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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: rshubert on December 11, 2003, 11:47:08 AM
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To me furballing is fun, but pointless fun. I don't gain any new knowledge, I don't earn any money, or respect, or whatever. The same can be said for the strat game, by the way. Yet, I enjoy both.
I must admit I enjoy the strat game more, since there is a "reward" for the team when the base is captured, a tangible acheivement. There is strategy, and tactics, and teamwork and team building. Yes, the enemy can take it back. Yes, the map will reset at the end of the week. Yes, yes, blah, blah, blah.
But NONE of that is important--I play this game for enjoyment. The same kind of thing can be said about furballing--the guy doesn't really die, he just comes back again and again.
At the end of the day, all any of us can measure the game by is whether or not we have fun playing it. If we make the game fun for only a few of the players, and not fun for the others, then there will be fewer players, and soon no game to play--remember, HTC is in it for the money, not the experience.
That's why a variety of maps are needed, not just one type. I DETEST festerma, because the closeness of the bases makes the strat game difficult to do--see all the reasons everybody has posted. I like trinity, and akdesert, and mindanao--they are all good strat maps. I play on all of them, and adapt to the different styles needed to succeed.
If you want to be one-dimensional, go for it. But let the rest of us have fun, too.
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Your right you don't get it:rolleyes:
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I agree with Rshubert. And the current mapsets are fairly balanced. Furballers like bases close together - they have Children's and QWW for that. Strat guys like fields further apart - we have Pizza and Big Isles. Trinity seems to be the most popular all round map. So I will not be whining about the Children's/QWW maps, as long as we can keep Pizza/Big Isles as they are. The SFMA children's map is OK too.
Strat is pretty much pointless with fields as close as they are on QWW. What's the point of capturing a field when the enemy has another one they can use just two minutes away? And what chance do the strat guys have of capturing a base without the rapid response LA7 units showing up from next door. Sitting on one field, you can hear the alarm siren of the field next door! Trying for strat missions capture on QWW is asking for trouble - you're just setting yourself up to be cherrypicked. BTW - that wasn't a whine, it was an observation. Whines are where the poster demands changes. ;)
Rshubert - is your game ID Shubie? If so, I saw you the other night. :)
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See Hube,
I wouldn't mind the other maps if we were still able to find a furball on em. The problem is you can't. At least you can still do the strat stuff on fester it's just more of a challenge, something I guess most strat guys don't like.
As for furballing, yes if you can consistently kill many cons in a furball and escape with your hide then you dont have alot to learn. If you find yourself jumping in and getting a kill or two and then get killed you have a lot to learn and just dont know it. The problem is when you dont have a furball to find out.
Inorder to be successfull at furballing, you need exceptional SA and an instinct to know when to break off and or reposition. you need lightning reflexes. The ability to cause an overshoot and kill the guy as he overshoots. You need deadly marksmanship. Too often the missed kill costs you ur prettythang, either by making you stay in too long or putting you in a bad position. There are a ton of things that as you get better at furballing you learn. Again the problem is that furballs are so few now it is hard to learn. In a furball everywhere you turn there is something happening like the thing is on fire. To be effective and RTB is a great thrill.
I can remember furballs inbetween two bases, where there were people from the surface to 5k or so high. It looked like a huge hornets nest. I have not seen one of these in a very long time.
On the other hand I can go blow some strat up anytime I log on.
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Originally posted by:beetle
Strat is pretty much pointless with fields as close as they are on QWW. What's the point of capturing a field when the enemy has another one they can use just two minutes away? And what chance do the strat guys have of capturing a base without the rapid response LA7 units showing up from next door.
Yeah beetle I know having to create new tactics is so horrible. So what your saying is it's too hard for you to make cherry runs on strat so you need the bases farther apart to make it easier. At least you can still hit strat even though its not an easy target like the other maps. So what if they have a base two or three mins away. Your a strat guy go capture that one too. The argument "It's too hard to do" is so lame!
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Originally posted by beet1e
trat is pretty much pointless with fields as close as they are on QWW. What's the point of capturing a field when the enemy has another one they can use just two minutes away?
The way I see it, it just requires a new strat strategy. You can't pork the base to rat**** then wonder why the front can't advance. Not porking the vh and working in close support with ground units will take any series of bases, regardless of how close the next one is.
Somewhere out there I hear MOIL saying"..I told ya so!".lol.
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Originally posted by airbumba
The way I see it, it just requires a new strat strategy. You can't pork the base to rat**** then wonder why the front can't advance. Not porking the vh and working in close support with ground units will take any series of bases, regardless of how close the next one is.
