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According to one news source, none of the nominees for this years Grammy Awards were traditional musicians. All the "artists" that were nominated were either hip-hop, rap, etc.
The country is doomed.
Despondently, Shuckins
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Country will not die...
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a country boy can survive...
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Originally posted by some shmuck in 1956
According to one news source, none of the nominees for this years Grammy Awards were traditional musicians. All the "artists" that were nominated were either Rock and Roll, Boogie Woogie, or god forbid Blues!!!! etc.
The country is doomed.
Despondently, Oldtimer unwilling to change
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Yes we are doomed as the Grammy Awards is a direct representation of society.:rolleyes:
Homer steals statue award
Bart: Homer, you're stealing a useless piece of junk.
Homer looks down
Homer: Awww, a grammy!?
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Aw...c'mon MT...you can tell ME! Do you really, honestly, in the depths of your soul consider that tripe to be MUSIC? Can you say, with a straight face, that it has had a positive impact on the youth of this country? Have you watched any of the "music" videos produced by these "artists" lately? Does it really bear comparison to early rock and roll?
Are you still able to define these terms?
Base
Vulgar
Sexist
Racist
Pornographic
Without redeeming social value
Come on pard. You're my age. Surely you can remember a better era. I'm as tolerant as the next guy but I can still recognize freakish behavior and trashy music.
I'm available for counseling, free of charge.
Regards, Shuckins
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Originally posted by Shuckins
I'm as tolerant as the next guy but I can still recognize freakish behavior and trashy music.
Like hippies and Donovan?
-Sik
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On a scale of artistic expression rap fits somewhere between belching and farting.
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Sorry those who belch and fart for a living. I did not mean to offend you.
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The stripper thread is over there___> Mietla
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Rap is short for CRAP:aok
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Originally posted by Shuckins
Aw...c'mon MT...you can tell ME! Do you really, honestly, in the depths of your soul consider that tripe to be MUSIC? Can you say, with a straight face, that it has had a positive impact on the youth of this country? Have you watched any of the "music" videos produced by these "artists" lately? Does it really bear comparison to early rock and roll?
Are you still able to define these terms?
Base
Vulgar
Sexist
Racist
Pornographic
Without redeeming social value
Come on pard. You're my age. Surely you can remember a better era. I'm as tolerant as the next guy but I can still recognize freakish behavior and trashy music.
I'm available for counseling, free of charge.
Regards, Shuckins
Are you an Elvis fan by any chance?
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That's what keeps humans on the top of the food chain... adaptation (sp?). Care to sink back down ?
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yep... Still trying to figure out how those potatos can even pretend to enjoy that crap.
I have never heard more rap than it takes to escape from it.. sometimes, in a movie theater it is difficult. In peoples cars you can threaten violence.
lazs
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SECRET SERVICE PLANS INTERVIEW OF EMINEM AFTER 'PRESIDENT DEAD' RAP
The Secret Service is planning to conduct an interview with rapper EMINEM, government sources tell the DRUDGE REPORT, after a new song by the artist appeared on the Internet -- a song that wished the "president dead!"
"We take all matters involving comments made about the death of a sitting president very seriously," a well-placed government source directly involved in the matter said this weekend. "This matter will be investigated fully, and I expect Mr. Mathers will be interviewed directly."
The Secret Service has reviewed a studio quality version of the track WE AS AMERICANS.
"Personally, I found it quite alarming and reckless," the federal official said.
In the song, the rapper declares he would not perform only for cash: "I don't rap for dead presidents," Eminem says. "I'd rather see the president dead. It's never been said, but I set precedents and the standards, and they can't stand it!"
No determination has been made regarding the song and if it constitutes a direct threat against President Bush, the official explained.
A spokesman for INTERSCOPE RECORDS, Eminem's label, claims the cut [which also features the rapper bragging, "Bin Laden is on my ass"] is an "an unfinished song that was either lost or stolen, and there was no determination when, where, how or if it was going to be used."
Hip hop, rap is not music.
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What's traditional music?
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By definition, traditional music is music about a culture, usually handed down from generation to generation, and tells a tale about their culture. Therefore, Rap is defined as traditional music, even though the tradition appears to be that of drugs, Ho's, and killing. It is definately handed down to the next generation, and definately says ALOT about the culture.
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:::shrugs:::
Could you tell me who released our animal instinct?
Got the white man sittin' there tickled pink.
