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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Steve on December 09, 2003, 12:07:01 AM
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There simply cannot be enough threads about this, as long as it is anywhere in the rotation. To save myself further aggravation, I will simply not play when the pizza map is on. It sucks in so many different ways.
I am grateful to those who spent their personal time to attempt a design of a new map... thank you. However, HT and those who designed it: I implore you to acknowedge that the pizza map is not suitable for the MA.... and get rid of it. I'm sure your next map, should there be one, will be fantastic due to what you learned in designing the first one.
To those who say: Well, design a map, Steve. I say: I own 3 chevy's but hate the way the new Impalas look. Chevy didn't ask me to design a new car.
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I vote to swap quiche for pizza.
And before you say anything, yes there are strat targets for those so inclined to kamikaze into (an air spawn just above them would simplify things, though) outside the FFA rim, leaving the bowl portion free to have unlimited side switching, making it possible to avoid the ******* perk multiplier bonis.
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Stop whining, Steve! I've been on the last two nights and I had an excellent time. Last night Rooks were duking with Knights from 230 to 224. Hehe, they had the usual LA7/N1K wall up, but we kept smashing it down. In order to even things, I did not take a max überity Easymode™ plane along to the party; I flew a 109G2 all night. A good challenge - for me anyway. When the long green bardar began to attract the score padders, I left to do some V-base defence work - usually PNZR or field gun, or look for a CV that's under attack to try and save it. Lots of variety on the pizza map. AND... Nowhere near the amount of hording you see on other maps I could mention, and no 25% fuel porks.
I couldn't vulch at 224 - and wouldn't want to anyway because of GVs on the base, so I flew low at speed clearing sixes. The 109G planes are wonderful for following cons up. When they start to lose E, the 109G2 would just keep on going. The other kills I got were often where the guy's A.D.D. had cut in because of not having pulled his trigger for 30 seconds.
Seems like most map whiners want maps on which they can gain an advantage very quickly without having to work for it.
Do not get rid of pizza just because of threads like this. A popup poll asking people to name their favourite map is the only fair way.
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MORE FURBALL
LESS DRONING
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Furball is such a small part of online play that people that engage in the practice (to the exclusion of all else) should be ignored altogether. Fortunately, the twelve hours most of these guys put into flying have about as much affect on the game as a Chinese Fire Alarm has on a blind date.
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:rofl
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Originally posted by beet1e
Stop whining
:rofl If you were to take your own advice Beetle you would be speechless.
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As members of the AH community we would be shirking our duty to not bring out a "pizza map sux" thread at least on a weekly basis...
The sad part is that it could be fixed so easily... Fester could fix it in an afternoons free time I bet.
As proof that pizza sux (for the new guys)....
both metavoss and beetle like it!
lazs
Public Relations Officer for the BK's
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nothing wrong with the pizza map, as long as there is at least 150 players. Other wise its difficult to find a decent theatre.
I usually use this time as practice for my bomb dropping. (milkrun).
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Originally posted by MetaTron
Furball is such a small part of online play that people that engage in the practice (to the exclusion of all else) should be ignored altogether. Fortunately, the twelve hours most of these guys put into flying have about as much affect on the game as a Chinese Fire Alarm has on a blind date.
omg what a joke! am i reading this right?? is this dolt saying that furballing is of no matter in AH?? He cant be saying this!?!?! If so dude, what do you think folks did before bombs were introduced?? What do you think this ENTIRE game was founded on?? Which came first in this game, the bomber or fighter???? Before bombs, online players flew around merely hurling fowl language at one another....
Furballers are the 'core' of the game.... its 'what' the game was built around... Next time you think furballers are of no matter, let me know... I'll bring a few muppets w/ me and in 12mins will debunk your entire 12hr auguement... 8)
non-furballers are the 'secondary' crowd HTC has attempted to attract with the additions of bombs, strat, and the likes... The core has always been fighers..............
I usually have the ability to kill on any map, pizza too... but the PIZZA map BLOWS! too far to fly, too few bases...... I think my biggest problem w/ the map is it's color... change it to green or some other not-so-bright color and I think I would shutup about
it... I dont care about the alts as the P38 dominates at any alt.. 8)
k
AoM
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Kap....remember who you are talkin to here. Voss has a limited skillset...bombers, GV's and ship guns are his domain. A fighter usually requires one to actually fight, although I'm sure he has found a way castrate those as well.
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lol Rude.. I didnt realize.. its ok though, I had subway for lunch.. 8)
k
AoM
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Ahhh, so meta is voss. That explains a few things. Oh, and the pizza map most definitely DOES suck.
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If you dolts managed to put as much time into the MA as you do the BBS you would know I don't have trouble finding fights. The last time I checked the game involved six categories and fighter was only one. It doesnt matter how the game started out it is a work in progress. Stop living in the past.
Feel free to conduct an online poll as to the removal of AKDessert. I know for a fact you would be outvoted. Since it rolled in the fights have been common and easy to find. So what if some of it has been gv related. If you dont like it go back to your easybake oven!
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Originally posted by Rude
Kap....remember who you are talkin to here. Voss has a limited skillset...bombers, GV's and ship guns are his domain. A fighter usually requires one to actually fight, although I'm sure he has found a way castrate those as well.
Oh brother.
I fly both fighters and bombers. I dont recall the bomber folks castrating the fighter guys. Yet, when I'm buffing, due to the successful whines of Lazs, my bomber has been made much more ineffective.
Per the map...I like the fact there are some high fields for the buffs to have a altitude head start. I have been having fun sinking fleets in the Lanc...like the poor knits who thought having 2 fleets veer into each other was a safe move...2 CVs sunk in one pass :p
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Gosh you're awesome LePaul.
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I know for a fact you would be outvoted.
Really? Fact?
Please, tell me about your extensive research that establishes this as fact.
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Stop whining, Steve!.....
Beet1e, I appreciate your input but your anecdotal experiences cannot change mine. As you like to post films to support your position, I could post films of vast empty airspace as I vainly try to find a fight. Sure there are exceptions, mayhap this is of which you speak. As a rule for me, I have great difficulty finding a fight w/ any regularity.
It's very consistent: I'll up a fighter and head for the biggest enemy darbar(almost always a friendly base under attack). As I head toward the base under attack, other friendlies do so as well.
Arrive at base, sometimes after all the attackers are dead, sometimes I manage a kill or two. Attackers all die, some even by air to air combat. The attacking horde then realizes said base is now defended and ups somewhere else to try to blow up buildings at another, undefended, base. I see the dar bar pop up a few sectors away and the chase is on again.
I'm sure that every county's horde does the same thing, including rooks.(my country)
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Originally posted by MetaTron
If you dolts managed to put as much time into the MA as you do the BBS you would know I don't have trouble finding fights. The last time I checked the game involved six categories and fighter was only one. It doesnt matter how the game started out it is a work in progress. Stop living in the past.
Feel free to conduct an online poll as to the removal of AKDessert. I know for a fact you would be outvoted. Since it rolled in the fights have been common and easy to find. So what if some of it has been gv related. If you dont like it go back to your easkybake oven!
