Aces High Bulletin Board
General Forums => Axis vs Allies => Topic started by: scJazz on December 11, 2003, 10:40:31 AM
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Grade: C-
1) Dar range was way too long like it always is in this setup. Along with Base warnings.
2) Far too much of the M3 capture runs. I'd like to see this setup done with M3s enabled only at Vehicle Bases. This way only Airbases with spawns from Vehicle Bases are threatened by M3 captures.
I'd like to see this setup done with late war planes D9s and G10s vs LA7s and Yak-9Us. The plane set might look like this...
Axis
109G6
109G10
110G2
190D9
190A8
JU88
JU87
Allies
LA7
LA5
YAK-9T
YAK-9U
A20
B26
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Grade: A-
Perfect setup for the time period. Dual Air Forces for Axis side was very well done. Map is nicely done.
Maybe up field capture to 15 troops to avoid milk running.
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A :aok
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B+
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C+
(I'm not a hyper-reactionary like some. It works, it ain't broke.) :D
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Originally posted by Mister Fork
Grade: A-
Perfect setup for the time period. Dual Air Forces for Axis side was very well done. Map is nicely done.
Agreed. Like BoB, this one is a classic.
- oldman
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Grade A-
One of the most enjoyable set ups we have had IMHO
Thought it was balanced fairly well, although I would have liked to see more accesibility for the 190's. The La5 seemed to be a pretty dominating plane.
I am at best a "mediocre stick" and was able to kill with almost impunity using the La5. Just think the 190 would have evened the playing field out a little more closely (although I understand why it was limited, given the scenario).
Loved the map.
Cheers, and well done
RTR
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A for plane set, D- for use of the third country to define the battle area. Same plane set, same fight, same field (A1) over and over and over and over and over again. I love this terrain I just wish more of it was used.
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Did I mention A? :aok :aok :aok
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Originally posted by Tuck
Did I mention A? :aok :aok :aok
Vote often. Each one counts seperately. ;)
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A+
great map, great planeset
no fleets or their heat seeking flak
A+
let's run it again soon with US/Ger early/mid planeset
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Love the terrain and the skins! 'A'
This set-up is one of the CT favorites ... why?
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I'll go with A-. Great map, great skins. The La-5 was too difficult a plane for me to handle. :) But nice fights anyway, had a fun week. :D
Regarding the late war planes people have been suggesting for this map (G-10, Dora, La-7), Finland and Russia entered peace in August 1944. So any plane after that is historically incorrect in this map.
[edit] The radar range was way too long for this map. [/edit]
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Someone said that he had Owned people with la-5 . Well he definately didn´t fly when LLv34 was online, because la-5 is pretty easy meat for 109G2, if flown properly.
But I also managed to kill 109´s easily with La5, when 109 pilots messed up.
So in overall this is the best way of playin AH IMHO , if playing Without nmy icons is not an option.
Planes were evenly matched, but as stated earlier, the radar range was too good. Maybe using only sector bars and banning clearer picture?
Also reduced icon range makes gaming more challenging because now you really can disengage/surprise enemies and blend with really good textures.. its pretty hard to notice a plane from above without icons....
Which I count as a positive thing
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B+. Always a good time.
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I might be a bit biased, but I'll give it an A-.
There's this little problem with too easy field captures, and another one with the too far-seeing radars.
Other than that, the map is great. Textures are great, skins are great, planes are great and the clipboard map is great.
I have to agree with Jarski on the icon range thing; here, it's a lot easier to sneak upon unsuspecting people and to escape tight situations due to the great camo paintings that actually don't stick out from the terrain :aok
--wasq
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Jarsci, lets not get things out of context here please.
I didn't say I "owned people with the La5"
Rather, that I was "able to kill with almost impunity" with it.
I had my head handed to me many times, believe you me.
All I meant, was to point out that the La5, in this setup, was able to allow a hamfisted dweeb like me do better than I normally do.
I still think having the 190 more available would have given a little more balance (on an already outstanding setup), and that is just my opinion only and not meant to be a whine.
As far as not being on when LLv34 was flying, I honestly couldn't tell you, but think it is unlikely that I/we didn't cross paths. hmmmm..come to think of it, that may explain all the lead I found in my shorts LOL.
Cheers,
RTR
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Originally posted by skernsk
This set-up is one of the CT favorites ... why?
Well made map with the unique backwoods fields, villages, tank battle towns, skins and textures. Balanced mid-war planeset, where even the Hurri, P40 and FM2 can survive and kill.
I don't like the late war planesets, because the planes simply fly too fast there. Dogfighting is so much more enjoyable with slow planes.
Regarding the dar settings, I agree with the rest of you. Shorter range next time, please!
Camo
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FinRus?
One of best map ever made for CT hands down.
You dont like? I like to see YOUR perfet idea about CT-map.... You allready make some studys, tiles/skins for ur "master map"?....Silence?
Some of you come up with "Lets have a Yak9U!"-agendas. Its just stupid(imho). Lets play "what if" BoB map with -44/45 planes next time...
Nothing enough?
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B+
Love the balance and even a US navy pilot wannabe like myself appreciates flying the 109G2 once in a while :)
JoeBWan
VF-17
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Great map, Great Graphics Wonderful SKins. A+
Plane-set. B- Bf-110 as an equal attack with the Boston...NOT!
Extreamly Fiinish bias on the base capture ordeal settings...i.e. maned ack...etc etc etc etc etc. Poorly maintained F+
Overall C-
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B
Fantastic map!
Downward visibility was more difficult in this map than any other map I have seen in AH. While this frustrated me at times, I also recognize that the downward visibility probably more closely resembled reality than any other map.
Due to real life events, I only flew this set-up last weekend. It probably deserves a better grade, but I just didn’t get enough of a chance to get excited about it.
eskimo
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hey...terrain & skins? do kudos actually need to be given? i thought that was an understood.
some of these terrains, namely the ones created lately, are out-*****ing-standing.
:) :D :aok
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Originally posted by Panzzer
Regarding the late war planes people have been suggesting for this map (G-10, Dora, La-7), Finland and Russia entered peace in August 1944. So any plane after that is historically incorrect in this map.
Assume that peace didn't break out in Aug 44 and lets try it. Remember people we don't have to recreate only battles that occured in WW2. We can in fact examine some of the what-if events. Besides the main reason for doing any of this is flying aircraft in possible matchups rather than the constant Spitfire/LA/N1K/Pony swarm of the MA.
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I give the setup a B+.
I personally hate flying Russian, or RAF planes, but against the 109 190 and FM2 the P-40 was nutin more than a target. So I learned the Hurri IIC as best i could.
Hats off to the Axis squads , they kicked butt this week IMO.