Somewhere out there I hear MOIL saying"..I told ya so!".lol.
There is only one squad that I know of that is devoted to GVs and that is the LTAR ... and thank cod they fly/ride for the knights. These guys are invaluable ... defensively or offensively ... they really know what they are doing. Once they setup defensively, they are dug in like badgers and fight like one too.
Problem here is that I don't know that there are too many other people that would devote their main playing time to GVs, but I have to agree that this strategy would be great to see more of.
<> to Moil and the "Crew"
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Badgers?
Did you say Badgers?
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Originally posted by mars01
So what your saying is
:D :rolleyes: Just gotta love it when they do that.
Send in 5 box tops from Fruit Loops and $3.95 for shipping and handling and you too will receive the Beanie and Cecil smoke and mirrors kit.:D
Me thinks we have a new member to the Lap Sitters Of The BBS Org. Even uses the exact same opening. lmao
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Originally posted by muckmaw
Badgers?
Did you say Badgers?
:rofl
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Ok Jerkle,:D
If thats not what he is saying, then what is he saying?
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Originally posted by mars01
The argument "It's too hard to do" is so lame!
That's exactly how I feel when some of the furballers say they can't/won't defend HQ against attack; can't/won't defend against suicide fuel porker; can't/won't defend a CV against incoming buffs; can't/won't defend a base against an organised incoming mission designed to level the FH; can't won't fly more than five minutes to find a fight; can't/won't resupply HQ after it's been hit; can't/won't organise resupply of a damaged base...
Do you get my drift? Good. I knew you had it in you. :aok
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Once again beetle you muck up the issue.
You can still capture bases, its just harder awwwww.
Furballs dont exist like they used to. We cant furball.
Do you get my drift? Nope. you never do.:aok
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Beatle is a guy whos arugument for pizza's alt is "it lets me get my jug to alt"
aparently because he never has enfough time to grab on a normal map ...
your so full of it,... your contridicting yourself
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And if your whineing about strat .... you don't know how to play the game .... when I used to play start -3 guys and a goon could take a field pretty much every time (that hasn't changed)
sorry, but you apprently just don't have the 'skill' to do it....
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Originally posted by beet1e
That's exactly how I feel when some of the furballers say they can't/won't defend HQ against attack; can't/won't defend against suicide fuel porker; can't/won't defend a CV against incoming buffs; can't/won't defend a base against an organised incoming mission designed to level the FH; can't won't fly more than five minutes to find a fight; can't/won't resupply HQ after it's been hit; can't/won't organise resupply of a damaged base...
Do you get my drift? Good. I knew you had it in you. :aok
I see you have switched over to the 48" broad brush now. Must take two hands to make a swipe ... :D
I don't defend HQ ... I suck in a 163 and can't be bothered to spend all that time climbing out in anything else. Knights have been without dar so many times lately, I have gotten quite use to it.
I do defend against the "porker" on the way to the furball/fight.
I can't defend the CV against inbound buffs, cause I am primarily below 3K fighting the fighters. I do, however, wack with great enjoyment any buff formation that tries to fly NOE to the CV group ... primarily Ju-88s and Ki-s.
I do defend a base against an organised incoming mission designed to level the FH on my way to the furball/fight.
I do fly more than five minutes to find a fight, except on FesterMA. I would rather not have to fly that far, but as things are now adays, I would trade in my eye teeth just to find good fights on a regualr basis.
I do occasionally fly resupply HQ after it's been hit. Still, no dar doesn't bother me, but these flights are a good break sometimes. The C-47 is a wonderful aircraft.
I resupply a damaged base more than you could ever imagine, especially in M3s. Two fold payback there ... points to buy a brand spankin' new el Tigre, and I get the fuel up hopefully before the next wave of fuel porkin dweebs fall from the sky again, so I can fly to the fight.
Do you get my drift ? Step away from the broad brush ... ;)
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Beet1e isnt mucking up the issue hes saying it like it is. Now you guys will follow up with ridiculous innuendos about game style and whine about fuel porking.
This was originally a well thought out thread and the first post is well reasoned and well written.
rshubert
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Originally posted my MetaVoss
Beet1e isnt mucking up the issue hes saying it like it is. Now you guys will follow up with ridiculous innuendos about game style and whine about fuel porking.
No Voss he is not saying it like it is he is crying and mucking up the issue - if you read the posts the one predominant problem is the ability to furball has died. Thats all that has to be said.