Spawn Camping = Easy Bake Oven
BTW...define fights for us please.
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Geesh, never seen so much whining over a map. Like if Steve doesn't fly during the Pizza map it'll hurt us all. Dweeb, learn how to use the map instead of expecting the map to work for you.
Here's a hint for you Pizza Map cry babies...Try zooming the map in as far as possible...pick a route deep within the canyons and take a formation of Lancs to an enemy base staying in the canyons until the last minute. Then pop up and see how much damage you can do before returning home through the canyons.
Bet you even whine about flying at nite too..
Word of advice: Get over it or find a new game to play... your consistant whining gets annoying.
AOL Keyword: STFU
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my 2 cents.
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Kap....remember who you are talkin to here. Voss has a limited skillset...bombers, GV's and ship guns are his domain. A fighter usually requires one to actually fight, although I'm sure he has found a way castrate those as well.
Give Metatron some slack. He is obviously a guy that thinks the scoreboard is the sole indicator of skill/ success. I saw this in some of his past posts. His methods are quite simple: If he thinks he might somehow encounter a fight, he presses the "attack" button instead of "fighter". If he is going to fly like a complete puss, he selects "fighter". He can then crow on the BBS about how some folks are jealous of his "success". This poor, misguided lad doesn't know that we are all aware of this ruse.
He is like Topgunz in thinking that spawn-camping a tiger is skillful.
Once Topgunz said after being called a spawncamper for the umpteenth time: "None of those kills were closer than 2.0"
LMAO
As if the entire community isn't aware that you can zero in a spawn point at 50 yards or 5000. These kinds of individuals have no sense of what skill is.
Too bad too, Metatron might very well have the potential to actually be a dangerous foe... like the rest of us, he'll probably never know.
As far as I know, I've only run into Metatron once, and I discovered this quite by accident. I got bounced by a high 51 while enroute to a fight. After a couple of passes at me, the 51 left for easier pickins. Later as I watched the film for a reason that currently eluudes me, I saw this brief encounter.. it was Metatron.
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take a formation of Lancs to an enemy base
AWmac, some of us do not enjoy dropping bombs on static targets. I'm glad you have fun doing this.
I don't.
As for your several insults directed toward me for posting my opinion...
:rolleyes:
If it makes you feel manly, feel free to fire off some more at me.
P.S. What is your ingame cpid? To be so deragatory we must have a history... or is that your typical MO?
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Steve feel free to substitute bombers with fighters in canyon runs. AWMac was my cpid as a Bish and now it's MacMAW as a Knit. BTW not all that was said was directly aimed at you, it was more or less directed to all the other "Stevelikes" out there that whine feverishly about their lack of skills.
Seems like you're not having fun anymore and no one has provided you with fun to continue flying... are you leaving AH soon? :rolleyes:
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wow AWmac... awesome fun! fly low in lancs and pop up at the last minute and bomb the toolsheds at an undefended field!
And to think we all thought the pizza map was boring!
lazs
Public Relations Officer for the BK's
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Laz of course we could spend the evening trying to sink CV's with B17s....over and over and over again. :rofl
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Mac, I don't like the pizza map it's true. OTOH I haven't gone down the road of calling people who enjoy buffing, or GVing, or gunning, any names really. It's fine w/ me that these people derive enjoyment out of the game in a different manner than I.
The sole exception here for me is the imbalance on how easy it is to pork fuel compared to how difficult it is to repair it. My opinion is that this is more a "rules" issue than a "people" issue.
As a person who prefers to find nice big fights(bigger the better) I simply do not enjoy the pizza map.
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correction...
undefended toolsheds and undefended boats.
lazs
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Not a problem Steve... there was once a time that I couldn't stand the Pizza Map until I tried to make it fun. Some maps are fun and then some maps you have to make it fun. What I did was choose the deep in the canyon runs as a tool in making it a lil more fun and challenging. Did the run a few times with 6 or 7 othe fighters... turned out to be a blast. And no Laz not just blowing away toolsheds Dweebster. :rofl
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LOL Much like the "Undefended Boat" that took you and your B17 formation out last night huh Laz? :rofl
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Although I can't stand th e Pizza map, I don't think it is entirely this map or any other maps fault.
It's the players. The players would prefer to fly around with a whole bunch of their teammates and attack the terrain objects.
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Amen Furious
Ya hit that nail right on the head! :aok
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Furious... dead on... it's what I reference in one of my posts on this very thread! The pizza map is the "enabler" to this horde mentality.
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I disagree Furiouse.
Move the bases closer together then this map would be tolerable. Flying over a sector or better to find a fight just plain sucks.
Strat people can still hit strat and if they really need to up from a base and fly 10 mins to do it they can up from a base farther away from thier target. The guys that need to up from such a far base to hide in the stratosphere still can, and finally the people that want to up get to the action quick, kill everyone and RTB can do it without a 10 min break before and after the fight.
I would love to see more people boycott this abortion untill they fix it. See you all in the CT *).
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I used to like the map when I first started the game, however, that has since changed. I am with Kappa 100% as far as changing the color, I was 400 off of someone the other night and the only thing I could make out was his bright red tag above him.
This map is like flying on Mars or something. Gynormous hills and amazingly deep crevices, and no signs of life to be found at most times :)
As far as the distance between bases, I think its needed in this map, especially with 12k bases. You need those couple of sectors to get to a useable altitude.
Honestly though in my opinion this map is all about offense, pick a base with a close vehicle spawn, get about 10-15 guys together after 10 p.m. CST and start rolling. If someone starts getting in your way, don't hang around, just go elsewhere... You could take an entire island in a few hours :p The downside is that it gets majorly boring after the first couple bases.
--Howitzer
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Bigger maps are not a solution to gangbangs.
The only thing that more bases and distance between them accomplish is a longer ride to the fight and more open space betwene the 4 fields currently involved.
As much as I do hate Pizza, I think that alot of the blame falls on the community for demanding these new/bigger maps.
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Voss, I can do strat work no problem, except it PUTS ME TO SLEEP.
wooptidoo! I shut down radar for what's already a desolate map.. stopped short a good opportunity to see an epic-sized fight.. if porking was used when necessary to stop rampant steamrolling, it'd be no problem, but it seems some players think any nearly even confrontation is already intolerable, and all it takes is one, maybe two; system flawed imo.
There's better 'big' maps, so it'd be just as well to put a tiny furball map, with bombing and porking and statistical and suiciding amenities on the side, maybe put tons of ack to make it truly perilous.
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Originally posted by AWMac
Geesh, never seen so much whining over a map. Like if Steve doesn't fly during the Pizza map it'll hurt us all. Dweeb, learn how to use the map instead of expecting the map to work for you.
Here's a hint for you Pizza Map cry babies...Try zooming the map in as far as possible...pick a route deep within the canyons and take a formation of Lancs to an enemy base staying in the canyons until the last minute. Then pop up and see how much damage you can do before returning home through the canyons.
Bet you even whine about flying at nite too..
Word of advice: Get over it or find a new game to play... your consistant whining gets annoying.
AOL Keyword: STFU
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my 2 cents.
