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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Yeager on December 15, 1999, 02:01:00 PM
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Can you guys build additional functionality that would allow the pilot the choice to have the guncamera operate only when the guns are firing.
I believe the real McCoy operated only when the trigger was held in the firing position. This would be neat-o and capture the data in a manner consistent with the real deal. Then again, maybe it wouldnt be so neat...just an idea.
Thanks for reading.
Yeager
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If anyone knows how the gun cam really worked in WWII, I would like to know.
I did see a doc on a Japanese plane and (assuming) american plane, going in to a spiral dive. It did end at the Deck. Litterally at tree top level when the Axis plane was forced to fly level before getting shot down.
Point being, if the gun cam turns on only when the trigger is squeezed.... this allied plane must have had a load to give.
Central
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The trigger was more than likely a two position switch that you squeeze once to first detent to turn on the camera and pull again to fire to second detent to fire guns.
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If that is the case Indian, I must say I definitely dont have that special touch. I find myself too many times in a situation where I'm out of cannons (TM setup dual trigger). Due to the stress and intense train of thought, when dogfighting. :-)
Thanks for the info!
Central
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If it is changed I hope its optional,the current film recorder is great for analyzing your dogfights.
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I know that a lot of early gun cameras took the place of an actual gun. They had to remove one gun and put the camera in its place. A lot of pilots didn't like loosing the extra gun.
To my knowledge most were tied to the trigger.
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I suggested the guncamera/trigger combo earlier, but upon reflection, I'm not sure this is a good idea...as it is now, you can start the camera at the beginning of an engagement, and film all the way through. If it were keyed to trigger as a toggle, then all you would film would be the end game, not any of the maneuvering to the guns solution.
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It would be nice to be able to choose between the two.
Full flight cam for learning and teaching
and an "at the moment" cam so you can just watch and relish the bullets stiking while making a kill later on.
--Westy
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Ok,
Fire burst............ fire burst...............fire 1 sec burst.................burst (scare him into an error)...................burst..... ...........(bogey stalls)2-3 sec burst he explodes.
Now, lets visualize that on a trigger activated camera. Dont think I'd learn much from watching this. Yes? No?
Central
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Suggestion. Based on Nostalgia.
If we do get Gun Cam. Can we have it in back and white.
While colour is more pretty. Blk n white would be more nostalgic and give it a little character.
Perhaps the flickering white streaks as well hehe
SC-Sp00k
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I vote for optional setup.
I have used a replay of a recording to get "snapshots" of the game. I have show them to friends at work and they are amazed at the graphic detail.
I would like to see a conversion utility to make MPEGs or AVIs out of sections of tape if possible. Would be a good for building a "easy to use" training library.
Also would be a nice recruiting tool!
Jarbo
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I don't know how helpful that would be. The film viewer is intended for a much deeper purpose than just a guncam.
I don't know if we could make an MPEG converter, but that would be nice.
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Doug "Pyro" Balmos
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All very good input!
It was not an idea to replace the movie capture but merely to add a small additional
capability. For me at least, seeing just those moments where bullits are flying, and striking hopefully, is what I finally want to see.
It was an idea whos time had come (and passed apparently as well...hehe)
Yeager
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I tend to think that 1 mode of film making is enough. Either "On" or "Off" . The trigger in my plane is on and off....sometimes a lot! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) For the most part, I think the other possible features and benefits will out weigh this request. And I dont want to fill my HD with trigger shots!
KKEN
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Punting, would like to be able to toggle to the trigger and make little B&W MPGs someday.
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It would be great to keep the view used by the pilot (with an override (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) )
So we can learn how,when and where to look durring a fight (I suppose the plane is manned by an Experten (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) no me (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif) )
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Originally posted by Pyro:
I don't know if we could make an MPEG converter, but that would be nice.
How about a frame/screenshot dump?
Its fairly easy to compile MPEGs. What I wish we could have is the ability to record each frame to disk. Sort of like a rendering-package - dumping a pile of sequential frames to disk.
It it'd be slow, but you could leave the Film player running overnight rendering frames to disk, then compile them into an MPEG. Using PS or other image programs you could even convert them to Black & White, throw in some noise, and hey presto genuine AH gun-cam footage :-)
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Being able to convert these things to mpegs or avis would be absolutely fantastic.
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I agree with Pyro.
10 years ago when i started flying AW DOS, i learn a lot by viewing films, Tactics,Wingman Tactics,ACM and the Art of the vultch.
HT knows this and im sure this is what he had in mind when creating the film viewer here.
Dog out.......
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Pyro said:
I don't know if we could make an MPEG converter, but that would be nice.
Maybe you guys could code a plug-in for Adobe Premeire? I would love to make some videos. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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Just my opinion, BUT I'd like th be able to switch to external view of other planes so as to see what he is doing, instead of having it always centered on my plane.
The only other option I'd LOVE is a 3d wire frame model like in DiD's F-22ADF, so that ya could pan out, use trails and see the TWO aircraft dogfighting in relation to one another.
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