Laughin' at us on the avenue
Bustin' caps at each other after havin' brew
We can't enjoy ourselves
Too busy jealous... Of each other's wealth
Commin' up is just in me
But the Black community is full of envy
Too much back - stabbin'
While I look up the street I see all the japs grabbin'
Every vacant lot in my neighborhood
Build a store, and sell their goods
To the county of sips (?)
You know us po niggas: nappy hair and big lips?
Four or five babies on your crotch
And you expect Uncle Sam to help us out?
We ain't nothin' but porchmonkeys
To the average bigot, redneck honky
You say comin' up is a must
But before we can come up, take a look at US
{Verse Two:}
And all y'all dope - dealers...
Your as bad as the po - lice - cause ya kill us
You got rich when you started slangin' dope
But you ain't built us a supermarket
So we can spend our money with the blacks
Too busy buyin' gold an' Caddilacs
That's what ya doin' with the money that ya raisin'
Exploitin' us like the Caucasians did
For 400 years - I got 400 tears - for 400 peers
Died last year from gang - related crimes
That's why I got gang - related rhymes
But when I do a show ta kick some facts
Us Blacks don't know how ta act
Sometimes I believe the hype, man
We're messin' up ourselves and blame the white man
But don't point the finger you jiggaboo
Take a look at yourself ya dumb nigga you
Pretty soon hip - hop won't be so nice
No Ice Cube, just Vannilla Ice
And yall sit and scream and cus
But there's no one ta blame - but US
{Verse Three:}
US... will always sing the blues
'Cause all we care about is hairstyles and tennis shoes
But if ya step on mine ya pushed a button
"Cause I'll beat you down like it ain't nothin'
Just like a beast
But I'm the first nigga ta holler out {PEACE, BLACK MAN}
I beat my wife and children to a pulp
When I get drunk and smoke dope
Got a bad heart condition
Still eat hog - mogs an' chitlin's
Bet my money on the dice and the horses
Jobless, so I'm a hope for the armed forces
Go to church but they tease us
Wit' a picture of a blue - eyed Jesus
They used to call me Negro
After all this time I'm still bustin up the chiffarobe
No respect and didn't know it
And I'm havin' more babies than I really can afford
In jail 'cause I can't pay the mother
Held back in life because of my color
Now this is just a little summary
Of US, but yall think it's dumb of me
To put a mirror to ya face, but trust
Nobody gives a **** about...
.....
A mass of hands press on the market window
Ghosts of progress
Dressed in slow death
Feeding on hunger
And glaring through the promise
Upon the food that rots slowly in the aisle
A mass of nameless at the oasis
That hides the graves beneath the masters hill
Buried for drinking
The rivers water
While shackled to the line
At the empty well
This is the new sound
Just like the old sound
Just like the noose wound
Over the new ground
This is the new sound
Just like the old sound
Just like the noose wound
Over new ground
Listen to the fascist sing
Take hope here
War is elsewhere
You were chosen
This is god's land
Soon well be free
Of blot and mixture
Seeds planted by our
Forefathers hand
A mass of promises
Begin to rupture
Like the pockets
Of the new world kings
Like swollen stomachs
In Appalachia
Like the priests that **** you
As they whisper holy things
A mass of tears have transformed to stones now
Sharpened on suffering
Woven into slings
Hope lies in the rubble of this rich fortress
Taking today what tomorrow never brings
This is the new sound
Just like the old sound
Just like the noose wound
Over new ground
This is the new sound
Just like the old sound
Just like the noose wound
Over the new ground
Is the new soundJust like the old sound?
Just like the noose wound
Over the new ground
Aint the new sound
Just like the old sound?
Look at the noose now
Over the, over the, over the burning ground
Aint it funny how the factorys doors close
Round the time that the school doors close
Round the time that the doors of the jail cells
Open up to greet you like the reaper
Aint it funny how the factorys doors close
Round the time that the school doors close
Round the time that a hundred thousand jail cells
Open up to greet you like the reaper
Ohhhh
Ohhhh
Oasis
This is no oasis
This is the new sound
Just like the old sound
Just like the noose wound
Over the new ground
This is the new sound
Just like the old sound
Just like the noose wound
Over the new ground
Like ashes in the fall
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You guys all sound like my dad when we had the guts to put Led Zepplin on the car radio.
Or what about..
Down by the banks of the river Charles (aw, that's what's happenin' baby)
That's where you'll find me
Along with lovers, fuggers, and thieves (aw, but they're cool people)
Can anyone place a date on that little number?
Or this one...
You say I must be crazy, 'cos I don't care who I hit, who I hit.
But I know it's me that's hitting out and I'm, I'm not full of **it.