ROFL! Muhahahaha!! :rofl
Steve, sorry you are unhappy on pizza. I think of those long(er) flights to bases as an insurance against hordes/gangbangs/opportunist LA7 cherrypickers who upped from the base next door. Yes I could post more film of A-to-A combat from the last two evenings, but I've already posted plenty.
I don't think you should campaign for the withdrawal of maps you don't like. Look at it this way: I have to put up with the Children's maps, and the QWW/Cherrypickers' Paradise map two weeks out of every five, and you have to put up with Pizza and Big Isles two weeks out of every five. We are EVEN. Trinity is a sort of go-between.
For people to rant against maps they personally do not like puts themselves into the "Me First" category of selfish a-holes.
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awmac... you have me confused with some imposter. I don't believe yu will find me skillfully guiding a group of b17's with my mouse to kill a CV group.... defended or not.
lazs
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Cmon Laz,
The truth is out, your a Closet Strat guy. lol
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Originally posted by lazs2
awmac... you have me confused with some imposter. I don't believe yu will find me skillfully guiding a group of b17's with my mouse to kill a CV group.... defended or not.
lazs
I think I can hear hell freezing over....
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Look the only problem I have with Pizza map is that It was made by a squad.
And I feel It has no buisness in the MA.
I am paying HTC not AK.
ALL MA maps sholud be made by HTC staff.
just my 2cents.
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What does it matter who made the map?
I don't get it?
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Black you must work for Microsoft lol.
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Trinity and Big Isles have both demonstrated that maps dont have to be as bad as Pizza to be big. Pizza is just wrong. The sad thing is that it is so huge that it must have taken for ever to make a map that is so wrong.
And its no good for strat either.
Its just really no good.
And night is no good either but thats a different thread.
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It dont matter who made the map
What matters is the map sucks.
Its a large gangbang suicide dweebs wetdream of a map.
Well maybe who made it does influence that.
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And 10's of Thousands of the Worlds smallest violins begin to play in the background.......:rofl :rofl :rofl
Whine, whine, whine.......let them eat Pizza! :rofl
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Beet1e quote:
I have film shot over the last two days. What the hell are you talking about? I was hitting 224 with a load of other rooks. Sometimes I was so low to the deck that you can see my shadow.
Beet1e, you just admitted here that you are part of the horde.
You went to an enemy base with little resistance... vulched what you could along with a "load of other rooks".
Edit: I watched the film, the only time you were close to the deck was as you dove down to cherry pick basically helpless, very low E victims. Your post falsely intimates that you spent significant time on the deck. At one point you zoomed from a pick to over 11k!. Also worthy of note: Until you got caught by the pony, there was exactly one plane in the bunch w/ a higher E state than yourself.......low on the deck.. gimme a break. Just because it wasn't in a late war plane doesn't make it any more skillful, Beet1e. I wonder what happened on the rest of that film. did you die, or did the rook numbers overwhelm the hapless nit defenders and a vulch ensue?
Had you and the horde met with significant resistance, you would have melted away and gone after some other undefended local.
You make my point for me.
I would rather find a nice big fight to be part of.... many people feel the same way I do. I know, I know, simply because I don't like the map and voice my opinion, I'm a whiner. Ya, that makes a lot of sense.... anyone with the voice of dissent is a whiner. People that wanted to abolish slavery... they carried on for years to get things changed... whiners!!!!
Then when the black folks wanted equal rights... simple things like the right to vote... they had to voice protest for years... whiners!!!!
Womens sufferage: Whiners!!!
Taxation w/out representation: Whiners!
The jews etal. in the concentation camps: Whiners!!!
No-one should ever rail against the status quo more than once.. if they do, they are whiners!!!
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Beet ... I just watched the film too.
The only reason why you were anywhere near the deck was due to the fact that's where ALL the targets were ... obviously beaten down to that alt by the Rook horde preparing to set up the vulch at that base.
I have to admit that the high deflection shot on the A6M on the deck and the zoom to 11K was really risky and aggresive ... WTG ... :lol
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Originally posted by muckmaw
What does it matter who made the map?
I don't get it?
In a word BIAS
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I'm not a fan of the Pizza map either, but it does have one small redeeming feature. The desert is bright at night and those sneaky NOE field porkin' girly-boys stand out like a sore thumb. Likewise, the GV horde is fully visible too. It's the MA map that glows in the dark. ;)
My regards,
Widewing
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Steve/Slapshot. (and Rude if he's listening)
Let's focus on the facts. It was not a gangbang/horde. At the moment I dived on that first con, there were only 7 rooks present, and 10 knights! The rooks (me) were outnumbered. The knights also had LA7s in abundance, AND P51s, both of which outperform my 109G2. Secondly, in pointing out that I zoomed to 11K, you conveniently overlook that the field itself was at 5K elevation, so that zoom to 11K was only 6K above ground level. I realise that such giddy heights would have your noses bleeding, but let's move on. Why shouldn't I zoom up? Is there something in the Aces High rulebook that forbids me from flying the way I did in the film? What page of the rule book? Where's the rule book?! Perhaps one of you gentlemen would be kind enough to advise me of a better way to fly an energy fighter like the 109G2? I await your films with baited breath, and look forward to your 109G flight tuition. Steve tried the 109 once (E model) but he sucked and gave up.
And lastly, the film was to show two things. 1) There are fights/furballs to be found on Pizza. 2) Of course I'm not in the stratosphere all the time.
But just hold on... Why the inquest into the way I enjoy MY $14.95 worth??? Aren't you the guys who proudly proclaim that in this game, there are choices for all and you can fly how you like? Are you getting testy with me because I wasn't flying *your way*? There's a name for people like that - Gen... Gen...al...mo - damn! can't think of it - ask Mr. Toad. :lol
This is NOT the thread in which I posted the film - you're off topic.
And this is a thread in which the rights and wrongs (assuming there were any) of the pizza map are being discussed. But here you come, turning it into a "our furball flying methodology is the only way to play AH" thread.
But that was not unexpected. I've proved you wrong about there being no fights on the pizza map, and I've proved you wrong about it being a gangbang (we were actually outnumbered 10/7) and I've proved you wrong about me hogging the stratosphere. So now you've lost the argument on THREE counts, the only way you can fight back is to criticise the way I fly my 109G2. Well you can kiss my arse. You're all a bunch of furball-whining A.D.D afflicted dolts. :)
Oh and Steve - if you insist on discussing women's voting rights, the correct spelling is suffrage, not sufferage. Sufferage is what Lazs's girlfriends have to do. ;)
Oh - and one last thing since you asked - I landed 7 kills at the end of that sortie. Is there an AH rule I don't know about that says how this should be done?
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the worse thing about pizza is the colour.
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Beet1e, as I said.. there was only one other plane w/ an E advantage over you, regardless of what alt you were zooming to. He was 8.1 away, btw. It doesn't matter what plane you are cherry picking in, it's all the same.
You made it sound like you spent a good deal of time close to the ground, so close you could see your own shadow... well this is BS, plain and simple.
I'm not getting testy at the way you fly, I took umbrage over the fact that you misrepresented what the film was about... so far every single person that has watched it, called you in this lie.
Again, it's not about how you fly, but about how you lie.