The ability for you and beet and the rest to kill strat has not changed, yes on the fester map it is not as easy, Whaaaaaa at least you can still do it.
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Originally posted by mars01
Furballs dont exist like they used to. We cant furball.
My freaking heart bleeds for you. So go to the DA, design your own map, or create your own H2H session. So many choices! I thought that's what you furballers liked. And it surely can't be that difficult? "The argument "It's too hard to do" is so lame!" :lol
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Fun?????
Now I don't get it.
I thought Aces High was a virtual addictive drug that eventually leads to strokes or heart attacks. :(
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Originally posted by: beetl1
My freaking heart bleeds for you. So go to the DA, design your own map, or create your own H2H session.
Well Beetle you finaly have accepted the argument and your reply is "You dont care". Now all your BS makes sense.
I just wish the rest of your cohorts would come to this conclusion too.
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Originally posted by beet1e
My freaking heart bleeds for you. So go to the DA, design your own map, or create your own H2H session. So many choices! I thought that's what you furballers liked. And it surely can't be that difficult? "The argument "It's too hard to do" is so lame!" :lol
I would like to see the post where anyone said ... "It's too hard to do".
I believe that you are the author of this phase while swiping with your broad brush again. Beet ... don't embelish and lay your own moniker on us.
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Originally posted by mars01
Well Beetle you finaly have accepted the argument and your reply is "You dont care". Now all your BS makes sense.
I just wish the rest of your cohorts would come to this conclusion too.
OK, let me spell it out. I've done it once, but that's OK. Twice is hardly overkill. I mean, how many times did I read "Move the fields closer together"? Right now we have maps which err towards furballing - Children's and QWW. And there are maps which are better for the strat players and others who don't like the horde mentality - Pizza and Big Isles spring to mind. And there's Trinity which most people seem to think is OK. So we have balance. I don't particularly like QWW or the Children's maps, but I'm a "give and take" kind of guy. As long as I know that the strat guys can have the maps that they like as part of the 5-week rotation, then I've nothing against you guys enjoying the small maps and QWW when their turn comes around.
But what I find to be a major source of irritation is those people who aren't prepared to accept the game on a give and take basis. It's all "me-me-me-me-me". Not content with having QWW and Children's, they also want to dictate the parameters of the other maps, and change other features to favour their style of gameplay.
Seems that some people can't operate on a give and take basis. They have to have everything all their own way, all the time.
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Originally posted by SlapShot
I would like to see the post where anyone said ... "It's too hard to do".
Mars01 said "The argument "It's too hard to do" is so lame!" in his post at 6:59pm. Better look at it now before he changes it. I was merely paraphrasing him in my reply.Beet ... don't embelish and lay your own moniker on us.
What are you talking about? I wasn't talking to you.
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Originally posted by mars01
Ok Jerkle,:D
If thats not what he is saying, then what is he saying?
Well Uranus.......:D That`s exactly what I mean.
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Can we get back to Badgers?
Apparently there is some double entendre or inuendo associated with Badger that I'm not aware of.
Besides, I think badgers are more intersting thatn this topic.
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Originally posted by Killjoy2
Can we get back to Badgers?
Apparently there is some double entendre or inuendo associated with Badger that I'm not aware of.
Besides, I think badgers are more intersting thatn this topic.
BADGERS!!?? We don't need no steenking BADGERS!!
(SRI...I couldn't resist :D)
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Originally posted by rshubert
If you want to be one-dimensional, go for it. But let the rest of us have fun, too.
You do realize, don't you, that many in this game that come for the fight..... the furball...... have exactly that view.
It's been repeated many, many times and yes, clearly you don't get it.
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Originally posted by NoBaddy
BADGERS!!?? We don't need no steenking BADGERS!!
(SRI...I couldn't resist :D)
badger badger badger badger badger badger badgerrrrrrr!!!!! (http://www.clga.net/files/badger.swf)
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Originally posted by beet1e
My freaking heart bleeds for you.... design your own map,
Well, "we" didn't.. but Fester did.
A fine map for us. Hope he does many more, hope they are the majority of the rotation.
As for the DA, if they'd put FesterMA up in there or the essentially unused Special Events Arena and fix the incredible imbalance between fuel destruction/fuel resupply, I'm sure all the furball types would be in there on a near permanent basis.
Great solution, IMO. Everybody would be happy.
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Ok, what are the honest gives on your side?
