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Title: KI67 Speculation
Post by: hblair on December 07, 2001, 02:47:00 PM
Has anyone found any photos of the Peggy other than this one?

 (http://home.interlink.or.jp/~katoh00/rikgun/ki67/4ju01.jpg)

Anybody got any bombload specs on this girl? How much will she carry? Will it be similar to a JU88 as far as speed? Will it carry as much ordinance? as the JU? Should be fun in scenarios.  :)
Title: KI67 Speculation
Post by: Vermillion on December 07, 2001, 02:51:00 PM
This is quick and dirty from memory, since I'm at work, but....

Its almost 50mph faster than our fastest bomber (B26 = 280ish  Ki67 = 334mph), has a light bomb load, but should have good defensive guns (20mm & 12.7mm MG) and be quite manueverable. It should also be fairly durable, since the Japanese had learned the importance of armor and self sealing tanks by this point.
Title: KI67 Speculation
Post by: Superfly on December 07, 2001, 02:55:00 PM
It can carry 1,764 lbs. (800 kg)of bombs or one torpedo.

It has a 12.7 mm in the nose, left, and right side positions, plus a twin 12.7's in the tail.  The top turret is a 20mm.
Title: KI67 Speculation
Post by: hblair on December 07, 2001, 02:56:00 PM
aahhh

[ 12-07-2001: Message edited by: hblair ]
Title: KI67 Speculation
Post by: Am0n on December 07, 2001, 03:01:00 PM
wow very light load..

Sounds like our new ackstar though with those guns  :)
Title: KI67 Speculation
Post by: hblair on December 07, 2001, 03:22:00 PM
Superfly, how many bombs will it carry?  :)
Title: KI67 Speculation
Post by: gatt on December 07, 2001, 03:45:00 PM
"Without bombs the Ki-67 could easily make loops and vertical turns ... controls smooth up to 600Km/h IAS ..."

From Francillon's book. Good luck you buff hunters  ;)
Title: KI67 Speculation
Post by: Raubvogel on December 07, 2001, 03:52:00 PM
I think the most common load was like 5x250lb bombs, but that's from memory...which isn't very good  :)
Title: KI67 Speculation
Post by: Superfly on December 07, 2001, 04:08:00 PM
15 x 50kg
8 x 100kg
3 x 250kg
1 x 500kg

Are it's possible loadouts.
Title: KI67 Speculation
Post by: Karnak on December 07, 2001, 06:25:00 PM
Ki-67 will be a fast, well defended bomber useful for the suppression of small targets such as AA guns, ammo, fuel, base radar and troops.
Title: KI67 Speculation
Post by: funkedup on December 07, 2001, 06:27:00 PM
Should be nasty against towns and strat targets with lots of buildings.
Title: KI67 Speculation
Post by: Toad on December 07, 2001, 06:37:00 PM
Yes, indeed. A very historical usage, wouldn't you say Funked?

 :D

Just funnin' yas.

You KNOW I don't care what they add!

If you're sitting in a fighter, every thing you see is a target.  :)
Title: KI67 Speculation
Post by: Kieran on December 07, 2001, 06:56:00 PM
The true strengths of the plane may not be able to be exploited, true enough; it is however a potent combat aircraft and a very worthy addition to the Japanese stable.
Title: KI67 Speculation
Post by: Fariz on December 07, 2001, 07:09:00 PM
Hmmm, probably it will be used as a torpedo platform. Those torpedo planes we have now are too easily killed by fleet fighters.

Other than that and ack starring -- almost completely useless.

Fariz
Title: KI67 Speculation
Post by: Citabria on December 07, 2001, 11:38:00 PM
yup its gonna join the tbm3 and ju88 in the seldom used junk a/c pile.

to bad no one realizes how much more use a b24 and b25 would recieve from the players.
Title: KI67 Speculation
Post by: hblair on December 07, 2001, 11:58:00 PM
I have a feeling they'll be used in the Combat Theater and Scenarios.
Title: KI67 Speculation
Post by: Pongo on December 08, 2001, 12:05:00 AM
What an excellent choice for a light perk bomber. with the auto directors for 1 20 and 3 50s for  much of the rear area it will be deadly on interceptors. + the extra speed foiling angles on attacks. wow. you gotta mean it to try to set up a run on one of those babies.
Rarely used my butt. Excellent for gas and dar suppression. Not much of a hanger buster or strat killer but in much more useful for taking down important small targets at a defended field.
I will spend some serios time in that plane.
Title: KI67 Speculation
Post by: pbirmingham on December 08, 2001, 12:58:00 AM
Quote
Originally posted by SUPERFLY:
It can carry 1,764 lbs. (800 kg)of bombs or one torpedo.

It has a 12.7 mm in the nose, left, and right side positions, plus a twin 12.7's in the tail.  The top turret is a 20mm.

BELLY SHOT!!!!
Title: KI67 Speculation
Post by: Darkglam on December 08, 2001, 07:04:00 AM
Rheinmetall MK 108 30MM Cannon. That is my answer... With so many buffs(1.09) I will also need a G6/U4
Title: KI67 Speculation
Post by: Kieran on December 08, 2001, 07:32:00 AM
I don't agree, Citabria. If you thought a B26 was tough to bring down, you ain't seen nuthin' yet. One of these comes over with a head start and it will be gone before you can get there. It was maneuverable enough to be a heavy fighter with a 75mm cannon and 15 rounds (though only about 20 made). It had a much higher ceiling than the B26. Finally, remember there will be four of them at a time, not one. That's four 20mm cannon waiting to steal your 200 perks. We also already know how deadly twin-fifty tailguns are, even on the supposedly soft underbelly of the Lanc.

Finally, I think it only fair to turn away from American stuff for a bit, but if you must have another american bomber I'd much prefer to see the A-20. Fast, maneuverable, decent payload, and ubiquitous (served with virtually every Allied country). Good arena attack bomber, great scenario addition.