Beet1e Quote:
Steve tried the 109 once (E model) but he sucked and gave up.
I upped it once, killed the attacker(Fw of some sort, don't remember), landed.
Exactly how is that sucking?
Another Beet1e falsehood.
Beet1e quote:
]Secondly, in pointing out that I zoomed to 11K, you conveniently overlook that the field itself was at 5K elevation,
The base was at 4K elevation.
BTW the highest enemy in the area was exactly 2.6 AGL, in a nik
More Beet1e BS
Beet1e quote:
QUOTE]The knights also had LA7s in abundance, AND P51s, both of which outperform my 109G2.[/QUOTE]
Actually there was 1 LA7 in the area, and NO P51's when the fight started.
BTW the LA7 was at 700 AGL. lol
also, the one 51 that got a shot at you upped from the base you were capping, and the only reason he got a shot at you is because of your terrible SA. You dove past him to get a shot on Knife's 6, ignoring the pony as it angled to your 6 as you dove by.
More Beet1e BS
Beet1e quote:
[At the moment I dived on that first con, there were only 7 rooks present, and 10 knights!
You're right Beet1e. Of the 10 nits present, 4 were on the ground, and only 2.. that's right 2 were over 1000 AGL.
You make it sound like you were at some kind of disadvantage, lol.
Also, 2 of the 10 nits were already in GV's... clearly indicative that a vulch was in progress or imminent, so get off your BS slant of what occurred.
This was a vulch or about to be one... tell the truth
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Originally posted by thrila
the worse thing about pizza is the colour.
Totally agree.
How bout change the textures to a nice granite style like in this pic
(http://www.webbied.com/3dtronic/RO/RO_kaukasus42_11.jpg)
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Originally posted by beet1e
Steve/Slapshot. (and Rude if he's listening)
Let's focus on the facts. It was not a gangbang/horde. At the moment I dived on that first con, there were only 7 rooks present, and 10 knights! The rooks (me) were outnumbered. The knights also had LA7s in abundance, AND P51s, both of which outperform my 109G2. Secondly, in pointing out that I zoomed to 11K, you conveniently overlook that the field itself was at 5K elevation, so that zoom to 11K was only 6K above ground level. I realise that such giddy heights would have your noses bleeding, but let's move on. Why shouldn't I zoom up? Is there something in the Aces High rulebook that forbids me from flying the way I did in the film? What page of the rule book? Where's the rule book?! Perhaps one of you gentlemen would be kind enough to advise me of a better way to fly an energy fighter like the 109G2? I await your films with baited breath, and look forward to your 109G flight tuition. Steve tried the 109 once (E model) but he sucked and gave up.
And lastly, the film was to show two things. 1) There are fights/furballs to be found on Pizza. 2) Of course I'm not in the stratosphere all the time.
But just hold on... Why the inquest into the way I enjoy MY $14.95 worth??? Aren't you the guys who proudly proclaim that in this game, there are choices for all and you can fly how you like? Are you getting testy with me because I wasn't flying *your way*? There's a name for people like that - Gen... Gen...al...mo - damn! can't think of it - ask Mr. Toad. :lol
This is NOT the thread in which I posted the film - you're off topic.
And this is a thread in which the rights and wrongs (assuming there were any) of the pizza map are being discussed. But here you come, turning it into a "our furball flying methodology is the only way to play AH" thread.
But that was not unexpected. I've proved you wrong about there being no fights on the pizza map, and I've proved you wrong about it being a gangbang (we were actually outnumbered 10/7) and I've proved you wrong about me hogging the stratosphere. So now you've lost the argument on THREE counts, the only way you can fight back is to criticise the way I fly my 109G2. Well you can kiss my arse. You're all a bunch of furball-whining A.D.D afflicted dolts. :)
Oh and Steve - if you insist on discussing women's voting rights, the correct spelling is suffrage, not sufferage. Sufferage is what Lazs's girlfriends have to do. ;)
Oh - and one last thing since you asked - I landed 7 kills at the end of that sortie. Is there an AH rule I don't know about that says how this should be done?
The object of my post was to twist your nipples ... looked like it worked ... I use all stainless steel hooks so there will be no infection. Fly the way you want beet ... I REALLY don't care ... just let me fly the way I want ... simple as that.
If that is your visual defintion/understanding of a furball, your really have no clue as to what a true furaball is. Of course your not in the stratosphere all the time, when your not there your in the ionosphere.
I wouldn't fly a 109/190 gutless wonder if it was the last plane available so you won't be getting any tutorials from me.
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LOL Slapshot! I think I like you. :):D Tits are still sore this morning, but I took the hooks out late last night to use on Steve's tits! Looks like that operation was successful too. BTW did you ever see that film with Richard Harris in which he joins an Indian tribe, and has to dance with needles through his tits until the thread breaks? Ouch... :(
109/190 gutless wonder? The G2 is slower than the P51 and LA7, can't turnfight a N1K and is no match for the Spit ix. Given that those are the four plane types I'm most likely to encounter, the 109G2 represents a good challenge. Please give me further advice on thow this plane *should* be flown. And please post more films.
Steve, me old China! (cockney rhyming slang - china plate = mate)
Hehe, Yes the field was at 4K. Just checking to see if you were paying attention! :D Yes I did keep the speed up, and zoom to conserve E. What should I have done on this sortie? Upon arrival at the knit field, seeing that most cons were low, should I have descended to 2K agl, slowed to 200mph and engaged the N1Ks in a turnfight? If you think that's what the 109 is good at, no wonder you sucked in it. I kept the speed high for several reasons - to chase down cons (clearing sixes), to become a difficult target for the GVs, and to get to safety from the acks/GVs after a bounce. But please do tell me how I *should* have flown a 109G2 in this instance.
A film can't lie, but it can't show everything. What it doesn't show was the knit attack on our base - waves of bombers, some escorted. I got about 6 bombers (no film - u will have to check stats) and then we pushed this fight back to their base. Each time I arrived there, I had no idea what I was going to find. Flying alone into a base at 2K is not recommended!
Anyhow, I was impressed that you paid so much attention to my film. :D Yes, the P51 nearly got me. I didn't see it. My first priority was clearing jackm1's 6 so I went for the N1K, but was too late to save jack. I realise you would not have done the same thing yourself, as your primary loyalty is to #1, and to padding your score. But I was pleased with the way the 109 performed in that scissors - that's another thing 109s can be good at. My friends - and they were good friends - looked after the Pony. But I think it's fair to say that the sortie was not without risk.
Anyway, I never claimed to have any skill - indeed, Lazs is at pains to point out that I have none. So your rant is way off topic. :lol The only thing that's missing now is a lecture about women's voting rights, girly men running Europe, and gun control - LOL!
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pizza makes me ill..........:(
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I realise you would not have done the same thing yourself, as your primary loyalty is to #1, and to padding your score.
Beet, if you're gonna take cheap jabs, at least base them in truth. Just the other day I was rtb, low on ammo and dragging to our base. You and another guy helped clear my 6 remember? Then the base came under attack from 2 waves of jabo F4U's.. I stuck around and helped fend off the high bogeys... actually ran out of gas and ended landing a smokng wreck. Wish I knew who the third guy was. This is may be the only time we've crossed paths recently. How quickly you forget, for the sake of insulting someone.