Furbllers - I'd like to see one for more than 5 mins, be able to join one and have it last for more than 3 mins. And since they are so short lived the fields being far apart have become a symptom of the furballs disappearing. If the furballs lasted say an hour or more, like they used to, like they have on fester, than (tongue in cheek) I wouldn’t give a crap how long it took to fly from another base, with in reason.
So back before fester, the furball community started saying move the bases closer. Then, you could make it to them in time before it ended. Everyone said just what you guys are saying now. Prove it, make a map or leave the MA.
So thank goodness Fester built the map and I him for creating a place where furballs actually happen on a regular basis and there is still a very cool more demanding strat game, that hasn't even been fully figured out yet. I thought, personally, WTG point proven. I figured maybe now people would have a good formula for building new maps and maybe we would see more furballs, like the old days.
Thats it no takes just give backs.
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ahh you liked that huh jack :lol
So what the hel are you saying :aok
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i like the fuel porkers they make going behide enemy lines in a b17 to hit the fuel factory mean some thing
and not just a way to boost score
by the way i dont bomb anything to boost my score
just to help the bishs win the war:p
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Originally posted by rshubert
To me furballing is fun, but pointless fun. I don't gain any new knowledge, I don't earn any money, or respect, or whatever.
Too bad. The only way to improve your fighting skills is through combat and if you don't learn anything from your fights, maybe fighters aren't just the thing for you.
ack-ack
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Oct....
ROFLMAO&KTC!!!
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Originally posted by Octavius
badger badger badger badger badger badger badgerrrrrrr!!!!! (http://www.clga.net/files/badger.swf)
hahahahah! Badgers on shroooooms!!!:rofl
That's just Scillibisness.
WTG Octavious , funnious maximus!
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See monkey, shoot monkey down.
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Originally posted by mars01
So what the hel are you saying :aok
That swooshing sound you keep hearing over your head is not a low flying 262.
:rofl
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On festers excelent map, the strat girls are saying that with all the people fighting at fields it is too difficult to milkrun.... Now, wasn't it the selfsame strat girls who, upon hearing that porked fuel killed furballing.... said....
"so? just take off one field back."
Now it would seem to me that the people who are most inclined to take off a field back and fly 10 more minutes would be the strat girls... they could use the time to trade quiche recipes. or whatever it is they do on those long flights to a milkrun.
No, it's not that they can't do strat on festers map.... it's that people are having fun at too many places for them to spoil em all. When they pork a field the furballers just move to another location and continue to ignore them.... And that's what they really can't stand... it's not about choice to them it's about forcing people to have to play with them.
lazs
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Well jackprettythang :D
It is obvious you have nothing to say. So CYA:aok
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Originally posted by mars01
Well jackprettythang :D
It is obvious you have nothing to say. So CYA:aok
That`s strange Uranus.... It`s allready been said 3 times. Maybe you just overlooking something . roflmao
But if ya gotta go leave then CYA.
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No Jack,
I’m not leaving, I'm just finished with you. You obviously have nothing interesting to say and you are boring me. So I am done with you.
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Originally posted by lazs2
On festers excelent map, the strat girls are saying that with all the people fighting at fields it is too difficult to milkrun.... Now, wasn't it the selfsame strat girls who, upon hearing that porked fuel killed furballing.... said....
"so? just take off one field back."
Now it would seem to me that the people who are most inclined to take off a field back and fly 10 more minutes would be the strat girls... they could use the time to trade quiche recipes. or whatever it is they do on those long flights to a milkrun.
No, it's not that they can't do strat on festers map.... it's that people are having fun at too many places for them to spoil em all. When they pork a field the furballers just move to another location and continue to ignore them.... And that's what they really can't stand... it's not about choice to them it's about forcing people to have to play with them.
lazs
Festers map is great lazs. My k/d triples from all the milkrunning dweebs from your country. Thanks Fester.
Festers map is great lazs. It seperates the gvs from the attack morons. My k/d triples in GVs because the attack guys cant get to us. Thanks Fester.
Festers map is great lazs. I usually get at least 200 perks every 15minutes I spend in an M3. Thanks Fester.
Festers map is great lazs. I usually bomb the crap out of your strat and triple my bomb score. Thanks Fester.
Festers map is great lazs. I usually increase my gv k/d by a factor of ten in attack mode. Thanks Fester.
On and on....
I still say it sucks.
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Excellent, now Voss and Beet are on board.
Fester rules move the bases on the rest of the maps!!!