I don't care who I hurt, I don't care who I do wrong.
This is your mess I'm stuck in, I really don't belong.
When I take out my bottle, filled up high with gasoline,
You can tell by the night fires where Rael has been, has been.
More of the same... we are just older.
answers
1. Dirty Water - The Standells 1966
2. Back in NYC - Genesis 1971
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LZ didn't have too many lyrics of killing cops and raping women.
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I don't care what you say, Slayer rocks!
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
LZ didn't have too many lyrics of killing cops and raping women.
You find what you look for.....
Hard to beat LZ... A lot of good rap and hip-hop around too.. Chronic (1992) was and is one of the best rap albums of all time hands down..
Slayer?? They got NUTIN on White Snake man.. Still of the NIGHT!!!! I'll hurt your feelings w/ some White Snake! lol
Winger!!!
Any argument made about modern music HAD to be made in the 80s.. Gawd what an awlful time for music!!!! If we could just delete that decade's music, the world would be a better place.. 8)
k
AoM
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Originally posted by kappa
Any argument made about modern music HAD to be made in the 80s.. Gawd what an awlful time for music!!!! If we could just delete that decade's music, the world would be a better place.. 8)
k
AoM
Agreed. But I still find it tolerable. There are some rap tunes (hip hop, crack music, whatever) that I just cannot tolerate due to the lyrics.
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
LZ didn't have too many lyrics of killing cops and raping women.
Yea, they stuck to the "back door man" and squeezing "my lemon till the juice runs down your leg" stuff.
Neither of the 2 lyrics I posted were from LZ BTW.
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Yea, they stuck to the "back door man" and squeezing "my lemon till the juice runs down your leg" stuff.
Neither of the 2 lyrics I posted were from LZ BTW.
Sex has always been a common theme in muscial lyrics. Now, how you TREAT women, as Ho's, well, that honor belongs to rap. Its funny how political orgs like NOW never spoke out against such lyrics...;)
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Sex has always been a common theme in muscial lyrics. Now, how you TREAT women, as Ho's, well, that honor belongs to rap.
wrong again...
"No time for romantic escape,
When your fluffy heart is ready for rape." - Genesis 1971
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Originally posted by midnight Target
wrong again...
"No time for romantic escape,
When your fluffy heart is ready for rape." - Genesis 1971
Again, put it in the whole context of the song. The Genesis song doesn't support the notion of rape. Rap and Hip hop do.
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Rap exists so people with no musical ability can make money too.
dago
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You need to find other material. Genesis is teh sUCK.
Lyrics are one thing, there have been controversial lyrics before rap. What turns me off is the complete lack of musical talent or creativity. Resampling someone elses music, or talking over a canned beat isn't music. Put it in a different category, like "Spoken word set to music", or "Rhythmic Ranting", but it aint music.
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Lamest thread EVAR.
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Originally posted by Barney Fife
I don't care what you say, Slayer rocks!
:aok
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Originally posted by Shuckins
According to one news source, none of the nominees for this years Grammy Awards were traditional musicians. All the "artists" that were nominated were either hip-hop, rap, etc.
The country is doomed.
Despondently, Shuckins
Your news source is as wrong as your conclusion.
In the General Field, nominees for Album Of The Year include Under Construction by Missy Elliott, Fallen by Evanescence, Speakerboxxx/The Love Below by Outkast, Justified by Justin Timberlake, and Elephant by The White Stripes. Nominees for Record Of The Year include "Crazy In Love" (Beyoncé Featuring Jay-Z), "Where Is The Love?" (Black Eyed Peas and Justin Timberlake), "Clocks" (Coldplay), "Lose Yourself" (Eminem), and "Hey Ya" (Outkast). The Best New Artist nominees are rock group Evanescence, rapper 50 Cent, alt-pop group Fountains Of Wayne, R&B vocalist Heather Headley, and dancehall DJ/artist Sean Paul. Finally, Song Of The Year nominees include songwriters Linda Perry for "Beautiful" (performed by Christina Aguilera), Richard Marx and Luther Vandross for "Dance With My Father," Avril Lavigne and The Matrix (Lauren Christy, Graham Edwards and Scott Spock) for "I'm With You," Jorge Calderón and Warren Zevon for "Keep Me In Your Heart," and Jeff Bass, Marshall Mathers (aka Eminem) and Luis Resto for "Lose Yourself."
http://www.grammy.com/press/press_releases/2003/1204a.aspx
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Originally posted by midnight Target
wrong again...