My first priority was clearing jackm1's 6
Was watching the alt/distance panel mostly, if I missed this, I apologize.
Anyway, I never claimed to have any skill
I don't remember ever saying you weren't a skilled pilot.. did take a jab at your SA... but have already covered that.
Beet1e, you keep making reference to me telling you how how to fly. I have repeatedly said and demonstrated that this is n't the issue.. do you actaully read my posts or just assume what is in them?
Toodle-pip
P.S. Staying on topic: Pizza map sux!
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Originally posted by Steve
Just the other day I was rtb, low on ammo and dragging to our base. You and another guy helped clear my 6 remember?
Yes I do remember that. I was in a 109F4. I couldn't easily follow the turn you made, but managed a medium-height yoyo to get on the guy's 6. I didn't kill him, but did get him off your 6.
As for what happened after the 109G2 sortie yesterday, I will tell you the honest truth. I have nothing to gain by being deceitful or dishonest. And you're not wrong. Once we had the base capped, it meant that rooks had a long green bardar in A224 sector. And the vulchers decided to show up. But here's the thing, and I put my hand on my heart as I say this: I saw the green bar, and could see that the next sortie (were there to have been one) would be spent competing for vulches. I don't like hordes and I don't like vulch fests. It was clear that Rooks were in control, and no longer in need of my services. ;) So I went to a CV battle which was unfolding in the NW area of the map.
Pizza map rocks! I always enjoy my time online on the pizza map, so it can't be bad. Later, I did some tank battling with deeka. But my sortie was cut short when I accidentally pressed the thumb button on my stick which is mapped to command ".ef". And the VH was down, so mission abandoned. :( :mad: I have since deallocated that stick button!
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I told you, you won't be getting any tutorials from me.
You asked for a film - I gave you a film and not with the intention of you using it to poke at my CO. That was wrong.
Maybe you are blessed with good eyesight and your tube renders the virtual cloud cover different than what others see. I have a hard time with cloud cover also, and to the best of my knowledge, I have never heard whines about it. Nighttime ... thats a different story.
Keep ... err ... tweak Pizza ... get rid of nighttime !!!!
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Slapshot! "You asked for a film - I gave you a film and not with the intention of you using it to poke at my CO. That was wrong." Yes, I do apologise to both Rude and yourself for that. Ordinarily, I don't post anything on the BBS that has been emailed to me privately. In this instance, anyone (including myself) could have been present when Rude said what he said, and would have been free to quote him. But it's a borderline case. I will give you the benefit of the doubt, and have removed those remarks from my post.
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Ok I'll be serious...
I've watched these threads since I started reading the BBS.
I'll give you my perspective:
(there will be a question for the furballers in the end)
As a spanking new player in the MA I got the impression that base capture was the point of online presence. On the BBS I've learned that some value K/D ratios, some K/H ratios. Some are here JUST to dogfight. Allegedly some come online JUST to bomb toolsheds.
I do most things in the MA, whatever I feel like doing. Sometimes I like to help fellow players run down a field to allow base capture. I vulch every time the opportunity presents itself. Sometimes I like staying alive instead of taking chances, othertimes I don't care. I fly mid-war planes as a rule, but it is possible for me to get irritated enough to up a niki for base defense (but I always repent). I fly furballs when i find them, and they're usually fun.
I like the diversity of it and would be equally bored with flying ONLY furballs or ONLY porking runs.
I don't put myself in any category in the furballers vs. stratplayers arena.
Ok, that's me.
The root to the furballers problem is base capture, i guess. If it wasn't for base capture noone would care to pork anything. It is base capture that make people horde a base to secure its change in ownership.
What I'm getting at is that I wonder if anyone (save a precious few) would enjoy a MA with no base capture? Or bases so hard to capture that most of us can't do it. That would lead to even bigger hordes, and hurt everyones fun. It seems that most of the players online play to capture bases, in one way or the other.
Or does most players furball?
I understand those who exclusively furball when they get angry for having their base levelled.
I just don't see how everybody can be happy.
Is it possible?... I haven't seen any ideas yet that doesn't favour one group over the other.
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Read my thread on the lazs strat idea... you would still need field capture but it would not be the be all to end all that it is now.. fluffs would be needed to kill the cities... those who did not wish to participate in the "winning" could simply fight other players for an hour or so...
lazs
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Do you not see any value in base captures?
How long have you been flying furballs exclusively?
(no hidden intentions in my question)
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my idea would not get rid of base capture... It would still make base capture important. porking bases is what I don't see value in.
in earlier threads I have suggested that I wanted bases closer together with easier capture. but... I have never wanted fields to be porked and useless. they should either be yours and usable or... be the enemies.
lazs
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Bleatle why the devil do you have .ef mapped to your thumb button? I got cannons on mine. Is it so you can sit on a runway in a flak and hit exit so no bomb kills you?
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Originally posted by Pooh21
Bleatle why the devil do you have .ef mapped to your thumb button? I got cannons on mine. Is it so you can sit on a runway in a flak and hit exit so no bomb kills you?
It's a brand new stick, and I'm still experimenting. There are actually FIVE thumb buttons. The one on the left side of the stick is too easy to press inadvertently.
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I understand lazs.
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Originally posted by beet1e
Slapshot! "You asked for a film - I gave you a film and not with the intention of you using it to poke at my CO. That was wrong." Yes, I do apologise to both Rude and yourself for that. Ordinarily, I don't post anything on the BBS that has been emailed to me privately. In this instance, anyone (including myself) could have been present when Rude said what he said, and would have been free to quote him. But it's a borderline case. I will give you the benefit of the doubt, and have removed those remarks from my post.
What did you post? I missed it.
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quote:]Originally posted by me
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I know for a fact you would be outvoted.
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Originally posted by Steve
Really? Fact?
Please, tell me about your extensive research that establishes this as fact.
Okay, maybe not outvoted, if the vote were taken here in general discussion. But online is something else altogether. I think HTC is aware of some numbers trend favoring akdessert or perhaps it would have gone a long time ago. Maybe it's not that tough.
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Meta, My point was: you don't really know for a fact one way or the other.. and neither do I.
If it actually came to an online vote, where each person could only vote once... I'd be willing to abide by the decision of the voters, one way or the other. I will admit that I think the pizza map would be ousted, and thus my dispute over your statement. Hard to guage in the BBS.. and not really fair since there is really only a small portion of the MA population represented here, albeit a very vocal one. :) (vocal on both sides)
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I remember one time my sister got into a cat fight with her two best friends. Sounded a lot like this thread does. Everyone ...Shaddup an fly! :D
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Steve I have seen evidence to indicate a favoritism by players for akdessert or I wouldn't have written what I did and I stand by it. I believe a lot more people prefer to fly on akdessert than not and perhaps it is even the favorite map in rotation.
It would be simple to determine.
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waaaa
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well... how bad can it be really? I mean voss and beetle and jakal all like it.
lazs
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that the pizza map sucks!!!?!?! the color is soooooo blinding! I fly 2 hops and Im off...