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hey voss.. if your doing that well then I guess you like it. I don't really care how you do tho since I am unlikely to ever see you in the arena... you don't go in harms way ever.
So... let's get fester to fix the pizza abortion and the big isles.
lazs
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Originally posted by lazs2
On festers excelent map, the strat girls are saying that with all the people fighting at fields it is too difficult to milkrun.... Now, wasn't it the selfsame strat girls who, upon hearing that porked fuel killed furballing.... said....
"so? just take off one field back."
Now it would seem to me that the people who are most inclined to take off a field back and fly 10 more minutes would be the strat girls... they could use the time to trade quiche recipes. or whatever it is they do on those long flights to a milkrun.
No, it's not that they can't do strat on festers map.... it's that people are having fun at too many places for them to spoil em all. When they pork a field the furballers just move to another location and continue to ignore them.... And that's what they really can't stand... it's not about choice to them it's about forcing people to have to play with them.
lazs
HA. Milkrun. Look at my numbers, lassie--does it look like milkrunning? I get my a** shot off by fighters, by ack, and by flak, more often than I land, unfortunately. That's because I am looking for trouble, not for points or easy kills.
Face it, furboy, while the strat players are working together to accomplish a team goal, you are off in a corner playing with your gameboy. You claim that what you do is more realistic (it ain't) or requires more skill (it doesn't) or is more noble (and it surely isn't).
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Originally posted by Toad
Well, "we" didn't.. but Fester did.
A fine map for us. Hope he does many more, hope they are the majority of the rotation.
As for the DA, if they'd put FesterMA up in there or the essentially unused Special Events Arena and fix the incredible imbalance between fuel destruction/fuel resupply, I'm sure all the furball types would be in there on a near permanent basis.
Great solution, IMO. Everybody would be happy.
Not what you had in mind, but the AHII beta map is Festers map (least I think it is). It has been fun flying in there and while they have only made a few of the aircraft - the P-51 is one they did.
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Where's the map you were gonna make, voss?
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Frankly, lassie, I don't want to play with you. I would just as soon see you go away. Maybe you have missed that implication when I have repeatedly suggested that you go to the DA for your quake (tm) sessions?
Hmm, maybe a little reading comprehension work is in order for you. Many local community colleges offer adult reading classes, you might want to sign up.
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Originally posted by mars01
No Jack,
I’m not leaving, I'm just finished with you. You obviously have nothing interesting to say and you are boring me. So I am done with you.
Carp never put up a decent fight.:D
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The chili-cheese burger from Tommy's is awesome. Too bad it gives you industrial waste dumps.
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WOW Laz you really lit hube's fire. lol.
Don't take it so personally Hube.
Voss's map, I can see it now; 3 fields as far away from each other as they can get. lol (Cheap shot)
Originally posted by: rshubert
I would just as soon see you go away. Maybe you have missed that implication when I have repeatedly suggested that you go to the DA for your quake (tm) sessions?
Dam hube so you are falling in line as the "We have our strat targets who cares about you furball guys" That's too bad. IT's funny furballers don't want the strat guys to go away like the furballs have. We just want an arena that allows furballs to happen along side the strat game. Right now with the fuel porking issue and the distance between fields this is not occuring. It's too bad all you guys care about is YOUR game.
Fester proved that once again we can have fur and strat in the same arena, and so far the only known issue is that it makes the strat game a little more challenging. Its a shame you guys can't see the light.
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The only thing fester proved is that you dolts dont like playing aces high. Now lazs has proven that he doesnt read past the first few lines.
Festers map is a perk potatos dream. I would rather limit that than make it so easy. It mocks the creators intention and should be put off.
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Originally posted by MetaTron
Festers map is a perk potatos dream. I would rather limit that than make it so easy. It mocks the creators intention and should be put off.
heaven forbid some relative noob earns the perks quickly enough to grab a perk ride and too easily shoot you down.
or perhaps there are so many perkies in the skies and on the ground making it simply too dangerous for you to venture out of the ships' guns?
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Lol shane thats the best thing about you all joke.
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Don't argue with voss.
He knows these things 'cuz he designed and coded his own flight sim.
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Ok ... so "Captain Scorpion" is now "Metatron?" Heh .... damn near need a roster to keep up with all his personalities. :lol
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Originally posted by mars01
WOW Laz you really lit hube's fire.
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.............He says beamingly as he sits on his hero`s lap. :rofl
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Originally posted by Furious
Don't argue with voss.
He knows these things 'cuz he designed and coded his own flight sim.