"No time for romantic escape,
When your fluffy heart is ready for rape." - Genesis 1971
Symbolic, not literal....nice try.
If you're trying to say that todays hip hop or rap is the same as LZ, you wasting your time....the only commonality would be that both genre's are born out of their respective enviroments and time in history.
In the world of words and music, I lean toward the music side as I'm a guitar player of 30 years....musically, rap and hip hop are grossly disqualified...imho of course:)
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MT and Sandman defending Racist music, whats the world coming to?
http://home.att.net/%7Ephosphor/index.html
The Violent Racism of Ice Cube
Imagine a white country-western singer performing lyrics that call on whites to torture and kill blacks, and imagine him rising to fame with backing from major record labels. The image is not believable. If a white singer tried to build a career today by spewing out violently racist lyrics, the outcry would be immediate and overwhelming, with denunciations, pickets, and perhaps even violence at music stores. The double standards of the entertainment industry are such, however, that viciously racist lyrics do become popular when the artist is black.
For the past ten years now, the major music companies have promoted the black rapper Ice Cube who writes or performs lyrics that call for the killing of whites. Released late in the year after the 1992 Los Angeles Riots, The Predator album seethes with a tone of wild empowerment and describes the riots as righteous acts. Death threats are issued at the white police officers who participated in the beating of Rodney King, at the jurors who acquitted the officers, and at whites in general. The title track issues forth:
"Riots ain't nothing but diets for the system. Fighting with the Beast, 'no justice, no peace'. . . Niggas are sick of your white man tricks, with no treating us right. Now it's on, on sight. . . . Farrakhan for president of white America. . . . Put my chrome* to your dome*, watch it bust like a cantaloupe. . . . So who's Ice Cube? I'm a rapper, actor, macker. Got a little problem with the redneck cracker."
The caveat that follows is printed on pamphlets inserted into The Predator CD's: "Ice Cube wishes to acknowledge white America's continued commitment to the silence and oppression of black men. . . . White America needs to thank black people for still talkin' to them 'cause you know what happens when we stop."
Ice Cube fills his lyrics with the beliefs held by members and followers of Nation of Islam, the Chicago-based black group which has mosques in cities across the nation. The group's doctrine was built from racial interpretations of the Koran and the Bible, and it included the book called Message to the Blackman in America in which Elijah Muhammad, the group's founder, proclaimed that whites, or "devils" as they are often referred to in the book, would be annihilated in racial Armageddon. First printed in 1965, Nation of Islam uses the book today as its founding doctrine. Louis Farrakhan, the group's vocally racist leader, has an ability to get millions of blacks to listen to him, as demonstrated in the 1995 Million Man March. Some prominent black leaders such as former NAACP head Ben Chavis show allegiance to Nation of Islam. Many black leaders and ministers such as Jesse Jackson demonstrate a reluctance to denounce the extremist group and instead show a willingness to cooperate with it.
Becoming a follower of Nation of Islam by 1991, Ice Cube begins a 1993 track called "Enemy" with a speech by Khallid Muhammad in which the Nation of Islam officer scoffs at racial integration and refers to whites as the "enemy." Ice Cube continues the track with indoctrinations about racial Armageddon, and he sees a need for blacks to assist Allah in killing off the whites: "When God give the word me herd like the buffalo, through your neighborhood. Watch me blast*, drive up your past, getting that ass." When blacks commit crimes against whites, the rapper commands, they are "putting in work for Master Farad Muhammad," the man of light complexion who, as Elijah Muhammad relates in his book, originally taught him the Nation of Islam doctrine during the 1930's in Detroit, Michigan. Master Farad's real name was W. D. Fard, and he disappeared during the 1930's. Ice Cube advises blacks to be up close to whites when shooting them: "don't bust 'till you see the whites of his eyes, the whites of his skin, the whites of his lies." Nation of Islam professes that 1555 marked the beginning of whites enslaving blacks in America, and that shortly after 400 years, God would free the blacks in racial Armageddon. In the 1960's, Elijah Muhammad gave 1965 as the beginning of the final conflict. On the 1993 "Enemy" track, Ice Cube gave 1995 as the ominous date: "After 1995 not one dev[il] will be alive. . . . 1995, Elijah is alive, Louis Farrakhan, NOI*, Bloods* and CRIPS* and little old me, and we all getting ready for the enemy." Elijah Muhammad would have to have risen from the dead in 1995 for he died in 1975. Nation of Islam's doctrines uphold that Farad Muhammad was Allah in human form and that Elijah Muhammad was a prophet. Ice Cube upholds the following on the "Enemy" track: "I know that Farrakhan is your baby Jesus."
