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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Hans on December 09, 1999, 06:35:00 AM
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Is it me or does that prop look too small?
And since I have your attention I would like to see carrier aircraft fold their wings when the engine is off. I know, I know. Its not real usefull, but if I don't ask now before things get locked down I doubt it will ever get implemented.
Please?
Hans.
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Be careful what you wish for (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
There you are at 20k when someone sneaks up on your 6, shoots out your engine, and your wings immediately fold up (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Can you say "glide like a brick"? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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C.O. Phoenix Squadron
www.users.bigpond.com/afinlayson/index.htm
'feel the heat .......'
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When somebody shoots your engine through your 6, you probably would not care if your wings fold... (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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the prop has been fixed for the next release.
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Nathan "NATEDOG" Mathieu
Art Director
HiTech Creations
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The "retracted" tail wheel assembly is visible "through" the fuselage at certain angles too. Didja catch that one?
(http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
--jedi
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HTC;
Jedi Quote ---
The "retracted" tail wheel assembly is visible "through" the fuselage at certain angles too. Didja catch that one?
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Notice the same thing on the 190.
Mino
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add the 17 to the tail wheel list
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Air power is a thunderbolt launched from an egg shell invisibly tethered to a base. - Hoffman Nickerson
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Actually, the Corsair right flap is see-thru, and it does not seem to add much lift either. Or, it has one hell of an overmodelled stall strip. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Lake City
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Since we're on the Corsair. Does anyone think we sit too high in the cockpit?? I know we can use PageDown but then the cross-hairs disappear. The guages are not real visable either. I got to sit in one 6 months ago. It was cool! I remember feeling the need to sit-up if anything! Course the plane was parked and not level.
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157th TFG
Swamp Foxes
Raptor Flight
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The tail wheel thing isn't the only "flipped Normal" problem on the planes. a few parts on the rear fuse on the B17 has reversed normal problems, and the right wing of the F4u, (notice that the aleron can be seen through the wing when in the down position.
I've notice this a lot on a few planes i've flown. but some of this stuff can't be helped right now. It can all be fixed later.
Lets just work on bug fixes and new planes. the fine tuneing can happen later.
Razer
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Ok guys, hate to sound like an anal retentive a-hole, but can you post graphics problems in the Graphics Issues section? That way those such problems don't get over looked in the future. You'll also notice that many of these problems have already been addressed there. Thanks.
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John "SUPERFLY" Guytan - Art Director
HiTech Creations
"The Artist Formerly Known As MONKEY"
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[This message has been edited by SUPERFLY (edited 12-10-1999).]
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Dracon, in contrast to your post I feel the view from the F4U cockpit feels most 'right' in the full up position. Sitting in the actual aircraft I see the nose of the plane the same way I see it in the full up position in AH. Since no one sits on their parachutes anymore it might be hard to judge what the original pilots saw. All of the aircraft I've had the opportunity to sit in have had a seat cushion in place of the parachute.
If I had my choice I'd wish for two seperate forward views so I could have one at normal ride height, and another I could 'hat' to for the bent over gunsight view.
I'll ask Jerry (-zoll-) to chime in on this one since he has daily access to the Corsair. Whadaya think Jer? Is the ride height in the AH F4U comparable in your opinion to the real thing? I could've sworn I had some shots from the cockpit but I have failed to find them.
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~Lt. Jg. Windle~
VF-17 (http://chani.arrakis-ttm.com/warbirds/jollyroger/) The Jolly Rogers 8X
Skychrgr@aol.com
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I have a question about the front view of the AH modeled Spitfire.
(SUPERFLY - Sorry, but the river is flowing and the current is swift! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) )
When I take off, I just can't see much of the runway. I can't see any runway in front and very little to the sides. Even after rotation there is not much change. I pretty much take off by feel (blindly) or distorting the existing front view to obscurity for frontal visibility.
