/A tracks, etc. Should be awesome if they finish it.
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FUNKED - you got a URL for the M3 DL? I can only find the 1.1 patch.
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NM - found it
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Post your F1RST nicks if you have them.
I'm FUNKED1 on there just like here.
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Here's some more links:
M3 Challenge
Main Forum http://forum.racesimcentral.com/forumdisplay.php?f=258
Download Thread http://forum.racesimcentral.com/showthread.php?t=110079
Patch Thread http://forum.racesimcentral.com/showthread.php?t=109990
ETCC Download
http://forum.racesimcentral.com/showthread.php?t=117266&highlight=download
ETCC Patch
http://revolution.drivingitalia.net/portal/index.php?Itemid=1
F1RST
http://www.f1rst2.com
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Yes PWF is going to be nice.
Here is the one that I was thinking about, just Mustangs and Vettes now.
http://www.theuspits.com/sims/nascar_racing/tptcc-download.html
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Very cool, thx for the link.
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Don't forget to get Mosport from PWF, alot of fun.
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"That was true about 5 years ago when GPL came out. There are several games out now with better physics, netcode, graphics, sounds, etc. F1 Challenge 99-02 is one of them. GPL is a great game, but showing its age."
netcode - GPL is better
graphic - GPL is better with the "addons" GPLEA cars and many more great tracks
physics - No Idea
sounds - F1 Challenge is better is you like the whine of the modern F1 engine
I own both and enjoy both, but I still think overall GPL is better.
I am waiting for the Project Wildfire Patch for N2003.
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Yer nuts. :)
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hehe to each there own, both are great games but fun factor for me GPL is the one.
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what did you say about graphics ;)
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They look good in stills, but once they start moving, the rendering engine lets them down. All the highlights and shadows are static, not dynamic like in F1C and other modern games. People have done great work on the new textures for GPL, but the old engine still lets them down.
Sound, it's the same thing. People have made nice WAV files, but it's still a 2 channel system. F1C supports 5.1 surround, EAX, etc.
Netcode, no comparison. You get anywhere near a car in GPL and it warps into you and you get bizzare warp collisions with cars jumping about and flying through the air. Same situation in F1C and it's smooth as silk. Just the other night I pushed MiniD across the finish line when he ran out of gas.
Anyways, either come race with us or go hijack another thread. :)
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PS GROWL needs drivers: http://forums.speedgeezers.com/cgi-bin/iB311/ikonboard.cgi?;act=SC;c=7
Good guys to race with.
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I said sound was better in F1..hehe
I have the same problem with warps in F1C, not with GPL odd.
I am done no more hijacking your thread, I raced with GROWL the first couple of seasons no time to play online really anymore AH or anything else for that matter :(
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Damn, get your priorities straight and come racing. :)
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I am really bad with set times, it's usually on days where I have work or other more pressing matters.
Unfortunately I hotlap when I have the chance but thats about it.
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Funked, i have raced side-by-side with other drivers for years in GPL. If you're having warp problems it's gotta be a laggy server, your connect, or the other guy's connect. Papyrus has the best MP netcode around for racing sims....
C.
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Cabby I bought it the first day it came out. Always been warpy and glitchy on every machine and ISP I have tried it on. It must hate me. :)
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Downloaded M3 Challenge... eh, its ok.
I still disagree with the spin charectaristics. When you modulate throttle to control the rear its not 'hit or miss' in real life as it is in the game. Other than that I was halfway impressed. I dunno if its a control or setup problem but the brakes positively suck on the M3's. Granted they are heavy cars by touring car standards, but geeezus.
Downloading F1RST, ETCC and patch right now. Should be up by tonight.
F1RST name will be same as here I suppose.
Anyone hosting tonight?
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Saur I'll be hosting in about 45 minutes.
MiniD complained about the power oversteer too.
I messed around with setups, and increasing the diff lock percentage (I maxed it out) gave me better balance exiting, with just a little more push entering.
Also the thing is really sensitive to anti roll bar settings, so play with that. After my diff change I stiffened the rear ~5% and softened the front ~5% and the car would turn in nicely.
Part of the brakes problem is that the game simulates brake heating, and they suck when they are cold. Also the default setup gives you only 90% brake pressure, so move that up to 100%.
I like ETCC too, and am happy to play that. We were just playing M3C because that's what MiniD (the n00b) had installed.