The pamphlets inserted into the 1991 Death Certificate CD, in fact, show a photograph of Ice Cube standing and reading a copy of Nation of Islam's newspaper, The Final Call. The weekly newspaper's title refers to the final warning God gives in order to get blacks to pledge to Nation of Islam doctrines just before the onset of racial Armageddon. In the background of the photograph, looking ominous behind Ice Cube, stand members of Nation of Islam's security force, the so-called Fruit of Islam. On the pamphlet Ice Cube recruits: "The best place for a young black male or female is the Nation of Islam."
Ice Cube puts onto CD's his ideas of violence directed at law enforcement officers and white officers are singled out. In "U Ain't Gonna Take My Life," the rapper threatens: "whoopee sheriff* can't wait to tear him a chunk of a nigga ass. But watch a nigga blast* and get a white nigga fast." He magnifies his personal commitment to his cause by placing himself in the song: "Just because you gotta badge did you think Ice Cube was gonna wave the white flag? Cracker, please." Ice Cube cannot hold in his violently racist fantasies: "when I saw Rodney* it got me so hot it made me wanna go out and pop me a cop." In the song the rapper refers to his own face as "the face of the original man," referring to Nation of Islam's belief that blacks were the original race on earth. On his 1991 track "The Wrong Nigga To **** Wit," the Los Angeles rapper says that he will shoot off the head of former Los Angeles police chief Darryl Gates if the rapper catches him in a traffic jam.
The only common target besides whites and law enforcement officers is black men, in particular and most often those men who are rival rappers or drug dealers. In some songs drug dealers or gangbangers are threatened because the rapper views them as a detriment to predominantly black communities, yet in other songs either the same types are described matter-of-factly without faulting them or the rapper glorifies himself to be a drug dealer. Occasionally the lyrics attempt to persuade listeners that blacks who act too much like whites should be killed. Demeaning references to women are commonly made, and sometimes the rapper voices threats at them. In "You Can't Fade Me" Ice Cube raps that he is thinking about shooting a woman in the head who tried to trap him falsely as the father of her child in order to make him pay for child support. In "Cave *****" white women are degraded and he suggests that blacks should kidnap white women and hold them for ransom. Demeaning synonyms for female are thrown at men also, as are derogatory synonyms for homosexual. Homosexuals, although rarely pointed at by the rapper, are threatened in "Enemy" and in a few lines of "You & Your Heroes," the later being a song that claims black entertainers and athletes are superior to white ones; however, in both songs being white overrides being homosexual as the reason for targeting. Violence directed at white Jews occurs in one phrase of one song called "No Vaseline," and at white Christians it occurs in many phrases of several songs including "When I Get To Heaven."
The proliferation of Ice Cube's violently racist lyrics among millions of consumers is ensured by all major music retailers and by mainly one distributor, the music giant EMI Group PLC of the United Kingdom. The EMI Group's subsidiary, EMI Music Distribution, has manufactured and shipped all along for Priority Records, the company that has marketed over 11 million of the artist's CD's (SoundScan ®). Key titles spread around by the Priority/EMI Group team are AmeriKKKa's Most Wanted (1990), Death Certificate (1991), The Predator (1992), Lethal Injection (1993), Bootlegs & B-Sides (1994), and Planet of da Apes (1994). Time Warner labels Elektra and Eastwest originally handled Guerillas in tha Mist. Viacom's MTV promotes Ice Cube in music videos. If not in stock, consumers can order the titles through any retail store.
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
MT and Sandman defending Racist music, whats the world coming to?
http://home.att.net/%7Ephosphor/index.html
Ice Cube was nominated for a Grammy? Damn, I didn't even know he had a CD out.
-Sik
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
MT and Sandman defending Racist music, whats the world coming to?
You think so? Show me.
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Originally posted by Sikboy
Ice Cube was nominated for a Grammy? -Sik
I don't believe that he was. I don't see his name anywhere in the Grammy article for 2003.
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Originally posted by Sandman_SBM
Your news source is as wrong as your conclusion.
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This isnt holding my attention after 10 pages of stripper fun.
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You're going to have to do better than that, Rip.
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Don't expect what you won't get Sandman.