HTC......... I want an alternate option with a FULL plane set to fly... Any of the small maps.. make a special one.. dont care... just ANYTHING else OTHER than the loving pizza map.. IT SUCKS..
Thanks for not listening....
k
AoM
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leave pizza to those that want it in the main, and make a side arena for the (apparently) relative few others with a tiny furball map.
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You already have it moot. They call it HTH.
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Originally posted by MetaTron
You already have it moot. They call it HTH.
I've played H2H, it doesnt even come close to an MA furball. I doubt you have tryed either an MA furball or H2H. If you had, you wouldn't make that rediculous statement :D
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you kill me so much in the ma in your hurri, much respect brother at least ya dont chute kill lol and thanks for that
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So beatle ...would you like me to show you experiances with pizza- as to why it's a bad map?
Last time i played pizza i speant 2 -3 hours looking for a fight ... i got maybe 14 kills in tho's 2 -3 hours .. i call that boreing .....
this was at 6am EST usa time ... proably outside your pizza experiance ... THERE WERE NO FIGHTS the population of ah was about 130
I up'd from 5 or so diffrant bases just to have all the enemies run away to another fight after dieing....so i land with 4 kills .. oh boy ....(to me that's just too easy, and milkrunning bases i could do offline)
What you so kindly call the childrens maps at least lets me fight other enemies .... and the strat is something that your time frame to play in can have an effect on... not like on pizza.... where the amount of bases and layout makes captureing moot.
I want fights in MA
You know combat ....
with more than one enemy......
something hard to find on pizza at times.... but proably not the times you play....
that said pizza has many more problems
and beatle you really don't have the experiance to be commenting on this...... you show this by thinking your experiance somehow proves your point..... does my experiance disprove yours?
your mother was wrong ... the world dosesn't revolve around you......
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"have"? you get booted as soon as you shoot down one guy, esp. the host, too many times.
Settings are fubar most of the time, most often ammo, fuel, wind and of course the damned lead computed sight.
Maps suck, generally it's a choice between an MA or SEA full size map, or a real, good FFA map, and some random bogus maps.
The players aren't as good as the MA players, it's two different ways to fly but still mostly less good players there.
The connection almost always blows.
Players are limited to 8, most of the time there's at least 1 afk using up a spot for nothing.
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Manedew! 14 kills in three hours? I could post a film of me getting 13 kills in three sorties in less than one hour just two days ago. Two were three kill sorties - landed one, got killed when I carelessly hit the deck on the way back in the other (oh well, it was dark) and got a 7 kill sortie which ended with me getting shot by a GV (I think). But whenever I post films of the action on Pizza map, folks start accusing me of using a 72" brush, or try to redefine what constitutes a "fight" or a "furball", or turn it into a pissing contest about the way I fly (apparently I'm breaking some AH rules I don't know about) or about personal stats. I even have a film of me in a P47 getting 4 kills within about 10 minutes when there were only 61 people online, so if you can't find fights when there are twice that number online, then maybe you need to read the text buffer a bit more closely. Because if I can do it, anyone can. (I have no skill, you see - and don't mind admitting it)
What I like about pizza is the variety, and the chance to engage in fights without having interlopers come in from 2 minutes away. Sorry if that's not what you like. But QWW will be round soon enough. If you like furballing, you have Children's and QWW. For people like me there's Pizza and Big Isles. We all seem to like Trinity. There's something for everyone in the current map rotation. Why do you have to whine to have your own way all the time? Out of interest, how old are you? Originally posted by Manedew
I want
...because you sound like a two year old...
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lol beetle... since ive got my new joystick (x45) ive had like 10 kills in 2 months :lol
i wonder why i "fly" tanks now :( :mad:
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I like peanut butter.
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Originally posted by aztec
I like peanut butter.
eeeeeeeeewwwwwwwww :eek:
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Ya, I flew 2 trips last night.. Played for about 30mins.. The one undenyable factor was that hte Pizza map STILL sucks...
k
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"...So you've said. "
So you're the only person allowed to repeat themselves ad nauseum?
yowser
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The map's fine, if not harsh on the eyes. I haven't had too many problems finding fights on it this week, but I'm pretty selective. If I log on and don't see anything that seems inviting, I leave and try again later. I don't enjoy wasting my time being bored.
-- Todd/Leviathn
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So, I'll say again.. The color is terrible.. makes the map suck!
k
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I'll say something positive about AKD.
It's not nearly as bad a map as Big Isles.
There.
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Originally posted by Toad
I'll say something positive about AKD.
It's not nearly as bad a map as Big Isles.
There.
omg i agree....... :eek: :aok
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Originally posted by Toad
I'll say something positive about AKD.
It's not nearly as bad a map as Big Isles.
There.
...and guess which map is due up next, a few minutes from now? :D
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Originally posted by beet1e
...and guess which map is due up next, a few minutes from now? :D
O dear.... 8(
k
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another week off i guess
could i only pay for 2 weeks subscription this much? :confused: ;)
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Originally posted by Toad
I'll say something positive about AKD.
It's not nearly as bad a map as Big Isles.
There.
WTG Toad!!!
Nice to see someone used this thead as it was intended ----> to criticize terrible maps.
... Now take it easy on me guys. I didn't say Pizza was bad (as a matter of fact, I have no problem at all with Pizza). However, I CAN"T STAND BIGISLES!!!!!!!!! :rofl
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Guess what's up in the RL MA?
Bird season is still on and the Labs are eager.
Deer season is on and I'm going with my older son.
Even Big Isles offers the occasional good CV fight. When it's over I just log out and check the CT and DA.
This week the CT has a possible good setup worth checking out.
The DA may have some action; you can never tell. It'd be much better with an actual map up in there... say FesterMA.
I've also been fooling around in America's Army with Rude. Although first-person runny-jumpy-fingerslapthekeyboard games aren't really my thing. But hey, the folks in AA come to FIGHT. Gotta enjoy that; it's a nice change from our MA.
Then there's always a bottle of wine and close interpersonal relationships that offer more and better action than the "strateegery" of the MA. ;)
So, while I appreciate your deep concern, I want to put your fears to rest. I'll be quite busy this week.
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Originally posted by Toad
I'll say something positive about AKD.
It's not nearly as bad a map as Big Isles.
There.
The Big Isles map reminds me of the Big Pac arena in Air Warrior (my prefered arena in that now defunct game) kinda makes me feel at home :aok
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Originally posted by beet1e
But whenever I post films of the action on Pizza map, folks start accusing me of using a 72" brush, .........I even have a film of me in a P47 getting 4 kills within about 10 minutes when there were only 61 people online, so if you can't find fights when there are twice that number online, then maybe you need to read the text buffer a bit more closely. Because if I can do it, anyone can. (I have no skill, you see - and don't mind admitting it)
What I like about pizza is the variety, and the chance to engage in fights without having interlopers come in from 2 minutes away. Sorry if that's not what you like. But QWW will be round soon enough. If you like furballing, you have Children's and QWW. For people like me there's Pizza and Big Isles. ......
