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Death of 400-Pound Man Being Investigated
Mon Dec 1,12:21 PM ET Add U.S. National - AP to My Yahoo!
By JOHN NOLAN, Associated Press Writer
CINCINNATI - A 400-pound black man died after being struck repeatedly by police wielding metal nightsticks, and the mayor said Monday a videotape showed that the officers were defending themselves.
Black activists say the death Sunday of Nathaniel Jones, 41, was another example of brutality involving Cincinnati police. The fatal shooting of an unarmed black man by a white police officer in April 2001 prompted three nights of rioting in the city.
"How many of our people have to die before the city decides to do something about it?" said Nathaniel Livingston Jr. of the Coalition for a Just Cincinnati.
The officers who were at the scene Sunday — five whites and one black — were placed on administrative leave, which is policy while investigators examine any police encounter that results in a death.
Sunday's confrontation was videotaped by a camera on a police cruiser. After seeing the video, Mayor Charlie Luken rejected activists' demand that he force police Chief Thomas Streicher Jr. to resign.
"What I saw was a 400-pound man violently attacking a police officer in a manner that put the lives of police officers at risk," Luken said. "While the investigations will continue, there is nothing on those tapes to suggest that the police did anything wrong."
Luken said he agreed with the initial police assessment that the officers who struggled with Jones defended themselves as they were trained to do when attacked.
An employee at a fast-food restaurant called 911 early Sunday to report that a man had passed out on the grass outside. Emergency personnel arrived and reported that the man was awake and "becoming a nuisance," according to police radio transmissions.
The first two officers to arrive, Baron Osterman and James Pike, were shown on the video striking Jones after he was warned to stay back. Jones then lunged at one of the two white officers and knocked him down. The officers kept yelling "put your hands behind your back" as they struggled to handcuff him.
They called for an ambulance when Jones appeared to be in distress. He died within minutes of arriving at University Hospital, Assistant Chief Richard Janke said. The reason for Jones' behavior is not known, Janke said.
Black activist groups staged an economic boycott of Cincinnati after the 2001 shooting of Timothy Thomas, 19, who was wanted on prior charges of fleeing police when he ran from officers. Officer Stephen Roach shot him in a dark alley and was later cleared at trial of criminal charges.
A federal investigation of that shooting, requested by the city, resulted in Cincinnati's April 2002 agreement to tighten policies regarding use of force and to improve handling of citizen complaints against the police.
Last February, a white officer chased and fatally shot a black man who was spotted running from a store that had been broken into, police said. The police, Hamilton County prosecutor and the Citizen Complaint Authority review panel concluded that the shooting was justified because the suspect was beating the officer with his nightstick.
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and Mushmouth was left standing there saying, "That's obee-kaybee":aok
(http://www.80scartoons.net/images/f/fatalbert.jpg)
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When are people gonna learn DON'T mess with the COPS.
Even If you'r right you'r wrong till you get em court!
The dude should have known better and at 400lbs I really can't blame the cops too much.
After all the guys probably had a heart attack.
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I blame Rudy, he was always the instigator.:aok
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Originally posted by Mathman
I blame Rudy, he was always the instigator.
LOL:eek:
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What was the guys name in the green that looked like he wore a mop on his head?
Cod does that pic bring back the memories.....
Cod I'm getting old....
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Cod you must really like fish:D
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OK, here we go (hope I can link the pics):
Bill (based on Cosby himself - obviously)
(http://www.tvparty.com/bgifs3/bill2-1.gif)
Russell:
(http://www.tvparty.com/bgifs3/RUSSELL-1.gif)
Rudy:
(http://www.tvparty.com/bgifs3/RUDY-1.gif)
Mushmouth:
(http://www.tvparty.com/bgifs3/mushmouth-1.gif)
Dumb Donald:
(http://www.tvparty.com/bgifs3/donald-1.gif)
Bucky:
(http://www.tvparty.com/bgifs3/BUCKY-1.gif)
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HAY BA ! HAY BA! :rofl
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If he was 400 pounds, he may not have been able to get his hands behind his back.
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Originally posted by gofaster
If he was 400 pounds, he may not have been able to get his hands behind his back.
I bet he could have stood still:aok
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Originally posted by mrblack
I bet he could have stood still:aok
Good point!
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Oh now they are saying he was 350lbs LOL.
i guesses the weighes him after removing the cops foot out his arse.