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country is doomed,,unless they get there head out of there butts and look for talent instead of good looks,,lol,,most country stars now are about the look and no talent,,all the old country stars had ruff looks and some with big bellies like charlie dannels,,,,now days there confused,,,,most of them look like buffed muscle men from wwf<~~its all disco country now
i prefer heavy metal,,but some of the country tunes carried a good beat and great lerics,,,,now days country all sounds the same,,allways singing about there first beer,,helping there dad,,,{on and on},,no edge to it at all anymore,,,country people use to be rebels,,,now there just fake,,alot of the hard core country people are switching music,,new stuff is just too whimpy
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Originally posted by hyena426
country is doomed,,unless they get there head out of there butts and look for talent instead of good looks,,lol,,most country stars now are about the look and no talent,,all the old country stars had ruff looks and some with big bellies like charlie dannels,,,,now days there confused,,,,most of them look like buffed muscle men from wwf<~~its all disco country now
i prefer heavy metal,,but some of the country tunes carried a good beat and great lerics,,,,now days country all sounds the same,,allways singing about there first beer,,helping there dad,,,{on and on},,no edge to it at all anymore,,,country people use to be rebels,,,now there just fake,,alot of the hard core country people are switching music,,new stuff is just too whimpy
Thats why theres a separate catagory, its called "New Country".
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yup,,,new country,,ewwwwwwwwwww,,lol
its all you get to see now,,i bet a classic country video network would do better than cmt right now,,last time i seen ctm,,was some cowboy with girls on harley's dancing nasty{which was great} i was thinking didnt motley crew allready do that?,,lol and shouldnt that be in a rock video? leather jackets and chicks in leather mini's<~~was the only good part of the video,,but it didnt sell me on buying any of there music,,song totaly sucked
slayer does rock and shouldnt even be in the same catagory as white snake,, totaly 2 diffrent styles,,like mixing mustard with ice cream ewwwwwwwwww,,lol lots of 80's tunes are great,,some of my fav metal songs from the 80's and 90's,i like a little of every type of style my self,,i lean more to the heavy stuff,,but i can handle lising to most rap,,classics and country,,,but i cant handle either style of music for too long,,i dont like burning out a good song like the radio does:)
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One word:Rammstein (http://www.rammstein.com/).
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Esthetically, rap has little to commend it. It is mind-numbingly repetitive in beat, which indicates a lack of real musical talent.
So much of it glorifies violence, racism, and contempt for women that I find it surprising to hear MT defending it. Some of rap's lyrics are as reprehensible as anything you would find in Mein Kampf.
There are quite a few black people taking a stand against the hate embodied in rap. Why don't you guys do the same? Or has rape and murder in the name of racial retribution become socially acceptable in your circle.
Regards, Shuckins
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Originally posted by Shuckins
There are quite a few black people taking a stand against the hate embodied in rap. Why don't you guys do the same? Or has rape and murder in the name of racial retribution become socially acceptable in your circle.
See, the problem isn't so much being against violent and hate filled rap, as it is lumping it all together (and includinig hip hop as well) and paiting it with a wide brush that confuses me (especially when we are instructed that there is a difference between "new country" and unspecificed other country.
Not all rap is full of violence and racism, just like many other genre of music, you can find whatever fits your taste, if you enjoy the basic style. I like mind numbing bass lines, provided you have enough volume. I really liked "Straight outta Compton" when it came out (and even to this day). Mostly for the same reason I liked the movie "Scarface" or "Goodfellahs" Not because drugs, and murder were acceptable in my circles, but because there is a part of me (and I'm guessing I'm not alone here) that wants to say "eff the rules, I'm tony ****ing Montana, I'll do whatever the **** I want, and it's going to take 100 well armed men to stop me." These things appeal to the Id I suppose.
Anyhow, the message seemed to get taken to heart (Life ain't nothin but *****es and money) And things went downhill from there.
So, I'm not a fan of Ice Tea's "Cop Killer" or Ice Cube's "Black Korea" Both more than ten years old interesting enough. But to derive from these examples, and admitedly others, that two entire Genre are completely without merit seems a bit odd to me.
-Sik
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Not defending "Rap" so much as attacking all these sweeping generalizations...
ALL Generalizations are always wrong.
:cool:
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Originally posted by midnight Target
ALL Generalizations are always wrong.
including this one.
"I always lie"
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Yeah as bad as some of the rap is, the "new country" stuff (e.g. CMT) is an abomination.
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Not defending "Rap" so much as attacking all these sweeping generalizations...
ALL Generalizations are always wrong.
:cool:
Generally speaking of course.....right? :)
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If the KKK was smart they woulda been behind the whole rap thing..
still... no matter who is behind it... I could use a good riot.
lazs