Why do you have to whine to have your own way all the time? Out of interest, how old are you? ...because you sound like a two year old...
so you missed the point agin .. guess I'll have to be more straight forward.... that went right over you head
you logic is Ill ... you think your experiance equals all experiances
that is what I am saying you twit
and you call me a child takeing things out of context
I say I WANT FIGHTS ........ hummmm..... let me see, who doesn't want fights .. find me someone....
are you stupid or a troll?
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Manedew - whatever.
Originally posted by Mr. Toad
But hey, the folks in AA come to FIGHT. Gotta enjoy that; it's a nice change from our MA.
Hehe, people in the AH-MA refusing to fly *your way* again? I'd put in a complaint to Skuzzy. Folks must be made to conform to your expectations! I know how much you want that Hawaiian vacation. ;)
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beetle I'm not going to insinuate anything or have any bad intentions, but everytime I run into you, you run away, i.e. you leave the fight behind you.
What's the problem with quickly dying if it's in a hardfought furball, odds very much against you?
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Nope, Beet. Just more evidence that you really don't have any idea at all what the discussion is about.
Let 'em fly how they like. I play here if there's action and when there's not, I don't.
I don't log in to be bored to death, I want to be shot out of the sky.
You, on the other hand, seem to have a high tolerance for...... slow action.
Had a fair hour or so on BI last night with some squaddies involving CV action. Then "night" fell, we all logged and I played AA with Rude for several hours. Lots of action, good fun.
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Originally posted by moot
beetle I'm not going to insinuate anything or have any bad intentions, but everytime I run into you, you run away, i.e. you leave the fight behind you.
What's the problem with quickly dying if it's in a hardfought furball, odds very much against you?
I've never seen you. If I'm guilty as charged, how do you know it's me? I must have shot something and then the guy who died told you who I was - is that it? Or do you have film? Post that film, and I'll do my best to answer you. Right now, I don't know what you're talking about. Mr. Toad: "You, on the other hand, seem to have a high tolerance for...... slow action."
I could post film after film, screenshot after screenshot. But what's the use? Your mind is already made up. So when you say "Just more evidence that you really don't have any idea at all what the discussion is about."
the fact is that it's not a discussion at all, is it? Several people besides myself have posted action flicks on pizza, and all that happens is that you guys argue about the definitions of terms like "furball" and "fight", and then Lazs'll come along and start barking about personal stats. You'd make good used car salesmen. You know the kind - they tell you how much your old car is worth without even looking at it - they just look in their little black book, and it tells them all they need to know. You guys know all about how everyone flies - not by viewing the films (you refuse to stoop to that) but by looking at their stats.
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Film? Don't need no stinkin' film!
You forget, for a while we flew for the same country. I saw how you fly and "fight".;)
The style I observed is just more evidence that you really don't have any idea at all what the discussion is about.
Have a nice day! :lol
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Originally posted by Toad
Film? Don't need no stinkin' film!
You forget, for a while we flew for the same country. I saw how you fly and "fight".;)
The style I observed is just more evidence that you really don't have any idea at all what the discussion is about.
Have a nice day! :lol
I remember the first time I saw you. I suffered the double ignominy of being saved by you of all people, flying an LA7 - lol! But you had pressing RL commitments and had to log off before I landed my 5 kills. (You landed none) ;)MiniD was also there.
As for moot, I've never seen him. I know the French guy muut - don't think that's him though.
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Originally posted by beet1e
I remember the first time I saw you. I suffered the double ignominy of being saved by you of all people, flying an LA7 - lol! But you had pressing RL commitments and had to log off before I landed my 5 kills. (You landed none) ;)MiniD was also there.
Toad didn't log , Rude ejected him and stripped him off all his kills for punishment.
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beet1le shot you down.
assist on beet1e.
assist on beet1e.
assist on beet1e.
assist on beet1le.
you shot down beet1e.
Ok, so you will fight 1:1, I remember that once, it was all very stretched out lines, but it's mostly pinkie-toe-in-the-cold-water F4U4 exploiting the CV ack sphere to the max, and the last one was just plain running in 109 from whatever I was in, most likely 202 or D9..
Don't say I'm lying, just be honest, if you please.
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Originally posted by moot
assist on beet1e.
assist on beet1e.
assist on beet1e.
assist on beet1le.
Don't say I'm lying, let's just be honest, if you please.
im sure that thing is broken, all im getting is assists lately :mad:
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Originally posted by moot
Ok, so you will fight 1:1, I remember that once, it was all very stretched out lines, but it's mostly pinkie-toe-in-the-cold-water F4U4 exploiting the CV ack sphere to the max, and the last one was just plain running in 109 from whatever I was in, most likely 202 or D9..
Don't say I'm lying, just be honest, if you please.
I've never seen you online. I've checked back through the last few tours, and there are no stats for any guy called moot. And I have not flown a F4U4 for over a year. And if I was at a CV in a 109, and you came along in a D9, it follows that you upped from a remote field to come in with a huge alt advantage. (D9 and 202 are not available from the CV you see) So if you saw a F4U4 it wasn't me. I say again, post the film, then we'll know what's being talked about.
You've got a bit of a cheek asking me to be honest when, at the very least, you are posting here under a fake ID. :p
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it's a conspiracy, isn't it?
I take for ref. the fights I've had with you, including last few days' and a year ago if that's how long it's been.
I'm not going to post film because it changes not what I say, which is the truth.
Matter of fact, you jumped me, I was almost slow and very low at the hillfoot of a sea base in pizza, with the red swarm upping towards the real furball further halfway across the channel.
I don't know what's the big deal here except you apparently are quite frozen in fear to be found out as a chicken. My impression is you probably are a nice guy, but just need to grow a lot of virtual balls.
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Ah, muut! Content de te voir par ici. :)
Yes I have seen you. The time I remember was you in a 109, and me in a F6F at MY CV. You jumped me not long after I had taken off. I was still very close to the CV and you got acked. We then duelled - you in a F6F, me in a Seafire - you lost. But it took me a while - T&B planes are not my thing.
I've only seen you online once since then, and not in a fight. If you had killed me, or I you, I would have remembered it. But AFAIK our paths have not crossed for several months. So what makes you think it was me?
Last time I was at a CV in a 109 was Friday - 109G2. I will check my own films, if you have none.
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I got the assist on at least one of your G10s.
the point is just that you actually fight instead of drag for eternity, doesn't matter if it's BnZ power passes, but just running for your life when there's not nearly that much danger is pretty odd.
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I'm confused now. I've checked my films for Friday at the CV. I was only up a short time on Friday so it didn't take long. I died in a G2 once when a N1K with 10K alt advantage dived on me - LOL. Got that film if you want it -
Razor. Next sortie I bagged a few I believe, but got killed by a dead-eyed-dick shot from the CV gun. Cracking shot. So then I knew I had to be careful around the CV, and most cons were staying close to it. Yes I did change to a G10.