I have learned to watch the ball and ignore the runway. I am not sure if this was the way it is done for real, but it works. I see alot of AH Spits do the left turn takeoff manuver. (I am sure just to do a quick inspection of the hanger on the way up (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) )
Landing, I have the same problem. A very steep descent rate is required or a fairly rapid turn into the runway from the side. (The F4U carrier landing approach method, but AH F4U does not have this problem)
Basically I do a IFR landings, knowing the runway is somwhere under me somewhere. Just hoping to get my AoA and descent rate right for touchdown. When I hit the ground it is almost always a surprize, because I can't see it.
Flying it onto the runway often leaves my speed to high and I just tend to do a touch a go. Heavy stall at touchdown seems best to plant it and keep it planted.
Is this accurate for actual Spitfires?
I should say that I am not the greatest jock in the Simulated Skies. Any help is appreciated.
Thanks in advance. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Merry Christmas Everyone!
Mino
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mino make another forward looking key and set it all the way back and all the way up.
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Tommy (INDIAN) Toon
Cherokee Indian
My Homepage
Where you can find the Key Commands in files for Word6 Wordpad and text mode.
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Hey Mino,
Not sure how familiar you are with the real planes, but the view over the nose is really bad when they are on the ground, nose-high for landing, and not that good when tail high rolling down the runway.
It gets much better when they are planed out in cruise. Then the nose drops a bit, the view from the gets a lot better, and all is right with the world.
Next time at an airshow, watch the taildraggers - they sashay down the taxiway so they can see where they are going by looking to the forward sides. On takeoff, they clear the runway by looking down it before they turn to line up - because you can't see squat when in takeoff position.
This is what led to the crash at Oshkosh this year with the crash on takeoff when the guys in back rolled before the guys in front. They were rolling on a radio call and someone didn't do it right. The guys in back were blind and didn't see the planes in front until they were about to hit them.
On landing, the pilots can get lined up but during the flare they are looking to the forward sides to judge altitude and keep it on the centerline.
We are at a bit of a disadvantage not having head-mounted tracking displays to better mimick what real pilots see and experience but what you describe is pretty darn close to how it really is.
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Indian;
cc Thanks!
I have tried that, but I was repulsed by the appearance. It just does not look like a cockpit all swished up like that (More like an X-Wing fighter (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) ).
Takes me out of the game and I don't like that. I prefer to deal with the bad frontal view, as a short coming (weakness) of the airplane.
Morbid;
Thank you also, for your reply.
I kind of had the idea pretty much as you describe, in general terms.
I was just wondering more as a comparison of the Spit to other planes of the era.
Comparing all the cockpit views presented in AH, IMO the Spit is by far the worst. As an example; the c.205 I believe had a "HUGE" (Roman (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) ) nose, but has a better forward view than the Spit. The F4U I thought should have the poorest visibilty in this respect, doesn't.
I really have no clue what this view should be and AH is pretty darn accurate at such things, from what I can tell. Coupled with the fact that I am about the only one to <Deep Breath> Whine about it. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
My question should have been stated more clearly.
Is the forward view depicted for the Spit in AH accurate refering to what the actual pilot would see in the real plane?
Again, thanks in advance.
Merry Christmas Everyone!
Mino
[This message has been edited by Minotaur (edited 12-11-1999).]
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Dracon, to add to Windle's post, In the real aircraft the seat hight is also adjustable. Are you sure that the seat you sat in was not all the way down?
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Drdoyo, Lt. J.G.
VF-17 the Jolly Rogers
8X
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Mino:
Spit had the most horrible front view on the ground of any of the Allied planes. the burp and turn was vital among spit pilots lining up their runway landing. And everyone who wrote of a transition between Hurricanes and spit's commented upon how bad it was. The spit needed almost a 20' swish to see what was ahead of it. Hence they had to burp the throttle and swish the tail to line up.
Interestingly though I saw on that link someone posted about the captured me-109 that the spit pilots considered the 109 WORSE than the spit. I think our 109 as it is currently is FAR too generous in it's spacious console and over the nose views. I feel more luxurios than I do in the Mustang. Does NOT feel like the cramped little cockipt it really was.
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