Thats an excellent point furious I suppose that demonstrates perhaps the greatest weakness of festers map.
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Festers map is popular because it doesn't favor strat or furballing.
It makes it more convienient to find a fight....and taking off two
grids away from the target can please the strat guys. Festers
Map should be every other map imho.
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Originally posted by Furious
Where's the map you were gonna make, voss?
I'm sure after he's finished with that flight sim he's making, that is if he's not called out to fly F-16s for the CIA in Iraq or get stung by a red scorpion or brain cancer.
ack-ack
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It's not really that easy to design and execute a map that is a spawn camper's paradise while still allowing cherry-picking with absolutely no risk. Be patient.
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geeze you guys... metavoss can't bother to explain he is very busy. When his new sim comes out he will show us all. Heard hubert and jakal got in on the ground floor for a very small investment.
I think shane pretty much nailed the reason metavoss doesn't like fester map.
The strat guys really are afraid to admit that closer fields makes for more even gameplay. if they did then they would have to admit that they want far fields so that people are forced to play with em
look at huberts "location"... this is the constant theme from the strat girls... "we just want to spoil your fun"... kill the CV kill the fuel.. make em play with you.
They hate festers map because no sooner do they spoil one furball than another breaks out and.... It all happens spo fast that they can't keep up. That is the real problem... if they ignored the furballers and did their normal boring milkrunning... they could "win the war" but... nobody would notice... the only way they get their kicks it to affect a whole bunch of people at once...
lazs
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...and then along came the rooks, and QWW was reset. Awwww, shame. :p Then the Friday came along and the QWW slot was ended with Mindano still up. Sort of makes me think some people didn't like QWW. Wonder why that could be.
:lol
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Originally posted by mars01
Voss's map, I can see it now; 3 fields as far away from each other as they can get.
:D :) :rofl lol
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Festers map has even more bombing opportunities. The closer together bases mean your bomber can line up on multiple fields for primary and secondary targets - perhaps even with one calibration.
(what is QWW?)
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Originally posted by Zanth
(what is QWW?) [/B]
ya!??
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I definately get in now!
PIZZA SUCKS!
All last week I couldn't find a furball let alone more than five cons together. Friday night, new MAP furballs galore. All weekend decent furballs thank god for the carriers on the current map. Otherwise the fields are too far apart as well but it is magnitudes better than pizza.
KILLL potato peelinG PIZZA HTC or move the fields closer. That map SUCKS!
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QWW™ = Quake With Wings. The expression was originally coined by Blue Mako.
Mars01 - you really like Big Isles? Just wondered, because some of the furballers hate it even more than the Pizza map - Mr. Toad, for example.
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Originally posted by mars01
...All weekend decent furballs thank god for the carriers on the current map.... Otherwise the fields are too far apart
Read what he actually said Beet.
I've always said the only real action on BI is CV fights.
And, he points out, as most on my side of the argument do, that BI fields are too far apart.
Ask him whether he'd rather play Fester or BI. :lol
Or maybe ask him to rank the maps from his most favorite down to least.
I'm having a great time. Log in to MA, check for CV fites. If no fites or dark, log into CT, check for fites. If no fites, log into AA and FIGHT.
I'm a happy guy now. It's pretty simple, like I've always said. Do what you enjoy, don't worry about the other guy. If I'm being pushed out of this game by boring strateegerists, well.. there's just other stuff to do that's lots of fun.
Enjoy!
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Yes I did read his post. Given that the fields are more spread out than some people would like, making it your least favourite map, I was puzzled by his comment that it was magnitudes better than pizza.
Nice to see you've developed a nice little IF-THEN-ELSE routine for deciding where to spend your online time. I thought it was this: "I'm having a great time. Log in to MA, check for CV fites. If no fites or dark, log into CT, check for fites. If no fites, log into AA. If no fites, log into the AH BBS and FIGHT.
:lol:D:lol
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Nah, for a fight, your opponents have to be armed. Mostly leaves the BBS out of it.
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Beet,
I like Big Isles compared to the Pizza map. Going from no furballing what so ever on Pizza all week long, to some good furballs on Big Isle really drives home the point - PIZZA SUCKS!. Would I rather fly Fester - a resounding absolutely!! Is it the CVs that make Big Isle decent - Absolutely.
What would make Big Isle better - More ports more CVs. Move the bases closer together on the main lands. If there are no CVs parked off shore of an enemy base then Big Isle sufffers from the same problems as Pizza and is about as much fun, NONE.
Toad hit the nail on the head.