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That poor fat bastard. All he did was tackle a cop and struggle against white opression. How many murders is it gonna take before someone takes action?!
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Is Jessie there marching yet?
Where's the Rainbow Coalition?
I watched the video...geez, why fight the cops? Just dumb. Dumb dumb dumb....
One less buffet warrior
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Originally posted by LePaul
One less buffet warrior
MUh AWW WAA now you must come clean the coke off my monitor:rofl
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Enjoying the spin the the media is unintentionally putting on it.
Interviews with others cops have invoked some pretty heated responses about how the criminals are treated better than the cops trying to arrested them, etc.
EDIT: Just heard the audio of the tape - the cops repeatedly shout "Stay back!" before attacked and "Put your hands behind your back!" repeatedly while they are trying to subdue him.
Whats Albert saying? "Come here white boy" etc, etc.
Hmm...
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Pilgrams Pride Chicken stock dropped after news of his demise.
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*BAM BAM BAM* Would have been my response.
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everytime i see or hear soemone call COPS ABUSE..i laff my asssss off..
firsat have you guys seen the video..omg what a dum assc fat man... he charged the cops swiningn..lmfao.he deserved the beat down..( oya,,the guy was on PCP!!)...PCP and being 400lbs..hes luky he wasnt shot rigth there..
but..
A few years ago..on a COPS episode they drag this skrawny white guy into jail....he starts to try and make a "break" form inside the detention room.!!...
hes swingin..pushn ect to get out of the room....there is 4 cops in there...
well the cops.."restrain" himm..basically bringing him down..and the knee on the back of the head...
by this time..the perp has 4 cops standing on him to stop him from struggln.....
he says,,which is audible..
"I was just kidding"...
LMFAO...
try that one next tiem you start runnen from the cops and get caught...
"I WAS JUST KIDDING"!!!!
Loev
BiGB
xoxo
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"preliminary autopsy results reveal enlarged heart, drugs in system"
Thank God for video tape. Once that guy swings at the officer and takes him to the ground, the gloves are off. 400 LBS coke heads should not try to fight the police.
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Could this be a canidate for the Darwin awards?
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Originally posted by mrblack
Could this be a canidate for the Darwin awards?
I doubt he would have procreated anyway...and if he did the woman would receive the reward for trying to commit to the gene pool.
In other words, NO. :cool:
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Cops are here to serve us. The cops were too weak to wrestle the guy to the ground. That is why they hit him with their sticks. Most cops are a little bit insane anyways.
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Originally posted by davidpt40
Cops are here to serve us. The cops were too weak to wrestle the guy to the ground. That is why they hit him with their sticks. Most cops are a little bit insane anyways.
what a tool.
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I would suspect that based on the enlarged heart and the drugs found in his system he probably suffered from Excited Delirium or a similar condition....
http://www.educationoptions.org/programs/articles/SuddenDeath.htm
Usually occurs when a subject who is extremely drunk or high on drugs (coke etc) violently resists efforts to control him. The subject displays extreme aggression and almost superhuman strength. Once the subject is subdued and restrained he/she goes into cardiac arrest and usually dies in very short order. They think it may be tied into the high levels of adrenalin in the system
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Originally posted by NUKE
what a tool.
Nuke,
davidpt40 can't be a tool. Tools have a function.
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Heh a fat guy died, that's hella funny, tee hee hee.
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Shut up, fatty.
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sob, funked.... i think your shoes are untied..
lazs
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Don't worry everybody - we can all breath a little easier knowing that Jessie Jackson and the NAACP are on the case :rolleyes: - destroying what little credibility they had remaining ...
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Originally posted by davidpt40
Cops are here to serve us. The cops were too weak to wrestle the guy to the ground. That is why they hit him with their sticks. Most cops are a little bit insane anyways.
now thats funny, ever heard the joke about the 400lb gorilla?
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When are the riots going to be?
This is a joke, this guy was a danger to the cops. It sucks he died but it is his own fault.
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(http://death.innomi.com/uploads/japmoney.jpg)
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Last February, a white officer chased and fatally shot a black man who was spotted running from a store that had been broken into, police said. The police, Hamilton County prosecutor and the Citizen Complaint Authority review panel concluded that the shooting was justified because the suspect was beating the officer with his nightstick.
lol, outstanding.
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Anybody have a link to the vid?
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Go to FoxNews.com, they have it. Of course you have to watch a 30 second advert first, but at least you don't have to register or pay for it.
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Great link, hadn't seen the video.
