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Title: MJ Innocent... maybe
Post by: midnight Target on December 09, 2003, 11:26:14 AM
The smoking gun has a document showing the investigation the LA Sheriffs did on the exact same case Santa Barbara just arrested him for.

The Document (http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/dcfsmemo2.html)

The Story (http://www.thesmokinggun.com/doc_o_day/doc_o_day.html)

LA found all the accusations to be "unfounded".

hmmmmmmmmmm.
Title: MJ Innocent... maybe
Post by: GRUNHERZ on December 09, 2003, 11:30:32 AM
It's possible, thats why they have trials...
Title: MJ Innocent... maybe
Post by: Pooh21 on December 09, 2003, 11:31:12 AM
who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men?



The Shadow!

but hes an old geezer by now.


that leaves us with The Rack!!!
Title: MJ Innocent... maybe
Post by: Animal on December 09, 2003, 11:39:35 AM
I smell a cash-grab trap set by the kids parents.
Tell me, why would responsible parents allow their kids to have pajama parties in the home of the worlds most suspected pedophile?
Title: MJ Innocent... maybe
Post by: Torque on December 09, 2003, 03:11:58 PM
Why would Mikey with all his money put himself at risk, he should just do what most ped politician do, book a two week trip to Thailand.:aok
Title: MJ Innocent... maybe
Post by: ravells on December 09, 2003, 03:15:44 PM
Probably thought that he was 'Invincible'?

Who knows whether he did what is claimed, but it was damn poor judgment on his part.

Funny thing about Jacko is that he is so weird, you might almost believe his side of the story. I suppose if he was afraid of something like this happening again, he would have CCTV'd the rooms in his house to provide some sort of independent evidence.

Ravs
Title: MJ Innocent... maybe
Post by: midnight Target on December 09, 2003, 03:16:07 PM
"Unfounded" is the strongest possible language the LAPD investigators could use. It effectively says that there is no case.  Very different from "unsubstantiated".
Title: MJ Innocent... maybe
Post by: Sandman on December 09, 2003, 03:19:16 PM
Can we still believe that he's a freak? :)
Title: MJ Innocent... maybe
Post by: midnight Target on December 09, 2003, 03:20:45 PM
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Originally posted by Sandman_SBM
Can we still believe that he's a freak? :)


That is definitely NOT unfounded.
Title: MJ Innocent... maybe
Post by: Mini D on December 09, 2003, 03:28:43 PM
California passed a law in regards to children testifying because of Michael Jackson's last narrow escape.  Since then, parents continue to let their children stay at his house.  I'm miffed.

Michael has also been allowed to adopt children after having a law passed in his name because of buying off a parent to avoid a rape trial.  I'm miffed.

I'm not going to get caught up in this current trial because I don't really care about Michael one way or the other.  I just wonder when those involved are going to realize that Michael should not be left alone with other people's children.

MiniD
Title: MJ Innocent... maybe
Post by: midnight Target on December 09, 2003, 03:30:25 PM
You just KNOW he's guilty. sheesh.
Title: MJ Innocent... maybe
Post by: Mini D on December 09, 2003, 03:34:27 PM
No... and I don't believe I said that MT.  No need to defend him.  I have no idea what the circumstances are in this situation, but I seriously doubt "unfounded" was the term used to describe the first "incident".

Like I said... I'm miffed that people are still leaving their children with him.

MiniD
Title: MJ Innocent... maybe
Post by: LePaul on December 09, 2003, 03:38:47 PM
I was up way too late the other night and skimming thru the news channels, Geraldo was on Fox, showing a clip of LaToya (on his old program) saying that he was a pedophile and made many comments to that degree.

I'll hand Geraldo this, just as someone tries to debunk him, he has witness 1, 2, 3 in the wings.  In this case, LaToya was trying to say her ex husband made her say those things.  Voila, here he is....and boy, he had a lot to say.

Point is, the guys whacked.  I pity his kids.

If the DA is out to get him, all the power to him.  This time, its not them trying to land a big settlement.  Nope, this time, Michael has to try to beat the rap.  He'll make someone a nice beeooch in prison

I really wouldnt be surprised if he tries to plead insanity to some degree and dig up how abused he was.

There's a lot of mud on both sides to toss.
Title: MJ Innocent... maybe
Post by: MrLars on December 09, 2003, 04:06:29 PM
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Originally posted by LePaul


If the DA is out to get him, all the power to him.  This time, its not them trying to land a big settlement.  Nope, this time, Michael has to try to beat the rap.  He'll make someone a nice beeooch in prison


There are some facts about DA Sneddon that should be known.