But there was no muut or moot - but there was a zoot. He tried to HO me but I avoided it and roped him. His attention span expired shortly thereafter and he went for my rook friend, skatter. Just as zoot was zooming up triumphant, I whacked him. A little later, I said "Nice HO attempt" and he called me a shirtlifter! That's what made me think it could have been you. :p But no, I've seen you fly, and you are very good. So then Zoot said our engagement could have gone either way - a 50/50 deal. BS. I saw he was trying to HO me, and he admitted it, and I had made sure he never got guns solution on me. He also said that (according to radar) rooks outnumbered knits 3/1. At that moment, the range panel showed 4 rooks, 3 knits. (Don't know about dar).
The point is, muut/moot, that a lot of people spout BS. Zoot's claim that he could have won his attempted HO was BS. That's why when people try to call me out, I always ask for the film. And I always have the camera rolling so there can be no argument.
Zoot's attempted HO (http://www.zen33071.zen.co.uk/film44zootrope.zip)
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ok nm, do what you want.
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Originally posted by beet1e
Right now, I don't know what you're talking about. I could post film after film, screenshot after screenshot. But what's the use? Your mind is already made up. So when you say the fact is that it's not a discussion at all, is it? Several people besides myself have posted action flicks on pizza, and all that happens is that you guys argue about the definitions of terms like "furball" and "fight", and then Lazs'll come along and start barking about personal stats.
it amazes my how consistintly and often you can miss the point
YOUR EXPERIANCES AND FILMS PROVE NOTHING!
THEY PROVE NOTHING
THEY PROVE NOTHING
get the point beatle .. or you going to keep trolling ....? or do I have to spell out agin why they prove nothing ... ? somone apperently needs to teach you how to think.... others besides me have tried to get this point across to you .. you qoute them! and missed the point entirely .......
"painting things with a broad brush"
this means you think your experiances equal all experiances .. or that your makeing broad genralizations based on little data......
Pizza map sometime has fights .. that does not prove that there are always fights on pizza...
get the point yet?
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Mane - the above few posts were a private exchange between moot/muut (or zoot?) and myself. So butt out.
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and maybe i think you should 'butt out' ...
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Originally posted by beet1e
Mane - the above few posts were a private exchange between moot/muut (or zoot?) and myself. So butt out.
actually no... they were public comms directed at a specific person. YMMV.
you want private, take it to email.
:aok
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So were is this online vote?? When is it scheduled??
O wait... Is HTC still ignoring us??
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Shane. You're right - my mileage did vary. :D
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So, logged on for the first time tonight. Pizza map and full night time. LOL
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Do try the CT. Much better class of pilot in there. I've had my arse paddled every day I've played, but that's OK because I'm learning all the time. How much do you learn from suicide fuel porkers, and ganging hordes of guys flying Eas..... er, the Big 3?
Beet - your effeminate poofter friend. :)
Now, where did I put my knitting...
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Originally posted by beet1e
Do try the CT. Much better class of pilot in there. I've had my arse paddled every day I've played, but that's OK because I'm learning all the time. How much do you learn from suicide fuel porkers, and ganging hordes of guys flying Eas..... er, the Big 3?
Beet - your effeminate poofter friend. :)
Now, where did I put my knitting...
and this is a good thing.
you have much to learn young padawan.
:aok
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Originally posted by Shane
and this is a good thing.
you have much to learn young padawan.
:aok
Ahah! Mr. überity LA5! I'm afraid I'd squelched you long before you killed me (twice) so missed your moment of glory on Ch1. Still, it was short lived because Bizman was there. :)
I learned something - an LA5 is faster than a 109G2. :aok
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so now you'll have to fight, not run. 109's own la5's and yaks, tho'
:D
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Originally posted by Shane
109's own la5's and yaks, tho'
If that IS true, there's still a substantial oustanding mortgage.
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I cant figure our which is more stupid, this thread or the fact that I actually read three pages of it.
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Originally posted by Grits
I cant figure our which is more stupid, this thread or the fact that I actually read three pages of it.
LOL Grits - you're learning fast! ;)
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i cant get that song out of my head when i see metatron and beetle post about good fights...
"I fly smart, to bad I can't get dogfighting figured out!"
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CHANGE THE COULOURS FOR CHRISTSSAKES
There...I said it for the 1000000 th time. Pizza colours are teh s*ck.
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AND MOVE THE potato peelinG FIELDS CLOSER TOGETHER
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boo hoo
pizza rocks!
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Look,
Up there,
It's a bird, it's a plane, it's it's a satelite.
No it's a con that wont come down and fight - Dun dun dun IT's
B17Skull12 lolhrotff :rofl
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i can take a plane up to 25k and cherry pick to my delight all day long.
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I didn't say you can't, I just said that's what you do. Pizza sucks for furballing, all the maps are fine for cherry picking. Thats the difference.
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didnt read any of these posts..
just sayn
PIZZA MAP CAN BE DAM FUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i love the instant action..cacthn the wanna be milk runners capture /porkn bases..
PIZZA MAP IS GOOD
not having radar for 3 days i sbad..
move along...im lo alt in a churri ..waitn for u in ur Lgay7...
Love
BiGB
xoxo
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i can take a plane up to 25k and cherry pick to my delight all day long.
Skull, this isn't fighting. You can go offline and do this all day.
I'm glad you receive delight from climbing to 25k and cherry picking... most people would rather have at least a small chance of having to actually fight. You average a kill every 20 minutes, zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
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The elevations are silly.
The canyons 8k deep LOL come on now.
other than the above the map in bearable.
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Originally posted by Citabria
i cant get that song out of my head when i see metatron and beetle post about good fights...
"I fly smart, to bad I can't get dogfighting figured out!"
:rofl :rofl
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Originally posted by Citabria
"I fly smart, to bad I can't get dogfighting figured out!"
I'm trying, I'm trying!!! It's been a bad tour for the MA. Only about an hour logged until today. Hehe, my F rank jumped about 3000 places in an afternoon - LOL. A week went by with a duff stick, since replaced. Then getting used to the new one, but...
...seems to be making a difference to aiming! No more nose bounce. :cool:
Some good CV battles flying the F4U-1D, dying when the CV was hit by the SB twice. Dweebing out in the 190D9 was fun.
End result: the stupid k/h thing went double digit, for what it's worth.
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Oh do post a film.
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Originally posted by nopoop
Oh do post a film.
Wow, this the only response in 8 hours? I guess everyone must be having "a blast" in the DA. :lol
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Dang, wife has to work tomorrow.... limited "Honey Do" list.
Pizza map up... hopes of a couple of hours of fun in AH dashed.
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Originally posted by Steve
Dang, wife has to work tomorrow.... limited "Honey Do" list.
Pizza map up... hopes of a couple of hours of fun in AH dashed.
i had alittle fun on pizza today....thats only because the squad im in took about 16 knight bases in 3 hours....tomorrow will probably be back to normal though :(
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I think if the pizza map were to be skinned in a different terrain texture many would change their opinions on this map.
I find it very hard for some reason to shoot on this map. My gunnery just goes to crap real fast on this map. It may just be only me having this problem.
A nice green texture would be nice... Well, lets put it this way, anything than what it is currently skinned in would be an improvment IMO.
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I actually like the desert skin on the map, the only good thing about it.
Wish the MA had some winter skinned maps. Those are sweet.
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since HT did what steve wanted with the night thing, can we do the same with pizza?:(