The pigs beat him to death. Was he a murderer or something?
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Sorry, but if the cops tell you to back off and put your hands behind you, you better do it.
Too bad he died, but the video makes it pretty clear that the guy was assaulting that cop.
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I don't think it's too bad at all, good riddance. Be nice if they had a good reason to kill him though other than he lunged at a cop.
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If that hippo had you in a headlock, I bet you'd call that a "good reason" to do whatever it took to get him off of you.
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I don't know why those cops couldn't have let the subject get a whiff of a donut, and then kind of make a trail of donuts on the ground leading to the back door of the cruiser - then when the big guy got to the last donut - whammo - a kick in the butt, a slam of the door, and they got one in the box, ready to go.
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I don't know why those cops couldn't have let the subject get a whiff of a donut, and then kind of make a trail of donuts on the ground leading to the back door of the cruiser
They ate em all allready?
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Originally posted by Creamo
Great link, hadn't seen the video.
The pigs beat him to death. Was he a murderer or something?
Dork
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davidpt40 can't be a tool. Tools have a function.
He has a function-everyone needs something to shake when they are finished urinating.
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I saw the video and I distinctly heard the fat-ass say, "Mmmmmm, cops. The other white meat. Get in me belly!!!"
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I was kinda hoping it was the cops fault and we would get some good riots out of the deal... burn down a few ghettos... at little target practice... what's the harm?
lazs
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All hope is not lost Lazs...after all, it really doesn't matter whether the cops were at fault or not. There was a black man involved and he got the short end of the stick. Err, so to speak. :D
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Originally posted by Creamo
I don't think it's too bad at all, good riddance. Be nice if they had a good reason to kill him though other than he lunged at a cop.
What a TARD! :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Ripper29
I would suspect that based on the enlarged heart and the drugs found in his system he probably suffered from Excited Delirium or a similar condition....
http://www.educationoptions.org/programs/articles/SuddenDeath.htm
Usually occurs when a subject who is extremely drunk or high on drugs (coke etc) violently resists efforts to control him. The subject displays extreme aggression and almost superhuman strength. Once the subject is subdued and restrained he/she goes into cardiac arrest and usually dies in very short order. They think it may be tied into the high levels of adrenalin in the system
Makes sense, since according to the news "Jones was carrying cocaine and three hand-rolled cigarettes that had been dipped in methanol, an ingredient in embalming fluid that gets people high, authorities said."
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well problem is... they allways have the good riots in the cities where all the women have taken away the mens guns. we never get any good riots.
lazs
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Racist bastards!!!...Poor black guy gets beaten to death and all you losers can do is make fun of it...Pathetic!
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we could do more than that but none of the good riots ever happen in our neigborhood. sooo... we have to settle for making fun of loosers who get drugged up and attack people with guns.
lazs
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He's lucky he wasn't just shot. He lived a whole 2-5 minutes more. ;)
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Originally posted by SirLoin
Racist bastards!!!...Poor black guy gets beaten to death and all you losers can do is make fun of it...Pathetic!
Waaaa? I think he beat himself to death with one too many trips to Denny's free buffet.
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@ those who scream "Racism"
It's funny that the black civil leaders only seemed concerned when a black man is killed by a white man. Where the f u c k were they when a black man is killed by another black man (which happens much much more frequently)?
Isn't that racism itself; those black leaders only raising their ire when a WHITE man is involved? I think it's racism.
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Dayton
Cocaine, Not Police Struggle, Caused Death
January 9, 2004
The Montgomery County coroner has released the cause of death for a man who died while in police custody.
WHIO reports the coroner's said Kirkland Smith died from acute cocaine intoxication. He said Smith's death had nothing to do with being restrained by authorities.
In December, Dayton police got into a struggle with Smith after he refused arrest at a home on Whitmore Avenue.
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Well there ya go:eek:
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Coke also killed one of the Righteous Brothers.
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One of the rightious brothers got coked up and attacked armed men and it gave him a heart attack?
lazs
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Originally posted by lazs2
One of the rightious brothers got coked up and attacked armed men and it gave him a heart attack?
lazs
You didn't hear about that?
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I thought they killed the righteous brother because he knew too much about Haliburtons,GWs' and Prince Charles role in the death of St. Diana
:eek: they had to silence him before he ratted them out.
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that's what I thought too.
Still.... where are the riots? Are riots now passe? Perhaps they are waiting for better weather?
lazs