I'm no fan of MJ but a prosecutor that's lacking in either morals or just plain good judgement is in charge. He's a vindictive salamander that I have 'known' for 15 or so years.

Wha would you think of a DA who would do this?

While returning to the County Courthouse after a lunch with two Sheriffs deputies he finds a van parked in his assigned space...what would you do?

A. Call traffic enforcement and have the vehicle ticketed and towed.

B. See if the vehicle is unlocked and if so, push it out of the space into another.

or..

C. Deflate 3 of the vans tires to the objections of the deputies then try to have the County Sherriff silence the deputies from speaking about it?


Would it make a difference if the van in question had both a handicapped plackard AND a DP license plate?

The lady who owned the van was a parapalegic, wheelchair bound said she couldn't find a space close enough to the courthouse for her to be ontime for an apperance.

Mr Sneddon has been a boil on the butt of Santa Barbara County for too many years, now that he want's to move on he wants to go out with a big case...a self serving self ritious salamander is what he truly is...IMO.

[/i]There's a lot of mud on both sides to toss. [/QUOTE]

Although I know you didn't mean on the DA's side but this statement is still true in regards to DA Sneddon.
Title: MJ Innocent... maybe
Post by: straffo on December 09, 2003, 04:15:28 PM
what is a "DA" and what is a "DP license plate" ?
Title: MJ Innocent... maybe
Post by: MrLars on December 09, 2003, 04:32:53 PM
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Originally posted by straffo
what is a "DA" and what is a "DP license plate" ?


DA = District Attorney

DP = Disabled Person....Ca. license plates for disabled persons have the DP as the first letters on the plate.
Title: MJ Innocent... maybe
Post by: Dago on December 09, 2003, 04:43:11 PM
Some interesting background Lars provided.  Will be interesting to see this one play itself out.

I have been just as suspicious of this one being a cash play as a true pedophile account.

MJ is a strange one, no doubt about it.   But that isn't illegal, and without strange ones, how else could we tell who is normal?

Lets reserve judgement (something it seems many parents are lacking) and see if any evidence is forthcoming either way.


dago
Title: MJ Innocent... maybe
Post by: straffo on December 09, 2003, 04:53:02 PM
Thank MrLMars.
Title: MJ Innocent... maybe
Post by: midnight Target on December 09, 2003, 05:15:18 PM
Well my son can go to MJ's house any time he wants to. And spend the night... in his room... I trust MJ will not do anything.
Title: MJ Innocent... maybe
Post by: Mini D on December 09, 2003, 07:03:04 PM
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Well my son can go to MJ's house any time he wants to. And spend the night... in his room... I trust MJ will not do anything.
Easy to say... and something you might even do to prove a point.

Michael Jackson has a history that helped drive new laws in California.  That means something.  Claim it doesn't all you want... I'll see that claim as a lie.

MiniD
Title: MJ Innocent... maybe
Post by: Lazerus on December 09, 2003, 07:23:56 PM
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Well my son can go to MJ's house any time he wants to. And spend the night... in his room... I trust MJ will not do anything.


That is truly sad.
Title: MJ Innocent... maybe
Post by: Mighty1 on December 10, 2003, 07:21:02 AM
^^^What's really sad is he thinks he can HAVE kids.
I forgot Gays can adopt kids.

I guess if MJ can have them he has a chance.
Title: Re: MJ Innocent... maybe
Post by: Hortlund on December 10, 2003, 07:51:19 AM
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Originally posted by midnight Target

hmmmmmmmmmm.


Wherever there is a lost cause, MT will be there, defending the guilty ones.

Let me guess, you celebrated when OJ was aquitted too?
Title: MJ Innocent... maybe
Post by: Saintaw on December 10, 2003, 09:34:37 AM
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/ah_19_1071070452.jpg)
Title: MJ Innocent... maybe
Post by: midnight Target on December 10, 2003, 10:50:10 AM
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Originally posted by Lazerus
That is truly sad.


Did I mention that my son is 6'2" weighs about 220 and is 25 years old?

Guess I forgot. :D
Title: MJ Innocent... maybe
Post by: midnight Target on December 10, 2003, 10:53:22 AM
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Originally posted by Mighty1
^^^What's really sad is he thinks he can HAVE kids.
I forgot Gays can adopt kids.

I guess if MJ can have them he has a chance.


You're attracted to me aren't you?
Title: Re: Re: MJ Innocent... maybe
Post by: midnight Target on December 10, 2003, 11:34:12 AM
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Originally posted by Hortlund
Wherever there is a lost cause, MT will be there, defending the guilty ones.

Let me guess, you celebrated when OJ was aquitted too?


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