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Rgr - Ill screw around with some of it tonight. Ive got all 'aids' off with the exception of ABS - as far as I can tell, there is no way to tell if you are sliding or slowing down so Ill let the computer figure it out.
Very different feel compared to GTR2002. I miss the downforce too.
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Try reducing the engine sound while keeping sound effects at 100%. You can hear the tires a little more. I wish more games would have an exaggerated tire sound to replace the feel and vibration you get in a real car.
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Turned a few laps with ETCC - I like it. The feel is definately better than the M3C mod - the Audi's are nice - the 320i still suffers from the same throttle oversteer problems. Bah.
In any event - think I figured F1RST out - what will you be naming your server FUNKED?
(Ill sign onto AIM - youve got my name, right? Same as here)
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I'll call it Aces High something.
Password will be "dolts"
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No need for ICQ, just meet in the chat/lobby on F1RST.
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Well funked... went to change my car to Alfa and Ive decided I hate F1RST... worse that Gamespy.
Still cant get it to start and connect,
POS.
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Same here, they are having an outage of some sort. Well at least we got connected for a while. I sorted out my firewall problems so we won't have that problem again where you guys can get in my room but not into the race.
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Ok - good to know it wasnt just me.
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Originally posted by Saurdaukar
Downloaded M3 Challenge... eh, its ok.
I still disagree with the spin charectaristics. When you modulate throttle to control the rear its not 'hit or miss' in real life as it is in the game. Other than that I was halfway impressed. I dunno if its a control or setup problem but the brakes positively suck on the M3's. Granted they are heavy cars by touring car standards, but geeezus.
I kinda agree with that. I've only had one higher hp rwd car... and found that even on wet pavement I could feel the overstear coming on and control it with the throttle. I understand in high speed corners this wouldn't be an option... but on the straights and such I still don't notice much response via drift when easing off the throttle.
MiniD
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Guys, give it more time then you will get an awsome feel for the M3 of M3C. At first I was spining for nothing, the I could really master those power slides in the turns if I had to do some exibition.:cool:
On the other end, ETCC beemer, no joy, when the thing goes, it goes. It has the same syndrome as the F1s of the game, rarely going sideway without spining, not like you see on TV.:(
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I don't really have much of a problem in the turn... it's coming out and accelerating hard on the straights. It does seem the rear end should snap back a bit quicker when letting off of the throttle.
MiniD
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Coming from GPL and rally sims and LFS, I find the M3 pretty easy to handle when the tail comes out a bit. Not that I'm such a stud, but that this M3 is not a real beast in the grand scheme of race sims. The main problem is that a sim car doesn't give you nearly the feedback that you get in a real car.
Try easing off the throttle partially instead of just dropping it. Remember that when you go off the throttle, you will pick up some rear grip by reducing the torque on the rears, but you will also loose some grip because the weight transfers forward.
Anyways, jack those diff percentages up and a lot of that will go away. Same goes for the 320i in ETCC. The default diff settings are almost wide open, no good for a car with that much power. It handles a lot like the M3 if you move the power and coast percentages up to 40/20 or so.
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there is a rumor that Mondo, ( a infamous GROWL driver) has a new computer and is thinking of coming out of retirment.
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Rerelease the F1 game dummies!!!
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Originally posted by FUNKED1
Damn, get your priorities straight and come racing. :)
Should I buy one of those fancy steering wheels to be competitive?
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Yes, but you'll still be only able to see my rear bumper!!
Oh, and Mondo is a WRECKER!!...had to get that pre-emptive strike in!
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I have F1 Challenge 99-02, and also play "rfactor" which is a new racing sim (online). Let me download some of this stuff you guys posted. I'm personally getting a tad bit burned out on AH2. This might be what the doctor ordered.
Karaya
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So GTR isn't worth mention?
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Originally posted by moot
So GTR isn't worth mention?
Quite the opposite, in fact.
Dont think we have it yet in the States, though.
The F1 mod was absolutely outstanding. Best physics Ive ever "felt" outside of a real car on a real track. Loved how they even got lift oversteer to feel right.
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GTR (a spiffed up mod to buy) is ok, been playing it off and on for about a month now. If you have Nascar Racing you may be content to DL the GTP mod.
It's a mod made by some hardcore GPL guys, who are into realism, very good quality.
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http://forum.rscnet.org/showthread.php?t=190419
http://forum.rscnet.org/showthread.php?t=190728