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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: gofaster on December 01, 2003, 11:10:03 AM
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Today is the start of a new tour. This is when I like to start a new plane since I can track what I'm killing in it and what's killing me while I'm flying it.
All you D-stang guys might want to give the B-stang a try for a bit, just to see if you can handle speed management to avoid compression and work on your gunnery to get kills with 2 fewer guns.
That's what I plan on doing, for this week at least.
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Originally posted by gofaster
All you D-stang guys might want to give the B-stang a try for a bit, just to see if you can handle speed management to avoid compression and work on your gunnery to get kills with 2 fewer guns.
In the MA those extra 2 guns are really needed, your saddled up alot longer with a fewer gun package. The longer you are in the fight the more likely the chance of getting ganged comes into play.
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Originally posted by WldThing
In the MA those extra 2 guns are really needed, your saddled up alot longer with a fewer gun package. The longer you are in the fight the more likely the chance of getting ganged comes into play.
I think that is the point he is trying to make ... its the challange !!!
Your such a dweeb !!!
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Originally posted by SlapShot
Your such a dweeb !!!
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hehehe, I know i know :D
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The difference between 4 .50's and 6 .50's isn't really that great. The P-51B is a fun plane to fly with the extra added bonus that people underestimate it.
MiniD
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The difference between 4 .50's and 6 .50's isn't really that great.
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Originally posted by Steve
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What Steve said...^
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B Pony is one of my favorite rides...new tour...Ill just have to see how long I can stick with it :)
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Steve... have you flown the P-51B? If so... how'd you do in it?
4 .50's may not be as good against bombers but it's more than enough against fighters.
MiniD
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The only thing I missed in the 51B was the ammo per gun is deminished vs. the D-pony. 4 guns vs. 6 never really bothered me that much.
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Steve... have you flown the P-51B? If so... how'd you do in it?
The guns of the B have a different feel, for me anyway. IMO, there is a noticeable difference in the gun packages, specifically in snap shots.
I have little trouble focusing my fire in a snap shot and knocking parts off when flying the D. In the B, these snap shots rarely knock a part off...at least for me.
Sure, in tracking shots one can knock a piece off w/ 4 guns quite nicely, with a bit of a longer burst than the 6 gun package.
Again, I just feel that the 4 .50's are poor for quick bursts and snap shots(which I seem to get more often than a nice lead or tracking shot).
This is merely my opinion. The B is a fun plane, and my congrats to those who have better luck w/ the guns of the B than I.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the "B" also only carry 500 lbers. and not 1000 lbers.? That would be a reason to fly the "D" on a Jabo mission, but for just "figgin it", the "B" is fun. I like the looks more of the "B" too.
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50% more bullets from 4 to 6 guns, 33 from 6 to 8.
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i think i'll try the n1k2j for a tour... how's that thing fly?
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P-47-d-11 Is kinda fun to fly.
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like an Osprey
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The B-pony weapon package, like the rest of this aircraft, is more than capable air-to-air.
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never was meant that it isn't more than capable, 2 50s are enough most of the time you're even half-saddled. It was whether 2 guns extra made a difference or not.
What WT said.
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Hmmm ... I'm up for a challenge. Think I'll park the 109 this tour and grab a 110. Great guns, but it's like flying a bus.
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no no, gscholz, better take a 202 :D
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Originally posted by Steve
The guns of the B have a different feel, for me anyway. IMO, there is a noticeable difference in the gun packages, specifically in snap shots.
To me, the difference between 4 and 6 .50s isn't as big a deal when you're saddled up with an enemy fighter as it is when engaging big bombers. Still, I can knock off a wingtip in a single pass with a B stang but I just have to start shooting a little sooner.
The B feels lighter to me than the D and seems to roll and turn a bit better as a result. WEP seems to make a bigger difference in performance in the B than the D, too. There may be a difference in turn radius between the two models but not much of one if there is. There's also a slight advantage in not having the D-stang's "sparkle" beyond icon range - I can stalk a target and close the distance a bit before he knows I'm in a Mustang.
I took a B up on my first flight last night. First I shot down Tabasco's 190D in a rolling turnfight away from the main air channel that started at 20k and ended up around 10k. Then, I entered the flight stream of a Bish base capture effort and shot down Lemonhead's Typhoon and Lasher's 110. As I climbed out I was caught from behind by a LA-7 that had crept up in my B-stang's blindspot. Doh!
Things got a bit hairy after that and I had to take up a Yak9U to try and clear the field, but if the situation had been better I probably would've flown the B-stang again. Its not a bad little airplane.
The 500 lbers on each rack are perfectly capable of killing GVs and town buildings. :) If a heavier load is needed, I'll take a Corsair.
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I have fallen in love with the P-40 this frame...started end of last frame. Maybe it is Mitsu's sounds (much different than most planes), but it is refreshing.
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Spit V so far for me. 2 deaths so far, one was 1 ping ack to radiator, other was 1 ping to main fuel tank. :(
will wrapping my purty 'lil spit in bubblewrap help protect it?
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To me, the difference between 4 and 6 .50s isn't as big a deal when you're saddled up with an enemy fighter
Gofaster, I'm glad you have more success than me w/ the 4 gun package. I try not to spend time saddled up. In a furball, in my pony, if I saddle up to get a kill, it means lost E and time given for someone to saddle up on me.
Doing this could allow an la7 to sneak up in my blind spot. ;)
I've been doing much low fighting last few tours in the pony. Can't get too twisty in a furball in the pony... it's just too inviting a target once it's slow. Nope, for me if I'm saddled up, it means I've made a mistake in not getting the quick kill.
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P51B and D-11 have been my favorites as of late. The WEP goes on for a coniderable amount of time inthe Razorback. Its certainly not a turn fighter, but once fast, it stays fast. Still learning this plane...pretty good chasing buffs. Those 8 50 cals are just *nice*
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As I've pretty much been a bravo pony driver for a good while, I feel I can chime in here. The bravo is a very capable aircraft. It will outturn the delta below 10k, but gives up the edge in speed and climb. Above 14k the bravo eats the delta for lunch in climb and speed. One huge advantage is taking it into a furball with 25% fuel. You can turn with the spits and surprise them to no end as you stay saddled up on them picking them apart.
I've found the 4 gun package has helped me tremendously in picking and choosing my shots. Unfortunately it also leads to a far greater percentage of assists. As for attacking bombers, I tend to focus my fire on the wingtips as they seem to be the most vulnerable spots on the heavies.
If it is jabo work that is required, the bravo doesn't carry the same punch as the delta. I will only take 500 pounders, and leave the bazooka tubes in the hangar. However, the 2 bombs make short work of fuel/ammo/barracks/gvs.
Gofaster, I think you'll enjoy the bravo. It's a great ride and hugely underestimated by most opponents.
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This tour I think I'll concentrate on the Spit series. Also want to improve my 262. To balance things off a bit I plan to land some kills in the Hurr I, IIc this tour. Still likely to fly A6M and the odd 109 I imagine. Perhaps a little more Mosquito, fun go with it last night. Nothin like watchin 10 guys landing kills in Mosquitos after a successfull raid.